[Roxanne Friend sued the Church of Scientology (case number BC 018003 in Superior Court of the state of California for the county of Los Angeles). The Church settled out of court "for nuisance value." Roxanne not much later died of cancer, which may have been cured had she gotten medical attention sooner. Roxanne did not because she felt that Scientology auditing could cure any ill.]
DECLARATION OF ROXANNE FRIEND
I, Roxanne Friend, make the following declaration on personal knowledge except for those statements made on information and belief and as to those things I believe them to be true. I have been told that I am asking the court to determine the validity of Scientology as a religion or the truth or falsity of Scientology's religious concepts. If the above is true, this would include the court's having to determine the validity of Scientology's teaching that human beings are impaired by things called "body thetans" and "clusters" of body thetans that are stuck together on human bodies through no volition of their own. Accordingly, Scientology teaches that these must be gotten rid of, exorcised if you will, through Scientology auditing/counseling called the "Upper Levels." Scientology also states that planet earth, millions or billions of years ago, was originally populated by beings transported here by Xenu of the Galactic Federation. These beings were tortured, frozen, clumped together and electronically forced to reside in various volcanoes. Scientology's beliefs are not the essence of my suit on fraud against the defendant. Is is my contention that Scientology was presented to me as a science. It was my understanding that everything about Scientology could be proven factually in the same manner as a scientist proves a scientific fact. These points are discussed at length in many Scientology publications. The Scientologist is not exposed to the above teachings until long after he/she has been indoctrinated into the
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group and subjected to mind control. Thus, for me, it became impossible to see the conflict between the scientific pretenses of Scientology and the "beliefs."
4. As I stated on page 717 of my deposition, I never accepted Scientology as a religion or belief and I continued to consider myself Jewish throughout my association with Scientology. I was also told that Scientology attempted to gain its status as a religion for two purposes--one being to avoid taxation for the organization and its constituents; and two, being to avoid having to come under scrutiny for its practices of Scientology and the far-out nature of the Upper Levels while I was still a member.
5. I continually and constantly relied on the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard, the organization and the classes, auditing and publications of Defendants. This occurred during a period spanning twelve years and eight months from May 1977 to January 1990.
6. Originally, I was given a book entitled Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health. I did not know it then, but this book is the basic Scientology text, referred to as Book One, and it is re-read and re-studied throughout the various levels of Scientology. In this book, Hubbbard claims that all his teachings were an exact science. It was this claim that there was an exact science that could be the answer to all mankind's problem that seduced me into Scientology. Hubbard, and the Defendants, also claimed that it was a truth of science discovered by studies based on the scientific method, that unwanted emotions can be cured forever by addressing them psychosomatically with dianetics
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auditing.
7. Sometimes it is difficult to address the difference between how I feel now, having left the "church" of Scientology versus how I felt while I was actually going through all this. I have had two years of counseling that has helped to release me from some of the mind control techniques and indoctrination techniques that were repeatedly used on me even during times of sleep and nutrition depravation and during times of great emotional pain and distress such as deaths in my family.
8. While I was a Scientologist, at any points where I would have a thought negatively or critically about a church executive, the organization or the techniques used in Scientology, I would have to squash these thoughts since if I shared them I would be subject to expensive auditing or other disciplinary actions or projects. This is another aspect of the way Scientology controls the thoughts of its constituents. You are trained to only allow certain thoughts or it will cost you time, money and your pride since you will be punished for thinking thoughts that the organization does not want you to think. For example, you are considered and labeled a criminal if you are caught not "keeping Scientology working" and many people were continually indoctrinated into that concept (including myself) by being forced to take a "Keeping Scientology Working" course under threat of being kicked out.
9. After having read the Dianetic book on my own initially, the techniques and goals and products of Dianetics were drilled into my head on numerous occasions:
(1) when I took the Basic Dianetics Book course;
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(2) on the Hubbard Dianetics course;
(3) on the Dianetics Internship which was at the Advanced Organization of Los Angeles (AOLA), a division of Defendant Western United States;
(4) on the Senior Dianetics Course;
(5) on the New Era Dianetics Course which I took at the Los Angeles organization.
10. The other book that I relied on heavily that also makes repeated representations about Scientology as an empirical science and statements about improvements in health, raised IQ, better relationships and a better, happier life--i.e., that I would get all of these benefits by following Hubbard's scientific studies in his Science of Survival. I had to read Science of Survival three times. Once on my "Potential Trouble Source/Suppressive Person" course in 1977 or 1978. Then I was to re-do this course between 1985 and 1989, at least once at AOLA and on another occasion when I was required to do so by Defendant FLAG.
11. To further show my reliance on the above books plus the numerous people in the organizations who reiterated the above to me, my actions and thoughts were completely attuned to what did Scientology want one to think and do. I didn't do as well as I could have at UCLA because I didn't have time to study since my days were composed of being on "course" in Scientology and getting Scientology auditing. My entire thought processes and life were completely wrapped in Scientology and I did not have a life or thoughts of my own really except what I was trained to think by Scientology and as a result of my indoctrination by
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classes and auditing in Scientology, thereby becoming continually reindoctrinated.
12. As I stated on pages 624-630 of my depositions, I believed that Scientology cured illnesses as this was taught to me in Scientology.
13. As I stated on pages 643 and 668, I truly believed it when I was told that Scientolgy was a science and not a belief system. It is only after two years of counseling that I can really even begin to face the idea that the things I was trained to practice as a science was not a science. It is very traumatic to be facing these falsehoods and the detriment the fraudulent claims have cause me.
14. During my relationship with Scientology, I was referred by Scientology to the Shaw Health Center for regular medical treatment. I was told that all of the doctors at Shaw were practicing Scientologists who used Scientology principles and techniques in their diagnosis and treatment. I was consistently dissuaded by my auditors and case supervisors from obtaining treatment from nonScientologist physicians.
15. The "Church" of Scientology forced me to participate in what they are calling religious practices that I myself did not want to participate in. For example, in the spring and summer of 1987 I was given auditing that I didn't want and was not allowed to leave Flag when I wanted to. I was made to stay there for months to undergo auditing that I did not want and even though I told them I wanted to go back to Los Angeles because my father was visiting from the east, I was not permitted to do so. During this time I went from having mono to having pneumonia and getting
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very ill. Still, I was made to do auditing and was not allowed to leave. I also missed being Maid of Honor at my girlfriend's wedding because the case supervisor would not let me leave to go to the wedding. The fact that being at Flag was against my will is in my deposition on page 334.
16. Then around October 1988 I was told by Flag staff member Arda Froese that I was ordered by Senior Case Supervisor International, Jeff Walker, to go down to Florida to do a special program he had written. I was then ordered to go back down and do more "Introspection Rundown". At that point I said NO.
17. In December 1989 I went back to Florida for the purpose of doing a process called the Purification Rundown but was again forced to do the Introspection Rundown auditing. I left without Case Supervisor approval which was always required prior to leaving the Flag Land Base in Florida. I left in the middle of the night and took a taxi to a hotel near Tampa airport because I did not want to be on Scientology premises or continue the Introspection Rundown. Also, I made phone calls to the Clearwater, Florida or Tampa, Florida police saying that I was being held against my will. The Scientologists had the phone in my room cut off when I did this.
18. During the period the organization had place 2-5 staff in the room next to mine who constantly watched me and intruded on my life. I had absolutely no privacy. The followed me to breakfast, lunch and dinner. If I tried to talk with police, the switchboard cut my phone off for hours on end which is mentioned in my deposition on
Vaughn and I both visited Roxanne shortly before she died. She was a friend of ours. We saw her at her home in Lemon Grove, California, a suburb of San Diego. She had a cancerous tumor that had started in her stomach and had wrapped itself around her spinal cord in such a way as to be inoperable. The doctors told her that if she had sought treatment earlier they could have performed surgery that would have saved her life. Unfortunately, Roxanne said she was told not to seek medical treatment because she was mid-NOTs. By the time she did go to a doctor, it was too late.
Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her parents. This was a total lie.
Roxanne told us that Miscavige himself met with her in a motel to get her agreement to settle her lawsuit. He insisted that they meet alone, and Roxanne agreed because at the time she was still very intimidated by Miscavige. She told us she regretted having agreed to meet with him alone, because she felt the he had coerced her into signing an agreement which she would not have agreed to if she could have had her lawyer there. She said DM laughed at her medical condition and told her she should bother to try to get any more money for her settlement since she was going to be dead within a year anyway.
Roxanne wanted to do a videotaped interview of her whole story and we were arranging to do it. But the day before we were set to drive down for the interview, we got a call from Roxanne's family to tell us she had died.
Stacy
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:55:24 GMT, cult...@primenet.com (Jeff Jacobsen) wrote:
>[Roxanne Friend sued the Church of Scientology (case number BC 018003 >in Superior Court of the state of California for the county of Los >Angeles). The Church settled out of court "for nuisance value." >Roxanne not much later died of cancer, which may have been cured had >she gotten medical attention sooner. Roxanne did not because she felt >that Scientology auditing could cure any ill.]
>DECLARATION OF ROXANNE FRIEND
>I, Roxanne Friend, make the following declaration on personal >knowledge except for those statements made on information and belief >and as to those things I believe them to be true. >I have been told that I am asking the court to determine the validity >of Scientology as a religion or the truth or falsity of Scientology's >religious concepts. If the above is true, this would include the >court's having to determine the validity of Scientology's teaching >that human beings are impaired by things called "body thetans" and >"clusters" of body thetans that are stuck together on human bodies >through no volition of their own. Accordingly, Scientology teaches >that these must be gotten rid of, exorcised if you will, through >Scientology auditing/counseling called the "Upper Levels." Scientology >also states that planet earth, millions or billions of years ago, was >originally populated by beings transported here by Xenu of the >Galactic Federation. These beings were tortured, frozen, clumped >together and electronically forced to reside in various volcanoes. >Scientology's beliefs are not the essence of my suit on fraud against >the >defendant. Is is my contention that Scientology was presented to me as >a science. It was my understanding that everything about Scientology >could be proven factually in the same manner as a scientist proves a >scientific fact. These points are discussed at length in many >Scientology publications. The Scientologist is not exposed to the >above teachings until long after he/she has been indoctrinated into >the
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>group and subjected to mind control. Thus, for me, it became >impossible to see the conflict between the scientific pretenses of >Scientology and the "beliefs."
>4. As I stated on page 717 of my deposition, I never accepted >Scientology as a religion or belief and I continued to consider myself >Jewish throughout my association with Scientology. I was also told >that Scientology attempted to gain its status as a religion for two >purposes--one being to avoid taxation for the organization and its >constituents; and two, being to avoid having to come under scrutiny >for its practices of Scientology and the far-out nature of the Upper >Levels while I was still a member.
>5. I continually and constantly relied on the teachings of L. Ron >Hubbard, the organization and the classes, auditing and publications >of Defendants. This occurred during a period spanning twelve years and >eight months from May 1977 to January 1990.
>6. Originally, I was given a book entitled Dianetics: The Modern >Science of Mental Health. I did not know it then, but this book is the >basic Scientology text, referred to as Book One, and it is re-read and >re-studied throughout the various levels of Scientology. In this book, >Hubbbard claims that all his teachings were an exact science. It was >this claim that there was an exact science that could be the answer to >all mankind's problem that seduced me into Scientology. Hubbard, and >the Defendants, also claimed that it was a truth of science discovered >by studies based on the scientific method, that unwanted emotions can >be cured forever by addressing them psychosomatically with dianetics
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>auditing.
>7. Sometimes it is difficult to address the difference between how I >feel now, having left the "church" of Scientology versus how I felt >while I was actually going through all this. I have had two years of >counseling that has helped to release me from some of the mind control >techniques and indoctrination techniques that were repeatedly used on >me even during times of sleep and nutrition depravation and during >times of great emotional pain and distress such as deaths in my >family.
>8. While I was a Scientologist, at any points where I would have a >thought negatively or critically about a church executive, the >organization or the techniques used in Scientology, I would have to >squash these thoughts since if I shared them I would be subject to >expensive auditing or other disciplinary actions or projects. This is >another aspect of the way Scientology controls the thoughts of its >constituents. You are trained to only allow certain thoughts or it >will cost you time, money and your pride since you will be punished >for thinking thoughts that the organization does not want you to >think. For example, you are considered and labeled a criminal if you >are caught not "keeping Scientology working" and many people were >continually indoctrinated into that concept (including myself) by >being forced to take a "Keeping Scientology Working" course under >threat of being kicked out.
>9. After having read the Dianetic book on my own initially, the >techniques and goals and products of Dianetics were drilled into my >head on numerous occasions:
>(1) when I took the Basic Dianetics Book course;
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>(2) on the Hubbard Dianetics course;
>(3) on the Dianetics Internship which was at the Advanced Organization >of Los Angeles (AOLA), a division of Defendant Western United States;
>(4) on the Senior Dianetics Course;
>(5) on the New Era Dianetics Course which I took at the Los Angeles >organization.
>10. The other book that I relied on heavily that also makes repeated >representations about Scientology as an empirical science and >statements about improvements in health, raised IQ, better >relationships and a better, happier life--i.e., that I would get all >of these benefits by following Hubbard's scientific studies in his >Science of Survival. I had to read Science of Survival three times. >Once on my "Potential Trouble Source/Suppressive Person" course in >1977 or 1978. Then I was to re-do this course between 1985 and 1989, >at least once at AOLA and on another occasion when I was required to >do so by Defendant FLAG.
>11. To further show my reliance on the above books plus the numerous >people in the organizations who reiterated the above to me, my actions >and thoughts were completely attuned to what did Scientology want one >to think and do. I didn't do as well as I could have at UCLA because I >didn't have time to study since my days were composed of being on >"course" in Scientology and getting Scientology auditing. My entire >thought processes and life were completely wrapped in Scientology and >I did not have a life or thoughts of my own really except what I was >trained to think by Scientology and as a result of my indoctrination >by
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>classes and auditing in Scientology, thereby becoming continually >reindoctrinated.
>12. As I stated on pages 624-630 of my depositions, I believed that >Scientology cured illnesses as this was taught to me in Scientology.
>13. As I stated on pages 643 and 668, I truly believed it when I was >told that Scientolgy was a science and not a belief system. It is only >after two years of counseling that I can really even begin to face the >idea that the things I was trained to practice as a science was not a >science. It is very traumatic to be facing these falsehoods and the >detriment the fraudulent claims have cause me.
>14. During my relationship with Scientology, I was referred by >Scientology to the Shaw Health Center for regular medical treatment. I >was told that all of the doctors at Shaw were practicing >Scientologists who used Scientology principles and techniques in their >diagnosis and treatment. I was consistently dissuaded by my auditors >and case supervisors from obtaining treatment from nonScientologist >physicians.
>15. The "Church" of Scientology forced me to participate in what they >are calling religious practices that I myself did not want to
>Subject: Re: Roxanne Friend affidavit >From: Stacy Brooks stacybro...@mciworld.com >Date: 2/11/00 10:23 AM Central Standard Time >Vaughn and I both visited Roxanne shortly before she died. She was a >friend of ours. We saw her at her home in Lemon Grove, California, a >suburb of San Diego. She had a cancerous tumor that had started in her >stomach and had wrapped itself around her spinal cord in such a way as >to be inoperable. The doctors told her that if she had sought >treatment earlier they could have performed surgery that would have >saved her life. Unfortunately, Roxanne said she was told not to seek >medical treatment because she was mid-NOTs. By the time she did go to >a doctor, it was too late.
>Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and >transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided >with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard >Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne >was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her >parents. This was a total lie. >Roxanne told us that Miscavige himself met with her in a motel to get >her agreement to settle her lawsuit. He insisted that they meet alone, >and Roxanne agreed because at the time she was still very intimidated >by Miscavige. She told us she regretted having agreed to meet with him >alone, because she felt the he had coerced her into signing an >agreement which she would not have agreed to if she could have had her >lawyer there. She said DM laughed at her medical condition and told >her she should bother to try to get any more money for her settlement >since she was going to be dead within a year anyway. >Roxanne wanted to do a videotaped interview of her whole story and we >were arranging to do it. But the day before we were set to drive down >for the interview, we got a call from Roxanne's family to tell us she >had died. >Stacy
Wow! This is horrifying. Sickening. It is unbelievable that this has never been investigated...and the cult prosecuted.
In article <9zGkOPtVztYhjcJFGIC6PVWEJ...@4ax.com>,
stacybro...@mciworld.com wrote: > Roxanne wanted to do a videotaped interview of her whole story and we > were arranging to do it. But the day before we were set to drive down > for the interview, we got a call from Roxanne's family to tell us she > had died.
She did at least get to tell some of it on Sally Jessy Raphael, which was very moving. This is on videotape and she did get to tell the major points of her experience. I met her at that taping and she was a very couragous woman to tell her story publicly. -- Monica Pignotti Disclaimer: The statements I make on this forum are an expression of my individual opinions. I do not represent any institution here.
> Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and > transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided > with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard > Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne > was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her > parents. This was a total lie.
Roxanne is the 6th kidnapping and/or illege confinement victim I know about.
1) Terry Findley
2) the woman in the LA Times report
3) Roxanne Friend
4) (one I can't talk about yet)
5) Lisa McPherson
6) (another one from my area I can't give details on)
Come to think about it, wasn't Wollersheim held captive at some point?
Keith Henson
PS, with Roxanne dead and the episode beyond the statute of limitations anyway, perhaps one of the guards is out and would like to come forward about it.
Read what our swell pal had to say in the '92 Nightline interview. The show's intro featured a short statement by Friend, about the loving care she received at the hands of $cientology. ______________________________________
Mr. MISCAVIGE: (...) You had another example on there, a Roxanne Friend. This is a horrifying story. This girl was ill. I feel for her.
KOPPEL: Another woman.
Mr. MISCAVIGE: Another woman on there, excuse me, excuse me. I don't mean to say that in a demeaning way, I'm sorry. She has a horrifying story of having an illness of cancer, and the word in there is that we didn't sent her to a church.
KOPPEL: To a doctor.
Mr. MISCAVIGE: To a doctor, excuse me. In fact, she's been to a doctor 220 times while she was in Scientology. In fact, when we sent her out of the church we asked her to please go to a medical doctor and see if something was wrong.
KOPPEL: The charge, as I recall it, Mr. Miscavige, is that with many of these people, not just with-
Mr. MISCAVIGE: No, no, let me finish this one. Let me finish this one becauseit's important.
KOPPEL: -not just with Ms. Friend, I'll let you get back to it in just a second, the charge is that you inevitably - I don't mean you personally, I mean the church - send people who complain of some illness to a doctor, but a doctor who is also a Scientologist.
Mr. MISCAVIGE: I don't know where you got it, it's invented, I never heard it in my life.
KOPPEL: So it's- so if someone- well-
Mr. MISCAVIGE: First time I heard it.
KOPPEL: -it's not the first time, because you've read the L.A. Times series, and it was in the L.A. Times series.
Mr. MISCAVIGE: Oh, if it was in the L.A. Times series, I didn't read that. Believe me, I don't read a report on Scientology from the L.A. Times to find out what it is, so I did not read that in detail.
KOPPEL: No, but you've got to understand what your critics are saying-
Mr. MISCAVIGE: This is not so.
KOPPEL: -about you, right?
Mr. MISCAVIGE: It's just not so. Not so at all. Just absolutely not so.
KOPPEL: Any Scientologist who wants to go to an outside doctor, no problem?
Mr. MISCAVIGE: Anybody he wants. It's just an outrageous charge, I have no idea where it came from.
> Vaughn and I both visited Roxanne shortly before she died. She was a > friend of ours. We saw her at her home in Lemon Grove, California, a > suburb of San Diego. She had a cancerous tumor that had started in her > stomach and had wrapped itself around her spinal cord in such a way as > to be inoperable. The doctors told her that if she had sought > treatment earlier they could have performed surgery that would have > saved her life. Unfortunately, Roxanne said she was told not to seek > medical treatment because she was mid-NOTs. By the time she did go to > a doctor, it was too late.
> Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and > transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided > with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard > Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne > was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her > parents. This was a total lie.
> Roxanne told us that Miscavige himself met with her in a motel to get > her agreement to settle her lawsuit. He insisted that they meet alone, > and Roxanne agreed because at the time she was still very intimidated > by Miscavige. She told us she regretted having agreed to meet with him > alone, because she felt the he had coerced her into signing an > agreement which she would not have agreed to if she could have had her > lawyer there. She said DM laughed at her medical condition and told > her she should bother to try to get any more money for her settlement > since she was going to be dead within a year anyway.
What a guy, what a guy! Salt of the earth. It's a good thing he didn't have kids. Peach
During the purge of '82 or thereabouts, ( I think that was the time period), there were many who were held against their will. I remember of at least 7 or 8 at the time.
> > Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and > > transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided > > with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard > > Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne > > was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her > > parents. This was a total lie.
> Roxanne is the 6th kidnapping and/or illege confinement victim I know > about.
> 1) Terry Findley
> 2) the woman in the LA Times report
> 3) Roxanne Friend
> 4) (one I can't talk about yet)
> 5) Lisa McPherson
> 6) (another one from my area I can't give details on)
> Come to think about it, wasn't Wollersheim held captive at some point?
> Keith Henson
> PS, with Roxanne dead and the episode beyond the statute of limitations > anyway, perhaps one of the guards is out and would like to come forward > about it.
ThomLove <thomlovenetm...@netscape.net> wrote: > Hello Keith; > During the purge of '82 or thereabouts, ( I think that was the time > period), there were many who were held against their will. I remember of > at least 7 or 8 at the time. > ThomLove
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:23:47 -0500, Stacy Brooks <stacybro...@mciworld.com> wrote in <9zGkOPtVztYhjcJFGIC6PVWEJ...@4ax.com>:
>Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and >transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided >with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard >Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne >was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her >parents. This was a total lie.
I would like to know who this doctor was, and if this could be found in the court files.
On 11 Feb 2000 20:33:28 GMT, Keith Henson <hkhen...@netcom17.netcom.com> wrote in <881rmo$fb...@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net>:
>Roxanne is the 6th kidnapping and/or illege confinement victim I know >about.
I have a 7th. Told by Ursula Caberta yesterday. The Ohrendorf's (husband and wife) are the owners of the old Hamburg org. They didn't get paid the rent. Naively, they flew to Clearwater to sort things out and get their $$. They were locked up in a room with a guard outside. Scientology came with a paper to sign that the rent would be cut by half. They didn't sign. Finally they let the wife go. They still coerced the husband to sign the paper. He said he could sign anything, it wouldn't matter because the wife owns the building and not him. They let the husband go - also because in the meantime, their son was regularly calling at "Flag" to know what happened to his parents. When back home the two quit scientology and filed a lawsuit (which was later settled for a confidential amount).
Keith Henson (hkhen...@netcom17.netcom.com) wrote:
: Roxanne is the 6th kidnapping and/or illege confinement victim I know : about. : : 1) Terry Findley : : 2) the woman in the LA Times report : : 3) Roxanne Friend : : 4) (one I can't talk about yet) : : 5) Lisa McPherson : : 6) (another one from my area I can't give details on) : : Come to think about it, wasn't Wollersheim held captive at some point?
-- Rod Keller / rkel...@voicenet.com / Irresponsible Publisher Black Hat #1 / Expert of the Toilet / CWPD Mouthpiece / Killer Rod The Lerma Apologist / Merchant of Chaos / Vision of Destruction Bigot of Mystery / OSA Patsy / Quasi-Scieno / Mental Bully
Rod Keller <rkel...@netaxs.com> wrote: > Keith Henson (hkhen...@netcom17.netcom.com) wrote: > : Roxanne is the 6th kidnapping and/or illege confinement victim I know > : about.
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> : Come to think about it, wasn't Wollersheim held captive at some
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:23:47 -0500, Stacy Brooks <stacybro...@mciworld.com> wrote in <9zGkOPtVztYhjcJFGIC6PVWEJ...@4ax.com>:
>Roxanne told us that Miscavige himself met with her in a motel to get >her agreement to settle her lawsuit. He insisted that they meet alone, >and Roxanne agreed because at the time she was still very intimidated >by Miscavige. She told us she regretted having agreed to meet with him >alone, because she felt the he had coerced her into signing an >agreement which she would not have agreed to if she could have had her >lawyer there. She said DM laughed at her medical condition and told >her she should bother to try to get any more money for her settlement >since she was going to be dead within a year anyway.
That brings an interesting question - if DM is "just that scripture purity guy", why did he meet her to discuss a settlement?
On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:26:02 +0100, til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) wrote:
>On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:23:47 -0500, Stacy Brooks ><stacybro...@mciworld.com> wrote in ><9zGkOPtVztYhjcJFGIC6PVWEJ...@4ax.com>:
>>Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and >>transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided >>with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard >>Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne >>was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her >>parents. This was a total lie.
>I would like to know who this doctor was, and if this could be found in >the court files.
Roxanne told me that it was Megan Shields. At the time of the incident, Megan was at Shaw Health Center, a Scientology clinic owned by Gene Denk and Stephen Price. I don't know if she is still there or, for that matter, if Shaw Health Center still exists at all. I don't know if Megan's role in Roxanne's kidnapping is documented in any court files or not.
By the way, dedication to the cause seems to run in the family. Megan's daughter Sara Fox was one of the plants run in on Vaughn and me when we were in Seattle. She had been in the Guardian's Office back in the early 1980s and was later in OSA. She called me one day and acted thrilled to talk to me again, although I hardly remembered her at all. But to hear her talk, she and I had been the best of friends.
We were suspicious of her from the beginning because her story didn't add up. She said she had gotten really sick and had ended up "dropping off" staff, and that her husband John, who had been in OSA at St. Hill in England, had also "dropped off" staff. Problem is, there's no such thing as "dropping off" staff, particularly if you're in OSA. She also said that her mother Megan had not been required to disconnect even though Sara was "no longer in good standing." Were she and John declared? Well, no, not exactly, she said. But they weren't in any more. The whole thing seemed fishy.
She tried many times to engage me in email conversation about what we were doing to "fight the Church," but I never chatted with her about anything more than her dogs, our dogs, and the cat sanctuary.
Finally one day I got a frantic call from Sara. She was calling from England. Oh, I'm so upset, she said. I'm so worried about you and Vaughn. I'm so afraid of what Scientology is going to do to you.
What's the matter? I asked, already on guard because there was something about her voice that didn't ring true, as if she were performing a script.
Oh, I'm just so afraid something will happen to you and there won't be any record of what Scientology did to you. You and Vaughn are writing a book about Scientology, aren't you?
This book thing is what Danny Fumigalli and a couple of other plants were sent in to check on, so as soon as she started asking about the book I knew she was fishing for information.
No, we're not writing a book, I said. Where did you get that idea? I've never told you we were writing a book, Sara.
Then she got really flustered and didn't know what to say. She put her hand over the mouthpiece of the phone, as if she were talking to someone else. When she got back on the line her tone of voice had totally changed.
All right then, Stacy, she said in a very matter-of-fact voice. Well, if you write a book you should send it to me because I'd like to read it. I have to go now.
Then she hung up, and I've never heard from her again.
Stacy Brooks wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:26:02 +0100, til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) > wrote:
> >On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:23:47 -0500, Stacy Brooks > ><stacybro...@mciworld.com> wrote in > ><9zGkOPtVztYhjcJFGIC6PVWEJ...@4ax.com>:
> >>Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and > >>transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided > >>with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard > >>Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne > >>was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her > >>parents. This was a total lie.
> >I would like to know who this doctor was, and if this could be found in > >the court files.
> Roxanne told me that it was Megan Shields. At the time of the incident, Megan > was at Shaw Health Center, a Scientology clinic owned by Gene Denk and Stephen > Price. I don't know if she is still there or, for that matter, if Shaw Health > Center still exists at all. I don't know if Megan's role in Roxanne's > kidnapping is documented in any court files or not.
FYI, Shaw is still there and her name is still on the wall. They now advertise numerous treatment programs for a variety of ills. Last couple of times I went in they had SO members acting as security guards standing just to the left of the front door in the driveway the leads to the parking lot behind the building.
Note that some of these are RPF, not isolation/IR/babywatch cases, but they do all have the common element of false imprisonment.
One of my ongoing projects is to comb affidavits and personal stories for words like "kidnapped" so that I can build a more complete list.
I know the one above is missing some names.
-- Kristi Wachter the activist formerly known as "Jour" (before $cientology outed me)
I think $cientology is hurting people and breaking the law, and I want them to stop it. See http://www.scientology-lies.com for more. Can you say "Xenu?" ... I knew that you could.
>> Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and >> transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided >> with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard >> Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne >> was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her >> parents. This was a total lie.
>Roxanne is the 6th kidnapping and/or illege confinement victim I know >about.
>1) Terry Findley
>2) the woman in the LA Times report
>3) Roxanne Friend
>4) (one I can't talk about yet)
>5) Lisa McPherson
>6) (another one from my area I can't give details on)
7) Bruce Welch, Apollo, 1973. Welch was the person Hubbard guinea pigged for his lock up and silence treatment "tech."
8) Gerry Armstrong, 1976. Confined and guarded in GO US at Fifield Manor by B-1 personnel on Hubbard's order.
>Come to think about it, wasn't Wollersheim held captive at some point?
>Keith Henson
>PS, with Roxanne dead and the episode beyond the statute of limitations >anyway, perhaps one of the guards is out and would like to come forward >about it.
>>> Roxanne told us that when she was kidnapped from her home in LA and >>> transported across the country to Clearwater, her guards were provided >>> with a note from a Scientology medical doctor in case anyone heard >>> Roxanne screaming to be let out of the RV. The note said that Roxanne >>> was mentally unstable and was being transported at the request of her >>> parents. This was a total lie.
>>Roxanne is the 6th kidnapping and/or illege confinement victim I know >>about.
>>1) Terry Findley
>>2) the woman in the LA Times report
>>3) Roxanne Friend
>>4) (one I can't talk about yet)
>>5) Lisa McPherson
>>6) (another one from my area I can't give details on)
>7) Bruce Welch, Apollo, 1973. Welch was the person Hubbard guinea >pigged for his lock up and silence treatment "tech."
>8) Gerry Armstrong, 1976. Confined and guarded in GO US at Fifield >Manor by B-1 personnel on Hubbard's order.
>9) Lynn Froyland, 1976? Fort Harrison.
>10) Margery Wakefield?
>(c) Gerry Armstrong
11) Arnie Lerma - I was locked in the wire fenced in old recieving room at the Hollywood in in the basement for an afternoon, approx 1973
I was placed under house arrest and confined in a room at the Fort Harrisson in Clearwater, after they found out about Suzette and my planes to elope after we got marriage licence and blood tests and had to wait 48 hours under Florida law. It was pried out of her during her daily auditing... approx 1977
>>Come to think about it, wasn't Wollersheim held captive at some point?
>>Keith Henson
>>PS, with Roxanne dead and the episode beyond the statute of limitations >>anyway, perhaps one of the guards is out and would like to come forward >>about it.
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak. The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers The internet is the liberty tree of the 90's http://www.lermanet.com - mentioned 4 January 2000 in The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD"