The methods used against Tom, however bizarre and strange, would fit
in perfectly with the manipulative types of Scientology Black Ops
described by Mike McCloughry in his XenuTV interview video, (which can
be viewed at   http://www.xenutv.com/trust/mike.htm )

For those who weren't aware of the story, Tom Klemesrud's BBS was the
upstream provider of Dennis Erlich's a.r.s internet feed back in
1994-95. If you aren't aware of who Dennis Erlich is, then just
realize that back in 1995, he was the cult's enemy #1, just as Bob
Minton is today.

One day, early in 95, Erlich had replied via the BBS feed, to an
anonymously posted a.r.s message containing copyrighted OT materials.
Erlich quoted the message and said simply, "it looks like the actual
OT material to me" (may not be the exact quote, it something very akin
to that). For this awful and terrible and criminal breach (that's a
joke), the RTC actually raided and sued Dennis, while at the same
time, they tried to pressure Tom Klemesrud to cut off Dennis' internet
access. Tom refused, and said that he'd need the RTC to show him proof
of copyright ownership before he would do that. They refused to show
him proof, and instead sued Tom for "contributory infringement."
Sometime later, Tom's liability insurance carrier force Tom to settle
with the cult.

But some time after this all began, Tom got a bit drunk at a bar with
a woman who claimed to be an FBI agent. From Tom's account, it
appeared that she chatting him up and flirting with him. She claimed
to want to see Tom's computer setup. Tom agreed, probably thinking he
might be getting lucky.

So they both went to Tom's apartment (taking a cab, which I found very
commendable, as both were somewhat inebriated). Up to this point,
there doesn't appear to be any disagreement. But from here on out,
there are two, wildly different accounts of what happened. According
to Tom, once in his apartment, things turned ugly. The woman went into
his bathroom, removed her jeans, and he says she took a plastic tube
containing some blood-red goo from between her legs, and began
flinging it around, splashing it on the walls of his apartment.
According to Tom, she told him that she represented Scientology and if
he knew what was good for him, he'd better start doing what
Scientology demanded.

Tom then claimed that he dialed 911 and took a shotgun out of his
closet to protect himself, in case the woman attempted to do anything
even crazier. The cops came. Tom told his version of the story, which
sounds pretty unbelievable. She told the cops her hemorrhoids had been
bleeding and that he had threatened her with the gun. If I recall
correctly, the cops then arrested Tom.

On a.r.s, the Scientology sock puppets sprang into action, bringing
all sorts of DA materials out about Tom and alternative theories about
what happened. They accused him of being not credible, of being
violent, unstable, a drunk, etc. All in all, not unlike the stupid
lies they were recently saying about Mark Bunker following his bogus
arrest in Chicago.

The clambot party line was that the woman in Tom's apartment, whoever
she might be, had nothing whatsoever to do with Scientology, and that
Tom was either hallucinating or simply making up his story about her
claiming to intimidate him in the name of Scientology. They claimed
that he was in a cynical and malicious way, trying to unfairly malign
Scientology for something that involved just him and some drunk
"lady."

By virtue of the sock puppets intense sneering and smearing of both
Tom and Dennis, I was somewhat convinced that Tom's story was probably
the truth.

Tom later posted a transcript of a part of the 911 tape (it was only a
partial, because the LAPD couldn't find the remaining portions of the
recording). The part that was transcribed fit almost exactly with
Tom's earlier recollection of the 911 call, and verified at least that
part of his account. It also made it pretty clear that the name
Scientology had been used in his apartment by his "guest."  From the
tape, it was clear that as the blood smearing was happening, Tom
honestly believed an OSA agent was threatening him. He was clearly not
making up a story in a calculated, devious, intentional way. His
somewhat inebriated state also ruled out every possibility except
three. Either he was telling the truth, or else he was an accomplished
actor with a completely devious mind, or he was capable of creating an
elaborate ruse instantly, while under the influence, and under the
stress of having a strange and naked FBI agent woman, bleeding badly
from her butt, in his apartment.

After that, there would have been very little that could have shaken
my confidence in Tom's version of the story.

But then, the cult's version of events were further discredited. In
direct contradiction of the shore stories being fed to the newsgroup
by the clambots, Helena Kobrin took an affidavit from one Linda
Woolard to the L.A. police. Woolard's affidavit claimed that it was
she who was with Tom that night, and it was she who had bloodied Tom's
apartment walls with blood from her hemorrhoids, which she claimed had
erupted and began spurting only after Tom had spontaneously threatened
her with a shotgun.

The affidavit's hemorrhoid story was ludicrous on its face. Moreover,
if Linda Woolard had nothing to do with Scientology, why did she give
her sworn affidavit to Moxon and Kobrin? And how would she even know
about them? How would they know about her?

One of the sock puppets, I believe it was Andrew Milne, weakly claimed
on the newsgroup, that because Scientology was being seen as
unbelievable by a.r.s critics, the cult had decided to seek out the
Woolard woman to find out the truth. But then, how did they find her?
No one knew her real name, as she had given Tom a false name and
falsely claimed to be an FBI agent. How did Scientology find out her
identity if, as Andrew Milne had claimed, she had nothing at all to do
with Scientology?

Milne later floated out a second theory that she must have contacted
Scientology's lawyers after reading all the stories about herself on
the internet. He was pressed on his claim. Did he know if she had done
this, or was this just his acceptable truth shore story? Milne simply
wouldn't say.

The questions arose that if Woolard thought she needed a lawyer, why
would she contact Scientology's lawyers? Why would she not contact a
lawyer out of the yellow pages? Why would she even think she needed to
contact a lawyer at all? After all, she was in no legal trouble, as
far as anyone could tell. No cops appeared to think she needed
arresting for bloodying Tom's walls. No feds appeared to want to
question her for impersonating an FBI agent. Woolard to the best of
anyone's knowledge, had never posted to the newsgroup. If she really
had seen the newsgroup, and wanted to correct false statements, she
could have done so directly, without hiring a lawyer.

Also, contrary to the sock puppet shore story, Kobrin never posted the
affidavit to a.r.s or anywhere else where it would quell criticism.
No, she took the affidavit to the LAPD, probably so she could then use
it as some sort of alleged "police" evidence that she could
subsequently introduce into the civil action they were mounting
against Tom.

I think there is only one conclusion. Quite simply, Scientology tried
to terrorize Tom in order to shut him up, and to coerce his
participation in the silencing of Dennis Erlich.

As unbelievable as all this sounds, the edict to Scientologists to act
this way is right in the LRH policies. Critics were being shown in a
quite literal way, the Scientology policy that says bring actual blood
sex crime evidence to bear against enemies. We were being shown that
Scientology would even stage terrorist acts to manufacture such
evidence.

Needless to say, you stupid OSA culties, it didn't work. And it's
still not working. It's not likely ever to work. Why don't you try a
new tack, like listening, and making reasonable accommodation to the
critics? Nah, what am I saying. The brainwashed will never accept such
woggish 1.1 suggestion as mine, to be kind to people, even those
people they would like to label as enemies.

Oh, BTW, later, an offloaded ex-Scientologist who still was in thrall
to Scientology (Keith Little, posting as 'Whippersnapper') argued
strenuously for the plausibility of Woolard's affidavit, and even went
searching for medical support for the theory that someone's asshole
might actually spurt blood with enough force to have blood hitting the
walls.

He was informed by at least one physician that if someone was bleeding
like that, it would mean ruptured arteries, and the afflicted person
would be in very immediate danger of dying from loss of blood. But did
Linda Woolard's affidavit mention needing medical help? Did she get
weak from loss of blood? No, quite the contrary. According to all
accounts, including her affidavit, she refused medical treatment when
asked by the cops at Tom's apartment. She just waltzed out into the
Los Angeles night, as fit as a fiddle.

I don't know how Whippersnapper ultimately munged that information
around in his mind to exonerated Scientology, but somehow, he seemed
to do it.

So that's the basic story of Miss Bloodybutt. And in 1995, these are
the events that led to Scientology becoming known as the Cult of the
bloody spurtin' hemorrhoid.

As far as I'm concerned, that's a label that still fits today. It will
continue to fit, until those responsible, Mike Rinder, David (*)
Miscavige, Gene Engram (er, I mean Ingram), Helena "Hi HO" ...

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Written by Martin Hunt / mart...@islandnet.com / March 23 1997

2.0 Tom Klemesrud and the "Blood Incident"

Who is Tom Klemesrud, who is "Miss Blood", and what is the "Blood
Incident"? In Tom's own words, taken from selected posts to ars:

Note: this section is not included because of Tom's importance on ars
or the investigation into Scientology, but rather to provide one
person's testimony about a Scientology harassment campaign. Many more
stories like Tom's are covered on the net and in the reference books
on Scientology, scary tales of the cult's KGB-like Office of Special
Affairs (OSA) and their bag of dirty tricks used to wage virtual war
on their critics, ex-members and the journalists who report on the
cult's activities alike; this is one such story:

I operate a hobby bulletin board system situated in my apartment in
Hollywood. This bulletin board system provides its subscribers with
access to the Internet through connection to Netcom Online Services, a
commercial access provider.

Prior to January 14, 1995, [the date of the blood incident] I was
contacted by attorneys for the Religious Technology Center
(hereinafter referred to as "RTC"), a Church of Scientology
organization. The attorneys for RTC informed me that a subscriber to
my system, Dennis Erlich, was allegedly violating RTC's copyrighted
materials by making postings of those materials to the Internet. RTC's
attorneys demanded action to block Mr. Erlich's access to the Internet
via my bulletin board system. I contacted RTC's attorneys and
requested that they provide me with copies of the copyrighted
materials so that I could compare it with what Mr. Erlich had posted
to the Internet. They refused to do so and I refused to take action
against Mr. Erlich.

On January 14, 1995, I was in contact with plaintiff [Linda Woolard,
aka "Miss Bloodybutt" herein for the first and only time in my life.

I met the plaintiff at a bar. Contrary to her assertions that I
approached her, she approached me. She identified herself as an agent
for the IRS. Part of our discussion concerned the bulletin board
system I operated and she expressed an interest in seeing the system.
Therefore, the plaintiff accompanied me to my apartment in North
Hollywood.

The bar was in Burbank on my way home. I have not been there for
years. I do not hang out there. I know the management there and is why
I chose to go there. You would think they had to have been following
me.

She--or someone else--had to have at least been following me from the
Burbank airport. The cab driver was the only one who knew where I
wanted to go. We had trouble finding the place too, driving back and
forth on the surrounding streets. They may have been in touch with the
airline, according to info I have.

"Miss Blood" got access to the internet site by claiming to be an IRS
CID agent, re-investigating the tax status of the CoS. I sat down a
light colored dinette chair for her to sit on. There were no stains on
that chair after she had sat on it--I have witnesses. So, she was not
bleeding-- "soaking," before she went into the bathroom.

She excused herself to the bathroom. She took some time, so I checked
on her to find much blood _smeared_ all over the bathroom: On the
floor, walls, shower doors, but little in the toilet. After I had
discovered her, she came out of the bathroom and said: "I am from the
Church of Scientology, and I think that you should do as Thomas Small
has instructed you to do--delete Dennis Erlich from the BBS."

I am just reporting what happened. The first thing she said when I
found her sitting on the toilet in the bathroom with about a pint of
blood on the floor in front of her was: "Tom, we have got to stop
having rough sex like this."

Of course, I was fully clothed, with my shoes on, being a gentleman,
because previous to this, she was an IRS Criminal Investigation
Division agent in my mind. She impersonated one, and dropped names
that are only know previously in confidential files at IRS CID, or to
a former Federal Grand Jury. Woolard was engaging in psychological
terrorism, in my opinion. Or, perhaps she thought by mentioning this
bizarre notion, I might believe it happened.

I was shocked, and went to call for help. She came out of the bathroom
and came to me saying this: "I am a representative of the Church of
Scientology, and I think you should do as attorney Thomas Small has
said you should do--disconnect Dennis Erlich from the Internet."

She immediately returned to the bathroom.

She told me she was sent on a mission to do what she was doing. I
believe she did not know I had called the police and had left the
apartment door wide open for them to come in. She was surprised to see
them. She left several things behind.

Then she came out undressed, saying: "I have been sent on a mission,
and I have been instructed to put some blood in your bed." She said
this courteously, with a smile. As she turned to lay down on the bed,
I saw the sausage of blood nestled in her crotch. She wiggled her butt
in the bed, got up, looked at the stain on the sheets to see if she
liked the stain, and returned to the bathroom. She did this with no
interference from me.

A phone call was placed to 911. However, the telephone call was placed
by me. When the police came to my apartment, I was in fact arrested on
the false allegations of the plaintiff that I threatened her. The
police never pursued these allegations.

She told the police she had a unique medical problem. This problem is
of the type that caused a few pints of blood to be smeared on bathroom
walls, in my shower, on carpets, my chairs, and bed. The medical
problem takes the form of causing all my linens, and new rolls of
toilet paper to be strewn on the floor and rubbed in the produce of
her problem.

In fact, the blood came from a bag, bladder, or balloon nestled in her
crotch. I saw it. If this is a medical problem, then she has an
intestine or artery running outside her body filled with cold almost
coagulated blood.

Subsequent to January 14, 1995, I have made postings to the Internet
to alert Internet users to what I consider to be a "set-up" to coerce
me to censor the free speech rights [of] users of the Internet. At no
time have I ever posted to the Internet or caused or to be posted to
the Internet by others the address or telephone number of plaintiff.

What plaintiff apparently forgot to advise this Court of is that there
is current litigation filed on February 8, 1995, in the United States
District Court for the Northern District of California entitled
Religious Technology Center, a California non-profit corporation; and
Bridge Publications, Inc., a California non-profit corporation v.
Netcom Online Communications Services, Inc., a Delaware corporation;
Dennis Erlich, an individual; and Tom Klemesrud, an individual, dba
Clearwood Data Services, Case Number C-9520091 RMW.

In that action, RTC attempts to hold me, and Netcom Online
Communications responsible for copyright violations of Scientology's
"sacred scriptures." On November 21, 1995, United States District
Court Judge Ronald M. Whyte made the following ruling:

"The Court finds that 'plaintiffs' (RTC) have not met their burden of
showing a likelihood of success on the merits as to either Netcom or
Klemesrud. The only viable theory of infringement is contributory
infringement, and there is little evidence that Netcom or Klemesrud
knew or should have known that Erlich was involved in copyright
infringement of plaintiff's works and was not entitled to a fair use
defense, especially as they did not receive notice of the alleged
infringement until after all but one of the postings was completed.
Further, their participation in the infringement was not substantial.
Accordingly, plaintiffs will not likely prevail on their claims."

Plaintiff's allegations that I have harassed her are totally without
merit. In fact, some allegations of harassment are false on their
face. For example, plaintiff's allegations on page 9 that I was
present at the Whiskey Bend Bar on San Fernando Road in Burbank on May
27, 1995 are false. In fact, on May 27, 1995, I was in Thompson, Iowa
for my father's funeral. (See Exhibits "3" and "4" attached hereto.) I
did not even return to California until May 28, 1995. It is therefore
impossible for plaintiff's absurd allegations that I caused her to
hemorrhage and have to be seen in an emergency room to be true. The
allegation that the plaintiff observed me on the evening of November
16, 1995 standing across the street and staring in the direction of
her apartment is also false. I went to work on November 16, 1995, and
my work hours were from 3:00 p.m. to at least 2:00 a.m. Therefore, it
is again impossible for plaintiff to have observed me.

I have never been to the plaintiff's place of residence in Burbank and
do not intend to go there. I have never threatened the plaintiff,
never assaulted the plaintiff, never stalked the plaintiff, never
harassed the plaintiff, nor do I have any intention to do so in the
future.

The temporary restraining order in place acts as a prior restraint of
speech on my part: "defendant shall not make any Internet postings
about the plaintiff or the 1/14/95 incident involving the plaintiff"
and is a violation of my First Amendment rights. The TRO also
potentially acts to block my attorneys in the RTC v. Netcom case from
performing legitimate reasonable investigation through licensed
investigators to adequately defend me in the unmeritorious lawsuit. It
is my opinion that the application for TRO re harassment is a second
"set up" by Ms. Woolard similar to the way I was set up on January 14,
1995.

Miss Blood's sister revealed to a newspaper reporter Miss Blood has no
medical problems.

And then there is RTC & Bridge Publications vs. Netcom, Dennis Erlich,
and Tom Klemesrud, dba Clearwood Data Services; Exhibit A: "Spread
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ptsc

        What would _you_ do?

        Personally, calling 911 and getting something to defend yourself
with seems reasonable and sane.

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                                                crawf...@iac.net

ptsc

        I misunderstood your statement.

        My apologies.

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                                                crawf...@iac.net

If Ms. Bloodybutt had not been just as drunk, Mr. Klemesrud would be
in prison right now for murder, and the cops would still be asking him
what he did with the body. If Ms. Bloodybutt had been sober, a mere
anonymous telephone call to the police saying "There's been a murder!"
and sending the police to Klemesrud's residence would probably have
followed the blood-spreading.

The questions are still many:

1) Was it human blood?

2) If it was human blood, where / who did it come from?

3) How much blood was it?

4) Since Scientology lawyers and the criminal Martin Engram were
involved in the attempted frame-up, Klemesrud could make at the very
least a tenuous civil lawsuit against them.

Robert Green Ingersoll

 Correct me if I'm wrong, anyone, including Tom.

Starshadow, KoX, SP4, Official Wiccan Chaplain ARSCC(wdne)

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I think that everyone who's ever protested against the cult's human rights
and civil rights violations can recognize that Tom's account of how the
crooks tried to "Fair Game" him is entirely in keeping with the Scientology
organization's history and contemporary activities.  No story no matter how
freakishly bizarre is out of bounds when the cult's motive is an attempt to
silence someone from spoeaking out about the cult's rights abuses.

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terrorism by the Scientology cult to the Domestic Terrorism
Task Force at norf...@fbi.gov   http://www.skeptictank.org/
For psychological assistance check: http://www.shrinktank.com/

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terrorism by the Scientology cult to the Domestic Terrorism
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For psychological assistance check: http://www.shrinktank.com/

Since she was apparenlt working out of Moxon's office, I would think that
her identity would be known to the crooks.

arnie lerma

I wonder too, had that happened, would the police have bothered to test
the blood in the bathroom against that woman's bloodtype? Was it even
real blood? Dog, hog, or otherwise?

That woman really slopped the op. Thank goodness for Tom's sake that
incompetence is a byproduct of scientology!
--
Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC
http://members.home.net/bwarr1/index.htm (this site is down right now.)
http://www.geocities.com/bwarr_2000/ mirror site

"Every week, every month, every year, every decade and now
every century, Scientology does weird and stupid things
to damage its own reputation."
                -Steve Zadarnowski

"Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
Scientology."
                -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"

The claim that "Linda Woolard" or whatever her name really was had nothing to
do with Scientology causes very serious questions to arise.  If she had nothing
to do with Scientology, then why did she immediately call Scientology private
investigator and former (?) pimp Eugene Martin Ingram right after the frame-up
incident?  Why then did she immediately give a statement to Scientology lawyer
Don Wager?  Why was information concerning her posted through anon.penet.fi and
why did Scientology lawyers immediately claim to Finnish police that this was
confidential information stolen from their internal computer network?  

This leads to the obvious conclusion that "Linda Woolard" was a Scientology
agent, as she claimed to Tom Klemesrud in the first place.

Here are Kaj Malmberg's posts on the subject--note that Kaj's identity as a
Finnish police officer was independently verified at the time, making him, I
believe, the only law enforcement officer ever to post to
alt.religion.scientology in an official capacity.

He was, of course, immediately accused of being a Scientologist ;-)

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From kaj.malmb...@mallu.pp.fi Sat Jul 08 21:14:10 1995
From: kaj.malmb...@mallu.pp.fi (Kaj Malmberg)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Helsinki police contact info
Date: 8 Jul 1995 19:14:10 GMT
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I am the police officer in Finland who conducted the raid on the Anon
Server in Helsinki.
Any questions about why and what I did can be sent to me. I will answer
the parts than are not classified.

Kaj Malmberg
det.sgt.
Helsinki Police

kaj.malmb...@helsinki.poliisi.mailnet.fi

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From kaj.malmb...@mallu.pp.fi Tue Jul 11 19:28:25 1995
From: kaj.malmb...@mallu.pp.fi (Kaj Malmberg)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Finnish Police Contact info and more..
Date: 11 Jul 1995 17:28:25 GMT
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I am not interested in any cults, they do not fitt my way of seeing the
world. I do not want any scientology material,

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They came to my office in Helsinki and told me that someone had penetrated
in to a computer in Los Angeles and taken secret information form it. The
computer was the property of the Church of Scientology.

As there was an investigation going on in the United States and it the crime
had been commited from there we decided to end our investigation. I wrote a
letter ot our Interpol and asked them to forward our findings to the police
in Los Angeles.

I gave the results of our investigation to the person who had reported the
crime, the finnish lawyer.

Kaj Malmberg
Helsinki Police

--------------------

I certainly appreciate Detective Malmberg coming forward with this
information.  It seems from these reports that Interpol was involved
only after the fact.  Since Julf is there, and rather interested in
the case, perhaps he could pick up the report?  I would be happy to
forward the cost to Julf, plus something for his time translating and
posting to this group.

It would also be of great interest to know the name of the investigator
CoS sent to Finland, and just exactly who got the report routed through
Interpol after the name was obtained.  Keith Henson

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From kaj.malmb...@mallu.pp.fi Sun Jul 09 12:51:58 1995
From: kaj.malmb...@mallu.pp.fi (Kaj Malmberg)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Finnish Police Contact info and more..
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I work at the Helsinki Police Criminal Investigating Departement in
Helsinki. I investigate economic crimes and crimes that involves the use
of a computers.
Helsinki Police Department is the local police.

Interpol is not a policeorganization. Most of the countries in the world
have joined Interpol and therefore assign a part of its organization to
be called Interpol. Interpol does not investigate crimes nore excecute
any police duties. It only sends mail from one country to another and
keep registers.
If I want to send a letter to a law enforcement agency in another
country, I send it to our local Interpol, that sends it to the other
country and to its Interpol agency, that in turn sends it ot the local
police.
Interpol never has an active part in investigating crimes.

This Scientology case started on day when a lawyer from a very respected
law office contacted us and said he was representing the Church of
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Scientology's OSA department had one or two of it's "agents" work on a
DA package including the incident even before Ms. Bloodybutt tried to
frame Tom Klemesrud. That DA package was to included the claim that
Tom Klemesrud was being questioned by the police about murdering a
woman. (An anonymous telephone call to the police by a woman screaming
for help was probably planned, but the woman was too drunk to perform
the call or remember to call.) The plan was to make Tom Klemesrud
appear that he had murdered someone and then successfully hide /
dispose of the body, and to have him incarcerated for a crime that had
not even been committed.

Only Scientology Inc.'s plan failed: their OSA operative was too drunk
to follow the plan, and Tom Klemesrud managed to thwart the plan by
yelling for help himself (and who wouldn't, when a strange woman comes
into one's residence and starts splattering blood on the walls?!).

Since Scientology's plan was to make a murder appear to have taken
place and also have the body missing, Ms. Bloodybutt had to flee
before the police arrived. She could not withstand a medical
investigation that showed she was not injured. She didn't know that
the police had already been called.

DEFENDANT'S CALL

The 911 tape of the Defendant's phone call to LAPD begins at 21:43
hours.  The tape goes as follows:

   LAPD: "911 emergency operator 434."

   DEFENDANT: "Yea, I have, ah, I'm a , I'm a anti-member of the
   Church of Scientology and I have a Scientology member in my
   apartment building who bleed all over my bathroom and she's
   alive and she's fine.

   LAPD: "You need the paramedics?

   DEFENDANT: "No, not at all.  No we don't even need the
   police."

   LAPD: "Okay.  What's the problem then sir?"

   DEFENDANT: "Ah, we have a scientologist going after an
   anti-Scientologist and if you don't understand that you can
   call the FBI."

   LAPD: "But why do you need the police?  Why are you calling
   911?"

   DEFENDANT: "Because the FBI told me to call."

   LAPD: "Who called - told you to call?"

   DEFENDANT: "Three, ah, the FBI.  You understand their number -
   6565?"

   LAPD: "Well, why did they tell you to call?"

   DEFENDANT: "Because you have...then she said why did they tell
   me to call.  I'm sitting here with a rabid Scientologist
   infiltrating my apartment and the FBI told me to call and I'm
   calling.  Okay?  And this isn't funny.  It's not funny.  Okay?

   LAPD: "I'm not laughing."

   DEFENDANT: "I want you to call the FBI and find this out real
   quick.  Okay?  And she's got a lot of blood in my bathroom
   floor, you know, hemorrhaging from woman-female things and
   she's going to blame that on me.  Okay?"

   LAPD: "So you want me to call the FBI?"

   DEFENDANT: "Absolutely - yes."

   LAPD: "Why don't you call the FBI?"

   DEFENDANT: "I already did."

   LAPD: "But why do you want me to call?"

   DEFENDANT: "So you know the story.  They told me to call you.

   LAPD: "I don't see how I can help you sir.  Do you need the
   paramedics?  Yes or no?"

   DEFENDANT: "No, I need the FBI.  There's a federal crime -
   there's been a federal crime committed here.  Okay, as a
   matter of fact I'm going to stay on the...as a matter of fact
   I'm reporting a federal crime and it is money laundering.
   Miss, the crime is money laundering."

   LAPD: "Who's doing that?"

   DEFENDANT: "The lady in my apartment right now.  You call him
   and I'm going to stay on the line you asshole!  So call him
   right now!"

   LAPD: "One moment sir.  I'm going to put you on hold."

   (LAPD operator is talking to someone at her location: "Excuse
   me.  Excuse me.  Could you look up the special loop for 5143
   Bakman?  What does that mean?  What does that tell me?  I have
   this address on the line and he's talking about the FBI and it
   sounds like a 5150." [Note: 5150 is police jargon for Welfare
   and Institution Code Section 5150 which deals with mentally
   disturbed individuals.] "Okay.  Okay.  Thank you.")

   DEFENDANT: "Hello sir, is this the FBI?"

   LAPD: "No it isn't.  What I'm going to do is transfer you to
   my supervisor..."

   DEFENDANT: "And, and she's squirreling, meaning, meaning that
   ah, she, she doesn't go along with, with, with the church's
   orders."

   LAPD: "Stay on the line on moment sir.  I'm going to transfer
   you to my supervisor.

   BUSY SIGNAL.........(LAPD operator unsuccessful in
   transferring call to her supervisor."

   The call ends at 21:49 hours.

PLAINTIFF'S CALL

The 911 call to the Fire Department placed by the Plaintiff begins at
22:45 hours.  It goes as follows:

   LAFD: "911 emergency 585."

   PLAINTIFF: "Yes.  A man has gone out of his mind and I have no
   clue what to do with him."

   LAFD: "Who is this man, ma'am?

   DEFENDANT: "The guy who owns the telephone who has called the
   FBI already.  This is the Church of Scientology."

   LAFD: "Sir, sir, would you put the lady on the phone."

   DEFENDANT: "Yes I will.  He wants to talk to you."

   LAFD: "Okay, ma'am?"

   DEFENDANT: "This is the Church of Scientology who is trying to
   frame me."

   LAFD: "Sir - sir..."

   DEFENDANT: "Here is the lady..."

   LAFD: "Sir, sir, get off the phone sir!"

   DEFENDANT: "The FB......here is the lady."

   PLAINTIFF: "Hello."

   LAFD: "Okay ma'am, what is this man doing to you?  This man
   that's right there.  The one I just talked to.

   PLAINTIFF: "The one that put a 12 gauge to your head.  The one
   that says you can't go to the bathroom because you're
   hemorrhaging."

   LAFD: "Stay on the line.  Let me transfer you to the police
   operator so they can switch you to the police.

   PLAINTIFF: "Thank you."

   LAPD: Los Angeles Police Department..."

   PLAINTIFF: "I need some kind of help here."

   LAPD: "What's the problem?"

   PLAINTIFF: "This man's paranoid.  I don't know.  He won't
   allow me to go to the bathroom.

   LAPD: "Who are you talking about?"

   PLAINTIFF: "I'm hemorrhaging right now.......12 gauge and
   moved it up and said, 'don't worry about shooting me if you
   want to'....I think perhaps you ought to come over.....I don't
   know what to do about this situation.  I really don't know
   what to do.

   LAPD: "What is the address?"

   PLAINTIFF: "I'm sorry, I have no clue right now...I'm
   hemorrhaging.

   LAPD: "You don't live there?"

   PLAINTIFF: "No I don't."

   LAPD: "How did you get there?  Hold on for the paramedics."

   DEFENDANT: "Yes, miss?

   LAPD: "Yes."

   DEFENDANT: "Yea you're going to have to....."

   LAFD: "Paramedics 405.  May I help you?"

   (Note: LAPD and LAFD are both on the line)

   LAPD: "What did you say?"

   DEFENDANT: "You're going to get a better, ah...you're going to
   get a better ah...shit.  This is the Church of Scientology
   trying to set up somebody who is a critic...that's what this
   is...okay?"

   LAFD: "He's a what?"

   DEFENDANT: "This is the Church of Scientology trying to set up
   a critic."

   LAPD to LAFD: "The lady said she was hemorrhaging so I
   transferred to you...I don't know what..."

   DEFENDANT: "I don't think she's hemorrhaging, but, you know,
   if she's hemorrhaging she did it herself.  See I don't know
   women does that."

   LAPD: "What's wrong with you?"

   DEFENDANT: "Huh?"

   LAPD: "What's wrong with you?"

   DEFENDANT: "I've had...I've had a few drinks...that's all
   that's wrong with me.

   LAPD: "Is it your girlfriend?"

   DEFENDANT: No.  Absolutely not.  She met me at the bar.
   You've got to call the FBI.  The FBI understands.  Okay?

   LAFD: "You're calling from your own apartment?"

   DEFENDANT: "Yea, and I have friends at the FBI and they know
   my name.  You know my name."

   LAFD: "I thought you said this was the Church of Scientology."

   DEFENDANT: "Absolutely...yea...this...yes it is and she has
   the ability to train my shotgun on me and shoot me but she
   won't do that."

   LAFD: "Hold on a second...hold on a second..."

   DEFENDANT: "If the police come there's no threatening
   situation..."

   LAFD: "Hold on one second please.  Okay PD are you going to
   handle?"

   LAPD: "Yea, we got it.  Bye."

   The call ended at 22:49 hours.

ROFL !!!!   :-))))

Bid

Damn shame that the woman in question had no contact with Scientology until
after the incident when the postings that appeared in this newsgroup prompted
CofS to find her.

After Klemesrud learned that Woolard was in fact not involved with the C of S
prior to the incident, he failed to do set the record straight lest he look the
fool that he was.  

Ask Klemesrud to publicly state on this newsgroup, that Woolard conspired with
the C of S in a plot to set him up. He won't do it. It seems everyone has
conveniently forgotten the legal proceedings involving Tom and Woolard.

There's lots of other ammo that doesn't have this kind of misfire potential.
Tom screwed up. It's time he did the honorable thing and put this one to rest
once and for all.

The injustice of once again dragging Woolard's name through the mud prompted me
to delurk.

Bandino
(knows all, sees all, tells little)

-8.0 on the Hubbardian tone-scale..

Bwahahahah..

Sten-Arne Zerpe
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Solna
Sweden.

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Here's how I think Hubbard did his "research." He downed a bottle of
gin, popped a few pills, passed out and woke up hours later, clutching
the empty bottle and screaming "The psychs are coming, the psychs are
coming, they're crawling all over me. Get 'em off, get 'em off." And,
another Scientology rundown was thus created, the False Purpose rundown.

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Bid

The larger context could be explained later in a court of law.  Unfortunately
Klemesrud's liability carrier was more interested in settling everything and
therefore there was no brutal, far-reaching discovery on what actually
occurred.

I do hear, however, that a Certain Lawyer involved in that case may end up
discussing these matters at some point in the near future ;-)

ptsc