Hubbard's Drug & Booze BT's
Nessie
In "A Piece Of Blue Sky" (APOBS) (copyright (c) 1990 by Jon
Atack, p. 171), we find:
Hubbard had spent the last weeks of 1966 "researching" OT3 in
North Africa. In a letter of the time, he admitted that he was
taking drugs ("pinks and grays") to assist his research.(16)
Early in 1967, Hubbard flew to Las Palmas, and Virginia
Downsborough, who cared for him after his arrival, was astonished
that he was existing almost totally on a diet of drugs. For three
weeks Hubbard was bedridden, while Downsborough weaned him off
this diet. According to her, he was obsessed with removing his
"body-thetans."(17)
16: Interview with Gerald Armstrong, East Grinstead, June 1984.
17: Interview with Virginia Downsborough, Santa Barbara, October
1986.
There is also confirmation of the claims the Pope posted from
"Messiah or Madman" in "A Piece Of Blue Sky" (p. 332-3), talking
about the Gerry Armstrong trial:
...there are letters sent from North Africa in late 1966,
to Mary Sue at Saint Hill, which give details of the drugs
Hubbard was taking to "research" the most secret of
Scientology's levels, OT3.
And, from the mouth of Source himself (APOBS, p. 119):
In a lecture in June 1950, Hubbard had admitted to
having been a phenobarbitol addict. He also spoke
knowledgeably about the effects of sodium amytal,
ACTH (a hormone), opium, marijuana and sodium
pentathol.
These statements were not contested by the Church of Scientology
in their libel suit against Jon Atack.
In a different interview, Virginia Downsborough told Russell Miller
(in "Bare-Faced Messiah" copyright (c) 1987 by Russell Miller, p. 266):
We found him a hotel in Las Palmas and next day I went
back to see if he was all right, because he did not seem
to be too well. When I went in to his room, there were
drugs of all kinds everywhere. He seemed to be taking
about sixty thousand different pills. I was appalled,
particularly after listening to all his tirades against
drugs and the medical profession. There was something very
wrong with him... My main concern was to try and get him
off all the pills he was on and persuade him that there
was still plenty for him to do.
On the same page, Miller says:
It was important for Hubbard to be discovered in this
dramatically debilitated condition at this time, for it
would soon be announced to fellow Scientologists that he
had completed `a research accomplishment of immense
magnitude' described... as the `Wall of Fire'. This was
the OT III material...
These statements were not contested by the Church of Scientology
in their libel suit against Russell Miller.
And in "Messiah or Madman" (copyright (c) 1987, 1992 by Bent Corydon
p. 59), we find, following the Pope's two quotes, and also referring
to the Armstrong trial:
...a letter by Hubbard to his first wife was revealed,
the last sentence of which declared: "I do love you,
even if I used to be an opium addict."
Ron's love of rum was also documented on p. 39, as Hana Eltringham
Whitfield tells us:
...I watched him drink glass after large glass of rum
and Coke: three-quarters rum and one-quarter Coke; some
seven or eight in an evening. Yet he never slurred a
word and never swayed or in any way acted the slightest
bit inebriated.
This kind of tolerance to alcohol is certainly the sign of a chronic
abuser.
Now I will show that Ron's drug activities were directly responsible
for the central tenets of Scientolgy's upper levels. Notice that
John Atack documents that Ron was using rum, pinks and greys in his
"research." What else could he have been researching at that time
except OT III?
Then Virginia Downsborough says that he returned to Las Palmas
totally debilitated from drugs. This absolutely must have been
just after he "passed through the Wall of Fire." Note also
that one of the two principal volcanoes in Incident II, and
the only one in the Atlantic, was on Las Palmas. This was where
the bombed-out thetans were "packaged into clusters," which
later became Body Thetans.
Ron never mentioned Body Thetans before he "passed through
the Wall of Fire," and was clearly obsessed with them for
ever afterward. OT III thru VII are all about exorcising
these "clusters." (See also the final quote in this aritcle.)
The fact that Virginia Downsborough says that he was obsessed
with removing his "body-thetans" at this point completes the
story. Shortly thereafter, in Las Palmas, he published "Ron's
Journal '67," in which the existence of OT III was announced
to the world.
I think the above material reveals the following sequence of events:
1. Ron writes his wife that he is using rum, pinks and greys
to help him with some new "research."
2. Ron passes through the "Wall of Fire" and discovers
Body Thetans.
3. Ron returns to Las Palmas in a debilitated condition
from too much drug abuse, obsessed about Body Thetans.
4. OT III, containing references to Las Palmas and the first
references to Body Thetans, is released from Las Palmas.
- From this, the inescapable conclusion is that not only was L. Ron
Hubbard a drug-soaked booze-hound, as the Pope claims, but that
the central Sacred Scripture of the Advanced Materials of the
Church of Scientology is indeed the direct product of its founder's
dissolute, self-abusive activities.
Finally, on an only slightly-related note (at least it was in this
thread), Xemu requested a reference to Hubbard's mental state
at his death. This is from the Affadavit of Andre Tabayoyon
(brackets mine):
38. I was advised by Richard Aznaran, Sinar Parman
and Annie Breeder [Broeker?] that Hubbard was an
unhandled PTS III when he died. According to Sinar
Parman [LRH's personal manservant], Hubbard was a
psychopathic insane person screaming about BT's and
clusters at the top of his lungs.
- Scientology and health http://www.whyaretheydead.net/
- 'Religious' child abuse and neglect http://www.taxexemptchildabuse.net/
- Visit Occupied Clearwater with Nessie http://nessie.psychassualt.org/
- The hearing transcripts http://whyaretheydead.net/lisa_mcpherson/bob/
ladayla
>
>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/OTIII/bts-or-dts.txt
>In "A Piece Of Blue Sky" (APOBS) (copyright (c) 1990 by Jon
>through
>the Wall of Fire," and was clearly obsessed with them for
>ever afterward. OT III thru VII are all about exorcising
>these "clusters." (See also the final quote in this aritcle.)
Ron was fascinated by the theory of "entities" as early as 1952 to my certain
and direct knowledge. It is true that he did not use the term " body thetans"
until the 'wall of fire' info was released. If you go back down the research
line, you will clearly see that the phenomenon of 'body thetans' was in
existence from the get-go. I have some letters from Ross Lameroux and Gordon
Beckstead ( early Dianeticists ) in which LRH's interest in 'entities' is
discussed that support my own statement that the idea of 'body thetans' was not
a new discovery. How they came to be was , I think, the discovery made in 1966.(
Inc. 2 & 1 ).
la
Ed
The McClaughrys' Excalibur course materials recently posted
extensively use material from LRH's tapes from 1952 about entities and
auditing them. They say that no one in the church or the freezone that
they know of has ever used this tech and that all the versions of OT
levels ever put out are failures because they skipped over this 1952
material.
Ed
Revd. Norle Enturbulata
"Ed" <met...@aol.com> wrote in message news:403ABBEC...@aol.com...
Or perhaps this was all part of the plan to bilk thousands of cult members
out of their money, building them all up to how they were going to go "OT",
then saying that because they hadn't done a previously-unknown set of
equally invalid routines that they had to start all over again.
One wonders if a hamster - that is, not "Nelson" of course - would know
better after the first round. Alas, too many Scientologists do not.
--
Revd. Norle Enturbulata
"Church" of Cartoonism
*
* " You can write that down in your book in great big letters.
* The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them."
* -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
ladayla
They don't know me. ( and prolly never will). Of course, I am not in the church
or the freezone. I haven't read their Excalibur materials. I have had Capt
Bill's stuff since about 1983, so I have no interest in their re-hashing of it.
la
The only real Barbara Schwarz
Typically for porn and bomb-instruction guy Dave Toruetzky to have the
Jon Atack defamation and Virginia Downsborough misinformation about L.
Ron Hubbard on his website and typically for Lise, aka Nessie (the
woman who runs around with a stuffed animal on her arm where ever she
goes to demonstrate her sanity) to cite those guys.
Anybody knows that L. Ron Hubbard had likely not just one but several
impostors, and that what about Ron is either completely fabricated
(just as the documents that Gerry Armstrong stole as they were
deliberately placed there for him to take) or the works of the
impostors, as that one of Jack Marshall.
Ron never took drugs, never was on a crazy diet, and did believe in
that thetans with body, mindcontrollers, psychs, infiltrate body and
minds and make people sick and change their personalities.
Ron also had no first wife. He had just one, Sarah de Rothschild. (Not
Northtrup.) The other women either made the marriages up or they
married one or the same impostor, and that includes Mary Sue.
Too bad for all your conspirators and German secret service agents
that and their agents that I managed to get my memory back and
discovered the truth. :)
Barbara Schwarz
The only real Barbara Schwarz
Who are you? You are afraid to identify yourself as you are lying.
Everybody can claim anonymously something, but just fools will believe
you. Anonymous claims just don't count.
The body thetans originally were not bodyless thetans. They were
people, thetans WITH BODIES. They are mindcontrollers, psychs that
channel into the minds of people and run them, just the way you and
others are run, Lala...
Barbara Schwarz
Fredric L. Rice
>"Ed" <met...@aol.com> wrote in message news:403ABBEC...@aol.com...
>> The McClaughrys' Excalibur course materials recently posted
>> extensively use material from LRH's tapes from 1952 about entities and
>> auditing them. They say that no one in the church or the freezone that
>> they know of has ever used this tech and that all the versions of OT
>> levels ever put out are failures because they skipped over this 1952
>> material.
>Or perhaps this was all part of the plan to bilk thousands of cult members
>out of their money, building them all up to how they were going to go "OT",
>then saying that because they hadn't done a previously-unknown set of
>equally invalid routines that they had to start all over again.
The "course" looks to be available for free, though.
I'd like to know much more about Ron's Org as it operates here in
Los Angeles and I was told that there's going to be a meeting of Ron's
Org people here next month. Hopefully I'll be allowed to sit in because
I would love to see if they've got stick-to-itive-ness and are going to
be an actual spin-off of Scientology or whether they're a flash in the
pan. If they're going to be around for a while, I'd love to write an
article for submission to a skeptic's publication covering it.
One of the things that I'd want to cover is the expense of "clearing
technology" available through the FreeZone and Ropn's Org as compared
to the Scientology company. The "technology" is the same: I don't
believe it; it's mostly quack nonsense; it's mostly harmless. But it
also has some undeniable positive benefits tht -- granted -- don't
seem to last long.
---
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THIS IS NOT A JOKE! Reading this information _will_ make your sick!
Q: So where are Bush's military comrades? A: Still hiding in Canada.
Fredric L. Rice
>>extensively use material from LRH's tapes from 1952 about entities and
>>auditing them. They say that no one in the church or the freezone that
>>they know of has ever used this tech and that all the versions of OT
>>levels ever put out are failures because they skipped over this 1952
>>material.
>They don't know me. ( and prolly never will). Of course, I am not in the church
>or the freezone. I haven't read their Excalibur materials. I have had Capt
>Bill's stuff since about 1983, so I have no interest in their re-hashing of it.
I've skimmed through all of it. Honestly it seems virtually
indistinguishable from the NOTs that used to float around the Newsgroups.