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Jeff Jacobsen  
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From: cult...@primenet.com (Jeff Jacobsen)
Date: 2000/02/11
Subject: Roxanne Friend affidavit
[Roxanne Friend sued the Church of Scientology (case number BC 018003
in Superior Court of the state of California for the county of Los
Angeles). The Church settled out of court "for nuisance value."
Roxanne not much later died of cancer, which may have been cured had
she gotten medical attention sooner. Roxanne did not because she felt
that Scientology auditing could cure any ill.]

DECLARATION OF ROXANNE FRIEND

I, Roxanne Friend, make the following declaration on personal
knowledge except for those statements made on information and belief
and as to those things I believe them to be true.
I have been told that I am asking the court to determine the validity
of Scientology as a religion or the truth or falsity of Scientology's
religious concepts. If the above is true, this would include the
court's having to determine the validity of Scientology's teaching
that human beings are impaired by things called "body thetans" and
"clusters" of body thetans that are stuck together on human bodies
through no volition of their own. Accordingly, Scientology teaches
that these must be gotten rid of, exorcised if you will, through
Scientology auditing/counseling called the "Upper Levels." Scientology
also states that planet earth, millions or billions of years ago, was
originally populated by beings transported here by Xenu of the
Galactic Federation. These beings were tortured, frozen, clumped
together and electronically forced to reside in various volcanoes.
Scientology's beliefs are not the essence of my suit on fraud against
the
defendant. Is is my contention that Scientology was presented to me as
a science. It was my understanding that everything about Scientology
could be proven factually in the same manner as a scientist proves a
scientific fact. These points are discussed at length in many
Scientology publications. The Scientologist is not exposed to the
above teachings until long after he/she has been indoctrinated into
the

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group and subjected to mind control. Thus, for me, it became
impossible to see the conflict between the scientific pretenses of
Scientology and the "beliefs."

4. As I stated on page 717 of my deposition, I never accepted
Scientology as a religion or belief and I continued to consider myself
Jewish throughout my association with Scientology. I was also told
that Scientology attempted to gain its status as a religion for two
purposes--one being to avoid taxation for the organization and its
constituents; and two, being to avoid having to come under scrutiny
for its practices of Scientology and the far-out nature of the Upper
Levels while I was still a member.

5. I continually and constantly relied on the teachings of L. Ron
Hubbard, the organization and the classes, auditing and publications
of Defendants. This occurred during a period spanning twelve years and
eight months from May 1977 to January 1990.

6. Originally, I was given a book entitled Dianetics: The Modern
Science of Mental Health. I did not know it then, but this book is the
basic Scientology text, referred to as Book One, and it is re-read and
re-studied throughout the various levels of Scientology. In this book,
Hubbbard claims that all his teachings were an exact science. It was
this claim that there was an exact science that could be the answer to
all mankind's problem that seduced me into Scientology. Hubbard, and
the Defendants, also claimed that it was a truth of science discovered
by studies based on the scientific method, that unwanted emotions can
be cured forever by addressing them psychosomatically with dianetics

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auditing.

7. Sometimes it is difficult to address the difference between how I
feel now, having left the "church" of Scientology versus how I felt
while I was actually going through all this. I have had two years of
counseling that has helped to release me from some of the mind control
techniques and indoctrination techniques that were repeatedly used on
me even during times of sleep and nutrition depravation and during
times of great emotional pain and distress such as deaths in my
family.

8. While I was a Scientologist, at any points where I would have a
thought negatively or critically about a church executive, the
organization or the techniques used in Scientology, I would have to
squash these thoughts since if I shared them I would be subject to
expensive auditing or other disciplinary actions or projects. This is
another aspect of the way Scientology controls the thoughts of its
constituents. You are trained to only allow certain thoughts or it
will cost you time, money and your pride since you will be punished
for thinking thoughts that the organization does not want you to
think. For example, you are considered and labeled a criminal if you
are caught not "keeping Scientology working" and many people were
continually indoctrinated into that concept (including myself) by
being forced to take a "Keeping Scientology Working" course under
threat of being kicked out.

9. After having read the Dianetic book on my own initially, the
techniques and goals and products of Dianetics were drilled into my
head on numerous occasions:

(1) when I took the Basic Dianetics Book course;

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(2) on the Hubbard Dianetics course;

(3) on the Dianetics Internship which was at the Advanced Organization
of Los Angeles (AOLA), a division of Defendant Western United States;

(4) on the Senior Dianetics Course;

(5) on the New Era Dianetics Course which I took at the Los Angeles
organization.

10. The other book that I relied on heavily that also makes repeated
representations about Scientology as an empirical science and
statements about improvements in health, raised IQ, better
relationships and a better, happier life--i.e., that I would get all
of these benefits by following Hubbard's scientific studies in his
Science of Survival. I had to read Science of Survival three times.
Once on my "Potential Trouble Source/Suppressive Person" course in
1977 or 1978. Then I was to re-do this course between 1985 and 1989,
at least once at AOLA and on another occasion when I was required to
do so by Defendant FLAG.

11. To further show my reliance on the above books plus the numerous
people in the organizations who reiterated the above to me, my actions
and thoughts were completely attuned to what did Scientology want one
to think and do. I didn't do as well as I could have at UCLA because I
didn't have time to study since my days were composed of being on
"course" in Scientology and getting Scientology auditing. My entire
thought processes and life were completely wrapped in Scientology and
I did not have a life or thoughts of my own really except what I was
trained to think by Scientology and as a result of my indoctrination
by

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classes and auditing in Scientology, thereby becoming continually
reindoctrinated.

12. As I stated on pages 624-630 of my depositions, I believed that
Scientology cured illnesses as this was taught to me in Scientology.

13. As I stated on pages 643 and 668, I truly believed it when I was
told that Scientolgy was a science and not a belief system. It is only
after two years of counseling that I can really even begin to face the
idea that the things I was trained to practice as a science was not a
science. It is very traumatic to be facing these falsehoods and the
detriment the fraudulent claims have cause me.

14. During my relationship with Scientology, I was referred by
Scientology to the Shaw Health Center for regular medical treatment. I
was told that all of the doctors at Shaw were practicing
Scientologists who used Scientology principles and techniques in their
diagnosis and treatment. I was consistently dissuaded by my auditors
and case supervisors from obtaining treatment from nonScientologist
physicians.

15. The "Church" of Scientology forced me to participate in what they
are calling religious practices that I myself did not want to
participate in. For example, in the spring and summer of 1987 I was
given auditing that I didn't want and was not allowed to leave Flag
when I wanted to. I was made to stay there for months to undergo
auditing that I did not want and even though I told them I wanted to
go back to Los Angeles because my father was visiting from the east, I
was not permitted to do so. During this time I went from having mono
to having pneumonia and getting

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very ill. Still, I was made to do auditing and was not allowed to
leave. I also missed being Maid of Honor at my girlfriend's wedding
because the case supervisor would not let me leave to go to the
wedding. The fact that being at Flag was against my will is in my
deposition on page 334.

16. Then around October 1988 I was told by Flag staff member Arda
Froese that I was ordered by Senior Case Supervisor International,
Jeff Walker, to go down to Florida to do a special program he had
written. I was then ordered to go back down and do more "Introspection
Rundown". At that point I said NO.

17. In December 1989 I went back to Florida for the purpose of doing a
process called the Purification Rundown but was again forced to do the
Introspection Rundown auditing. I left without Case Supervisor
approval which was always required prior to leaving the Flag Land Base
in Florida. I left in the middle of the night and took a taxi to a
hotel near Tampa airport because I did not want to be on Scientology
premises or continue the Introspection Rundown. Also, I made phone
calls to the Clearwater, Florida or Tampa, Florida police saying that
I was being held against my will. The Scientologists had the phone in
my room cut off when I did this.

18. During the period the organization had place 2-5 staff in the room
next to mine who constantly watched me and intruded on my life. I had
absolutely no privacy. The followed me to breakfast, lunch and dinner.
If I tried to talk with police, the switchboard cut my phone off for
hours on end which is mentioned in my deposition on
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Stacy Brooks  
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From: Stacy Brooks <stacybro...@mciworld.com>
Date: 2000/02/11
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit
Vaughn and I both visited Roxanne shortly before she died. She was a
friend of ours. We saw her at her home in Lemon Grove, California, a
suburb of San Diego. She had a cancerous tumor that had started in her
stomach and had wrapped itself around her spinal cord in such a way as
to be inoperable. The doctors told her that if she had sought
treatment earlier they could have performed surgery that would have
saved her life. Unfortunately, Roxanne said she was told not to seek
medical treatment because she was mid-NOTs. By the time she did go to
a doctor, it was too late.

Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and
transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided
with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard
Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne
was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her
parents. This was a total lie.

Roxanne told us that Miscavige himself met with her in a motel to get
her agreement to settle her lawsuit. He insisted that they meet alone,
and Roxanne agreed because at the time she was still very intimidated
by Miscavige. She told us she regretted having agreed to meet with him
alone, because she felt the he had coerced her into signing an
agreement which she would not have agreed to if she could have had her
lawyer there. She said DM laughed at her medical condition and told
her she should bother to try to get any more money for her settlement
since she was going to be dead within a year anyway.

Roxanne wanted to do a videotaped interview of her whole story and we
were arranging to do it. But the day before we were set to drive down
for the interview, we got a call from Roxanne's family to tell us she
had died.

Stacy

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:55:24 GMT, cult...@primenet.com (Jeff Jacobsen)
wrote:

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From: jim...@aol.com (JimDBB)
Date: 2000/02/11
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit

Wow!  This is horrifying. Sickening.
It is unbelievable that this has never been investigated...and the cult
prosecuted.

JImdbb


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From: Monica Pignotti <pigno...@my-deja.com>
Date: 2000/02/11
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit
In article <9zGkOPtVztYhjcJFGIC6PVWEJ...@4ax.com>,

  stacybro...@mciworld.com wrote:
> Roxanne wanted to do a videotaped interview of her whole story and we
> were arranging to do it. But the day before we were set to drive down
> for the interview, we got a call from Roxanne's family to tell us she
> had died.

She did at least get to tell some of it on Sally Jessy Raphael, which
was very moving.  This is on videotape and she did get to tell the
major points of her experience.  I met her at that taping and she was a
very couragous woman to tell her story publicly.
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From: Keith Henson <hkhen...@netcom17.netcom.com>
Date: 2000/02/11
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit

Stacy Brooks <stacybro...@mciworld.com> wrote:

snip

> Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and
> transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided
> with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard
> Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne
> was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her
> parents. This was a total lie.

Roxanne is the 6th kidnapping and/or illege confinement victim I know
about.

1) Terry Findley

2) the woman in the LA Times report

3) Roxanne Friend

4) (one I can't talk about yet)

5) Lisa McPherson

6) (another one from my area I can't give details on)

Come to think about it, wasn't Wollersheim held captive at some point?

Keith Henson

PS, with Roxanne dead and the episode beyond the statute of limitations
anyway, perhaps one of the guards is out and would like to come forward
about it.  


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Date: 2000/02/11
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit
Read what our swell pal had to say in the '92 Nightline interview. The
show's intro featured a  short statement by Friend, about the loving
care she received at the hands of $cientology.
______________________________________

Mr. MISCAVIGE: (...) You had another example on there, a Roxanne Friend.
This is a horrifying story. This girl was ill. I feel for her.

KOPPEL: Another woman.

Mr. MISCAVIGE: Another woman on there, excuse me, excuse me. I don't
mean to say that in a demeaning way, I'm sorry. She has a horrifying
story of having an illness of cancer, and the word in there is that we
didn't sent her to a church.

KOPPEL: To a doctor.

Mr. MISCAVIGE: To a doctor, excuse me. In fact, she's been to a doctor
220 times while she was in Scientology. In fact, when we sent her out of
the church we asked her to please go to a medical doctor and see if
something was wrong.

KOPPEL: The charge, as I recall it, Mr. Miscavige, is that with many of
these people, not just with-

Mr. MISCAVIGE: No, no, let me finish this one. Let me finish this one
becauseit's important.

KOPPEL: -not just with Ms. Friend, I'll let you get back to it in just a
second, the charge is that you inevitably - I don't mean you personally,
I mean the church - send people who complain of some illness to a
doctor, but a doctor who is also a Scientologist.

Mr. MISCAVIGE: I don't know where you got it, it's invented, I never
heard it in my life.

KOPPEL: So it's- so if someone- well-

Mr. MISCAVIGE: First time I heard it.

KOPPEL: -it's not the first time, because you've read the L.A. Times
series, and it was in the L.A. Times series.

Mr. MISCAVIGE: Oh, if it was in the L.A. Times series, I didn't read
that. Believe me, I don't read a report on Scientology from the L.A.
Times to find out what it is, so I did not read that in detail.

KOPPEL: No, but you've got to understand what your critics are saying-

Mr. MISCAVIGE: This is not so.

KOPPEL: -about you, right?

Mr. MISCAVIGE: It's just not so. Not so at all. Just absolutely not so.

KOPPEL: Any Scientologist who wants to go to an outside doctor, no
problem?

Mr. MISCAVIGE: Anybody he wants. It's just an outrageous charge, I have
no idea where it came from.

(end of medical care Q & A)


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Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit

What a guy, what a guy! Salt of the earth. It's a good thing he didn't
have kids.
Peach

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From: ThomLove <thomlovenetm...@netscape.net>
Date: 2000/02/12
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit
Hello Keith;

During the purge of '82 or thereabouts, ( I think that was the time
period), there were many who were held against their will. I remember of
at least 7 or 8 at the time.

ThomLove


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Date: 2000/02/12
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit

ThomLove <thomlovenetm...@netscape.net> wrote:
> Hello Keith;
> During the purge of '82 or thereabouts, ( I think that was the time
> period), there were many who were held against their will. I remember of
> at least 7 or 8 at the time.
> ThomLove

Can you name them?  Keith Henson

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From: til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr)
Date: 2000/02/12
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:23:47 -0500, Stacy Brooks
<stacybro...@mciworld.com> wrote in
<9zGkOPtVztYhjcJFGIC6PVWEJ...@4ax.com>:

>Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and
>transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided
>with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard
>Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne
>was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her
>parents. This was a total lie.

I would like to know who this doctor was, and if this could be found in
the court files.

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Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit
On 11 Feb 2000 20:33:28 GMT, Keith Henson <hkhen...@netcom17.netcom.com>
wrote in <881rmo$fb...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net>:

>Roxanne is the 6th kidnapping and/or illege confinement victim I know
>about.

I have a 7th. Told by Ursula Caberta yesterday. The Ohrendorf's (husband
and wife) are the owners of the old Hamburg org. They didn't get paid
the rent. Naively, they flew to Clearwater to sort things out and get
their $$. They were locked up in a room with a guard outside.
Scientology came with a paper to sign that the rent would be cut by
half. They didn't sign. Finally they let the wife go. They still coerced
the husband to sign the paper. He said he could sign anything, it
wouldn't matter because the wife owns the building and not him. They let
the husband go - also because in the meantime, their son was regularly
calling at "Flag" to know what happened to his parents. When back home
the two quit scientology and filed a lawsuit (which was later settled
for a confidential amount).

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Date: 2000/02/12
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit
Keith Henson (hkhen...@netcom17.netcom.com) wrote:

: Roxanne is the 6th kidnapping and/or illege confinement victim I know
: about.
:
: 1) Terry Findley
:
: 2) the woman in the LA Times report
:
: 3) Roxanne Friend
:
: 4) (one I can't talk about yet)
:
: 5) Lisa McPherson
:
: 6) (another one from my area I can't give details on)
:
: Come to think about it, wasn't Wollersheim held captive at some point?

Jesse Prince was held in Big Blue for over a year against his will. His
description is at http://www.lron.org/XenuArne/press98pt3.rm

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From: Keith Henson <hkhen...@netcom19.netcom.com>
Date: 2000/02/13
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit

Rod Keller <rkel...@netaxs.com> wrote:
> Keith Henson (hkhen...@netcom17.netcom.com) wrote:
> : Roxanne is the 6th kidnapping and/or illege confinement victim I know
> : about.

snip

> : Come to think about it, wasn't Wollersheim held captive at some

point?

> Jesse Prince was held in Big Blue for over a year against his will. His
> description is at http://www.lron.org/XenuArne/press98pt3.rm

Has that been less than 6 years?  Keith Henson

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Date: 2000/02/13
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:23:47 -0500, Stacy Brooks
<stacybro...@mciworld.com> wrote in
<9zGkOPtVztYhjcJFGIC6PVWEJ...@4ax.com>:

>Roxanne told us that Miscavige himself met with her in a motel to get
>her agreement to settle her lawsuit. He insisted that they meet alone,
>and Roxanne agreed because at the time she was still very intimidated
>by Miscavige. She told us she regretted having agreed to meet with him
>alone, because she felt the he had coerced her into signing an
>agreement which she would not have agreed to if she could have had her
>lawyer there. She said DM laughed at her medical condition and told
>her she should bother to try to get any more money for her settlement
>since she was going to be dead within a year anyway.

That brings an interesting question - if DM is "just that scripture
purity guy", why did he meet her to discuss a settlement?

Tilman

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Stacy Brooks  
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 More options Feb 13 2000, 3:00 am
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From: Stacy Brooks <stacybro...@mciworld.com>
Date: 2000/02/13
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit
On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:26:02 +0100, til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr)
wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:23:47 -0500, Stacy Brooks
><stacybro...@mciworld.com> wrote in
><9zGkOPtVztYhjcJFGIC6PVWEJ...@4ax.com>:

>>Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and
>>transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided
>>with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard
>>Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne
>>was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her
>>parents. This was a total lie.

>I would like to know who this doctor was, and if this could be found in
>the court files.

Roxanne told me that it was Megan Shields. At the time of the incident, Megan
was at Shaw Health Center, a Scientology clinic owned by Gene Denk and Stephen
Price. I don't know if she is still there or, for that matter, if Shaw Health
Center still exists at all. I don't know if Megan's role in Roxanne's
kidnapping is documented in any court files or not.  

By the way, dedication to the cause seems to run in the family. Megan's
daughter Sara Fox was one of the plants run in on Vaughn and me when we were
in Seattle. She had been in the Guardian's Office back in the early 1980s and
was later in OSA. She called me one day and acted thrilled to talk to me
again, although I hardly remembered her at all. But to hear her talk, she and
I had been the best of friends.  

We were suspicious of her from the beginning because her story didn't add up.
She said she had gotten really sick and had ended up "dropping off" staff, and
that her husband John, who had been in OSA at St. Hill in England, had also
"dropped off" staff. Problem is, there's no such thing as "dropping off"
staff, particularly if you're in OSA. She also said that her mother Megan had
not been required to disconnect even though Sara was "no longer in good
standing."  Were she and John declared? Well, no, not exactly, she said. But
they weren't in any more. The whole thing seemed fishy.

She tried many times to engage me in email conversation about what we were
doing to "fight the Church," but I never chatted with her about anything more
than her dogs, our dogs, and the cat sanctuary.

Finally one day I got a frantic call from Sara. She was calling from England.
Oh, I'm so upset, she said. I'm so worried about you and Vaughn. I'm so afraid
of what Scientology is going to do to you.

What's the matter? I asked, already on guard because there was something about
her voice that didn't ring true, as if she were performing a script.

Oh, I'm just so afraid something will happen to you and there won't be any
record of what Scientology did to you. You and Vaughn are writing a book about
Scientology, aren't you?

This book thing is what Danny Fumigalli and a couple of other plants were sent
in to check on, so as soon as she started asking about the book I knew she was
fishing for information.

No, we're not writing a book, I said. Where did you get that idea? I've never
told you we were writing a book, Sara.

Then she got really flustered and didn't know what to say. She put her hand
over the mouthpiece of the phone, as if she were talking to someone else. When
she got back on the line her tone of voice had totally changed.

All right then, Stacy, she said in a very matter-of-fact voice. Well, if you
write a book you should send it to me because I'd like to read it. I have to
go now.

Then she hung up, and I've never heard from her again.

Stacy


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From: Steve Plakos <stavr...@concentric.net>
Date: 2000/02/13
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit

FYI, Shaw is still there and her name is still on the wall.  They now advertise
numerous treatment programs for a variety of ills.  Last couple of times I went in
they had SO members acting as security guards standing just to the left of the
front door in the driveway the leads to the parking lot behind the building.

SP


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From: Kristi Wachter <humanrig...@racerrecords.com>
Date: 2000/02/13
Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit
On 11 Feb 2000, Keith Henson wrote:

Six? Heck, I can count higher than that:

7) Gitte Mogensen

8) Dorothy Geary

9) Michael Pattinson (shorter-term)

10, 11, & 12) the three cases mentioned in The Independent's 1994 story

13) Janice Hayward (shorter-term)

14) the Australian citizen who escaped to the police in 1994

15 and 16) Dee and Glover Rowe

17) Marianne Coenan

18) Moira Hutchinson

19 & 20) Dennis Erlich and Lynn Froyland

21) Birgitta Dagnell

22) Hana Whitfield

23) Margery Wakefield

24) Annie Rosenblum

25 + ) those seen by Zane Thomas

26) "Art Student"

27 + ) those seen by Gerry Armstrong

28) Vaughn Young

29, 30, & 31) at least three people thrown in the chain lockers

32) the woman seen by Born Again Wog

33) Frank Notaro (shorter term)

(most of the above from http://www.scientology-lies.com/imprisonment.html
)

34) Catarina Pamnell

35) David Voorhies

36) Cat Morrow

37) David Mayo (kidnapped)

38) Tonya Burden (kidnapped)

Note that some of these are RPF, not isolation/IR/babywatch cases, but
they do all have the common element of false imprisonment.

One of my ongoing projects is to comb affidavits and personal stories for
words like "kidnapped" so that I can build a more complete list.

I know the one above is missing some names.

--
Kristi Wachter
the activist formerly known as "Jour" (before $cientology outed me)

I think $cientology is hurting people and breaking the law, and I
want them to stop it. See http://www.scientology-lies.com for more.
         Can you say "Xenu?" ... I knew that you could.


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Gerry Armstrong  
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From: armstr...@dowco.com (Gerry Armstrong)
Date: 2000/02/14
Subject: $cientology illegal confinement list (was Roxanne Friend affidavit)
On 11 Feb 2000 20:33:28 GMT, Keith Henson

7) Bruce Welch, Apollo, 1973. Welch was the person Hubbard guinea
pigged for his lock up and silence treatment "tech."

8) Gerry Armstrong, 1976. Confined and guarded in GO US at Fifield
Manor by B-1 personnel on Hubbard's order.

9) Lynn Froyland, 1976? Fort Harrison.

10) Margery Wakefield?

(c) Gerry Armstrong


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Arnie Lerma <www.lermanet.com>  
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From: Arnie Lerma <www.lermanet.com> <Arnie_mem...@newsguy.com>
Date: 2000/02/14
Subject: Re: $cientology illegal confinement list (was Roxanne Friend affidavit)
In article <38a886b5.15010...@news.dowco.com>, armstr...@dowco.com says...

 11) Arnie Lerma  - I was locked in the wire fenced in old recieving
   room at the Hollywood in in the basement for an afternoon, approx 1973

I was placed under house arrest and confined in a room at the Fort Harrisson in
Clearwater, after they found out about Suzette and my planes to elope after we
got marriage licence and blood tests and had to wait 48 hours under Florida law.
It was pried out of her during her daily auditing... approx 1977

>>Come to think about it, wasn't Wollersheim held captive at some point?

>>Keith Henson

>>PS, with Roxanne dead and the episode beyond the statute of limitations
>>anyway, perhaps one of the guards is out and would like to come forward
>>about it.  

I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak.
The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers
The internet is the liberty tree of the 90's
http://www.lermanet.com - mentioned 4 January 2000 in
The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD"

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