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The Maquis

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Oct 10, 2006, 10:49:16 AM10/10/06
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Either I had a 'mini_stroke' of some neural fracture making me now
unable to 'search' ARS/archives properly or Greg Baha's Public Statement
found on Vince Daniels Web Site via Dave Touretzky's stop-narconon site:
http://stop-narconon.org/Personal/Beha

was never published in *full* on ARS. I ran a dozen strings of the text
through G/Groups and came up with nothing showing the text in full so
either the mini-stroke 'shadow' has finally caught up with my mundane
neural senses making me Barbara Schwarz savvy as a brain-clone or people
here simply neglected to post Greg Baha's statement *in full*.

Whether I had that stroke or not, Greg's public statement does need to
go into the public record for future generations to read no matter who
controls the index when Google finally 'hits the skids' and
'Nano-Engine' takes its place consuming all of archives, as Colossus:
The 'ptsc' Corbin Project . So here is Greg Baha's Public Statement in
full for Cult-studies students from the class of 2007+[simile]

[Complete text]
http://vincedaniels.com/article16.html
Open letter from the parents of one that was treated at Narconon - then
mistreated

September 13, 2006

On Saturday, September 16th, Greg Beha will appear with Vince Daniels on
KCAA in a show that will focus on the Cults in general and the Church of
Scientology in particular. So what does his son receiving drug treatment
at the Narconon treatment facility have to do with the cults and
Scientology?

Come to think of it, former Scientologists and critics of the church
will also discuss the opening of a new "Narconon" facility soon to open
in Southern California's Leona Valley. Again, what does this have to do
with the topic at hand on that show? Well, a trip to a website belonging
to David Touretzky, one of Daniels' guests that day might clue you in.
For more, go here http://stop-narconon.org/LeonaValley. For some
rivoting interviews and videos of another of Vince's guests on that
show,Tory Christman, former member of the church for over 30 years, you
can enjoy some vintage Tory by going here
http://www.xenutv.com/interviews/tory-videos.htm.

What follows is a letter written by Greg Beha and his wife on behalf of
their son.

September 11, 2006

To Whom It May Concern:

In the last two years my step-son (20 years old) drug problem has gotten
really bad. He’s on probation for writing a forged check. He has to
check in with his parole officer every week and some weeks they do a
drug test and he always passes it except for marijuana and they don’t
really do anything about that. He also goes to one on one counseling and
group counseling every week but it’s not helping. In April and May of
this year things has gotten out of hand. We tried sending him to the
Service but they won’t take him as long as he is on reporting probation.
It looked like he was going to end up in jail or death. We finally
decided on sending him to a Drug Rehabilitation Center . We wanted one
out of state so his girl-friend or any of his drug buddies couldn’t
contact him.

During the last week of May 2006,we called 1-800- No Drugs, looking for
a Drug Rehabilitation Center to send our son to. They hooked us up with
Narconon Stone Hawk Rehabilitation Center of Battle Creek Michigan. We
talked with Ramsy Darwish, CCDC an Intake Counselor at Stone Hawk about
our situation. He convinced us (calling us every 2 or 3 days for a
month) that Stone Hawk is where our son should be. We finally agreed
with him and on June 30th we entered our son into the Stone
Hawk Rehabilitation Center at a cost of $23,500. (This is a 3 to 6 month
program and money had to be paid upon entering the program). I paid
$15,000 (borrowed credit card) and $8,500 on a line of credit I had. (I
plan on getting a mortgage on some property to pay this off).

Ramsy Darwish, CCDC an Intake Counselor was there to help check him in.
We just finished driving 7 hours to get to this rehab and it was a
little after midnight . We had plenty of paperwork to fill out. On one
of the forms, it said that the program was a No Refund Program . One of
the questions that we asked at that time was if our son threw a fit were
they going to throw him out. Ramsy assured us that they dealt with that
all the time and that would not be a problem.

At that time I figure that Stone Hawk was the best place for our son.
After all what was I going to do with him. If I could handle him at
home, I wouldn’t have signed him up for a drug rehabilitation program.
The day before, our son sold his pick-up and didn’t have any money to
show for it. (I’m assuming that the money went for drugs). After
checking him in they took him right to Detox.

On July 2, (2 days into Detox) our son passed out and was vomiting
blood, the RN at the center would not let him go to the hospital. Our
son finally convinced them to take him to the hospital. They said they
would take him AMA (against medical advice). At the hospital they said
he was dehydrated and started him on IV’s. After going back to Stone
Hawk, he finished the detox withdrawal part of the program. Our son
started the next phase of the program (Therapeutic Training Routines
Course) which teaches one’s ability to confront and communicate.

Our son was having problems with getting through this phase. During this
period we were talking with our son and the counselors (Anthony, Patty,
and Ramsy) trying to get our son through this part of the program. On
July 13th or 14th we talked to Patty (our son’s counselor) and he told
us that if he couldn’t get our son though this course by the end of
weekend that they would have to let him go. We called Ramsy and told him
about the situation and he assured us that he would talk to our son to
help get him through the program.

On July 18th around
7:00pm (18 days into the program) they loaded my son’s belongings and
drove him 26 miles away to a motel room and dropped him off. They paid
for his room (from his medical fund) and gave him $10.00. We have a
phone message that says; “This is Jai the administrator of Stone Hawk of
Battle Creek, Tory just had another outburst and we are basically
washing our hands at this point and time, he is being on a 2 week AMA,
basically a 2 week suspension.” The next day we went to get our son and
took him straight to another Drug Rehabilitation Center at a cost of
$8,000 (a borrowed credit card) for the first two week and
$6,000(another borrowed credit card) for the following 4 weeks. After
that I’m not sure what we will do.

On July 27th we got a hold of the owner of Stone Hawk (PerWickstrom) and
he told us that there would be No Refund and that our son was on a 30
day suspension AMA (against medical advice) and that he was going to
hold the bed for 30 days. Our son could have up to 3- 30 day suspensions
(and he would hold a bed all this time) before they kicked him out. This
is where they get a 3 month program.
Since that time our son is in another rehab center and he has passed the
first part of their program (two weeks) and his continuing in the second
phase of the program without a problem.

I guess the story I want to tell is that Narconon Drug Rehabilitation
Centers are all over the United States and they have a no refund program
where they can take your money ($23,500) and stick it to you. You don’t
know it’s a No Refund Program until the day you get there and then you
are so desperate to turn your son or daughter over to get them off drugs
you will sign anything.

Sincerely,

Greg and Beth Beha "

Heartfelt, and heart grabbing account. Worth every inch of bandwidth..


The Maquis
[EEG brain-scan now in progress. It must have been the 'cream sauce' or
too much 'Dr Pepper'..]

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Emma

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Oct 11, 2006, 8:26:22 PM10/11/06
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"The Maquis" <Basque_beret@Maquis_de_l'Ain> wrote in message
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Thanks for posting this.

- Emma


Out_Of_The_Dark

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Oct 11, 2006, 10:11:21 PM10/11/06
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Thanks for posting this! I cannot believe how easily Narconon
International figurehead, Clark Carr ignored responsibility for getting
them a refund of the balance so the son could finish his treatment.
The transcripts are clear on Carr's irresponsibility on rectifying this
and correcting Narconon Stonehawk for dumping the patient off at a
distant motel midway through the program.

The web page links are up and running but I see there was an Oct 9
update, so that may be why you, myself and perhaps others, had a hard
time accessing the site links.

Keep up the good work. :)

Mary~

Stop-Narconon.org: Beha Family Story
http://stop-narconon.org/Personal/Beha

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