If this is what you all in LA think is a "protest" then I fear for our
cause.
It's Scarff, so what did you expect?
I like to see something a bit more formal and polite myself. Ok, a lot
more formal and polite. Of course many people find that boring.
Peach
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"cultxpt" <cul...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qs0w_WltC8
>
> If this is what you all in LA think is a "protest" then I
> fear for our cause.
AGP is an idiot and an attention whore.
That is NOT an LA protest.
Any protest with Scarff, AGP, AO etc...is their own little thing.
Their tactics are not well received by many.
They have the right, of course, but if you think they represent
LA...they do not.
Looking at WWP thread will confirm this. Of course, many of the
threads concerning these guys got so out of hand, they were sent to
the TD. You can only see the TD if you are logged into WWP.
Your cause? Who put you in charge of anything that anons do? Perhaps,
that's why they blow you off as Old Guard.
Critics are like assholes. Everyone has one. You're entitled to your
opinion.
LOL. Coming from someone whose definition of protesting is sitting
behind a keyboard and whining...
Of course, the ones that stand out because they do the most protesting
unlike yours truly who spends more time on his ass than doing anything
relevent to the "cause," are the ones that get the most criticism. If
you're not happy with how "Scarff, AGP, AO etc. represent LA", then
get off your ass & prove them wrong. But, no, just like the OG around
here, it's easier to sit back & whine.
>
> Looking at WWP thread will confirm this.
To each his own. Unlike many anons who raid for "the lulz" and because
it's fun, some have better reasons to bring Scientology's abuses to
the public. Contrary to the horseshit posted on this dying newsgroup,
I get calls & emails from around the world from parents who have seen
their "disconnected" chilldren from my videos and have provided them
some solace in knowing they are OK. One mother in England said she had
not seen her daughter since being "disconnected" in 1988 and saw her
in my video. Chuck Beatty has also been an invaluable resource to me.
His antics came off as childish playground taunts and made the Scilon
appear calm and mannerly by comparison. Sort of a role reversal,
actually.
Even a neutral cop is going to look at that and see who the aggressor is,
and form an opinion. I've never like "in yer face" picketing styles, but
this is one is full of fail and the sticky kind of cancer.
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Ron of that ilk.
And has demonstrated it repeatedly in the past. Without some kind of
statement apologizing for all those years of attacks, fake 'critic
testimony', and more-than-probable leaks to the cult, how is one to think of
GS any differently?
Wrong target Garry. The Rev Enturbulata has attended most of the London
Anonymous monthly protests.
Personally I'm all in favour of as many different lines of attack as
possible, as this is the proper way to conduct asymmetrical warfare. Some
will work better than others, but all contribute to DM's stress level.
The one thing NOT to do is to defend, as LRH pointed out. You guys
picketing Gold are doing so on your own, and are not I hope counting on
everyone else bailing you out (literally or metaphorically) if things go
wrong.
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Hartley Patterson
http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/
http://news-from-bree.blogspot.com
A bit late for that, I'd say...
;)
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barb
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide."
-Chris Leithiser
Hell, I can tolerate "in yer face" just fine if it is focused on the
issues. But there is a certain subtle drama to the sort of picketing
that provokes John Carmichael to say, "I smell pussy!" on camera. ;-)
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qs0w_WltC8
>
>If this is what you all in LA think is a "protest" then I fear for our
>cause.
10 boring useless minutes. Keith Henson would have loved being in
these videos, a great opportunity to hear yourself talk and watch
yourself talk.
Of interest is that this was in front of that 'winter wonderland'
thing and the monkeys raised the volume on their music system to drown
out the masks doing their thing. And the volume was so loud that
passerby's had to put fingers in their ears.
I often wonder if the internet has caused a raise in overall
intelligence among the current membership. And something like this
raising the volume to a stupid level suggests the members today are as
dumb as they were yesterday.
How about this...
If the intelligence level among current members is higher today does
that mean that scn will produce more 30 year members? Or will it
produce less 30 year members?
If the intelligence level among current members is lower today does
that mean that scn will produce more 30 year members? Or will it
produce less 30 year members?
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Quite the contrary, Stephen. I've apologized up the wa-zoo many times
and spoke in length with Graham Berry how to amend for my horrible
past playing double agent
to this very destructive cult. I am doing precisely what Graham Berry
& others suggested I do to make amends. The problem that you & other
critics on ARS have is that you
refuse to acknowledge this and is content on spewing & frothing.
That's on you; not me. Plus, you haven't been a knight in shining
armor yourself, Stephen, when it comes
to communication and treating others with respect.
The video you did questioning Dan Murnan outside the HGB was very
moving and impromptu. What happened to that kind of effective protest
approach? The video cultxpt is referring to is unavailable at this
time, so I didn't get to see it and don't know how bad the protesting
actions were but I trust Jeff's judgement and experience as a
protester to be concerned about the negative image of protesters
portrayed in the video. I do hope you recognize that your actions
reflect on others, whether associated or not and that you'll try to
remember that these people in scientology are victims and don't need
any more intimidation than they get from the cult.
ps: I'm glad you listened to your lawyer and stayed away from GOLD
because it's too easy to be entrapped out there.
Mary
Isn't that Garry Scarff? It looks like he's deliberately working for
the Scientology crooks as usual, if so.
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I emailed him a couple of weeks before the Scientology crooks racketeered
a fake harassement complaint against him, telling him that soon the crooks
would file fake harassment charges against him because of his behavior. I
got back a glib, stupid reply. Two weeks later after the crooks filed
fake complants against him, the stupid clown was still laughing.
AGP should sit in prison for a year to get an education he badly needs.
You really need to catch up with the times, blockhead. By the way, how
come YOU don't show up to raids. You whine & bawl with the hive on WWP
& SoCal Anonabout others, but you don't have the balls to stand up to
the cult anymore??
Depending on what Scientologist you talk to, I'm either a paid agent
of the CIA, paid by my psychiatrist (I don't have one), or I'm paid by
Glaxo, a pharmaceutical company to protest
the cult. If I'm a paid agent of any of these, I wish they'd pay me..
I could really use the $$$.