Daily Mail: Intriguing questions about Travolta nanny
Eldon
HEADLINE: Intriguing questions about the Scientologist wedding
photographer who was the main carer for John Travolta's son
Below are some excerpts, Monica, hon, do note the second paragraph
quoted here. Those damn tabloids just won't shut up no matter how much
you chastise them, well they? Is it possible they don't give a shit
about your expert opinion?
(Do read the entire article; it's lengthy and contains some pictures I
hadn't seen before.)
[NOTE: WHAT FOLLOWS IS QUOTED FROM THE ARTICLE]---->
Of course, the Travoltas have always fiercely guarded their privacy,
both because of their devotion to Scientology and because of the long-
term health problems of Jett, who they have long maintained was
damaged by Kawasaki Syndrome, a rare circulatory problem that is
seldom fatal and affects only infants.
They have repeatedly rejected the observations from a variety of
experts who believe Jett suffered from autism. His clumsiness,
inability to speak and tendency to walk on tip-toe are said to be
classic symptoms of autism - which is also often associated with
epileptic seizures.
The day after Jett died, another lawyer travelling with the Travoltas
admitted that Jett suffered seizures as regularly as every four days.
But he insisted that the Travoltas had not ignored the problem and
Jett had been treated in the past with an anti-seizure medication,
Depakote.
He said medication had been stopped several years ago because it had
‘ceased to work’ and Kelly feared it might be damaging Jett’s liver.
An Isleboro neighbour of John Travolta last night said the actor was a
devoted father: ‘Jett was his life. John was devoted to him. He would
spend hours with him watching television. John would go for walks
around the estate with Jett, always with his arm around Jett’s
shoulder.
'Sometimes he would take the boy down to their private stretch of
beach. But he would never take him out in public.
‘They had a 24-hour nanny for him. He was never left alone. He was
never left unsupervised. He needed full-time care.’
<snip>
The final mystery surrounds the injuries Jett suffered. Paramedics and
police say there was a large bruise on his forehead. Glen Campbell, an
assistant director at the funeral home that dealt with Jett’s
cremation, denied there were any signs of head trauma and insisted
Jett’s body was ‘in perfect condition’.
Beth
> www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1111838/Intriguing-questions-Sc...
Geez, they still have a link to the article they took down:
"More...
Did John Travolta's weird faith seal his son Jett's fate?"
Also, two minor points. The funeral home guy said Jett's body was in
"great" condition, not perfect. And I have read elsewhere that the
Travoltas' home in the Bahamas is a townhome, not a spacious villa. I
wonder who's right about that?
b
R. Hill
Interesting. Let me speculate: Scientologists in a position which has
the potential to create a flap (to Scientology Inc.) have to call "The
Authorities," (aka David Miscavige) when something go really wrong.
Maybe this is what they did, and The Authorities were called in, causing
quite a delay before the real authorities were called. All speculations
of course.
--
Ray.
Tom Cruise: "We are The Authorities"
Maureen
> Eldon wrote:
> >www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1111838/Intriguing-questions-Sc...
It's difficult with this cult for authorities to literally 'sequester'
witnesses, because of the amount of shore stories that can be written
of to 'rumour.'
You cannot deny a bruise on the forehead, and I note that the Kawasaki
syndrome sounds like the cult's classic form of 'malingering,' and
lying about something to manipulate the media. They have to lie to the
media, because $cientology thinks that everyone is stupid, and has to
be handled. In reality, that earns them more money as the bait and
switch confidence game, as in people have BT's, or cooties.
Maureen
"There are a number of distinctive points of difference between
hysteria and malingering, two of which it may be interesting to
mention:
1. The malingerer, conscious of his fraudulent intent and fearful of
its detection, dreads examinations. The hysteric invites examinations,
as is well known to physicians in civil practice. When he has the
opportunity he makes the rounds of clinics and physicians, especially
delighting in examinations by noted specialists.
2. The hysteric, in addition to the symptoms of which he complains,
often presents objective symptoms of which he is unaware. The
malingerer, unless of low intelligence, confines his complaints to the
disease or symptom which he has decided to stimulate.
Malingering may follow or prolong a neurosis. This is not infrequently
the case when mutism is succeeded by aphonia. In such cases the
clinical picture presents changes very apparent to the experienced
psychiatrist but it must be remembered that malingerers (like
criminals in civil life) are often very neuropathic individuals.
The gravity of malingering as a military offense in an army in the
field justifies the recommendation that no case in which the
possibility of a neurosis or psychosis exists shall be finally dealt
with until the subject is examined by a neurologist or psychiatrist.
If neuropsychiatric wards are provided in base hospitals in France as
well as in the United States, such an examination will be feasible in
practically all cases without causing undue delay. The knowledge that
malingerers are subjected to such expert examination will tend to
discourage soldiers from this practice."
Eldon
Shhhhh... maybe it's a mistake. Or they'll claim it was, acting
innocent. ;-)
>
> Also, two minor points. The funeral home guy said Jett's body was in
> "great" condition, not perfect.
He said there was no head trauma. If there was swelling and a bruise,
that's head trauma.
> And I have read elsewhere that the
> Travoltas' home in the Bahamas is a townhome, not a spacious villa. I
> wonder who's right about that?
A "villa" can actually be just about any home in the country or second
home. It doesn't have to be a palace. However, it they say it's worth
multi-millions of pounds, then it would have to be pretty impressive,
even in the Bahamas.
>
> b
Alex Clark
they'll get off as many snide comments, remarks, and articles that imply but
never directly state just how dangerous the cult is.
Of course, they may get a strongly worded response from "Piltdown Man"
asking them "Why the fuck <etc>" over and over. Bet they're shitting their
draws over that... ;-)
"Eldon" <Eldo...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:0feecfb8-57b4-44ca...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
Maureen
> Scientology made a mistake trying to censor the Daily Mail. I suspect
> they'll get off as many snide comments, remarks, and articles that imply but
> never directly state just how dangerous the cult is.
>
> Of course, they may get a strongly worded response from "Piltdown Man"
> asking them "Why the fuck <etc>" over and over. Bet they're shitting their
> draws over that... ;-)
>
>
> news:0feecfb8-57b4-44ca...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1111838/Intriguing-questions-Sc...
fwiw:
The paramedic, Bonnie Portalano, who attended to Lisa McPherson after
the 'car accident:'
was the -only one- to notice this from the autopsy pictures, (between
the time of the accident and the detective interview):
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/375274d2d624d6c3
. I'm looking under her eye. Umm...it appears...her eyes didn't really
have bags underneath them or any...you know... dark circles...none of
that. Her complexion was totally clear. But this picture presents with
like what we call a "raccoon's eye"...uh...in the medical field.,..
just bruising underneath the eye due to some type of trauma to either
the nose or... or the eyebrow bone or possibly the zygomatic...the
bone right underneath the eye...umm...where there would be some
bruising right there. It's not a great amount of bruising uh...but it
is...it's definitely there.
---
Raccon eyes are frequently seen in patients who have broken
necks....or fall?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raccoon_eyes
"Raccoon eyes (also known in the UK as panda eyes) or periorbital
ecchymosis is a sign of basal skull fracture.[1] It results from blood
from skull fracture tracking down into the soft tissue around the
eyes.
Raccoon eyes may also be a sign of disseminated neuroblastoma[2] or
amyloidosis."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_skull_fracture
"A basilar skull fracture (or Basal skull fracture) is a linear skull
fracture involving the basilar bone of the skull. The occipital bone
forms the floor of the skull, where the brain is held.
This type of fracture is rare, occurring as the only fracture in just
4% of severe head injury patients.[1][2]
Such fractures can cause tears in the sack compartments that hold the
brain, with resultant leakage of the cerebral spinal fluid (CSF) into
the ear (CSF otorrhea) or the nose (CSF rhinorrhea). These signs are
pathognomonic for basilar skull fracture.[3]
Basilar skull fractures can be caused by a blow to the back of the
head, or by sudden deceleration of torso but not head (as in traffic
accidents), resulting in separation of the suture between the
occipital and temporal bones."
---
Medical examiner Joan Wood now is calling the 1995 death of
Scientologist Lisa McPherson an " accident ," a change that is causing
prosecutors to rethink their case against the Church of Scientology.
Wood's original ruling called the manner of death "
undetermined ." (SP Times, February 23, 2000)
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/room174.html
--
Maureen
Beth
I wasn't talking about the condition of Jett's head, I was just
correcting the language used to describe it. The initial reports
quoting the funeral home guy said "great condition," not "perfect
condition." Sloppy journalism by the Daily Mail. (Unless they are
right and the initial reports misquoted him.)
b
Piltdown Man
Beth <moont...@yahoo.com> wrote...
<snip>
>
> I wasn't talking about the condition of Jett's head, I was just
> correcting the language used to describe it. The initial reports
> quoting the funeral home guy said "great condition," not "perfect
> condition." Sloppy journalism by the Daily Mail. (Unless they are
> right and the initial reports misquoted him.)
You're forgetting three things:
1. You're talking about the Daily Mail here. Accusing the Daily Mail of
engaging in sloppy journalism is like accusing McDonalds of selling cheap
hamburgers, or accusing Apple of manufacturing computers. It's a rather
nasty, populist right-wing tabloid that likes to pretend it's a real
newspaper.
2. All British tabloids, and sometimes even real newspapers, when reporting
about Americans often translate their Americanese into proper English,
usually not indicating that they're printing a translation, and often even
putting those translations between quotation marks, even though they
clearly never came out of the mouths of Americans in exactly those words.
3. European tabloids in general tend to be extremely sloppy when reporting
about American celebrities. Although the British ones like the Daily Mail
have to be slightly more careful, since sometimes what they write does
reach the people they're writing about. The ones elsewhere in Europe,
published in any language that isn't English, can make up pretty much
anything they like. Their chances of getting sued about even the grossest
fabrications are quite minimal. They're much, much more careful when
they're writing about home-grown celebrities. So they just rehash and
embellish stuff from American gossip rags, and these days increasingly from
web-only gossip outlets. It makes for cheap and mostly legally risk-free
page-filler.