Following is my report on the recent week in Hamburg that I just made on enturbulation,org. FYI
Sorry for the upcoming wall of text but here is more of what happened this past week in Hamburg from my own perspective as one of the participants:
I arrived back home from Germany yesterday (Sept 7) and have managed to read some of the reports of the events in Hamburg last week.
At the risk of repeating things in parts of this report, I thought I would give my own perspective of what happened as well as some other facts that I have not seen written yet.
First of all some nice things have been said about Ursula Caberta in some other reports. These are well deserved. I could go on and on about what a good person she is but instead will provide here a link to a posting I did about her last year which summarized what happened when I saw her last September:
More than any single person, Ursula was responsible for pulling off this event.
I left for Germany on September 2 flying from Manchester, NH to Newark, NJ where I changed planes and got on a flight to Hamburg. I had a fairly long layover in Newark. While I was waiting for my plane to Hamburg in Newark a man kept coming up to me for small talk. He seemed friendly enough but I could tell he had something to do with organized scientology just by how he acted. He went away a few times but just kept coming back to me to chat. Finally he handed me a paper and said that I seemed like a nice guy and that someone asked him to give me this paper.
I laughed and asked him who that might be that asked him to do this. He said “just someone” and then he hurried away. What it was was a photocopy of a two page report from “Freedom Magazine” in English about the upcoming Hamburg event which contained OSA’s version of information about Ursula, Anonymous, Christian Market, Jason, Marc, Graham and myself.
I believe that OSA was trying to scare me or something like that. Obviously they knew my flight schedule that was between the government of Hamburg and myself. They also were able to get a private eye through security at the airport to give me the papers when no one but ticketed passengers were supposed to be able to be where I was. Woooooo I was SO scared. lol
I just laughed as I read while waiting for my plane as the lies were so obvious and the entire concept of the “article” was so insane (the four of us speakers being Anonymous and how Anonymous had infiltrated the German government, yak, yak, yak with the typical organized scientology paranoia and lies).
I laughed at how they said they had somehow “unmasked” us four and then showed pictures of all of us at earlier Anon raids unmasked and with different masked Anons. That was their big investigative report? LOL In the case the picture of me with arms around two Anons in Boston it was a picture some Anon in Boston was kind enough to take with my camera when I asked him to do so. I sent it to Dawn Olson at Glosslips to post on her site just before she did a radio show with me as a guest. So it was meant for the general public. Yet Freedom Magazine had somehow “uncovered” it LOL
Anyway, when we all got to Hamburg on Sept 3 I found out that Graham, Jason and Marc also got flyers from our friends in OSA while they were at the airport in Los Angeles. The difference with theirs is that their copies were in German and they were given them in a non secure area.
Although there were a couple of friendly PIs at our hotel there were also German police there to protect us if needed. We were pretty much constantly under some form of escort whether it be Jason and Marc in police cars or others of us in cars with people who worked with Ursula.
We had to change our hotel rooms after the first night as OSA was finding out what rooms we were in using some wacko “covert op” of being Federal Express calling to try to deliver something to our rooms (as if Fed Ex even goes to individual rooms at hotels). Anyway they were pathetic in trying to stop us. The police there I believe scared them away from doing much more.
As we all were chatting on the evening of Sept 3 more information had come in about the “first string” of Moxen et al that had arrived to “handle us” and that they had filed a legal action with a German court to stop the event that was to happen on Sept 4. Another action was filed to at least get their speakers included at the event should the first action not be successful.
While we chatted over drinks at the hotel on the evening before the event, I gave my opinions on what OSA would try and why this would be historic. I mean here we were under guard having drinks the night before and as we chatted so much else around was taking form. This included Anonymous arriving from around Europe and possibly elsewhere getting ready for their huge part in all this. It included Miscavige sending his “first string” of lawyers and PR people to handle us. It included the press, TV and writers arriving in numbers. And it included governmental representatives arriving from a number of countries as well as private individuals and cult awareness groups from several countries arriving.
And all this was converging on “entheta town” (as Ursula proudly calls Hamburg) as we spoke.
The only part where I was disappointed was that all four of us speakers wanted to go out and join Anonymous between Sept 4 and Sept 6 but were asked not to do so by German government reps in charge of our security. There were not concerned with the Anons who they welcomed. They were concerned for our safety due to fears of what OSA might do. I still wanted to go out with the Anons but respected our hosts’ repeated requests not to do so.
From the postings I saw, I believe it has already been made clear that in addition to a variety of actions carried out by Anonymous, that there were two “events” involving the four of us speakers. Those two events that were pretty much already covered were the group talks to press, TV and writers in the morning of Sept 4 as well as the big event itself early that evening.
I will not cover them here as you all have heard it already and this posting is going to be too long anyway.
What is not generally known are that those two events were not even close to the only things going on with Ursula’s folks and the speakers. A few of the other things going on there between Sept 4 and Sept 6 included:
(i) there were many individual meetings between a speaker and either a government rep, a writer, a reporter or a TV person. Much, much more will be coming out of all this over the next weeks and months. Obviously I will not go into detail here but stay tuned for much more to come.
Of note was that on Sept 3 a new book was released in Germany about Scientology written by Frank Nordhausen and Liane Billerbeck called “Scientology Wie der Sektenkonzern die Welt erobern will”. I will leave it to our German friends to translate this title. The front cover has a big picture of the Berlin “model org” building on it at night. A picture of the book and some information on it can be found in German at: http://www.anti-scientology.net/
Frank is the writer that I talked about interviewing me in Berlin last September (in my earlier linked report about visiting Ursula in Sept 07). I got a copy of the book. Although my name is listed briefly in several places in the book, I have no idea what it says so cannot report on that. Hopefully it’s interesting and of some value.
(ii) on Saturday, Sept 6 there were additional meetings with others that involved governmental reps, TV and press. Again watch for much more to come out shortly. BTW, there are other strings about a new German film just being released in schools about organized scientology. It included a short preview re chats with a number of people including Tory and Mike P. Well that will be in full swing in schools shortly as well as a version released on German TV very shortly. I am not telling anything here not already known by our OSA friends.
(iii) lastly, there was a very important long meeting with concerned governmental reps from a number of countries on Sept 5. I cannot go into details on this for obvious reasons but I can say that there is much to come from various governments in the direction of protecting their people from the lies, abuses, fraud and other crimes coming from organized scientology. This IMHO was the most important of all the meetings but again is the one that will be mentioned the least. Marc H (BFG) has already posted how we met with government reps from different countries and how things will be happening with them. I’ll just add that I agree with that.
As I sit and look back at the last week in Hamburg, I truly do see the beginnings of major things soon to happen with respect to fighting the lies, abuses and crimes of David Miscavige and organized scientology.
On the one side I see organized scientology come out with one lie after the other. Frankly I am amazed that they even admitted that I was in their corporate department and only lied by saying that I assisted attorneys and accountants to make my job somehow seem less important (I actually ran them for Miscavige, not assisted them). It’s also funny to see other lies about lots of little things even things like I live at my mother’s when the fact is I have her live with me rent free to help take care of her as she needs the help and as I had promised my father I would do same when he was on his deathbed years ago. Leave it to organized scientology to try to spin such a family matter with lies.
God, almost everything they say is a lie as they try to hide the horrible things they do and as they try to hurt anyone who will stand up to them,
One of the things that most choked me up both at the main Sept 4 event as well as in numerous interviews later had to do with Anonymous and ex scientologists.
> Following is my report on the recent week in Hamburg that I just made > on enturbulation,org. FYI
> Sorry for the upcoming wall of text but here is more of what happened > this past week in Hamburg from my own perspective as one of the > participants:
> I arrived back home from Germany yesterday (Sept 7) and have managed > to read some of the reports of the events in Hamburg last week.
> At the risk of repeating things in parts of this report, I thought I > would give my own perspective of what happened as well as some other > facts that I have not seen written yet.
> First of all some nice things have been said about Ursula Caberta in > some other reports. These are well deserved. I could go on and on > about what a good person she is but instead will provide here a link > to a posting I did about her last year which summarized what happened > when I saw her last September:
> More than any single person, Ursula was responsible for pulling off > this event.
> I left for Germany on September 2 flying from Manchester, NH to > Newark, NJ where I changed planes and got on a flight to Hamburg. I > had a fairly long layover in Newark. While I was waiting for my plane > to Hamburg in Newark a man kept coming up to me for small talk. He > seemed friendly enough but I could tell he had something to do with > organized scientology just by how he acted. He went away a few times > but just kept coming back to me to chat. Finally he handed me a paper > and said that I seemed like a nice guy and that someone asked him to > give me this paper.
> I laughed and asked him who that might be that asked him to do this. > He said “just someone” and then he hurried away. What it was was a > photocopy of a two page report from “Freedom Magazine” in English > about the upcoming Hamburg event which contained OSA’s version of > information about Ursula, Anonymous, Christian Market, Jason, Marc, > Graham and myself.
> I believe that OSA was trying to scare me or something like that. > Obviously they knew my flight schedule that was between the government > of Hamburg and myself. They also were able to get a private eye > through security at the airport to give me the papers when no one but > ticketed passengers were supposed to be able to be where I was. > Woooooo I was SO scared. lol
> I just laughed as I read while waiting for my plane as the lies were > so obvious and the entire concept of the “article” was so insane (the > four of us speakers being Anonymous and how Anonymous had infiltrated > the German government, yak, yak, yak with the typical organized > scientology paranoia and lies).
> I laughed at how they said they had somehow “unmasked” us four and > then showed pictures of all of us at earlier Anon raids unmasked and > with different masked Anons. That was their big investigative report? > LOL In the case the picture of me with arms around two Anons in Boston > it was a picture some Anon in Boston was kind enough to take with my > camera when I asked him to do so. I sent it to Dawn Olson at Glosslips > to post on her site just before she did a radio show with me as a > guest. So it was meant for the general public. Yet Freedom Magazine > had somehow “uncovered” it LOL
> Anyway, when we all got to Hamburg on Sept 3 I found out that Graham, > Jason and Marc also got flyers from our friends in OSA while they were > at the airport in Los Angeles. The difference with theirs is that > their copies were in German and they were given them in a non secure > area.
> Although there were a couple of friendly PIs at our hotel there were > also German police there to protect us if needed. We were pretty much > constantly under some form of escort whether it be Jason and Marc in > police cars or others of us in cars with people who worked with > Ursula.
> We had to change our hotel rooms after the first night as OSA was > finding out what rooms we were in using some wacko “covert op” of > being Federal Express calling to try to deliver something to our rooms > (as if Fed Ex even goes to individual rooms at hotels). Anyway they > were pathetic in trying to stop us. The police there I believe scared > them away from doing much more.
> As we all were chatting on the evening of Sept 3 more information had > come in about the “first string” of Moxen et al that had arrived to > “handle us” and that they had filed a legal action with a German court > to stop the event that was to happen on Sept 4. Another action was > filed to at least get their speakers included at the event should the > first action not be successful.
> While we chatted over drinks at the hotel on the evening before the > event, I gave my opinions on what OSA would try and why this would be > historic. I mean here we were under guard having drinks the night > before and as we chatted so much else around was taking form. This > included Anonymous arriving from around Europe and possibly elsewhere > getting ready for their huge part in all this. It included Miscavige > sending his “first string” of lawyers and PR people to handle us. It > included the press, TV and writers arriving in numbers. And it > included governmental representatives arriving from a number of > countries as well as private individuals and cult awareness groups > from several countries arriving.
> And all this was converging on “entheta town” (as Ursula proudly calls > Hamburg) as we spoke.
> The only part where I was disappointed was that all four of us > speakers wanted to go out and join Anonymous between Sept 4 and Sept 6 > but were asked not to do so by German government reps in charge of our > security. There were not concerned with the Anons who they welcomed. > They were concerned for our safety due to fears of what OSA might do. > I still wanted to go out with the Anons but respected our hosts’ > repeated requests not to do so.
> From the postings I saw, I believe it has already been made clear that > in addition to a variety of actions carried out by Anonymous, that > there were two “events” involving the four of us speakers. Those two > events that were pretty much already covered were the group talks to > press, TV and writers in the morning of Sept 4 as well as the big > event itself early that evening.
> I will not cover them here as you all have heard it already and this > posting is going to be too long anyway.
> What is not generally known are that those two events were not even > close to the only things going on with Ursula’s folks and the > speakers. A few of the other things going on there between Sept 4 and > Sept 6 included:
> (i) there were many individual meetings between a speaker and either a > government rep, a writer, a reporter or a TV person. Much, much more > will be coming out of all this over the next weeks and months. > Obviously I will not go into detail here but stay tuned for much more > to come.
> Of note was that on Sept 3 a new book was released in Germany about > Scientology written by Frank Nordhausen and Liane Billerbeck called > “Scientology Wie der Sektenkonzern die Welt erobern will”. I will > leave it to our German friends to translate this title. The front > cover has a big picture of the Berlin “model org” building on it at > night. A picture of the book and some information on it can be found > in German at:http://www.anti-scientology.net/
> Frank is the writer that I talked about interviewing me in Berlin last > September (in my earlier linked report about visiting Ursula in Sept > 07). I got a copy of the book. Although my name is listed briefly in > several places in the book, I have no idea what it says so cannot > report on that. Hopefully it’s interesting and of some value.
> (ii) on Saturday, Sept 6 there were additional meetings with others > that involved governmental reps, TV and press. Again watch for much > more to come out shortly. BTW, there are other strings about a new > German film just being released in schools about organized > scientology. It included a short preview re chats with a number of > people including Tory and Mike P. Well that will be in full swing in > schools shortly as well as a version released on German TV very > shortly. I am not telling anything here not already known by our OSA > friends.
> (iii) lastly, there was a very important long meeting with concerned > governmental reps from a number of countries on Sept 5. I cannot go > into details on this for obvious reasons but I can say that there is > much to come from various governments in the direction of protecting > their people from the lies, abuses, fraud and other crimes coming from > organized scientology. This IMHO was the most important of all the > meetings but again is the one that will be mentioned the least. Marc H > (BFG) has already posted how we met with government reps from > different countries and how things will be happening with them. I’ll > just add that I agree with that.
> As I sit and look back at the last week in Hamburg, I truly do see the > beginnings of major things soon to happen with respect to fighting the > lies, abuses and crimes of David Miscavige and organized scientology.
> On the one side I see organized scientology come out with one lie > after the other. Frankly I am amazed that they even admitted that I > was in their corporate department and only lied by saying that I > assisted attorneys and accountants to make my job somehow seem less > important (I actually ran them for Miscavige, not assisted them). It’s > also funny to see other lies about lots of little things even things > like I live at my mother’s when the fact is I have her live with me > rent free to help take care of her as she needs the help and as I had > promised my father I would do same when he was on his deathbed years
On Sep 8, 12:22 pm, SME <larrybren12...@aol.com> wrote:
> Following is my report on the recent week in Hamburg that I just made > on enturbulation,org. FYI > God, almost everything they say is a lie as they try to hide the > horrible things they do and as they try to hurt anyone who will stand > up to them,
well said and webbed as the lead article at Lermanet.com
SME wrote: > Following is my report on the recent week in Hamburg that I just made > on enturbulation,org. FYI
> Sorry for the upcoming wall of text but here is more of what happened > this past week in Hamburg from my own perspective as one of the > participants:
> I arrived back home from Germany yesterday (Sept 7) and have managed > to read some of the reports of the events in Hamburg last week.
> At the risk of repeating things in parts of this report, I thought I > would give my own perspective of what happened as well as some other > facts that I have not seen written yet.
> First of all some nice things have been said about Ursula Caberta in > some other reports. These are well deserved. I could go on and on > about what a good person she is but instead will provide here a link > to a posting I did about her last year which summarized what happened > when I saw her last September:
> More than any single person, Ursula was responsible for pulling off > this event.
> I left for Germany on September 2 flying from Manchester, NH to > Newark, NJ where I changed planes and got on a flight to Hamburg. I > had a fairly long layover in Newark. While I was waiting for my plane > to Hamburg in Newark a man kept coming up to me for small talk. He > seemed friendly enough but I could tell he had something to do with > organized scientology just by how he acted. He went away a few times > but just kept coming back to me to chat. Finally he handed me a paper > and said that I seemed like a nice guy and that someone asked him to > give me this paper.
> I laughed and asked him who that might be that asked him to do this. > He said “just someone” and then he hurried away. What it was was a > photocopy of a two page report from “Freedom Magazine” in English > about the upcoming Hamburg event which contained OSA’s version of > information about Ursula, Anonymous, Christian Market, Jason, Marc, > Graham and myself.
> I believe that OSA was trying to scare me or something like that. > Obviously they knew my flight schedule that was between the government > of Hamburg and myself. They also were able to get a private eye > through security at the airport to give me the papers when no one but > ticketed passengers were supposed to be able to be where I was. > Woooooo I was SO scared. lol
> I just laughed as I read while waiting for my plane as the lies were > so obvious and the entire concept of the “article” was so insane (the > four of us speakers being Anonymous and how Anonymous had infiltrated > the German government, yak, yak, yak with the typical organized > scientology paranoia and lies).
> I laughed at how they said they had somehow “unmasked” us four and > then showed pictures of all of us at earlier Anon raids unmasked and > with different masked Anons. That was their big investigative report? > LOL In the case the picture of me with arms around two Anons in Boston > it was a picture some Anon in Boston was kind enough to take with my > camera when I asked him to do so. I sent it to Dawn Olson at Glosslips > to post on her site just before she did a radio show with me as a > guest. So it was meant for the general public. Yet Freedom Magazine > had somehow “uncovered” it LOL
> Anyway, when we all got to Hamburg on Sept 3 I found out that Graham, > Jason and Marc also got flyers from our friends in OSA while they were > at the airport in Los Angeles. The difference with theirs is that > their copies were in German and they were given them in a non secure > area.
> Although there were a couple of friendly PIs at our hotel there were > also German police there to protect us if needed. We were pretty much > constantly under some form of escort whether it be Jason and Marc in > police cars or others of us in cars with people who worked with > Ursula.
> We had to change our hotel rooms after the first night as OSA was > finding out what rooms we were in using some wacko “covert op” of > being Federal Express calling to try to deliver something to our rooms > (as if Fed Ex even goes to individual rooms at hotels). Anyway they > were pathetic in trying to stop us. The police there I believe scared > them away from doing much more.
> As we all were chatting on the evening of Sept 3 more information had > come in about the “first string” of Moxen et al that had arrived to > “handle us” and that they had filed a legal action with a German court > to stop the event that was to happen on Sept 4. Another action was > filed to at least get their speakers included at the event should the > first action not be successful.
> While we chatted over drinks at the hotel on the evening before the > event, I gave my opinions on what OSA would try and why this would be > historic. I mean here we were under guard having drinks the night > before and as we chatted so much else around was taking form. This > included Anonymous arriving from around Europe and possibly elsewhere > getting ready for their huge part in all this. It included Miscavige > sending his “first string” of lawyers and PR people to handle us. It > included the press, TV and writers arriving in numbers. And it > included governmental representatives arriving from a number of > countries as well as private individuals and cult awareness groups > from several countries arriving.
> And all this was converging on “entheta town” (as Ursula proudly calls > Hamburg) as we spoke.
> The only part where I was disappointed was that all four of us > speakers wanted to go out and join Anonymous between Sept 4 and Sept 6 > but were asked not to do so by German government reps in charge of our > security. There were not concerned with the Anons who they welcomed. > They were concerned for our safety due to fears of what OSA might do. > I still wanted to go out with the Anons but respected our hosts’ > repeated requests not to do so.
> From the postings I saw, I believe it has already been made clear that > in addition to a variety of actions carried out by Anonymous, that > there were two “events” involving the four of us speakers. Those two > events that were pretty much already covered were the group talks to > press, TV and writers in the morning of Sept 4 as well as the big > event itself early that evening.
> I will not cover them here as you all have heard it already and this > posting is going to be too long anyway.
> What is not generally known are that those two events were not even > close to the only things going on with Ursula’s folks and the > speakers. A few of the other things going on there between Sept 4 and > Sept 6 included:
> (i) there were many individual meetings between a speaker and either a > government rep, a writer, a reporter or a TV person. Much, much more > will be coming out of all this over the next weeks and months. > Obviously I will not go into detail here but stay tuned for much more > to come.
> Of note was that on Sept 3 a new book was released in Germany about > Scientology written by Frank Nordhausen and Liane Billerbeck called > “Scientology Wie der Sektenkonzern die Welt erobern will”. I will > leave it to our German friends to translate this title. The front > cover has a big picture of the Berlin “model org” building on it at > night. A picture of the book and some information on it can be found > in German at: http://www.anti-scientology.net/
> Frank is the writer that I talked about interviewing me in Berlin last > September (in my earlier linked report about visiting Ursula in Sept > 07). I got a copy of the book. Although my name is listed briefly in > several places in the book, I have no idea what it says so cannot > report on that. Hopefully it’s interesting and of some value.
> (ii) on Saturday, Sept 6 there were additional meetings with others > that involved governmental reps, TV and press. Again watch for much > more to come out shortly. BTW, there are other strings about a new > German film just being released in schools about organized > scientology. It included a short preview re chats with a number of > people including Tory and Mike P. Well that will be in full swing in > schools shortly as well as a version released on German TV very > shortly. I am not telling anything here not already known by our OSA > friends.
> (iii) lastly, there was a very important long meeting with concerned > governmental reps from a number of countries on Sept 5. I cannot go > into details on this for obvious reasons but I can say that there is > much to come from various governments in the direction of protecting > their people from the lies, abuses, fraud and other crimes coming from > organized scientology. This IMHO was the most important of all the > meetings but again is the one that will be mentioned the least. Marc H > (BFG) has already posted how we met with government reps from > different countries and how things will be happening with them. I’ll > just add that I agree with that.
> As I sit and look back at the last week in Hamburg, I truly do see the > beginnings of major things soon to happen with respect to fighting the > lies, abuses and crimes of David Miscavige and organized scientology.
> On the one side I see organized scientology come out with one lie > after the other. Frankly I am amazed that they even admitted that I > was in their corporate department and only lied by saying that I > assisted attorneys and accountants to make my job somehow seem less > important (I actually ran them for Miscavige, not assisted them). It’s > also funny to see other lies about lots of little things even things > like I live at my mother’s when the fact is I have her live with me > rent free to help take care of her as she needs the help and as I had > promised my father I would do same when he was on his deathbed years > ago. Leave it
Please excuse the top posting. I just want to thank you, Larry, for your report, and for going to Germany, and for speaking out and standing up against the CoS. It's good to know there there were people there who treated you and Graham and Marc and Jason with respect and took you seriously and made sure you were safe.
Beth
On Sep 8, 12:22 pm, SME <larrybren12...@aol.com> wrote:
> Following is my report on the recent week in Hamburg that I just made > on enturbulation,org. FYI
> Sorry for the upcoming wall of text but here is more of what happened > this past week in Hamburg from my own perspective as one of the > participants:
> I arrived back home from Germany yesterday (Sept 7) and have managed > to read some of the reports of the events in Hamburg last week.
> At the risk of repeating things in parts of this report, I thought I > would give my own perspective of what happened as well as some other > facts that I have not seen written yet.
> First of all some nice things have been said about Ursula Caberta in > some other reports. These are well deserved. I could go on and on > about what a good person she is but instead will provide here a link > to a posting I did about her last year which summarized what happened > when I saw her last September:
> More than any single person, Ursula was responsible for pulling off > this event.
> I left for Germany on September 2 flying from Manchester, NH to > Newark, NJ where I changed planes and got on a flight to Hamburg. I > had a fairly long layover in Newark. While I was waiting for my plane > to Hamburg in Newark a man kept coming up to me for small talk. He > seemed friendly enough but I could tell he had something to do with > organized scientology just by how he acted. He went away a few times > but just kept coming back to me to chat. Finally he handed me a paper > and said that I seemed like a nice guy and that someone asked him to > give me this paper.
> I laughed and asked him who that might be that asked him to do this. > He said “just someone” and then he hurried away. What it was was a > photocopy of a two page report from “Freedom Magazine” in English > about the upcoming Hamburg event which contained OSA’s version of > information about Ursula, Anonymous, Christian Market, Jason, Marc, > Graham and myself.
> I believe that OSA was trying to scare me or something like that. > Obviously they knew my flight schedule that was between the government > of Hamburg and myself. They also were able to get a private eye > through security at the airport to give me the papers when no one but > ticketed passengers were supposed to be able to be where I was. > Woooooo I was SO scared. lol
> I just laughed as I read while waiting for my plane as the lies were > so obvious and the entire concept of the “article” was so insane (the > four of us speakers being Anonymous and how Anonymous had infiltrated > the German government, yak, yak, yak with the typical organized > scientology paranoia and lies).
> I laughed at how they said they had somehow “unmasked” us four and > then showed pictures of all of us at earlier Anon raids unmasked and > with different masked Anons. That was their big investigative report? > LOL In the case the picture of me with arms around two Anons in Boston > it was a picture some Anon in Boston was kind enough to take with my > camera when I asked him to do so. I sent it to Dawn Olson at Glosslips > to post on her site just before she did a radio show with me as a > guest. So it was meant for the general public. Yet Freedom Magazine > had somehow “uncovered” it LOL
> Anyway, when we all got to Hamburg on Sept 3 I found out that Graham, > Jason and Marc also got flyers from our friends in OSA while they were > at the airport in Los Angeles. The difference with theirs is that > their copies were in German and they were given them in a non secure > area.
> Although there were a couple of friendly PIs at our hotel there were > also German police there to protect us if needed. We were pretty much > constantly under some form of escort whether it be Jason and Marc in > police cars or others of us in cars with people who worked with > Ursula.
> We had to change our hotel rooms after the first night as OSA was > finding out what rooms we were in using some wacko “covert op” of > being Federal Express calling to try to deliver something to our rooms > (as if Fed Ex even goes to individual rooms at hotels). Anyway they > were pathetic in trying to stop us. The police there I believe scared > them away from doing much more.
> As we all were chatting on the evening of Sept 3 more information had > come in about the “first string” of Moxen et al that had arrived to > “handle us” and that they had filed a legal action with a German court > to stop the event that was to happen on Sept 4. Another action was > filed to at least get their speakers included at the event should the > first action not be successful.
> While we chatted over drinks at the hotel on the evening before the > event, I gave my opinions on what OSA would try and why this would be > historic. I mean here we were under guard having drinks the night > before and as we chatted so much else around was taking form. This > included Anonymous arriving from around Europe and possibly elsewhere > getting ready for their huge part in all this. It included Miscavige > sending his “first string” of lawyers and PR people to handle us. It > included the press, TV and writers arriving in numbers. And it > included governmental representatives arriving from a number of > countries as well as private individuals and cult awareness groups > from several countries arriving.
> And all this was converging on “entheta town” (as Ursula proudly calls > Hamburg) as we spoke.
> The only part where I was disappointed was that all four of us > speakers wanted to go out and join Anonymous between Sept 4 and Sept 6 > but were asked not to do so by German government reps in charge of our > security. There were not concerned with the Anons who they welcomed. > They were concerned for our safety due to fears of what OSA might do. > I still wanted to go out with the Anons but respected our hosts’ > repeated requests not to do so.
> From the postings I saw, I believe it has already been made clear that > in addition to a variety of actions carried out by Anonymous, that > there were two “events” involving the four of us speakers. Those two > events that were pretty much already covered were the group talks to > press, TV and writers in the morning of Sept 4 as well as the big > event itself early that evening.
> I will not cover them here as you all have heard it already and this > posting is going to be too long anyway.
> What is not generally known are that those two events were not even > close to the only things going on with Ursula’s folks and the > speakers. A few of the other things going on there between Sept 4 and > Sept 6 included:
> (i) there were many individual meetings between a speaker and either a > government rep, a writer, a reporter or a TV person. Much, much more > will be coming out of all this over the next weeks and months. > Obviously I will not go into detail here but stay tuned for much more > to come.
> Of note was that on Sept 3 a new book was released in Germany about > Scientology written by Frank Nordhausen and Liane Billerbeck called > “Scientology Wie der Sektenkonzern die Welt erobern will”. I will > leave it to our German friends to translate this title. The front > cover has a big picture of the Berlin “model org” building on it at > night. A picture of the book and some information on it can be found > in German at:http://www.anti-scientology.net/
> Frank is the writer that I talked about interviewing me in Berlin last > September (in my earlier linked report about visiting Ursula in Sept > 07). I got a copy of the book. Although my name is listed briefly in > several places in the book, I have no idea what it says so cannot > report on that. Hopefully it’s interesting and of some value.
> (ii) on Saturday, Sept 6 there were additional meetings with others > that involved governmental reps, TV and press. Again watch for much > more to come out shortly. BTW, there are other strings about a new > German film just being released in schools about organized > scientology. It included a short preview re chats with a number of > people including Tory and Mike P. Well that will be in full swing in > schools shortly as well as a version released on German TV very > shortly. I am not telling anything here not already known by our OSA > friends.
> (iii) lastly, there was a very important long meeting with concerned > governmental reps from a number of countries on Sept 5. I cannot go > into details on this for obvious reasons but I can say that there is > much to come from various governments in the direction of protecting > their people from the lies, abuses, fraud and other crimes coming from > organized scientology. This IMHO was the most important of all the > meetings but again is the one that will be mentioned the least. Marc H > (BFG) has already posted how we met with government reps from > different countries and how things will be happening with them. I’ll > just add that I agree with that.
> As I sit and look back at the last week in Hamburg, I truly do see the > beginnings of major things soon to happen with respect to fighting the > lies, abuses and crimes of David Miscavige and organized scientology.
> On the one side I see organized scientology come out with one lie > after the other. Frankly I am amazed that they even admitted that I > was in their corporate department and only lied by saying that I > assisted attorneys and accountants to make my job somehow seem less > important (I actually ran them
> Following is my report on the recent week in Hamburg that I just made > on enturbulation,org. FYI
> Sorry for the upcoming wall of text but here is more of what happened > this past week in Hamburg from my own perspective as one of the > participants:
> I arrived back home from Germany yesterday (Sept 7) and have managed > to read some of the reports of the events in Hamburg last week.
> At the risk of repeating things in parts of this report, I thought I > would give my own perspective of what happened as well as some other > facts that I have not seen written yet.
> First of all some nice things have been said about Ursula Caberta in > some other reports. These are well deserved. I could go on and on > about what a good person she is but instead will provide here a link > to a posting I did about her last year which summarized what happened > when I saw her last September:
> More than any single person, Ursula was responsible for pulling off > this event.
> I left for Germany on September 2 flying from Manchester, NH to > Newark, NJ where I changed planes and got on a flight to Hamburg. I > had a fairly long layover in Newark. While I was waiting for my plane > to Hamburg in Newark a man kept coming up to me for small talk. He > seemed friendly enough but I could tell he had something to do with > organized scientology just by how he acted. He went away a few times > but just kept coming back to me to chat. Finally he handed me a paper > and said that I seemed like a nice guy and that someone asked him to > give me this paper.
> I laughed and asked him who that might be that asked him to do this. > He said “just someone” and then he hurried away. What it was was a > photocopy of a two page report from “Freedom Magazine” in English > about the upcoming Hamburg event which contained OSA’s version of > information about Ursula, Anonymous, Christian Market, Jason, Marc, > Graham and myself.
> I believe that OSA was trying to scare me or something like that. > Obviously they knew my flight schedule that was between the government > of Hamburg and myself. They also were able to get a private eye > through security at the airport to give me the papers when no one but > ticketed passengers were supposed to be able to be where I was. > Woooooo I was SO scared. lol
> I just laughed as I read while waiting for my plane as the lies were > so obvious and the entire concept of the “article” was so insane (the > four of us speakers being Anonymous and how Anonymous had infiltrated > the German government, yak, yak, yak with the typical organized > scientology paranoia and lies).
> I laughed at how they said they had somehow “unmasked” us four and > then showed pictures of all of us at earlier Anon raids unmasked and > with different masked Anons. That was their big investigative report? > LOL In the case the picture of me with arms around two Anons in Boston > it was a picture some Anon in Boston was kind enough to take with my > camera when I asked him to do so. I sent it to Dawn Olson at Glosslips > to post on her site just before she did a radio show with me as a > guest. So it was meant for the general public. Yet Freedom Magazine > had somehow “uncovered” it LOL
> Anyway, when we all got to Hamburg on Sept 3 I found out that Graham, > Jason and Marc also got flyers from our friends in OSA while they were > at the airport in Los Angeles. The difference with theirs is that > their copies were in German and they were given them in a non secure > area.
> Although there were a couple of friendly PIs at our hotel there were > also German police there to protect us if needed. We were pretty much > constantly under some form of escort whether it be Jason and Marc in > police cars or others of us in cars with people who worked with > Ursula.
> We had to change our hotel rooms after the first night as OSA was > finding out what rooms we were in using some wacko “covert op” of > being Federal Express calling to try to deliver something to our rooms > (as if Fed Ex even goes to individual rooms at hotels). Anyway they > were pathetic in trying to stop us. The police there I believe scared > them away from doing much more.
> As we all were chatting on the evening of Sept 3 more information had > come in about the “first string” of Moxen et al that had arrived to > “handle us” and that they had filed a legal action with a German court > to stop the event that was to happen on Sept 4. Another action was > filed to at least get their speakers included at the event should the > first action not be successful.
> While we chatted over drinks at the hotel on the evening before the > event, I gave my opinions on what OSA would try and why this would be > historic. I mean here we were under guard having drinks the night > before and as we chatted so much else around was taking form. This > included Anonymous arriving from around Europe and possibly elsewhere > getting ready for their huge part in all this. It included Miscavige > sending his “first string” of lawyers and PR people to handle us. It > included the press, TV and writers arriving in numbers. And it > included governmental representatives arriving from a number of > countries as well as private individuals and cult awareness groups > from several countries arriving.
> And all this was converging on “entheta town” (as Ursula proudly calls > Hamburg) as we spoke.
> The only part where I was disappointed was that all four of us > speakers wanted to go out and join Anonymous between Sept 4 and Sept 6 > but were asked not to do so by German government reps in charge of our > security. There were not concerned with the Anons who they welcomed. > They were concerned for our safety due to fears of what OSA might do. > I still wanted to go out with the Anons but respected our hosts’ > repeated requests not to do so.
> From the postings I saw, I believe it has already been made clear that > in addition to a variety of actions carried out by Anonymous, that > there were two “events” involving the four of us speakers. Those two > events that were pretty much already covered were the group talks to > press, TV and writers in the morning of Sept 4 as well as the big > event itself early that evening.
> I will not cover them here as you all have heard it already and this > posting is going to be too long anyway.
> What is not generally known are that those two events were not even > close to the only things going on with Ursula’s folks and the > speakers. A few of the other things going on there between Sept 4 and > Sept 6 included:
> (i) there were many individual meetings between a speaker and either a > government rep, a writer, a reporter or a TV person. Much, much more > will be coming out of all this over the next weeks and months. > Obviously I will not go into detail here but stay tuned for much more > to come.
> Of note was that on Sept 3 a new book was released in Germany about > Scientology written by Frank Nordhausen and Liane Billerbeck called > “Scientology Wie der Sektenkonzern die Welt erobern will”. I will > leave it to our German friends to translate this title. The front > cover has a big picture of the Berlin “model org” building on it at > night. A picture of the book and some information on it can be found > in German at:http://www.anti-scientology.net/
> Frank is the writer that I talked about interviewing me in Berlin last > September (in my earlier linked report about visiting Ursula in Sept > 07). I got a copy of the book. Although my name is listed briefly in > several places in the book, I have no idea what it says so cannot > report on that. Hopefully it’s interesting and of some value.
> (ii) on Saturday, Sept 6 there were additional meetings with others > that involved governmental reps, TV and press. Again watch for much > more to come out shortly. BTW, there are other strings about a new > German film just being released in schools about organized > scientology. It included a short preview re chats with a number of > people including Tory and Mike P. Well that will be in full swing in > schools shortly as well as a version released on German TV very > shortly. I am not telling anything here not already known by our OSA > friends.
> (iii) lastly, there was a very important long meeting with concerned > governmental reps from a number of countries on Sept 5. I cannot go > into details on this for obvious reasons but I can say that there is > much to come from various governments in the direction of protecting > their people from the lies, abuses, fraud and other crimes coming from > organized scientology. This IMHO was the most important of all the > meetings but again is the one that will be mentioned the least. Marc H > (BFG) has already posted how we met with government reps from > different countries and how things will be happening with them. I’ll > just add that I agree with that.
> As I sit and look back at the last week in Hamburg, I truly do see the > beginnings of major things soon to happen with respect to fighting the > lies, abuses and crimes of David Miscavige and organized scientology.
> On the one side I see organized scientology come out with one lie > after the other. Frankly I am amazed that they even admitted that I > was in their corporate department and only lied by saying that I > assisted attorneys and accountants to make my job somehow seem less > important (I actually ran them for Miscavige, not assisted them). It’s > also funny to see other lies about lots of little things even things > like I live at my mother’s when the fact is I have her live with me > rent free to help take care of her as she needs the help and as I had > promised my father I would do same when he was on his deathbed years
> Following is my report on the recent week in Hamburg that I just made > on enturbulation,org. FYI
> Sorry for the upcoming wall of text but here is more of what happened > this past week in Hamburg from my own perspective as one of the > participants:
> I arrived back home from Germany yesterday (Sept 7) and have managed > to read some of the reports of the events in Hamburg last week.
> At the risk of repeating things in parts of this report, I thought I > would give my own perspective of what happened as well as some other > facts that I have not seen written yet.
> First of all some nice things have been said about Ursula Caberta in > some other reports. These are well deserved. I could go on and on > about what a good person she is but instead will provide here a link > to a posting I did about her last year which summarized what happened > when I saw her last September:
> More than any single person, Ursula was responsible for pulling off > this event.
> I left for Germany on September 2 flying from Manchester, NH to > Newark, NJ where I changed planes and got on a flight to Hamburg. I > had a fairly long layover in Newark. While I was waiting for my plane > to Hamburg in Newark a man kept coming up to me for small talk. He > seemed friendly enough but I could tell he had something to do with > organized scientology just by how he acted. He went away a few times > but just kept coming back to me to chat. Finally he handed me a paper > and said that I seemed like a nice guy and that someone asked him to > give me this paper.
> I laughed and asked him who that might be that asked him to do this. > He said “just someone” and then he hurried away. What it was was a > photocopy of a two page report from “Freedom Magazine” in English > about the upcoming Hamburg event which contained OSA’s version of > information about Ursula, Anonymous, Christian Market, Jason, Marc, > Graham and myself.
> I believe that OSA was trying to scare me or something like that. > Obviously they knew my flight schedule that was between the government > of Hamburg and myself. They also were able to get a private eye > through security at the airport to give me the papers when no one but > ticketed passengers were supposed to be able to be where I was. > Woooooo I was SO scared. lol
> I just laughed as I read while waiting for my plane as the lies were > so obvious and the entire concept of the “article” was so insane (the > four of us speakers being Anonymous and how Anonymous had infiltrated > the German government, yak, yak, yak with the typical organized > scientology paranoia and lies).
> I laughed at how they said they had somehow “unmasked” us four and > then showed pictures of all of us at earlier Anon raids unmasked and > with different masked Anons. That was their big investigative report? > LOL In the case the picture of me with arms around two Anons in Boston > it was a picture some Anon in Boston was kind enough to take with my > camera when I asked him to do so. I sent it to Dawn Olson at Glosslips > to post on her site just before she did a radio show with me as a > guest. So it was meant for the general public. Yet Freedom Magazine > had somehow “uncovered” it LOL
> Anyway, when we all got to Hamburg on Sept 3 I found out that Graham, > Jason and Marc also got flyers from our friends in OSA while they were > at the airport in Los Angeles. The difference with theirs is that > their copies were in German and they were given them in a non secure > area.
> Although there were a couple of friendly PIs at our hotel there were > also German police there to protect us if needed. We were pretty much > constantly under some form of escort whether it be Jason and Marc in > police cars or others of us in cars with people who worked with > Ursula.
> We had to change our hotel rooms after the first night as OSA was > finding out what rooms we were in using some wacko “covert op” of > being Federal Express calling to try to deliver something to our rooms > (as if Fed Ex even goes to individual rooms at hotels). Anyway they > were pathetic in trying to stop us. The police there I believe scared > them away from doing much more.
> As we all were chatting on the evening of Sept 3 more information had > come in about the “first string” of Moxen et al that had arrived to > “handle us” and that they had filed a legal action with a German court > to stop the event that was to happen on Sept 4. Another action was > filed to at least get their speakers included at the event should the > first action not be successful.
> While we chatted over drinks at the hotel on the evening before the > event, I gave my opinions on what OSA would try and why this would be > historic. I mean here we were under guard having drinks the night > before and as we chatted so much else around was taking form. This > included Anonymous arriving from around Europe and possibly elsewhere > getting ready for their huge part in all this. It included Miscavige > sending his “first string” of lawyers and PR people to handle us. It > included the press, TV and writers arriving in numbers. And it > included governmental representatives arriving from a number of > countries as well as private individuals and cult awareness groups > from several countries arriving.
> And all this was converging on “entheta town” (as Ursula proudly calls > Hamburg) as we spoke.
> The only part where I was disappointed was that all four of us > speakers wanted to go out and join Anonymous between Sept 4 and Sept 6 > but were asked not to do so by German government reps in charge of our > security. There were not concerned with the Anons who they welcomed. > They were concerned for our safety due to fears of what OSA might do. > I still wanted to go out with the Anons but respected our hosts’ > repeated requests not to do so.
> From the postings I saw, I believe it has already been made clear that > in addition to a variety of actions carried out by Anonymous, that > there were two “events” involving the four of us speakers. Those two > events that were pretty much already covered were the group talks to > press, TV and writers in the morning of Sept 4 as well as the big > event itself early that evening.
> I will not cover them here as you all have heard it already and this > posting is going to be too long anyway.
> What is not generally known are that those two events were not even > close to the only things going on with Ursula’s folks and the > speakers. A few of the other things going on there between Sept 4 and > Sept 6 included:
> (i) there were many individual meetings between a speaker and either a > government rep, a writer, a reporter or a TV person. Much, much more > will be coming out of all this over the next weeks and months. > Obviously I will not go into detail here but stay tuned for much more > to come.
> Of note was that on Sept 3 a new book was released in Germany about > Scientology written by Frank Nordhausen and Liane Billerbeck called > “Scientology Wie der Sektenkonzern die Welt erobern will”. I will > leave it to our German friends to translate this title. The front > cover has a big picture of the Berlin “model org” building on it at > night. A picture of the book and some information on it can be found > in German at:http://www.anti-scientology.net/
> Frank is the writer that I talked about interviewing me in Berlin last > September (in my earlier linked report about visiting Ursula in Sept > 07). I got a copy of the book. Although my name is listed briefly in > several places in the book, I have no idea what it says so cannot > report on that. Hopefully it’s interesting and of some value.
> (ii) on Saturday, Sept 6 there were additional meetings with others > that involved governmental reps, TV and press. Again watch for much > more to come out shortly. BTW, there are other strings about a new > German film just being released in schools about organized > scientology. It included a short preview re chats with a number of > people including Tory and Mike P. Well that will be in full swing in > schools shortly as well as a version released on German TV very > shortly. I am not telling anything here not already known by our OSA > friends.
> (iii) lastly, there was a very important long meeting with concerned > governmental reps from a number of countries on Sept 5. I cannot go > into details on this for obvious reasons but I can say that there is > much to come from various governments in the direction of protecting > their people from the lies, abuses, fraud and other crimes coming from > organized scientology. This IMHO was the most important of all the > meetings but again is the one that will be mentioned the least. Marc H > (BFG) has already posted how we met with government reps from > different countries and how things will be happening with them. I’ll > just add that I agree with that.
> As I sit and look back at the last week in Hamburg, I truly do see the > beginnings of major things soon to happen with respect to fighting the > lies, abuses and crimes of David Miscavige and organized scientology.
> On the one side I see organized scientology come out with one lie > after the other. Frankly I am amazed that they even admitted that I > was in their corporate department and only lied by saying that I > assisted attorneys and accountants to make my job somehow seem less > important (I actually ran them for Miscavige, not assisted them). It’s > also funny to see other lies about lots of little things even things > like I live at my mother’s when the fact is I have her live with me > rent free to help take care of her as she needs the help and as I had > promised my father I would do same when he was on his deathbed years
