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RolandRB

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Mar 7, 2005, 9:18:33 AM3/7/05
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I have read accounts here of OTs dying of cancer. Why do they do this?
Why don't they just change their postulates about it? Do they do this
to show off to other OTs about how they drop their mock-ups?

Chip Gallo

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Mar 7, 2005, 9:33:40 AM3/7/05
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You hear different reasons for an OT dying. Keep in mind that OV IX is
marketed as the beginning of the OT levels so they are Pre OTs.

Key one is probably that they were PTS (equals Out Ethics)
They had errors in or "unflat" auditing
Their body wasn't repairable to they decided to "drop it" (admirable to
others how causative this is).

Chip Gallo
www.chipster.biz

Mike Gormez

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Mar 7, 2005, 11:35:58 AM3/7/05
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"On 7 Mar 2005 06:18:33 -0800, "RolandRB" <rolan...@hotmail.com> wrote
in <1110205112.9...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

>I have read accounts here of OTs dying of cancer. Why do they do this?
>Why don't they just change their postulates about it? Do they do this
>to show off to other OTs about how they drop their mock-ups?


In his confidential "Assists" lecture which only very high-up
scientologists have heard, Hubbard said: "People are supposed to be sick.
Also a body was only supposed to live 70 years which is a bunch of
balderdash. Before R6 and so forth, they lived on and on and on and on and
on! There was no such thing as this. They taught people death, they taught
them amnesia."


So it is Xenu's fault.


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Mike Gormez

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Phil Scott

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Mar 7, 2005, 1:43:23 PM3/7/05
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"RolandRB" <rolan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1110205112.9...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> I have read accounts here of OTs dying of cancer. Why do
they do this?

The DC current flow from the e meter, is enough to cause
calcium to plate out in the cells of the nervous system
creating conditions seen pervasively around cancers. (Dr
Nordenstroms research logged at www.lermanet.com).


> Why don't they just change their postulates about it?

'Postulates' .. positive thinking, ... negative thinking etc
operate by inducing brain chemistry intended to forward the
postulated result and this causes the body chemistry and
nervous system to adapt.. the body sets up to accomplish the
postulated goal. Aberating the cell structures with a
trickle charge bypasses these mechanisms and forces changes on
the nervous system, such as calcification of the neurons etc..
and of course with that countless other effects, such as
endorphine production that addicts a person to the trickle
charge.

> Do they do this
> to show off to other OTs about how they drop their mock-ups?

No.. thats only the late stage rationalization. Adopted in
some cases to keep the soothing brainwash in tact, in other
cases to avoid facing the truth that Hubbie created a real
bogus mess etc.

When its too late to change, dis-invest, or roll back the
clock... few have what it takes to face the music on errors.


Now thats my view. Perhaps one of the *real OT's will respond
with the correct... dattta.


Phil Scott


>


Phil Scott

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Mar 7, 2005, 9:40:38 PM3/7/05
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"Barbara Schwarz" <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1110234862.6...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

>
> Phil Scott wrote:
> > "RolandRB" <rolan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
news:1110205112.9...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > I have read accounts here of OTs dying of cancer. Why do
> > they do this?
> >
> > The DC current flow from the e meter, is enough to cause
> > calcium to plate out in the cells of the nervous system
> > creating conditions seen pervasively around cancers.
(Dr
> > Nordenstroms research logged at www.lermanet.com).
>
> What a bunch of crap. That explains also the cancer that
even a lot
> more people are getting who never saw an e-meter in all
their lives,
> right?


Its the difference in cancer rates...thats relevant... on
OT7 knows way more than a few people in that small group who
have died of brain cancer... in the general population its a
rarity... one seldom knows of any personally with the disease.


Its like people who are expecting an alien invasion any
second, nutz... but there are people on the street with the
problem.. its just in scientology one is cultured into
believeing that he can save the universe from the aliens with
is brain waves if only he gives enough money to the cult.

You see the difference there..no?


>
> Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

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Mar 7, 2005, 10:36:22 PM3/7/05
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Phil Scott wrote:
> "Barbara Schwarz" <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1110234862.6...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Phil Scott wrote:
> > > "RolandRB" <rolan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >
> news:1110205112.9...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > I have read accounts here of OTs dying of cancer. Why do
> > > they do this?
> > >
> > > The DC current flow from the e meter, is enough to cause
> > > calcium to plate out in the cells of the nervous system
> > > creating conditions seen pervasively around cancers.
> (Dr
> > > Nordenstroms research logged at www.lermanet.com).
> >
> > What a bunch of crap. That explains also the cancer that
> even a lot
> > more people are getting who never saw an e-meter in all
> their lives,
> > right?
>
>
> Its the difference in cancer rates...thats relevant... on
> OT7 knows way more than a few people in that small group who
> have died of brain cancer... in the general population its a
> rarity... one seldom knows of any personally with the disease.

That is not supported by any evidence, Phil. But if it would be true,
then I have the explanation for it: As OTs are very smart and able
people, psychs want to get rid of them and target them more like other
people.


>
> Its like people who are expecting an alien invasion any
> second, nutz... but there are people on the street with the
> problem.. its just in scientology one is cultured into
> believeing that he can save the universe from the aliens with
> is brain waves if only he gives enough money to the cult.
>
> You see the difference there..no?

That is not the religion Scientology that you described.

Barbara Schwarz

Most wonderful imaginary man Mark Rathbun de Rothschild

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Mar 8, 2005, 1:08:09 AM3/8/05
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How would you know, Psychotic Schwarz? You are a Scientologist like
I'm the Tooth Fairy.

RolandRB

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Mar 8, 2005, 7:05:19 AM3/8/05
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But once you have run out R6, which these OTs have done, then they
should live on and on as Ron says. Ron saved us from Xenu, no?

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