[From the 1991 edition of the red volumes, volume 1, page 351:]
A KEY TO THE UNCONSCIOUS
SYMBOLOGICAL
PROCESSING
THE WORK IN THIS VOLUME IS DERIVED
FROM THE BASIC AXIOMS OF DIANETICS
[1952]
FOREWORD
While this book is primarily designed for counseling, it may be
employed by less skilled operators either in the alleviation of
anxiety or psychosomatic illness.
So long as study is given to the text and the question pages are used
without departure, only benefit may accrue.
........
Here the individual is permitted to evaluate for himself what certain
symbols may mean to him and he is further pressed into seeking the
reality of these symbols he has himself envisioned with these aids.
... L. Ron Hubbard
First of all, you are an established anti-Scientology fanatic, and
only an idiot would trust anything you say on the subject.
So you criticize Scientology for not teaching the same thing
as the "psychs" on the one hand, and are now critizing Scientology
for teaching the same thing as the "psychs" in this article?
Must be a slow day for anti-Scientology hate propaganda.
Why don't you just do what 'Anonymous' usually does and write
some fake anti-testimonials from non-existent ex-Scientologists
and post them on one of your hate sites or one of the tabloid
sites gand pretend that this makes them true?
Tom
--
The Truth will set you free:
http://www.sethcenter.com
And you forgot to mention the many pages of actual symbols provided in
the same reference!
(I don't know of any church services that actually use those
references, however.)
Whatever happened to Blownforgood? Did he finally return to the
church? (I imagine so...)
Blownforgood made factual statements on hate message board OCMB that
he knows for sure that Mark Rathbun is dead. Today, everybody knew
that BFG was lying. He is just a sock puppet, closely related to Chuck
Beatty, Jonathon.
Chuck constantly covers up that the C of S is infiltrated by agents of
the German secret service who altered L. Ron Hubbard's writings. Chuck
also conceals that he provides services for the German government, the
most intolerant government on the planet.
Barbara Schwarz
---
Who is Paul Horner aka Paul Durks aka Darude and a lousy zoo full of
other sockpuppets? I describe Paul as typical ultra low and lawless
anti-religious extremist scum.
Right now, he imposters me under ID Barbara.Schwarz @ charter.net.
He stole the name of Mark or Marty Rathbun and my name Barbara Schwarz
and forged our names as registrars of a criminal rip-off website.
Horner steals also the name, the layout and the informative ideas of
correct informing www.religiousfreedomwatch.org and twists their
information and distracts from the low activities of the anti-
religious extremists and the anonymous "protesters", which apparently
are front groups of the psychiatry-obsessed and Scientology-hating
traditionally intolerant German secret service.
This here is the original website:
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/
It is not my website either, but I am a witness to numerous events
described on this website and therefore can testify that these events
indeed happened. I also encountered the extremists as portrayed on
this website and I find their characters and activities correctly
described on the www.religiousreligiousfreedomwatch.org.
Paul Horner can't accept that I didn't fall for the lies of anti-
religious extremists and Anonymous. By forging my name as registrar
under his rip-off-and-lie website, he simply tries to change reality
in his and their favor.
Let me give you another example what Paul Horner is doing. Let's say,
you despise smoking. He would steal your name and register and publish
a pro-smoking website under your name.
Let's say, you despise drinking. He would steal your name and register
and publish a pro-drinking website under your (famous) name. Let's say
you despise drugs. He would steal your name and publish a pro-drug
website under your name. Let's say you would despise Nazis and
psychiatrists. He would steal your name and register and publish a pro-
Nazi and psychiatrist website under your name. Let's say, you despise
pedophilia. He would steal your name and register and publish a pro-
pedophilia website under your name.
I hope you got the point what Paul Horner does to me with his rip off
website of the www.religiousfreedomwatch.org.
Any anti-religious extremist or Anonymous guy who does not handle Paul
Horner to remove his lying website from the net is just as guilty as
Paul Horner himself.
Paul Horner has a criminal history of ripping off websites.
Have a look here:
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2002/d2002-0029.html
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2003/d2003-0071.html
I am impostored and forged by a poster who uses the e-mail address
Barbara.Schwarz @ charter.net. Tory Christman posts with @
charter.net. Is she part of these criminal activities against me?
Any anti-religious extremist and Anonymous who is pro Paul Horner
should share a prison cell with him.
Barbara Schwarz
> Chuck constantly covers up that the C of S is infiltrated by agents of
> the German secret service who altered L. Ron Hubbard's writings. Chuck
> also conceals that he provides services for the German government, the
> most intolerant government on the planet.
When did they supposedly alter Hubbard's writings? That I know, he was alive
until 1986 and wrote a lot of crap in the preceding 40 years. If any of it
was alteration of his original writing he could have spoken up while he was
still alive.
Jonnie,
it's obvious from Ms. Schwarz that SMEGMAPUSSY or some such acronym
got to Hubbard and dysfuctualised the dysfunctional premise even more
promiscuously than we had formerly supposed.
There is no potency in the fallacious thrust of Scientology - what use
is there in introducing the Schwarzenegger apologia of "shrinkage"?
If Hubbard's writings were wildly inaccurate in the first place does
it matter which intervening variable one postulates that made them
even worse?
Jonnie,
=======
I know but I am curious to understand what she means to say, if for nothing
else then at least the fun of it.
Jonni,
so you are just doing it for the halibut? Have you no sole? Are you
sure this is the plaice? I know that Ms. Schwarz likes to pronounce as
if she were the salmon on the mount but do you really think she could
remove every trout from your mind?
Jonni,
=======
Well, not only just for the lulz. I do think the "tech" was altered but I
think Hubbard did it himself. Am just curious to know what's BS version.
Alternative explanations do open my own mind into unexplored venues. I
already know all the critical explanations as they have been uttered untold
number of times. I am looking for new ones :-)
Regarding your response: You apparently do.
> Must be a slow day for anti-Scientology hate propaganda.
>
> Why don't you just do what 'Anonymous' usually does and write
> some fake anti-testimonials from non-existent ex-Scientologists
> and post them on one of your hate sites or one of the tabloid
> sites gand pretend that this makes them true?
>
> Tom
>
> --
> The Truth will set you free:http://www.sethcenter.com
You mean, like the person that posts with the false name "Tom Newton",
that only lies?
So far you only claimed Anonymous lied, yet you have NEVER presented
any evidence.
You, "Tom Newton", hav ZERO credibility.
Peter
"The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower
bands of the Tone Scale from the social order would result in an
almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the
dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered."
- L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 170
>"Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> wrote in message
>news:74ffaf55-dd1f-4f71...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Chuck constantly covers up that the C of S is infiltrated by agents of
>> the German secret service who altered L. Ron Hubbard's writings. Chuck
>> also conceals that he provides services for the German government, the
>> most intolerant government on the planet.
>
>When did they supposedly alter Hubbard's writings?
1980-1982.
So you support that theory too? What in your opinion did they altered?
Hey Chuck, I hadn't heard of this book. It was published around the
time he published some of the other early ones like The Creation of
Human Ability, so I wonder if these processes were too effective and
stopped people from coming back to spend more money.
Anybody have a copy? Please stick it on Wikileaks or a torrent or
whatever.
Likewise, the power Processes used to stop people from going further
on the Bridge, because people were pretty happy where they were.
That's why those processes were mostly removed from the lineup. ;-)
>"Jonathon Barbera" <jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote in message
>news:k7i474lgtruac9j21...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:46:23 +0800, "Jonnie Tyler"
>> <Barry...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>"Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> wrote in message
>>>news:74ffaf55-dd1f-4f71...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> Chuck constantly covers up that the C of S is infiltrated by agents of
>>>> the German secret service who altered L. Ron Hubbard's writings. Chuck
>>>> also conceals that he provides services for the German government, the
>>>> most intolerant government on the planet.
>>>
>>>When did they supposedly alter Hubbard's writings?
>>
>>
>> 1980-1982.
>
>So you support that theory too? What in your opinion did they altered?
>
The church is still sorting it all out. The newly restored 2007
edition of the basic books is one step toward that.
Well, I would be interested to read your back-to-back comparison to see what
exactly was changed from the original.
Your propaganda confabulation is L. Ron Hubbard policy:
Officials around the US and the world are reading OSA Network Order
15, and they know what Hubbard ordered, and they politely let
Scientology PR people play their games, but officials understand the
agent provacateur and the propaganda confabulation that OSA and the
unwitting or witting volunteers like yourself are pumping out.
Hubbard said, in OSA Network Order 15:
"OFFICE OF SPECIAL AFFAIRS NETWORK ORDER
15, 18 February 1988 Confidential BLACK PROPAGANDA (Originally
written by LRH on 12 January 1972. Issued as OSA NW Order on 18
February 1988.) ... To cease to be the effect of classification and
become in our turn the cause of it, the classifier, is to win the
propaganda game. Our propaganda is dirty.... We do this trick by
survey and attack.... we become re-classified as attackers and the
enemy as bad hats as they're for the evil if they attack us... We just
run propaganda campaigns....It reclassifies our attackers as evil
people... we (1) Seek to avoid opportunities for the enemy to classify
us. (2) Contest or expose any previous classifications as false (dead
agentry, etc.) (3) Engage in a series of campaigns which confuse past
classification. (4) Achieve for ourselves a dominance in classifying
ourselves and others." "L. RON HUBBARD, Founder , Adopted as official
Church policy by CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY INTERNATIONAL “
You are following the above Hubbard doctrine of using dirty propaganda
that is false, and actually thus is black propaganda.
You are confabulating.
And this is what makes Scientology such a dreadful and offensive
religion/new age cult group.
The prolific and smothering nature of Hubbard's extensive and
intricately intertwining policies and rules, each with selective
distribution to just the members who need to know this or that policy,
makes for a neat bubble world for the dupes who get sucked into
Scientology, the regular rank and file are all good normal people.
A few of the rank and file rise to Office of Special Affairs, but even
the decades long staffers at OSA quit.
Big quitters in recent years from OSA:
1) Nancy O'Meara
2) Leisa Goodman
3) Mike Rinder
And former senior RTC members like Marty Rathbun and Steve Marlowe
have quit, amongst dozens of others over the last 15 years.
People are naturally pretty decent, the Scientologists I knew, and
they still are pretty decent people.
They are stuck in the web of foul Hubbard doctrines that give them no
other option but remain in their bubble world and NOT engage and read
the internet widely.
There are so many sites and ex members speaking up, with recent info,
that paint a completely different picture of the top ranks of the
Scientology staff echelons, compared to what the public expects of the
top ranked staff of a religion.
Scientology's top ranks are in shambles, and people need to read what
the recent ex members have said:
Anyone can Google:
Jeff Hawkins
Marc Headley
Maureen Smith
Bruce Hines
Larry Brennan
BTs2Free
blownforgood
and read up on life and the extreme behavior at the top of the
Scientology movement.
Scientology/Hubbard promises Operating Thetan spiritual improvement.
A full Operating Thetan is just a pure soul, able to operate without
their body, and without need, ultimately, of their body.
But there is no Mount Olympus gathering of the pure souls of
spiritually improved Scientologists who have done the full L. Ron
Hubbard Bridge to Total Freedom and there is no group of these pure
souls operating and banding together.
Hubbard said he would see "us" on the other side of the Bridge.
That is not occurring. There is absolutely no proof of this.
Scientology does NOT deliver what it promises.
There are no operating souls, pure souls, who are free to operate
without their bodies and experience and cause things in the physical
universe like Hubbard promises.
For that reason Scientology is a con job.
Staying on the Mount Olympus analogy, the Gilman Hot Springs facility
where the top ranks of the Scientology movement live and work, that
facility is NOT a sane operating group.
There are numerous confirmed reports of despicable irrational behavior
of the top ranked staff abusing one another with harangues and even
petty violence.
The top of the Scientology movement, one would expect a sort of Mount
Olympus type atmosphere, with people of various powers of spiritual
ability, doing good things to one another, helping each other attain
these glowing inspiring spiritual abilities.
But that is not the case.
I've met some recent Clearwater parishioners, who are damn nice nice
people, but they don't have the spiritual powers.
The nice OT 7s and OT 8s who anonymously called me, and I had some
pretty long talks on the phone with, are damn nice people and very
serene and happy with the spiritual stuff they gained. One for one,
they politely have strong disappointment with the way that staff are
treated even at the Clearwater Flag facilities.
I gathered that the OTs (7s and 8s) who are happy, they do feel sorry
for the staff at Clearwater, and they sometimes had being over grubbed
for donations for this or that new Scientology activity/cause that's
the latest, but they sound happy with what they got.
They are NOT Mount Olympus quality "gods" for sure. They are just
pretty damn nice people. They have some kind of calm serene mental
state. They were willing to freely speak about body thetans, and
that was nice.
So, there are nice people, good people, who get to the top of the
Scientology Bridge to Total Freedom. They are slightly disaffected
with "management" and hate to see the staff at Clearwater abused
(yelled and screamed at, and the staff are just harried no end, it is
an institutional built in downside to the Sea Org that the Sea Org
service frontlines staff and executives who are most responsible for
keeping up the "statistics" (the income and Paid Completions
statistics and sub-statistics) who are most under the stress and
strain of the Hubbard bureaucratic system of penalty rules.
But in the end of the day, looking at does Scientology deliver the
goods, the answer is clearly no.
There are no fully causative out of the body operating souls released
from the bounds of human bodies, no "full Operating Thetans" (pure
souls free to be themselves purely as souls and able to operate freely
in the universe) being produced by Scientology, NOR by the Free Zone.
Is it a good goal to produce "pure souls" that can operate free of
their bodies.
Only if this theology or cosmology is actually reality.
My beliefs are that this theology or cosmology, is not even reality,
so it is automatically a losing game.
It is a "game" similar to other religions or mystical practices which
believe that man is a soul or has a soul.
Scientology is in the category of believing man is a soul and free to
become a pure soul able to just be a pure soul.
Scientology never produces a pure soul, a "full Operating Thetan",
just a huge hopeful operation that is producing some people who obtain
a serene state of beingness, but still NO proof they are souls
inhabiting their bodies.
It is all subjective "reality" that these people believe themselves to
be souls inhabiting their bodies.
Fine, let's see the pure soul proof!
"What is real for you, is what is real for you." This is the Hubbard
escape clause allowing the hopeful, good natured, and the top OT 7s
and OT 8s are pretty serene calm generally good natured people, at
least when they are putting on their "hats" and playing their roles as
OT 7s and OT 8s.
But the fact that would WIN Scientology this all time argument would
be some demonstrated acts by some of the OT 7 and OT 8 superpeople of
their pure soul operating abilities.
I agree if Scientologists who are true operating souls, if they could
demonstrate some of their abilities that clearly show they are indeed
souls inhabiting their bodies, if they can just show this publicly,
and gain acceptance and praise for acting as souls operating free of
their bodies, THEN all the noise will die away REAL fast.
Because then, the world would be transformed.
There'd be a huge swing to the belief that man is a soul, himself, and
Scientology would be really looked at with interest, rather than how
it is looked at today, as a "con", and Scientology does fit the "con"
label, mainly and simply because there are no Scientology "super-
people" (the OT 7 and OT 8 people) who have convinced anyone in the
world of their operating soul abilities, pure soul travel (out of the
body at will, and causing things), etc.
Show the world some pure soul abilities, and the world will be
transformed.
At best, Scientologists who act decently, impress their neighbors, and
GOOD on them for doing this, where they do do this.
The front groups though, and the CCHR stuff, I mean the whole
discussion of Scientology just goes into all of the major sub groups
and front groups of the movement, and every little nook and cranny of
the whole Scientology operation is replete with human frailties,
Hubbard's erroneous opinions turned into policy, causing upsets
ultimately internally in the staff ranks and outside the movement.
Because Scientology is a one man band operation, Hubbard didn't allow
himself to be tempered by his colleagues, and Hubbard had only willing
subordinates who were only too willing to "comply" with Hubbard's
orders and policies, but there has developed NO internal class of
people to criticize those orders and policies from Hubbard.
1) Disconnection applied by Scientology is extreme and hurtful. It
should allow for good weather and good roads communication at least at
family gatherings, family birthdays, and allow for "truce" type
relationships, but currently "disconnection" is simplistically applied
to know out ALL contact, which is extreme and Catholics absolutely
find the Scientology disconnection abominable, the practicing
Catholics I have discussed Scientology's "disconnection" with. This
is a perfect example of Hubbard not allowing his laid in concrete
policy "disconnection" from being softened to at least allow "truce"
or good roads good weather family cards and letters and reunion
relationships between "declared suppressives" and Scientologists who
happen to be family members or former friends. I wish this issue
alone be studied and written upon with recommendations, by some new
religious movement scholars, as Scientology appears unable to reform
itself in this area.
2) Retire the anti-psychiatry strategies and all anti-psychiatry front
group activities.
3) Stop soaking the Scientologist business people for payments to
WISE, and disband WISE. Let Scientology business people be normal
citizens.
4) Pay off all refunds, period, of anyone asking for full refunds.
The only thing I think useful, is the one on one word clearing
mentoring that volunteers do to help kids and people increase their
literacy.
I hate the stiffling Hubbard word clearing rules, and only when I
threw the rules OUT THE WINDOW, did my own vocabulary increase and
word skills increase! So I hate even give a positive nod to the
Hubbard "word clearing" rules since those rules are extreme and have
attached to them "suppressive person declaration penalties" if someone
consistently violates Hubbard's word clearing rules.
Hubbard's system is so fraught with the "suppressive person penalties"
for anyone who starts using Hubbard's word clearing rules but who then
decides to experiment or change or do what they think is best in
applying the Hubbard rules.
And Hubbard wanted all the credit, so he has penalties for people
using part of his "word clearing" procedures and not acknowledging
him, even though his procedures are offensive to some people and they
naturally are NOT inclined to follow Hubbard's detailed rules for the
word clearing procedures.
Every damn aspect of Scientology/Hubbard's rules and procedures
carries with them the burden of Hubbard's declaring the person a
"suppressive person" who misapplies Hubbard's detailed rules as
Hubbard laid out.
THAT is the crux of the backlash rejection people feel against
Scientology.
Scientology is NOT free. Scientology is Hubbard's way, or the
Hubbard's penalty system kicks the person out of Scientology.
And once kicked OUT of Scientology, then we have people (whether they
are real or fake identities, they don't make themselves easily
reachable to confirm if they are indeed real or not) like Barbara
Schwarz and Tom Newton) who are in the wings to spew out re-
classifying propaganda about the ex Scientologists who speak out about
the Hubbard messy system.
That's how I feel about it.
Hubbard's system is so messy, that is difficult figuring out how to
reform it.
And Hubbard over the decades from the 1950s through the 1980s lived
through all of the bad reactions to his system, he refined it out of
his own responses to the public backlash against him, as the decades
rolled on, and he even commented throughout his policies about the bad
reaction that people have to his system, and he paints the people who
had a bad reaction against him in the negative ways just like you do
above, Barbara Schwarz.
And Hubbard's OSA Network Order 15, is the approved Hubbard tactic to
deal with Scientology's/Hubbard's "enemies."
I don't write this for you Barbara, I write this for those few
stumbling across your confabulations and black propaganda, as I
imagine in the years to come, this same "learning curve" will take
place inside the heads of the members of Scientology who are starting
to make their mental exit from the movement.
Chuck Beatty
Why don't you private email him on Clambake?
>"Jonathon Barbera" <jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote in message
>news:do9574dh5ve0ivlhj...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 05:18:37 +0800, "Jonnie Tyler"
>> <Barry...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>"Jonathon Barbera" <jonatho...@ispname.net> wrote in message
>>>news:k7i474lgtruac9j21...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:46:23 +0800, "Jonnie Tyler"
>>>> <Barry...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:74ffaf55-dd1f-4f71...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck constantly covers up that the C of S is infiltrated by agents of
>>>>>> the German secret service who altered L. Ron Hubbard's writings. Chuck
>>>>>> also conceals that he provides services for the German government, the
>>>>>> most intolerant government on the planet.
>>>>>
>>>>>When did they supposedly alter Hubbard's writings?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1980-1982.
>>>
>>>So you support that theory too? What in your opinion did they altered?
>>>
>>
>>
>> The church is still sorting it all out. The newly restored 2007
>> edition of the basic books is one step toward that.
>
>
>Well, I would be interested to read your back-to-back comparison to see what
>exactly was changed from the original.
There is an event video that describes the restoration of all eighteen
of the basic books. The church will send you a copy on DVD if you're
interested.
The funny thing is, when I do attempt to contact people like that,
they never respond. I have a knack for frightening these people.
Perhaps they recognize my ethics altitude and mistake me for a senior
they had in the Sea Org.
The missed withholds keep them in hiding, but if they could just get
those withholds off, they'd realize that they don't need be hiding
from anyone. They'd probably be so happy about their situation with
the church that they'd abandon their plans to destroy it and realize
that the church is really a reflection of themselves: for better or
for worse!
I don't think this is very interesting. It probably is just PR on how they
did it. Besides, sending on DVD is quite outdated. They could make it
available on line.
Since you are supposedly an independent Scientologist, it would be
interesting if you could do this back to back comparison yourself, at least
for the main points.
Well, I know that the new edition of Science of Survival has replaced
all of the hundreds (600 something?) semicolons with modern
punctuation.
You see, several of the books were dictated onto tape and then later
transcribed by someone other than L. Ron Hubbard. As a result, the
choice of punctuation was left up to the transcriber. Remember, this
was back in 1951.
For information about the revisions, you should watch the event video.