Times are tough for cults
David Lesher
Church disunity, recession worry Moon followers and operations
By Ian Shapira and Michelle Boorstein Washington Post Staff Writers
Monday, November 23, 2009
Inside the imposing Unification Church in Adams Morgan, past the lobby
photograph of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon on a fishing yacht, soothing
melodies beckoned worshipers Sunday morning. Churchgoers listened to a
recorded sermon by Moon's daughter, In Jin Moon, about a Harvard study on
happiness, then nodded along as Senior Pastor Zagery J. Oliver asserted
that "true happiness" comes from "who we are."
But outside the church walls, the quest for inner contentment is
overshadowed by a fractious Moon family dispute. This month's abrupt
purging of top executives at the Washington Times, which Moon founded
and subsidized, and downturns at some Moon-connected businesses in the
Washington area have rattled some Unificationists already worried about
what will happen to their movement after the passing of its 89-year-old
founder.
....
The ranks of the church's U.S. followers have thinned since the
movement's heyday in the 1970s, according to church officials. In an
attempt to retain young members, the church recently liberalized its
marriage policies so parents, not just clergy, can match men and women
to take part in the movement's mass weddings. Worldwide, the church
has about 110,000 "adherents," according to a report in the Times in
October. Church officials, however, have cited membership figures in the
millions in recent weeks.
....
In the Washington area, several organizations with ties to the church
have suffered financially over the past year, including Moon's media
holding company, News World Communications, which owns the Washington
Times, the United Press International wire service and the Atlantic Video
TV production facility.
As of August 2008, analysts estimated that Moon had subsidized the
Times by at least $1 billion since it was launched in 1982; analysts have
also estimated that the newspaper has lost close to $2 billion since it
was founded.
"The Moons have a lot of businesses that don't make money, and they
are having to shutter the losing businesses," said Richard Miniter, 42,
the recently departed Times editorial page editor and vice president.
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Lawrence
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Yeah, but you notice something? You never hear about the Moonies
hiding in people's elevator shafts waiting for them to come home,
or tearing their screen doors off of their houses and leaving a note
behind that says "Don't forget to lock yourself in" like one *may*
hear about Scientologists.
The worst thing the Moonies do is get married 5,000 people at a time.
Big deal, that would be something if they all had their kids baptisms
on the same days as well.
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Larry
Astrid
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/22/AR200...>
> l
> Church disunity, recession worry Moon followers and operations
Instead of Newspapers, they should have invested in Hollywood stars,
like Sciloontology.
They could merge and call themselves the Moonbats.
Maureen
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/22/AR200...>
>
No paper, no advertisers. How they gonna make war without supported
propaganda?
E-Republic, $cn Inc. will soon be next. Makes the gubmint sound like
a cult, surrounded
by cults papers.....With the likes of 'Operation Celebrity' and all
that.
The 'net subscription pays off, heh.
Maureen
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Eldon
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/22/AR200...>
>
Those membership figures are interesting. Looks like Moonism still has
more than twice as many souls as Scientology (not counting BTs), and
inflates its membership figures somewhat less. Looks like Falun Dafa
may legitimately be the world's largest cult, even after being
repressed in China.
>
> ....
>
> In the Washington area, several organizations with ties to the church
> have suffered financially over the past year, including Moon's media
> holding company, News World Communications, which owns the Washington
> Times, the United Press International wire service and the Atlantic Video
> TV production facility.
>
> As of August 2008, analysts estimated that Moon had subsidized the
> Times by at least $1 billion since it was launched in 1982; analysts have
> also estimated that the newspaper has lost close to $2 billion since it
> was founded.
>
> "The Moons have a lot of businesses that don't make money, and they
> are having to shutter the losing businesses," said Richard Miniter, 42,
> the recently departed Times editorial page editor and vice president.
>
> --
> A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8...@nrk.com
Hartley Patterson
> > Worldwide, the church
> > has about 110,000 "adherents," according to a report in the Times in
> > October. Church officials, however, have cited membership figures in the
> > millions in recent weeks.
>
> Those membership figures are interesting. Looks like Moonism still has
> more than twice as many souls as Scientology (not counting BTs), and
> inflates its membership figures somewhat less. Looks like Falun Dafa
> may legitimately be the world's largest cult, even after being
> repressed in China.
I've been looking for that data for ages. Here it is:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/14/rev-sun-myung-moon-passes-
the-torch/
The "universal peace blessing" ceremony, transmitted over the Internet,
was performed by Rev. Moon and his wife, Hak Ja Han, at Sun Moon
University in Asan, south of Seoul. Church officials said it involved
20,000 people in Korea, 50,000 in Japan, 20,000 in the United States,
including three in the metropolitan Washington area and at 88 locations
nationwide.
The total effort reached 192 countries, church sources said, adding that
the Unification Church numbers about 110,000 adherents worldwide.
But could that be a misprint for 1,100,000?
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phil scott
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e republic is primarily the state and government distribution arm for
Oracles relational data base,
developed under CIA controact as an ultimate espionage tool. e
republics magazines sent to officials world
wide is to promote the data base ..it does not mention scn... scn
though would have full access to these data bases
world wide via the exUSGO staff and current scientolgists running 'e
republic'..
when this came out in the wired mag article about the hit on me, and
leaked to the German and french govts by critics in the EU and some
OG's, Oracle was dropped from their vendors list and SAP (germany)
hired to do virtually all of the EU data base work. The reasons were
published by nations world wide, including china... the cult of
scientology had infiltrated MS and Oracle and was using back doors for
espionage.... charges were filed... there werre more than a few
convictions... the most recent about 5 years ago in greece when top
secret military base files were found in scn file cabinets during a
raid.
Phil scott
phil scott
wrote:
> EldonB...@aol.com says:
>
> > > Worldwide, the church
> > > has about 110,000 "adherents," according to a report in the Times in
> > > October. Church officials, however, have cited membership figures in the
> > > millions in recent weeks.
>
> > Those membership figures are interesting. Looks like Moonism still has
> > more than twice as many souls as Scientology (not counting BTs), and
> > inflates its membership figures somewhat less. Looks like Falun Dafa
> > may legitimately be the world's largest cult, even after being
> > repressed in China.
>
> I've been looking for that data for ages. Here it is:
>
> the-torch/
>
> The "universal peace blessing" ceremony, transmitted over the Internet,
> was performed by Rev. Moon and his wife, Hak Ja Han, at Sun Moon
> University in Asan, south of Seoul. Church officials said it involved
> 20,000 people in Korea, 50,000 in Japan, 20,000 in the United States,
> including three in the metropolitan Washington area and at 88 locations
> nationwide.
>
> The total effort reached 192 countries, church sources said, adding that
> the Unification Church numbers about 110,000 adherents worldwide.
>
> But could that be a misprint for 1,100,000?
>
> --
> Still looking for 9,900,000 Scientologists (TM)
ok that explains the ignition module on my motor home going out.
Eldon
wrote:
> EldonB...@aol.com says:
>
> > > Worldwide, the church
> > > has about 110,000 "adherents," according to a report in the Times in
> > > October. Church officials, however, have cited membership figures in the
> > > millions in recent weeks.
>
> > Those membership figures are interesting. Looks like Moonism still has
> > more than twice as many souls as Scientology (not counting BTs), and
> > inflates its membership figures somewhat less. Looks like Falun Dafa
> > may legitimately be the world's largest cult, even after being
> > repressed in China.
>
> I've been looking for that data for ages. Here it is:
>
> the-torch/
>
> The "universal peace blessing" ceremony, transmitted over the Internet,
> was performed by Rev. Moon and his wife, Hak Ja Han, at Sun Moon
> University in Asan, south of Seoul. Church officials said it involved
> 20,000 people in Korea, 50,000 in Japan, 20,000 in the United States,
> including three in the metropolitan Washington area and at 88 locations
> nationwide.
>
> The total effort reached 192 countries, church sources said, adding that
> the Unification Church numbers about 110,000 adherents worldwide.
>
> But could that be a misprint for 1,100,000?
Why? They only accounted for 90,000 watching the big deal major event.
Anyway, cult statistics are always other worldly.
>
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