Data filed with the Manistee, Michigan City Planning Commission last year offers an inside look at Narconon Stone Hawk's staffing levels, student population, and finances:
Dave Touretzky wrote: > Data filed with the Manistee, Michigan City Planning Commission last > year offers an inside look at Narconon Stone Hawk's staffing levels, > student population, and finances:
Medical Personnel Registered nurse will be at the facility on staff 24/7 Two physicians will be on site 2 times a week and on call One licensed Psychologist ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Has anyone told the planning commission Scientology's actual stance on Psychologists and mental health in general? This is so blatantly a lie and needs to be pointed out and explained fully.
K Palmer wrote: > Dave Touretzky wrote: >> Data filed with the Manistee, Michigan City Planning Commission last >> year offers an inside look at Narconon Stone Hawk's staffing levels, >> student population, and finances:
> Medical Personnel > Registered nurse will be at the facility on staff 24/7 > Two physicians will be on site 2 times a week and on call > One licensed Psychologist > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I had two licenced psychologists as staffs in my Lyon Org... but they did not exert psychology then. Just scientology.
Not unlike the MDs in scientology orgs!
Other points:
the price is now of 27000 dollars/person there? wow. There must be some lack of clients to have caused such an increase from 15000 dollars two years ago, if my memory serves. Or they have to make reserve to hold two years without a client? Or they pay an enormous insurances bill ?
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Demographics part pretends that : "Demographics were completed compiling the information collected in biannual retrospective studies as required by the State of Michigan. This data reflects the period of January 2003 (when Stone Hawk first opened) to March 2006.
A total of 743 individuals entered the program with a total of 579 completions (graduates) by March 30, 2006. Of the 164 that did not complete, the following is their accountability:" --[ 77,93% had completed the program? bizarrely, 311 of these 743 people would have been clients in 2005, 210 in 2004, and only 100 in 2003, total 621 of the 743 clients in three years
and they come from:
a.. Alcohol (27%) 201 b.. Crystal Meth (11%) 82 c.. Heroin (16%) 119 d.. Crack/Cocaine (25%) 186 e.. Methamphetamines (5%) 37 f.. Methadone (6%) 45 g.. Marijuana (1%) 7 h.. Oxycotin (5%) 37 i.. Other including Xanex (4%) 30 j.. Cross Addicted (1 or more of the above drug) 89% 661 [I'd like to know how what drugs the cross addicts had taken.] .../... Racial count: "Caucasian 76% Native American 3% African American 6% Asian 2% Mexican 7% Other 6%" .../... [Bizarre salaries counts: everyone would be paid at $7,50 minimum per hour? I wonder if any scientologist has ever been paid that much. Now, I can't see how such a 100 max people facility needs three dishwashers; how it could get 9 nurses: who would accept the scientology system, and who in scn could hope to get $23,50 per hour (nurse salary there). Second large post of salaries is... 12 security officers : cost: 196500 dollars. Total of the staffs -64??- does not fit to other totals given in other pages [supposedly 105 staffs for 100 clients -- also contradict another passage with supposedly 120 staffs for 311 clients].
GI: for the year 2005, 311 people supposedly paid 8,325.212. That's indeed 26769 per head, not far from the 27000 they give otherwise. I wonder if the refunds are shown somewhere.
Note as well their confuse explanation of how their GI is much more encompassing than its figures say, with a calculation method that I'd like to see explained:
"However, the aggregate economic impact of an organization such has Stone Hawk is much more that just the total amount that it and its employees, students, visitors, and other guests spend in the area. It also encompasses the impact of this money as it gets spent and re-spent in the local area, in effect rippling out through the community. In order to capture this ripple effect, it is necessary to use a technique such as regional multiplier analysis." Here is how they explain the miracle: "The $4.9 million in direct spending in 2005 generates additional millions of dollars in the region, bring the total area spending to over $8 million this year. "
Moreover surprising an announcement when it comes from a non-profit which is tax-exempt... a fact that does not stop Narconon execs to write that a "TIA Corporation, owner of the property... pays $53,000 in taxes. $ 53,000 taxes on a 8,5 million GI is not too bad, yes, particularly since Narconon pays much more than a dime to its ABLE and RTC's copyrights and trademarks owner (books, services paid to Bridge, to RTC etc). My estimated payments to the cult: 1,5 million in 2005. " Now a question of great interest could be to find out who's behind the TIA corporation... is that something cruise made up? Is it a placement by the dwarf of his own 1 to 15 % of the sales made to Cruise or others?? I did not find anything significative on this "corp" on the web. What is is, where it is, all this is mysterious.
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now the rules. I recommend that ARSers read them, that's similar to rules one would find in prisons or hospitals' parts for prisoners, and that'e even worse, because if a prisoner destroys something or what in the building, he won't have to pay money for it; he won't either have to pay if he contests a result of a drug analysis done on him "randomly"... The staff is even confiscating the food coming from home, which is also worse than in prisons. Also the scientology "PTS/SP handling is contained in such as: "Phone calls from or to students who have been suspended or left prior to completion of the program is prohibited". Art is also ridden when the cult does not like it: " Music with obscene lyrics and vulgar language will be confiscated and returned to you upon leaving." (I wonder if Juliette Lewis is allowed!). Same for mail: outcoming and incoming mails are to be inspected. No money allowed either...and also worse than in prison, the authorization to go to one's own church on sundays can be forbidden by the "ethics officer"! that's a gulag, yes.
I'm disgusted. If such ways were applied by such people in France, they could be jailed up to 15 years. =========
> Dave Touretzky wrote: >> Data filed with the Manistee, Michigan City Planning Commission last >> year offers an inside look at Narconon Stone Hawk's staffing levels, >> student population, and finances:
> Medical Personnel > Registered nurse will be at the facility on staff 24/7 > Two physicians will be on site 2 times a week and on call > One licensed Psychologist > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Has anyone told the planning commission Scientology's actual stance on > Psychologists and mental health in general? This is so blatantly a lie and > needs to be pointed out and explained fully.
> Data filed with the Manistee, Michigan City Planning Commission last > year offers an inside look at Narconon Stone Hawk's staffing levels, > student population, and finances:
> Perhaps someone would like to go through this and post a summary > of the most interesting parts?
> Thanks to an anonymous elf for providing this document.
Stated:
"Medical Personnel
Registered nurse will be at the facility on staff 24/7 Two physicians will be on site 2 times a week and on call One licensed Psychologist"
In the 2007 Wage SUmmary, they account for nurses, but no doctors or psychologist.
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Stated:
"Will provide 12 scholarships annually to residents in Manistee County"
redefinition for procurement?
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Stated:
"Private pay - they do not bill insurance company, individuals can bill themselves"
Stated in 2007 Wage Summary:
"Medical Biller x 1 2080 hrs x $11.00 per hour = 22,800.00"
LRH degreed? medical? They don't have a medical permit do they? and What insurance pays for Narconon - isn't this misleading?
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Consensus of the Commissioners in attendance was that they felt the use was similar to both an Education Facility and Nursing Home or Convalescent Home (previous use). While the new Zoning Ordinance R-3 Residential Zoning District requires that both of these Special Uses front on a Key Street they Previous use of a Nursing Home could exempt the requirement as a continuation of a previous use.
Staff was directed to take the Regulations for both Section 1837 Educational Facility and Section 1862 Nursing Home or Convalescent Home and combine them into one list that excluded the requirement of fronting on and being accessed from a key street segment from the list.
This must be the reason for the use of the name "students." What a crock! An "educational facility?"
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Looking at the Wage proposal summary, it's hard to think they actually pay the help that much. Could they inflate these numbers out of embarassment, or to save themselves from looking like a greedy labor camp?
>> Data filed with the Manistee, Michigan City Planning Commission last >> year offers an inside look at Narconon Stone Hawk's staffing levels, >> student population, and finances:
> Looking at the Wage proposal summary, it's hard to think they > actually pay the help that much. Could they inflate these numbers out > of embarassment, or to save themselves from looking like a greedy > labor camp?
Narconon US continued to be the management organization and after a few weeks of letting me get used to running NNCT, they started up on wanting 10% of all the government money.
I wrote up a very long and very clear report explaining to them that they could not have a percentage of the government money because it would be illegal. The money can only be spent on those line items for which the allocation was approved.
Those line items that were approved by the grant were for:
I could not just spend the government grants any which way I wanted, I had to follow the contract or risk breaking the law and being denied any future government grants.
I thought I finally got this duplicated by the people at NN US (which was being run by the US Guardians Office) and then I got an order to pay the 10 % out of the Salary allotment. Narconon US wanted me to write each staff member a pay check and then each staff member, was supposed to donate back that amount that would equal 10 percent. <more>
>> Data filed with the Manistee, Michigan City Planning Commission last >> year offers an inside look at Narconon Stone Hawk's staffing levels, >> student population, and finances:
>> Perhaps someone would like to go through this and post a summary >> of the most interesting parts?
>> Thanks to an anonymous elf for providing this document.
> Stated:
> "Medical Personnel
> Registered nurse will be at the facility on staff 24/7 > Two physicians will be on site 2 times a week and on call > One licensed Psychologist"
> In the 2007 Wage SUmmary, they account for nurses, but no doctors or > psychologist.
Yeah, they are lying as usual. They put in that they will have one licensed psychologist so it looks like the are complying with the state licensing requirements or possible funding/insurance requirements, but they have no intention of hiring or using one as it would be against policy. >
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> Stated:
> "Will provide 12 scholarships annually to residents in Manistee > County" > redefinition for procurement?
Again, this is said to comply to some sort or regulation that they have no intention of complying to.
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> Stated:
> "Private pay - they do not bill insurance company, individuals can > bill themselves" > Stated in 2007 Wage Summary:
> "Medical Biller x 1 2080 hrs x $11.00 per hour = 22,800.00"
> LRH degreed? medical? They don't have a medical permit do they? > and > What insurance pays for Narconon - isn't this misleading?
> Consensus of the Commissioners in attendance was that they felt the > use was similar to both an Education Facility and Nursing Home or > Convalescent Home (previous use). While the new Zoning Ordinance R-3 > Residential Zoning District requires that both of these Special Uses > front on a Key Street they Previous use of a Nursing Home could > exempt the requirement as a continuation of a previous use. > Staff was directed to take the Regulations for both Section 1837 > Educational Facility and Section 1862 Nursing Home or Convalescent > Home and combine them into one list that excluded the requirement of > fronting on and being accessed from a key street segment from the > list.
> This must be the reason for the use of the name "students." What a > crock! An "educational facility?"
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> Looking at the Wage proposal summary, it's hard to think they > actually pay the help that much. Could they inflate these numbers out > of embarassment, or to save themselves from looking like a greedy > labor camp?
On Mar 16, 10:19 pm, d...@cs.cmu.edu (Dave Touretzky) wrote:
> Data filed with the Manistee, Michigan City Planning Commission last > year offers an inside look at Narconon Stone Hawk's staffing levels, > student population, and finances:
Ray Hill took up Barbz suggestion to make a page of all the number crunching he's doing and the additional info others are provding him on Narconon Stone Hawk 's IRS form 990 returns. Here are the links:
> Now a question of great interest could be to find out who's behind the > TIA corporation... is that something cruise made up? Is it a placement > by the dwarf of his own 1 to 15 % of the sales made to Cruise or > others?? I did not find anything significative on this "corp" on the > web. What is is, where it is, all this is mysterious.
I posted this in another thread, but since it was brought up here, I'll provide the info. TIA Corporation was formed by Per and Kate back in 2002. It's "nature of business" as described in their annual reports is Real Estate. I believe all of the StoneHawk properties are owned by TIA Corporation, and then StoneHawk rents/leases the properties from TIA. I assume this would be for liability purposes so the greatest asset of StoneHawk (its properties and buildings) would not be assets should they be sued.
Their articles of incorporation and annual reports can be found at the State of Michigan website: http://www.dleg.state.mi.us/bcs_corp/sr_corp.asp You can then search by typing in TIA, or their ID# 31217C
StoneHawk is a seperate corporate entity, its ID# is 770372, but if you search under narconon, you can also find the now defunct narconon's that were kicked out of the Michigan prison system back in the early 80's.