Scientology cured my homosexuality
Phil Hendrie
overcome my strong homosexual urges. I tried everything else but to no
avail. I knew homosexuality was wrong and I was worried about becoming a
pedophile. After 1 year with the scientologist my urges were simply gone. I
felt at peace with myself. Scientology does do some wonderful things for
people and I wish more would acknowledge it. I am no longer a scientologist
but I am no longer a homosexual. Thanks to the scientologists.
Phil
hoser1605
wrote:
Lying bastard. Does it feel good staring at yourself in the mirror
knowing you've seriously misled people about a very important
subject? Scumbag.
Django
wrote:
So, same time tonight at the Rest Stop?
Astrid
>
> Lying bastard. Does it feel good staring at yourself in the mirror
> knowing you've seriously misled people about a very important
> subject? Scumbag.
Yeah, for one thing, who finishes college and then becomes a
Scientologist. Well, I guess a few do, but it's not the usual order of
things.
But the real clincher is "I knew homosexuality was wrong and I was
worried about becoming a pedophile." That's like saying, "I knew
premarital sex with my girlfriend was wrong, I and I was worried about
becoming a rapist." Or, "I wanted to become a Catholic priest, but I
was worried about turning into a pedophile."
Peter Schilte
wrote:
1. Who or what made you think that homosexuality is wrong?
2. It is not gone, it is only suppressed because your mind is occupied
with other things. As soon as your this is over, it will be back. Why?
Because it is YOU. And denying what you are NEVER made any person
happy, and I mean REALLY happy. All you have done now is denied
yourself, replaced it with something else. You didn't change.
Homosexuality can not be "cured", neither can heterosexuality,
bisexuality or pedosexuality. All you can do is suppress it. Stop
fooling yourself, or being fooled by scientology.
Scientology can make you feel at peace with yourself, even when they
make you empty all your bank accounts and bank savings. Even when you
disconnect from your parents, brothers and sisters.
Peter
"That which works in $cientology
is not unique to $cientology,
and that which is unique to $cientology
does not work."
- Prufrock
Bobb999
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I agree with those commenters skeptical about the claimed "cured"
homosexual. I think his story's bogus in its entirety.
A glaring giveaway the post is not authentic is the point Astrid nails
where Phil Hendrie says his homosexuality made him worry "about
becoming a pedophile"!
The notion that being homosexual is likely to make one a pedophile
too, is not an idea an actual gay person, cured or not, would ever
believe or voice. It's a red herring, a falsehood purveyed by
homophobes and some social conservatives with an agenda to confuse and
conflate issues. A convenient fear-mongering tactic to use against
homosexuals: equate gayness with pedophilia. Gays are no more likely
to be pedophiles than straight people are - as any actual gay person
would know. That's why I'm skeptical Mr. Hendrie was ever in fact
gay.
Imo, he's an imposter!
slobeck
<lpxinl...@invalid.invalid> said:
if you were worried about becomming a pedophile. News flash, it's
because you ARE a pedophile. What you're worried about is whether
you'll actually rape a child. Whether you are gay or not has NOTHING to
do with pedophielia. And you cannot be cured of your gayness. I
don't usually make ad hominem attacks but you, sir, are a douchbag. On
many levels.
sl�
slobeck
sl� touches tip of nose. <ding! ding!>
Gregory Hall
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You are wrong and I can prove it. Ever hear of NAMBLA a gay organization
that promotes man-boy 'love' (actually sodomy)? This proves to just about
any thinking person that gay men are latent pedophiles. I understand NAMBLA
has tens of thousands of members (no pun intended). So don't tell me that
gay men aren't pedophiles.
--
Gregory Hall
Gregory Hall
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Wrong! You aren't a bank robber if you only think about robbing banks. You
aren't a speeder if you only think about exceeding the speed limit. You
aren't a shop lifter unless you actually shoplift the goods. Thinking about
shoplifting is not shoplifting.
And, you are no pedophile as long as all you do is think about it. You
become pedophile if and when you engage in the act.
The same goes for homosexuals. You can think about it all you want and that
doesn't make you a homosexual. It's only when you engage in homo sex that
you become a homosexual. The deviant ACT defines the person. This is why
one can safely say homosexuals are NOT born, they are made. Genetics might
cause one to think about homosexuality but only by engaging in sodomy does a
man become a homosexual sodomite.
--
Gregory Hall
Astrid
>
> You are wrong and I can prove it. Ever hear of NAMBLA a gay organization
> that promotes man-boy 'love' (actually sodomy)? This proves to just about
> any thinking person that gay men are latent pedophiles. I understand NAMBLA
> has tens of thousands of members (no pun intended). So don't tell me that
> gay men aren't pedophiles.
>
"So don't tell me that gay men aren't pedophiles." Sure some gay men
are pedophiles, but it isn't out of proportion to straight men who are
pedophiles, per capita. This was mentioned by someone above, but it
didn't register in your troll brain.
Ever hear of KKK? It's all straight white males. Does it prove all
white men are racists?
Gregory Hall
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You missed the point which was who else is so depraved that they proudly
support a national organization that openly promotes pedophilia? Only the
gays! This should tell you they are militant and sick beyond belief. At
least other pedophiles realize how sick it is and try to hide their
disgusting perversions. But, not gay men.
Get a clue. There is NOTHING admirable or normal about gay sodomy. Heck,
even heterosexual sodomy is beyond the pale afaic.
--
Gregory Hall
husk
> "Bobb999" <bobjb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
A pedophile a person who is attracted to pre-pubescent children. Just
as heterosexuals are not attracted to pre-pubescent children, neither
are homosexuals. Peodophiles may be attracted to the same or
opposite sex, but they are not the same orientation as either homo or
hetero sexual people.
An adult hetero or homo sexual person who has sex with a post-
pubescent, but underage person is a rapist, not a pedophile.
Lawrence
"Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake> wrote in message
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I can be honest be here.
I can verify for a fact that homosexuality is just not for me.
I actually do not know anyone who it is really for and I
certainly would not wish it on anyone.
As far as the reason some people are gay, I do not believe it
comes from their reactive minds because I know two OT VII's
that are gay men and we do not at all see thing eye to eye.
They have a misunderstanding apparently over their gender
attributes.
When you consider some of the very ill things that gay oriented
people men and women do, such as Cher's daughter Chastity who
is in the middle of transgenderment from female to male, or men
who get their penis's cut off and get breast implants?
--
Read "The Diary Of A Scientologist"
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/
Larry
Gregory Hall
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To be more precise a pedophile is somebody having a condition called
pedophilia and pedophilia is defined as: an abnormal condition in which an
adult has a sexual desire for children.
But, the only pedophile anybody worries about is a convicted pedophile, in
other words, a person who has commited the act, been caught, tried,
convicted etc. There is no civil or criminal law broken by thinking or
desiring as per the definition.
:: An adult hetero or homo sexual person who has sex with a post-
:: pubescent, but underage person is a rapist, not a pedophile.
Wrong. I would say both. I would call them a pedophile rapist. (If under the
laws of the country the union was illegal. Remember in some countries one
can have consentual sex with those as young as 12.)
--
Gregory Hall
Bobb999
> "Bobb999" <bobjb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
______________________________________
Gregory Hall:
"You are wrong and I can prove it. Ever hear of NAMBLA a gay
organization
that promotes man-boy 'love' (actually sodomy)? This proves to just
about
any thinking person that gay men are latent pedophiles. I understand
NAMBLA
has tens of thousands of members (no pun intended). So don't tell me
that
gay men aren't pedophiles."
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Firstly, according to psychologists, a pedophile properly defined, is
attracted to pre-pubescent children. Someone having sex with a
teenager who happens to be under the age of consent, may be guilty of
a crime and may be a victimizer, but is not accurately termed a
pedophile, if they are attracted to sexually mature teens.
I think NAMBLA is a slimey organization, and I don't defend it, but
it's likely many members are probably interested in mature or semi-
mature teenage boys and in legally lowering the age of consent, but
are not necessarily interested in pre-pubescent children at all
(though I'm sure some are). Considering there are millions of gay men
in the US alone, the number of NAMBLA members is a tiny minority of
the gay population, so they can hardly be considered representative of
the entire gay male population, as you try to claim. And as I say,
many NAMBLA members are probably not exactly pedophiles either.
I would point out many heterosexual men, despite age of consent laws,
find teenage girls attractive.There was even a hit movie on this
theme, "American Pie".
Is this any different than a gay man attracted to a teenage boy? I'm
sure most straight men who come across an attractive, though underage
girl would be responsible enough to resist the temptation try to act
on those feelings. Same goes for most gay men, I would think.
To say "gay men are latent pedophiles" is total slander, as there is
no evidence that any more than a small minority of people (whether gay
or straight) are attracted to prepubescent children.
It is true that predators will gravitate to jobs and positions that
give access and power over victims. This may explain the number of
Catholic priests caught abusing children. It was an occupation that
offered access to & power over victims. Native Indian residential
schools were another example of offering jobs pedophile predators
coveted, thus the large number of abuse cases at such schools. None of
this is any kind of evidence that homosexual men as a group are latent
pedophiles!
As to your dubious point that gays are "made" not born, that is
someone (according to you) isn't gay until they commit a gay act.
Using your reasoning, I guess you were not born heterosexual (assuming
you are heterosexual today that is). By your logic, you yourself were
presumably not heterosexual as a young teenager either - that is not
until that fateful first act with a girl! Prior to that you were
completely non-sexually defined, a blank slate, but magically with
that first kiss and cuddle, you suddenly transformed into a new
being,"hetero-boy"! That doesn't much sense. Sexual orientation means
just that - orientation - it refers to what gender(s) one is attracted
to, NOT if one has yet had sex or not!
Your post reeks of the worst kind of social conservative
misinformation, intolerance, and prejudice.
Alert
wrote:
"No pervert ever became a pervert without having been educated or
abused by a pervert. And that abuse must have been very thorough. "
-LaFayette Ronald Hubbard
Dianetics-The Original These
"I have a very bad masturbatory history. I was taught when I was 11
and, despite guilt, fear of insanity, etc. etc. I persisted. At a
physical examination at a Y when I was about 13, the examiner and the
people with him called me out of the line because my testicles hung
low and cautioned me about what would happen if I kept on
masturbating. This "discovery" was a bad shock to me."
- LaFayette Ronald Hubbard-- The Affirmations
(entered into court records and never challenged by Cof$)
"The sexual pervert (and by this term dianetics, to be brief,includes
any and all forms of deviation in Dynamic II such as homosexuality,
lesbianism, sexual sadism, etc. and all down the catalogue of Ellis
and Krafft-Ebing) is actually quite ill physically. Perversion as an
illness has so many manifestations that it must be spread through the
entire gamut of classes from (1) to (5) above. Over-development of
sexual organs, underdevelopment, seminal inhibition or magnification,
etc. are found some in one pervert, some in another. And the sum of
it is that the pervert is always a very ill person in one way or
another, whether he is conscious of it or not. He is very far from
culpable for his condition, but he is also so far from normal and so
extremely dangerous to society that the tolerance of perversion is as
thoroughly bad for society as punishment for it. "
LaFayette Ronald Hubbard--Dianetics-The Modern Science of Mental
Health
Peter Schilte
> "slobeck" <polymorp...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:2009112413265216807-polymorphic@earthlinknet...
>
>
>
> > On 2009-11-24 06:22:38 -0800, "Phil Hendrie"
>
> >> After finishing college I became a scientologist. It was my last resort
> >> to
> >> overcome my strong homosexual urges. I tried everything else but to no
> >> avail. I knew homosexuality was wrong and I was worried about becoming a
> >> pedophile. After 1 year with the scientologist my urges were simply gone.
> >> I
> >> felt at peace with myself. Scientology does do some wonderful things for
> >> people and I wish more would acknowledge it. I am no longer a
> >> scientologist
> >> but I am no longer a homosexual. Thanks to the scientologists.
>
> >> Phil
>
> > you ARE a pedophile. What you're worried about is whether you'll actually
> > rape a child. Whether you are gay or not has NOTHING to do with
> > pedophielia. And you cannot be cured of your gayness. I don't usually
> > make ad hominem attacks but you, sir, are a douchbag. On many levels.
>
>
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> [REPLY]
>
> Wrong! You aren't a bank robber if you only think about robbing banks. You
> aren't a speeder if you only think about exceeding the speed limit. You
> aren't a shop lifter unless you actually shoplift the goods. Thinking about
> shoplifting is not shoplifting.
>
> And, you are no pedophile as long as all you do is think about it. You
> become pedophile if and when you engage in the act.
>
> The same goes for homosexuals. You can think about it all you want and that
> doesn't make you a homosexual. It's only when you engage in homo sex that
> you become a homosexual. The deviant ACT defines the person. This is why
> one can safely say homosexuals are NOT born, they are made. Genetics might
> cause one to think about homosexuality but only by engaging in sodomy does a
> man become a homosexual sodomite.
>
> --
> Gregory Hall
Your logic fails, as there is a big difference between a pedophile and
a pedosexual.
The latter is a child abuser.
Peter
"Scientology's upper level spiritual therapy is essentially dead space
alien souls exorcism."
- Chuck Beatty
xenufrance
"Astrid" <Astrid...@yahoo.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
006e4cd5-917c-4525...@g22g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
<great argument ;-))
<r
boom...@gmail.com
Then look up..."Nevada Executes Man in Homosexual Killings".
This is about Sean Patrick Flanagan...who thought he was doing society a favor for killing 2 men who were HS, but both had BEFRIENDED HIM!!!...he himself is homosexual...and HATES IT...THINKS IT IS WRONG...
Where is that on the Tone Scale? It ain't 3.5...
Lots of "confused" people methinks...
rogergonnet
<boom...@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
9b8b8c4e-2451-4748...@googlegroups.com...
>> After finishing college I became a scientologist. It was my last resort
>> to
>> overcome my strong homosexual urges. I tried everything else but to no
>> avail. I knew homosexuality was wrong
insanities?
and I was worried about becoming a
>> pedophile.
were not cured of sich attraction toward young people even after clearing
and OT levels... neither were they cured of the many illnesses they
developed even when OT VIIIs!
Rev Dr John Benjamin Tatum DD PhD
Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
>But Tom Cruise has been "on lines" and gone far "Up the Bridge" and he has not been cured. Perhaps you should Audit him and cure him of his homosexuality since he is SCN #2 after David Miscavage.
--
Sir Gregory
rogergonnet
"Rev Dr John Benjamin Tatum DD PhD" <JBT...@worldnet.att.net> a écrit dans
le message de news: 2a754d99-2183-4bde...@googlegroups.com...
> not been cured. Perhaps you should Audit him and cure him of his
> homosexuality since he is SCN #2 after David Miscavage.
I don't suppose himself went to fuck the old fat fucker.
roger....@live.com
Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.
elitism needs to be put into the mix as well. The way
Scientology is set up is like a plantation. The rich
white slave owners (Sea Org bosses) enslave the poor,
hapless and delusional recruits and treat them like
the niggers they consider them to be.
--
Sir Gregory