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Tigger

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Nov 21, 2009, 9:38:34 AM11/21/09
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Scientology targets young kids
By Rosie Squires From: The Sunday Telegraph November 22, 2009 12:00AM

THE NSW Government has warned principals about a Church of Scientology
attempt to infiltrate primary schools with propaganda videos and
booklets aimed at Year 6 students.

The Sunday Telegraph has learned an organisation called Youth for
Human Rights, which is sponsored by the controversial group, sent an
educational DVD about human rights to schools last month.

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Eldon

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Astrid

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:36:04 AM11/21/09
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On Nov 21, 7:38 am, Tigger <Tiggerinthe...@webtv.net> wrote:
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Yes! This is exactly the kind of thing they need to bring on.
Investigate and uncover the depth to which Scientology wants to
penetrate education, business, medicine and government. They want your
kid, to read Hubbard's name, and think he's right up there with MLK
and Gandhi. And Scientology will seep in like poison, in any innocent
disguise they can adopt to get your mind and money.

They are like the candy store of mind control.

Hartley Patterson

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Tiggeri...@webtv.net says:

> The Sunday Telegraph has learned an organisation called Youth for
> Human Rights, which is sponsored by the controversial group, sent an
> educational DVD about human rights to schools last month.

Insanity. They KNEW the Senator was gunning for them, they KNEW a cabal of
high level traitors was in touch with him, yet they persisted in trying to
spread Scientology in SCHOOLS. After being caught California, Canada and
the UK doing it, and being thrown out.

Rational people do not do this. Someone says "better keep our noses clean
for a while mates".

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Tigger

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I just made a comment about Narconon in Oklahoma....since I'm from
Oklahoma and know Bob Lobsinger. :0)

Someone needs to make a comment about THE WAY TO HAPPINESS and STUDY
TECH. Two comments from two different people would IMO be
best......One addressing Study Tech with UrL to the Professor's
excellent website on it and one on The Way to Happiness and url to San
Francisco Chronicle (?) articles.

Tigger

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> Quote:
>
> Scientology targets young kids
> By Rosie Squires From: The Sunday Telegraph November 22, 2009 12:00AM
>
> THE NSW Government has warned principals about a Church of Scientology
> attempt to infiltrate primary schools with propaganda videos and
> booklets aimed at Year 6 students.
>
> The Sunday Telegraph has learned an organisation called Youth for
> Human Rights, which is sponsored by the controversial group, sent an
> educational DVD about human rights to schools last month.

If Obama can do it with impunity why not Scientology?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi4VhcjY2rE


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Maureen

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This is what $cientology can do to those kids:

-----

Source: The Mail - London
29 July 1984


Hubbard Youth

The teenage bullies who reign supreme over a sinister cult.

It is the Children of Scientology who run the cult today, strutting
young acolytes who shout abuse and instil other followers an awe
bordering on fear. "Some of them act like the Nazi youth," says 14-
year-old Gulliver Smithers who walked out of Saint Hill, the cult's
East Grinstead headquarters in disgust six weeks ago. "they are
arrogant bullies who must be obeyed."

They wear U.S naval uniform with a distinctive blue lanyard around the
neck which marks them out as members of the Commodore Messenger
Organisation - children to be feared.

Devotion

The Messengers are young, very young. Three are just 14, one is only
nine. Even their leaders are only in their early 20's - children
weaned into adulthood on Scientology and devotion to the cult's
founder L Ron Hubbard.

They have been given the reins of power by a signed edict from
Hubbard, a recluse whom many believe may be dead. It says that no
Messenger may be told what to do, unless by a senior within the group.
At Saint Hill the children are all powerful. They hand out work
targets, jobs to be done within a specific time. Failure to obey or
achieve can mean a black mark on internal files and loss of status.
Worse, offenders receive harsh work duties. A Messenger can hand out
"sentences" of up to six months' menial labour. Gulliver said: "This
means six months, seven days a week, cleaning or emptying rubbish. The
work begins at seven in the morning and goes on until four in the
afternoon with only two half-hour breaks.

Now he is an outcast of the organisation, working in a community of
other disaffected Scientologists at a country house near Aberdeen. In
his sparsely furnished room in the Scottish hideaway he keeps his "E-
meter", used by Scientologists to measure electrical impulses around
the body and thus, they claim, diagnose what is troubling fellow cult
members.

Gulliver said: "I knew right from the start what sort of power they
had and what I could demand from other Scientologists. I tried not to
be too unpleasant, but others above us in the Messengers shouted and
demanded results. the kids felt they had to do the same. They are
strange children, who have led a life sheltered within Scientology.
Some are not very clever and the church has influenced their minds."

Struggle

The Messengers were born out of a power struggle in the late 70s when
the leadership was overthrown by a new second generation of "Super-
Scientologists".

One to suffer under the change was American Jay Hurwitz, 42, of
Sharpthorne, Sussex, a former senior executive at Saint Hill, and
another independent Scientologist, who agreed with the Hitler youth
description. He revealed that the changes had also resulted in
financial upheavals and a sharp increase in course fees. Just over 12
hours of Scientology training now can cost nearly UKP5,000.

Morale at Saint Hill is low. The dormitory accommodation, poor food
and wages of UKP4 a week, sometimes unpaid, give the place the air of
a run-down youth hostel, Gulliver says. And documents handed to The
Mail on Sunday confirm that the crude practice of "disconnection" -
cutting off a dissenter from family and friends -has been
reintroduced. "Disconnection is part of everyday life at Saint Hill."
Gulliver said. "It goes round by word of mouth when someone is an
outcast. He or she is just ignored and shunned. It was what we were
brought up to do."

[a related story appearing above the foregoing text and with a smaller
headline:]

Scientology leader is ordered: Stay away

The head of the Church of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard, whose
organisation was described by a High Court judge as "dangerous,
immoral, sinister and corrupt", has been ordered to stay away from
Britain.

The 74-year-old recluse, himself declared a "charlatan" by the judge,
had hoped to reverse a Home Office ruling which barred him from coming
to this country to address his followers at the British headquarters
in East Grinstead, Sussex. But when he refused to talk to British
immigration officials who wanted to question him about a fraud
conviction in France, the Home Office re-affirmed its decision to keep
Hubbard out.

His elusiveness has fuelled stories that Hubbard is, in fact, dead.
His own son unsuccessfully argued this before a U.S. court in an
attempt to share his father's vast fortune and Hubbard's attorney has
said that his dealings with Hubbard are "sporadic". Scientology, which
has 200,000 followers in Britain, was attacked in the High Court last
week during a "tug-of-love" child custody case.

The judge, Mr Justice Latey, said that the tactics used by Hubbard and
his helpers are "grimly reminiscent of the ranting and bullying of
Hitler and his henchmen".

This was echoed this week by one disenchanted teenage Scientologist
who told The Mail on Sunday that Hubbard's young acolytes "behave like
the Nazi youth". This is his story."

From: http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/england/the-mail-uk.htm

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Maureen

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On Nov 22, 3:12 am, Hartley Patterson <hptt...@daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
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> Insanity.

Jeebus Gov'nah! Are you channelling Albert Einstein or what?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results.
Albert Einstein

Unwitting high-schoolers lured to forum run by Scientologists
Anna Patty Education Editor

March 28, 2007

HUMAN rights youth forum at Parliament House in Sydney promoted the
views of the Scientology founder, L. Ron Hubbard, and was organised by
a group linked to the Church of Scientology.

In a kit given to students, Hubbard's photograph was more prominent
than those of the human rights activists Martin Luther King, Mahatma
Gandhi, Nelson Mandela and Thomas Jefferson. Hubbard's quotes were
littered through the material.

The Church of Scientology is the major sponsor of Youth for Human
Rights Australia, the group that organised the youth seminar on March
20 in the NSW Parliament Theatrette.

Three students from Canterbury Girls High School were in the audience.
Each felt concerned at overt references to Scientology.

Alice Craven, 17, the school captain at Canterbury Girls, said she
felt exploited because the forum's link to the Church of Scientology
was not disclosed in promotional material sent to teachers and
students.

"I feel exploited and taken advantage of and am worried other people
at the event may have taken it as a serious human rights forum, when
it was pushing a Scientology agenda," she said. "Alarm bells began to
ring when I noticed a large poster on the stage … emblazoned with a
quote from L. Ron Hubbard."

She said students were asked to sign a human rights pledge and given
application forms to join the organisation at cost of $10.

The Department of Education is looking into the students' complaints.

The Liberal MP and powerbroker David Clarke, a member of the Catholic
group Opus Dei, addressed the forum and secured the venue for the
organisers. Mr Clarke said he was happy to support the human rights
cause and had been unaware of any strong links between the youth forum
and the Church of Scientology.

"I'm a practising Catholic," he said. "There was no pushing as far as
I could see of Scientology."

A spokesman for Youth for Human Rights, Nigel Mannock, said he was a
Scientologist but the youth forum had promoted human rights, not
Scientology.

"If there was a photograph of L. Ron Hubbard on the material it was
because of what he said about human rights," Mr Mannock said.

"We do get support from the Church of Scientology, among other people,
and a number of people who happen to be Scientologists are in it.

"It is not a Scientology organisation. We think L. Ron Hubbard was a
good supporter of human rights."

A spokesman for the NSW Department of Education said it was
disappointed that the "full nature" of the youth forum was not
disclosed to students.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/unwitting-highschoolers-lured-to-forum-run-by-scientologists/2007/03/27/1174761471748.html


> They KNEW the Senator was gunning for them, they KNEW a cabal of
> high level traitors was in touch with him, yet they persisted in trying to
> spread Scientology in SCHOOLS. After being caught California, Canada and
> the UK doing it, and being thrown out.

But but but but, they are the *only* hope for mankind and the only
way of this trap

=oP

> Rational people do not do this. Someone says "better keep our noses clean
> for a while mates".

Uh, ya such a 'wog'

Astrid

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:12:33 PM11/21/09
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On Nov 21, 2:06 pm, Maureen <lermanet...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sounds like Lord of the Flies meets an insane asylum.
>
> From:http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/england/the-mail-uk.htm
>
> Maureen

Steve Sargent

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Maureen

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On Nov 22, 10:59 pm, "Steve Sargent" <sarg...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
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Grieving family urges Scientology probe
November 23, 2009 - 2:09PM

AAP

For the three days leading up to soldier Edward McBride's suicide, his
family say he was bombarded by telephone calls and texts from Church
of Scientology members.

The family believe the church played a major role in his death but
have spent the past two years without answers or recourse.

Now they've urged the federal government to initiate an inquiry into
the controversial religious group, under fire following recent
allegations of blackmail, sanctioned beatings, forced abortions and
financial fraud.

Independent senator Nick Xenophon last week made a scathing
parliamentary attack on Scientology, accusing it of using religion as
a front for criminal activities.

He wants the organisation to be investigated by parliament - a call
which has so far won the backing of the Australian Greens, but not the
government or opposition.

Senator Xenophon and Greens leader Bob Brown on Monday flanked Mr
McBride's brother Stephen as he appealed directly to the prime
minister to support a formal inquiry.

Police investigating his younger brother's death in 2007 had been
stymied by the church, which failed to provide personal audit files as
requested, Stephen McBride said.

"Every time I think of Scientology I still get a real bad aftertaste
in my mouth," he told reporters in Canberra.

"There's something just not right about it."

Mr McBride was adamant the church contributed to his brother's
suicide, with the coroner reporting the telephone messages contained
intimidating statements, such as "this behaviour is unacceptable" and
"you have missed your interview".

He had spent $25,000 on Scientology courses in his time with the
church.

"The bombardment of 19 telephone messages backed him into a corner
with no room to breathe," Mr McBride said.

"We've been through hell the last two years - please don't let my
brother's death be in vain."

Senator Xenophon has yet to win the support of the government, despite
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd saying last week he also had concerns about
Scientology.

"It doesn't seem the numbers are there yet, but I will continue to
build my case," he said, adding this was not a crusade against freedom
of religion.

"This is a hell of a week and I think we are distracted with other
issues, but I think it's inevitable there will be an inquiry one way
or the other."

Senator Brown, who labelled Scientology a cult, said he would be angry
if the government and coalition quashed any move for an inquiry.

Lawrence

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"Maureen" <lerma...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Maureen:

Like I mentioned to Arnaldo the other day, this situation in Australia has
been going on since the 1960's but it never summits.

There is always a controversy over Scientology, an allegation but
never a decision. Has Scientology been secretly owning the Australian
government behind everyone's back?

I say that because the assault against Scientology in both Germany and
Russia for example has only been going on a fraction of the time that
Scientology has been in trouble in Australia, but both the German and
the Russian anti Scientology fronts have made considerably more
headway in much less time.

--
Read "The Diary Of A Scientologist"

http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/

Larry

Eldon

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:03:14 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 23, 6:20 am, "Lawrence" <xxxxxxx...@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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Go read your history. Scientology was banned in part of Australia for
some time, but was banned in Victoria from 1965 until 1982 and in
Western Australia from 1968 until 1972. They fought it in court and
got the bans reversed, but that's quite a long time.

Lawrence

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That is what I mean Eldon, it's not consistent.

First there is a ban in one sector, and then it is reversed,
nothing blanket or permanent comes out of it like in
Germany where it is a nationwide event what laws
are passed about Scientology.

Eldon

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On Nov 23, 3:35 pm, "Lawrence" <xxxxxxx...@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
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That's because Germany is fairly statist where these matters are
concerned. The "independent" city of Hamburg and the Bavarian
"government" can do their own things to a certain extent, though.
France is almost entirely monolithic, with very little regional
autonomy.

Australia, on the other hand, is a federation of several "territories"
that are almost like separate countries -- with far more "states'
rights" than the 50 now largely redundant and inefficient United
States. I mean, would anybody really object if North and South Dakota
decided to consolidate a bunch of their governmental functions like
education, transportation and social services? Australia is moving
toward greater federalism, but it will take awhile.

Lawrence

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"Eldon" <Eldo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> That's because Germany is fairly statist where these matters are
> concerned. The "independent" city of Hamburg and the Bavarian
> "government" can do their own things to a certain extent, though.
> France is almost entirely monolithic, with very little regional
> autonomy.
>
> Australia, on the other hand, is a federation of several "territories"
> that are almost like separate countries -- with far more "states'
> rights" than the 50 now largely redundant and inefficient United
> States. I mean, would anybody really object if North and South Dakota
> decided to consolidate a bunch of their governmental functions like
> education, transportation and social services? Australia is moving
> toward greater federalism, but it will take awhile.

Yes, well these things can go on.

Is it worth the wait Eldon? {just kidding}

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