A&E show: Introduction
Dobe R Mann
doroth...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
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>Introduction: Plenty of short interviews with stars who are Scientologists:
>John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, Jena Elfman, Isaac Hayes.
>
>It showed the personal tragedy of Lisa McPherson as a matter driven out of
>proportion by a scandal-hungry media empire.
>
>David Miscavige put it very concisely into a few factual words, and
stressed
>that if there is all this fuss about it, then there must really be
something
>to Scientology.
>
>Then the show bridged over into a biographical section on L Ron Hubbard -
the
>founder of Scientology.
>
>Dorothy
>
>For more information about Scientology, visit
>
>http://www.scientology.org
Dot,
I think you're a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic.
Newbies--if you want to learn up the upper levels of scientology, Xenu, and
space cooties a great place to start is www.xenu.net
Dobe R Mann
SP3 Tone 1.95
__________________________________________________________________
"Look netizens! Another person just read about the Co$, Xenu, Elron and the
rest of the rot." "Watch now! .... look! .... oooohhh there they goes
folks!
Another ARSCC(wdne) member."
___________________________________________________________________
INCIDENT 4
LOUD SNAP (Bones breaking)
CHEVROLETS COME OUT
BURN RUBBER
FISHTAIL RIGHT
DO U-TURN
STALL
FLAT TIRE (No motion)
BLOWS HORN
BLOWS MISCAVIGE
CRASH
doroth...@my-dejanews.com
John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, Jena Elfman, Isaac Hayes.
It showed the personal tragedy of Lisa McPherson as a matter driven out of
proportion by a scandal-hungry media empire.
David Miscavige put it very concisely into a few factual words, and stressed
that if there is all this fuss about it, then there must really be something
to Scientology.
Then the show bridged over into a biographical section on L Ron Hubbard - the
founder of Scientology.
Dorothy
For more information about Scientology, visit
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http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
Chris Lyman
# Introduction: Plenty of short interviews with stars who are Scientologists:
# John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, Jena Elfman, Isaac Hayes.
#
# It showed the personal tragedy of Lisa McPherson as a matter driven out of
# proportion by a scandal-hungry media empire.
#
# David Miscavige put it very concisely into a few factual words, and stressed
# that if there is all this fuss about it, then there must really be something
# to Scientology.
Heh. That's not "factual", honey, that's sophistry.
There's "something" to scientology all right; something rotten and degraded.
--
Chris Lyman, SP4
Send email to chris-dot-lyman-atsign-pclink-dot-com.
I want a t-shirt that says "Ask me about post-modernism."
Rob Clark
>Introduction: Plenty of short interviews with stars who are Scientologists:
>John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, Jena Elfman, Isaac Hayes.
>It showed the personal tragedy of Lisa McPherson as a matter driven out of
>proportion by a scandal-hungry media empire.
>David Miscavige put it very concisely into a few factual words, and stressed
>that if there is all this fuss about it, then there must really be something
>to Scientology.
TRANSLATION:
our cult killed lisa mcpherson.
the fact that people were angry about this proves that we were right to kill
lisa mcpherson. it is in our creed: WE ARE LUNATICS and STUPID FUCKS.
>Then the show bridged over into a biographical section on L Ron Hubbard - the
>founder of Scientology.
then we all ran off and hid under blue tarps.
>Dorothy
rob
Clam Lice
>Then the show bridged over into a biographical section on L Ron Hubbard - the
>founder of Scientology.
I found it of particular interest how A&E mentioned Hubbard's connection to
Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley, and practiced Black Magick. Still proud of
your dead bloated leader, Dorothy?
Clam Lice
"75 million years ago, Xenu nuked billions of aliens
in volcanoes, and all I got was this lousy T-shirt"
http://www.xenu.net -- See for yourself
does6...@my-dejanews.com
doroth...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> It showed the personal tragedy of Lisa McPherson as a matter driven out of
> proportion by a scandal-hungry media empire.
What would really earn my respect, Ms. West, is if the people who, from their
great altitude of moral authority, drilled into me precepts of proper behavior
when I was younger were the ones who seemed today to be proper parties to have
spoken from so on high. Spin spin spin doesn't cut it. There isn't one
morality in private and another in front of TV cameras, I thought.
--
Does 6 through 10: all us zombies are reactivatable by telephone, you
know.
sabb...@my-dejanews.com
> John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, Jena Elfman, Isaac Hayes.
>
> proportion by a scandal-hungry media empire.
>
> that if there is all this fuss about it, then there must really be something
> to Scientology.
>
> founder of Scientology.
>
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
that's quite a tan you got der from our sun :)
Gnome
Someone is spamming alt.religion.scientology with a lot of
forged, crude and/or meaningless messages. There is a filter you can use
which will automatically remove or flag these pointless posts.
You can download this filter at:
http://www.hotel.wineasy.se/xemu/nfilter.html
(Hope the URL is right!)
The infamous "OTIII" document is discussed at:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/ot3.html
Also you can read about the Scientology controvery on the 'net:
http://www.xenu.net (against Scientology)
http://www.scientology.org (pro Scientology)
Both sites contain numerous links to all the info you might want.
wgert
He is generating more spam.
Each of these messages ended up as a *new* message.
It comes from Australia:
NNTP-Posting-Host: modem60-syd-isp-13.one.net.au
A good guess is that it's either Frank Copeland or David Gerard.
Copeland usually has more sense. That leaves Gerard.
Cut it out or get your account shut off. Your choice.
On 18 Dec 98 09:03:38 GMT, "Gnome" wrote:
>That message looked like SPAM to me.
>
>Someone is spamming alt.religion.scientology with a lot of
>forged, crude and/or meaningless messages. There is a filter you can use
>which will automatically remove or flag these pointless posts.
snip
Beverly Rice
Nothing as usual.
From: http://www.gate.net/~shipbrk/Co$/censored.html
On March 13th, 1998, Scientology unveiled its plans to flood the World
Wide Web (and, more importantly, the search engines which index the Web)
with pro-Scientology pages. (A RealAudio recording of the announcement
may be found here.)
Yet the "Scientology Web Kit" CD-ROM, which contains the programs to
automate the creation of the nearly-identical Scientologists' homepages,
contains another program, which users must agree to use. The wording
in the contract seems fairly innocuous; users must:
(6) agree to use the specific Internet Filter Program that CSI
has provided to you which allows you freedom to view other sites
on Dianetics, Scientology or its principals without threat of
accessing sites deemed to be using the Marks or Works in an
unauthorized fashion or deemed to be improper or discreditable to
the Scientology religion;
The filter, however, does more than it claims to. Certainly, it does
filter out sites hosted by splinter groups which have broken off from
the Church of Scientology and use Scientology materials "in an
unauthorized
fashion", such as freezone.org. It also blocks sites which are critical
of Scientology, such as http://www.xenu.net.
Yet the filter doesn't stop there. Scientologists cannot access the
online presences of newspapers which have run articles critical of
Scientology, such as the St. Petersburg Times and the Tampa Tribune,
both in Florida; the Stern and the Berliner Morgenpost in Germany;
even popular Web and Usenet search engines such as Alta Vista and
DejaNews are blocked, possibly because critical Usenet articles and
Web sites are available through them.
The filter does not limit itself to banning only the unwanted pages;
entire domains are blacklisted by the program. The author of this page,
for example, has a number of critical Web pages; because of this,
Scientologists who have installed the filter cannot access any pages
hosted by CyberGate, Inc., which claims to be the largest Internet
Service Provider in Florida. If any Scientologists in Florida happen
to use CyberGate, they cannot connect to their own pages, or any other
pages on CyberGate unrelated to Scientology.
A number of Usenet newsgroups are likewise blocked. It is obvious why
some groups made the list: alt.religion.scientology, where many critics
of Scientology gather; alt.clearing.technology, where former
Scientologists and "Free Zoners" discuss Scientology in an "unauthorized
fashion"; alt.support.ex-cult and cl.glauben.sekten, where Scientology
is discussed in terms of a cult rather than a legitimate religion. Less
obvious are groups such as misc.taxes, where Scientology's shady
deals with the IRS are sometimes discussed; rec.humor, which sometimes
contains jokes at Scientology's expense; alt.showbiz.gossip, where
Scientology's pet celebrities (such as Tom Cruise, John Travolta and
Kirstie Alley) are sometimes spoken of in less-than-glowing terms. For
reasons that as yet remain unclear, even alt.gothic is banned by the
Scientology filter.
Even IRC (Internet Relay Chat) and private email are not safe from
the filter. Both incoming and outgoing messages are filtered for
"forbidden" phrases, which fall into several categories.
The first category of banned words consists of terms from the secret
Scientology upper levels, which Scientologists must pay large amounts
of money to learn. Some of them, such as body thetan, are kept secret,
others, such as Marcabs, can be seen in the materials available to all
Scientologists, yet are inexplicably present in the list of prohibited
phrases.
The second category consists of the names of critics of Scientology or
cults in general. If these names are encountered, the filter quietly
replaces them with blank spaces; Scientologists are not allowed to even
see the names of the people who, for one reason or another, regard
Scientology as dangerous or sinister.
The third category involves names or terms embarrassing to Scientology.
For example, one banned name is Lisa McPherson, a Scientologist who
died at the end of a 17-day enforced isolation within a Scientology
building. Other banned terms include foot bullet, a term critics use
to refer to Scientology's habit of undertaking actions ultimately to
its disadvantage; 1990 deposition, a reference to a transcript of a
legal deposition taken of David Miscavige, the current leader of
Scientology, in which he portrayed himself as practically incompetent
to answer even the simplest questions; poodle and nipplehead, terms
occasionally used by some critics to refer to Miscavige; charlatan,
a frequent description of L. Ron Hubbard; raw meat, a Scientology term
for new recruits, and more.
Other terms include the titles of critical books, names of prominent
Web sites, and terms like Napoleon Bonaparte, picket, trillion, private
investigator, Ghost, and more.
Some of these terms, some of which are overly broad, have results
that were probably not intended by the creators of the Internet filter;
because Anima, the screen name of a critic of Scientology, is included
in
the list, the filter allows its users to see Web pages about Disney's l
Kingdom, rather than Disney's Animal Kingdom; because SP, the
abbreviation
for Suppressive Person (a term for a person considered to be an enemy
of Scientology), is included in the list, a popular character from Star
Trek becomes ock, children compete in elling bees, and so forth.
Indeed, since many Web pages use the keyword to indicate
necessary
whitespace, some pages become unreadable altogether.
The overall goal of the filter, it seems, is to prevent Scientologists
from seeing any critical information, even at the expense of other
information having nothing to do with Scientology.
Scientology boasts that it can help people learn to evaluate data more
capably; indeed, one of its slogans, associated with the pro-Scientology
Web page campaign, is Think for yourself. Yet by preventing its members
from seeing both sides of the issue, those members are forced to let
Scientology do their thinking for them. With alternate viewpoints
forbidden, they are given an incomplete set of data to evaluate. Many
coercive groups use this technique, called milieu control, to keep its
members loyal by eliminating any information which would cause them to
doubt or ask questions.
Does the Church of Scientology fear that its members, when given
alternate
viewpoints and the opportunity to truly think for themselves, might
find Scientology lacking? Is their worldview so fragile that even the
names of critics must be kept from their members?
[From Jeff Lee's excellent web page]
Beverly qaz/']
giz...@my-dejanews.com
wg...@loop.com (wgert) wrote:
> This Gnome is *not* replying to anything.
>
> He is generating more spam.
>
> Each of these messages ended up as a *new* message.
>
> It comes from Australia:
> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem60-syd-isp-13.one.net.au
> A good guess is that it's either Frank Copeland or David Gerard.
>
> Copeland usually has more sense. That leaves Gerard.
>
> Cut it out or get your account shut off. Your choice.
Hi Wgert! Are you going to use your authority as a Supernews sysadmin again?
How is your career going? Will Supernews be giving you a year-end bonus?
As a sysadmin, what have you done to help fight the flood of forged articles?
Since you are a Supernews admin, what steps has Supernews taken with this
problem? I am sure you could trace these crooks back to Scientology if you
really tried. You have information on both ends of the problem! You are very
tight with Mor^Hxon and are a sysadmin of a very important Internet company.
You have connections! You can tell us all about this annoying flood.
>
> On 18 Dec 98 09:03:38 GMT, "Gnome" wrote:
> >That message looked like SPAM to me.
> >
> >Someone is spamming alt.religion.scientology with a lot of
> >forged, crude and/or meaningless messages. There is a filter you can use
> >which will automatically remove or flag these pointless posts.
> snip
>
>
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Warrior
David Gerard", Beverly wrote:
>
>On March 13th, 1998, Scientology unveiled its plans to flood the World
>Wide Web (and, more importantly, the search engines which index the Web)
>with pro-Scientology pages. (A RealAudio recording of the announcement
>may be found here.)
http://www.gate.net/~shipbrk/Co$/censored.html
>Yet the "Scientology Web Kit" CD-ROM, which contains the programs to
>automate the creation of the nearly-identical Scientologists' homepages,
>contains another program, which users must agree to use. The wording
>in the contract seems fairly innocuous; users must:
>
> "(6) agree to use the specific Internet Filter Program that CSI
> has provided to you which allows you freedom to view other sites
> on Dianetics, Scientology or its principals without threat of
> accessing sites deemed to be using the Marks or Works in an
> unauthorized fashion or deemed to be improper or discreditable to
> the Scientology religion;"
>
>The filter, however, does more than it claims to. Certainly, it does
>filter out sites hosted by splinter groups which have broken off from
>the Church of Scientology and use Scientology materials "in an unauthorized
>fashion", such as freezone.org. It also blocks sites which are critical
>of Scientology, such as http://www.xenu.net.
http://www.entheta.net/entheta/1stpersn/
and http://www.factnet.org
>Yet the filter doesn't stop there. Scientologists cannot access the
>online presences of newspapers which have run articles critical of
>Scientology, such as the St. Petersburg Times and the Tampa Tribune,
>both in Florida; the Stern and the Berliner Morgenpost in Germany;
>even popular Web and Usenet search engines such as Alta Vista and
>DejaNews are blocked, possibly because critical Usenet articles and
>Web sites are available through them.
>
>The filter does not limit itself to banning only the unwanted pages;
>entire domains are blacklisted by the program. The author of this page,
>for example, has a number of critical Web pages; because of this,
>Scientologists who have installed the filter cannot access any pages
>hosted by CyberGate, Inc., which claims to be the largest Internet
>Service Provider in Florida. If any Scientologists in Florida happen
>to use CyberGate, they cannot connect to their own pages, or any other
>pages on CyberGate unrelated to Scientology.
The state of Florida has the second highest number of Scientologists
living within its boundaries (second only after the state of California).
Scientology even goes so far as to label those critical of Scientology
as "criminals", in accordance with L Ron Hubbard's policies.
The "Creed of the Church [sic] of Scientology" by L Ron Hubbard states:
"We of the Church [sic] believe:
"That all men have inalienable rights to think freely,
to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and
to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others."
Yet the so-called "church" makes it a "crime" to openly criticize
Scientology and Scientologists. No critical discussion of Scientology
is tolerated by the cult. The cult follows Hubbard's dictate that
those criticizing Scientology are criminals who have undisclosed
crimes. Criticizing Scientology is called "nattering" (meaning, to
engage in negative chatter). Talking about Scientology in a derogatory
manner is considered to be engaging in "entheta" communication.
"Entheta" is Hubbardspeak for "enturbulated theta", which in english
is bad news or criticism of Scientology.
To remain in good standing as a member of the Scientology "religion",
one must NEVER criticize Scientology or Scientologists. Violations
of this rule are dealt with by sending the member to the "Ethics
Officer" who causes the member to conform to the party line by
enforcing a strict code of "ethics" and "justice", complete with
assignment of "lower conditions", "amends" and other ass-kissing
acts.
The reason why Scientology censors its members' access to numerous
Internet sites, terms and authors is that the cult does not want
the membership to communicate with or read the writings of those
labelled "SP". Violations of this are considered to be remaining
connected to a "Potential Trouble Source" or "Suppressive Person".
This is NOT allowed in Scienoland.
Scientology Policy Directive 28, entitled "SUPPRESSIVE ACT
DEALING WITH A DECLARED SUPPRESSIVE PERSON" dated 13 August 1982,
issued by Scientology's "Watchdog Committee" states:
"To maintain a line with, offer support to, or in any
way grant credance [sic] to such a person [an "SP"]
indicates nothing more than agreement with that person's
destructive intentions and acts."
"...unless you are the named authorized terminal to deal with
the Suppressive Person, to deal with one constitutes no less
than a Suppressive Act."
"If you wish to maintain such a line [being in communication
or association with an "SP"], do so outside of current and
future membership in the Church [sic]."
"To deal with a Suppressive is a Suppressive Act."
"The above is unequivocal Church [sic] policy."
It is my firm belief that most Scientologists posting to this newsgroup
do so because they have been designated by Scientology as an "authorized
terminal" whose *JOB* is to "handle". By definition this includes
SPAMMING the newsgroup.
Gnome
>In article <367a7eec....@news.loop.com>,
> wg...@loop.com (wgert) wrote:
>> This Gnome is *not* replying to anything.
>>
>> He is generating more spam.
>>
>> Each of these messages ended up as a *new* message.
>>
>> It comes from Australia:
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem60-syd-isp-13.one.net.au
>> A good guess is that it's either Frank Copeland or David Gerard.
A _good_ guess?? It seems like Scientology hasn't turned you into the
super-human that they promised.
>> Copeland usually has more sense. That leaves Gerard.
How come you don't just blame Xenu. In your belief system he was a
galactic ruler don'tcha know.
Christians for example sometimes blame Satan when they are tempted.
Wgert I am disgusted when I read about the experiences of people inside
your cult, I wouldn't even wish the RPF hard labour and so on on you. I
am disgusted when I see recruiters on the streets trying to entice people
in. I feel sorry for you Wgert.
Chris Lyman
# This Gnome is *not* replying to anything.
#
# He is generating more spam.
#
# Each of these messages ended up as a *new* message.
#
# It comes from Australia:
# NNTP-Posting-Host: modem60-syd-isp-13.one.net.au
# A good guess is that it's either Frank Copeland or David Gerard.
#
# Copeland usually has more sense. That leaves Gerard.
#
# Cut it out or get your account shut off. Your choice.
As always, put up or shut up, gertie.
David Gerard
:This Gnome is *not* replying to anything.
:He is generating more spam.
:Each of these messages ended up as a *new* message.
:It comes from Australia:
:NNTP-Posting-Host: modem60-syd-isp-13.one.net.au
:A good guess is that it's either Frank Copeland or David Gerard.
:Copeland usually has more sense. That leaves Gerard.
:Cut it out or get your account shut off. Your choice.
But I *am* Frank Copeland. I'm also the poster formerly known as
'The Squirrel'.
--
http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/ http://suburbia.net/~fun/scn/
The Internet is full. Go away.
Ron Newman
not a spammer. Neither are David Gerard or Frank Copeland.
Speaking of Frank, is he still online? Haven't seen him in
quite some time.
--
Ron Newman rne...@thecia.net
http://www2.thecia.net/users/rnewman/
Ron Newman
> > From: eho...@mailexcite.com
> > Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> > Subject: The Phelps Problem
> > Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:12:19 GMT
> > Organization: The Equalizers
> > Lines: 104
> > Message-ID: <74jmlh$499$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
> >
> > Tired of the .jpgs and .wavs being posted in alt.revisionism by Phelps
> > aliases? - namely white supremacist, anti-semitic Karl Hockenbarger and
> > sons Charles and James? Let them know how you feel.
>
> > Silence is acquiescence!
>
>silence is golden especially coming from a child molesting little
>pervert such as you -- make your ways right before yahweh evil faggot
Karl and Deborah Kay Hockenbarger
1929 S.W. Lane
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-233-1848
Charles W. and Mary Hockenbarger
711 N.W. Page
Topeka, Kansas 66617
home: 785-246-1567
Karl and Deborah Kay Hockenbarger
James Hockenbarger/Jennifer Hockenbarger
1929 S.W. Lane
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-233-1848
work: 785-296-3959
Rachel Phelps Hockenbarger and Charles F. Hockenbarger (daughter and
son-in-law of
Fred Sr.)
1284 S.W. Hillsdale
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-273-9706
Then, of course, there's the rest of the crew:
Fred W. and Margie M. Phelps, Sr.
Westboro Baptist Church
3701 S.W. 12th Street
Topeka, Kansas 66604
phone: 785-273-0338/273-0325
fax: 785-273-9228
Benjamin Phelps
3632 S.W. Churchill
Topeka, Kansas 66604
785-233-4162
Rebekah Phelps-Davis and Chris Davis-Phelps
1216 S.W. Cambridge
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-272-7741
Fred W. Phelps. Jr. and Betty Phelps
3600 S. W. Holly Lane
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-272-4135
(work) 785-296-3195
Margie J. Phelps
3734 S.W. 12th
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-273-7380
(work) 785-296-3317
Shirley Phelps-Roper and Brent Roper-Phelps
3640 S.W. Churchill
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-273-1445/273-0277/272-1619
Jonathan and Paulette Phelps
840 S.W. Watson
Topeka, Kansas 66606
Elizabeth Phelps
2001 S.W. 2nd Street
Topeka, Kansas 66606
(work) 785-233-0822
Abigail Phelps
3636 S.W. Churchill
Topeka, Kansas 66604
785-273-7262
(work) 785-296-7709
Timothy and LeAnn Phelps
3743 S.W. 12th Street
Topeka, Kansas 66604
home: 785-273-4780
work: 785-291-5100
Theresa Davis
3632 S.W. 12th Street
Topeka, Kansas 66604
(work) 785-291-7000
Phelps Chartered
1414 S.W. Topeka
Topeka, Kansas 66612
phone: 785-233-4162
fax: 785- 233-0766
Nick Andrew
>I'm not sure how this thread started, but Gnome is certainly
>not a spammer.
wgert is looking for an excuse to accuse anybody other than $cientology of
spamming this newsgroup. Gnome's messages were clear enough to anybody
who hasn't taken the ``comm course'', i.e. he was pointing out spam
messages. Thanks but no thanks, we don't need them pointed out to us.
Nick.
--
Zeta Internet SP4 Fax: +61-2-9233-6545 Voice: 9231-9400
G.P.O. Box 3400, Sydney NSW 1043 http://www.zeta.org.au/
David Gerard
:I'm not sure how this thread started, but Gnome is certainly
:not a spammer. Neither are David Gerard or Frank Copeland.
:Speaking of Frank, is he still online? Haven't seen him in
:quite some time.
thingy:~> f fjc
Login: fjc Name: Frank Copeland
Directory: /home/fjc Shell: /bin/bash
Last login Sat Dec 19 12:04 (EST) on ttyp3 from wossname.apana.o
Mail last read Sun Dec 20 17:26 1998 (EST)
No Plan.
Sean Price
Dobe R Mann wrote:
>
> INCIDENT 4
>
> LOUD SNAP (Bones breaking)
> CHEVROLETS COME OUT
> BURN RUBBER
> FISHTAIL RIGHT
> DO U-TURN
> STALL
> FLAT TIRE (No motion)
> BLOWS HORN
> BLOWS MISCAVIGE
> CRASH
This had me laughing so hard that my eyes watered.
Sean
Gnome
>In article <3675CB42...@earthlink.net>, Richard Phillips
><rgp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>ORAC wrote:
>>
>>> In article <19981213140748...@ng13.aol.com>,
>>> deppi...@aol.com....plex (DeppityBob) wrote:
>>>
>>> >Well, honestly, Parker, I consider insurrective words against my
>country to be
>>> >threatening words. Now, does that mean I consider them a threat? Of
>course not.
>>
>>================================================
>>
>>Phillips
>>
>>Dan's words were not against his country; they were against the power
>that presently
>>rules it. The two are not the same.
>
>I must have missed something. When was our government supposedly taken
>over by another power?
>
1933!
Dan Parker
>>> Yes, it does get rather old to hear the same old predictions from
>>> Danny-boy of a "civil war" in which the Poor Afflicted White Man Will
Take
>>> Back What Is His from the Evil Brown (Multicultural) Hordes.
>>
>>===========================================
>>
>>Phillips
>>
>>Dan felt it only fair to warn you.
>
>Warning duly noted. However, it is entirely unnecessary because Dan and
>his ilk will never be a threat to this nation.
>
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>Chicago, IL | insolent" ORAC
Fredric L. Rice
>David Miscavige put it very concisely into a few factual words, and stressed
>that if there is all this fuss about it, then there must really be something
>to Scientology.
You forgot to mention the fact that Miscavage and Rinder ended up
ranting their traditional rant and that nobody was fooled. You also
forgot to kmention that Travolta read his script as he was instructed
and trained to do. And curiously you forgot to mention the fact that
a great deal of information covering the crimes and frauds of the
Scientology crime syndicate was touched upon.
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Fredric L. Rice
>fuck with your local skinheads. we are everywhere and I'm su
Another brilliant cockroach! All one has to do is read the babble you post to
uncover your insignificance. You'll get what you deserve - which is nothing.
Why don't you run along and blow up a building or beat up an old lady. Do what
you do best. Leave the "figurin" to those of us with brains.
Now run along little sheeple.