I tried to find it once before and couldn't.
I saw
many people
reduced to
incoherent babbling,
stripping off clothes,
crawling around on the ground,
banging heads, limbs and other body parts
against furniture and walls,
barking,
losing all sense of one's identity
and intense and persistent suicidal ideation.
--Declaration of Andre Tabayoyon
http://www.holysmoke.org/sm/tabayoyon.htm
I'm an OT.--Lisa McPherson
http://www.holysmoke.org/lm/lm062.htm
If you imagine 40-50 Scientologists
posting on the Internet every few days,
we'll just run the SP's right off the system.
It will be quite simple, actually.
--Elaine Siegel, OSA INT (1996)
http://www.skeptictank.org/handlars.htm
Case 5/BTLA/SP1/BAD
KSJ
(And, BTW: Xenu Xenu Xenu!)
>Eg, the one with her weight right before she was released into Co$'
>"care"?
>I tried to find it once before and couldn't.
There are a number of ER docs available.
http://www.lisafiles.com/chron/1995/index.html
Look for everything on December 5, 1995.
Same page and url, but wrong date. Look for November 18, 1995.
Both of those should be all the ER records we have.
> Eg, the one with her weight right before she was released into Co$'
> "care"?
>
> I tried to find it once before and couldn't.
I don't recall it coming across ars. I'm going to guess that they didn't
weigh Lisa McPherson in that exam. Far as I can tell the hospital staff
estimated her weight at 150-155 pounds and the cult estimated it at 135.
The autopsy shows weight at death 17 days later was 108. It was quite a
crash diet no matter who you ask.
As we know, cult logs show she ingested virtually nothing. I notice a
program and interview on Court TV once mentioned police estimated a 47
pound weight loss. Here's a chunk of an article from St. Petersburg
Times Jul 2, 1977 that might help source that:
While investigators know McPherson weighed 108 pounds at the time of her
autopsy, it has not been revealed how much she weighed when she entered
the Fort Harrison. One clue comes from Bonita Portolano, the paramedic
who took McPherson to Morton Plant Hospital after McPherson took off her
clothes at the scene of the auto accident. Portolano, now a nurse at
Bayfront Medical Center, said in a recent sworn statement that McPherson
appeared to weigh 155 pounds. When pressed by a church attorney, she
said 155 was a guess. But she also said she spent 30 minutes with a
fully naked McPherson and described her as a tall, "voluptuous" and
"well-formed" woman who "carried some weight with her." An aunt who
collected McPherson's belongings says she found a wardrobe of size 11
and 12 clothes, with the exception of one size 10 dress. The aunt also
said McPherson's shoes were size 10 and that her underwear was size 7.
McPherson was 5 feet 9 inches tall. Church of Scientology lawyers argue
that the term "average nutritional status" was used in the autopsy
report to describe McPherson's body. They also say pictures of McPherson
shortly before she entered the Fort Harrison indicate she did not weigh
as much as her clothing sizes would indicate. Said Weinberg: "She was
thinner than that."
+++
Perhaps the most definitive document I've seen on this topic is:
COUNTY COURT OR CIRCUIT COURT - CRIMINAL DIVISION
PINELLAS COUNTY, FLORIDA
STATE OF FLORIDA V. CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY,
FLAG SERVICE ORGANIZATION, INC.
BEFORE ME, A NOTARY PUBLIC, personally appeared Special Agent A. L.
Strope of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, who being duly
sworn says:
[...]
Lisa consented to be taken to Morton Plant Hospital, which was
a short distance away. Portolano estimated Lisa's weight at over 150 lbs.
Your Affiant is aware of this information by reading the investigative
reports of the officers involved and the transcript of taped interview of
paramedic Portolano given to Clearwater Detective Suddler and the
transcript of her deposition given in a related civil case.
+++
I see in a court document by Bernie McCabe it says:
RESPONSE _TO DEFENSE MOTION TO DISMISS BASED
UPON THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT
[...]
The five foot
eight McPherson, whose weight eighteen days earlier had been
estimated at 150 pounds by paramedics and 135 pounds' by one of
her caretakers, weighed approximately 108 pounds at the time of
autopsy. Her sunken eyes and cheeks and her dry skin reflected a
gaunt appearance consistent with her severe dehydration.
[...]
She was estimated to be 150 lbs. by paramedic Bonnie
Portolano at the time of the accident and weighed approximately
108 pounds at autopsy. Janis Johnson acknowledged that on the day
of her death Lisa looked very thin, as if she had lost weight
and appeared to be "majorly" or very dehydrated prior to being
taken to the hospital. Johnson described Lisa's skin and sunken
eyes as indicating the degree of her dehydration. Dr. Minkoff
also indicated she looked "horrific" when she arrived at the
Columbia NPR emergency room and appeared to be severely
dehydrated. Despite generic language in the autopsy report that
Lisa was of "average nutritional status" it is clear from Dr.
Davis' testimony that he felt she showed obvious physical
symptoms of dehydration. Davis describes a "Hippocratic Facies"
as being present. This term, normally used to denote the "face"
of death, is used (or misused) by Davis to describe the sunken
facial expressions, gaunt look and texture of the skin indicative
of significant dehydration. The autopsy photos confirm these
observations.
+++
To counter all this on the subject of weight, and to convince M.E. Wood
to change her official report, among other things the cult called in a
"body measurement expert". Where do they find these guys? From SP Times
Feb. 23, 2000:
Findings from a body measurement expert hired by the church. The
expert compared autopsy photos of McPherson with those taken in
happier times, just before she became psychotic and entered the Fort
Harrison. The expert concluded there was "no appreciable weight loss,"
which counters the prosecution's view that McPherson lost 20 to 40
pounds while in Scientology's care.
--
LYING IS A SCIENTOLOGY SACRAMENT
ASK THEM ABOUT XENU
Remember Lisa McPherson