protesters assaulted in Clearwater; apparently by a retard
cultxpt
I have a feeling this guy is just a retard rather than a
Scientologist, but it will be interesting to find out.
banchukita
Seems the protesters thought he was a Scientologist. Wonder who he's
talking to on that cell phone at the end there.
The guy assaults a videographer with a cop right there, and the guy is
not even asked for ID, much less arrested? WTF?
-maggie, human being
rattusrattus
henri
If that was an Anon at a protest, they'd have been arrested
immediately. I think the phrase for this is "religious
discrimination."
xenufrance
"henri" <he...@nowhere.invalid> a écrit dans le message de news:
mig5n4h5clgf6lbu0...@4ax.com...
no need of "religiousness" here, that's indeed discrimination when a cop
does not arrest a violent guy while he's present at the scene.
r
Kilia40
Naaaa........he's just a Miscavige wannabe.
Eldon
It's possible that they did ID him when the camera was pointed
elsewhere. Looks like they talked to him at some length, and he seemed
to be arguing with them! Presumably he was setting them straight about
his right to hit anybody who took his picture on a public street. ;-)
>
> -maggie, human being
kennethno...@gmail.com
lol yeah, seriously wtf??
Can you imagine what would happen if an Anon assaulted a
Scientologist? What's up with the double standard here?
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Quaoar
As I saw both videos of this incident, there was culpability on both
sides of the issue. The demonstrators certainly did not withhold their
taunting of the guy at any point and helped to make it personal between
both parties.
I think the cops did a decent job of defusing the incident. Note also,
that at the time the cops are having their private discussion with the
guy, one of the cops makes a gesture to one of the demonstrators like
'watch it, you might be next'.
Q
Eldon
> banchukita wrote:
> > On Jan 17, 8:31 pm, cultxpt <cult...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4_b3z2E-0I&feature=channel_page
>
> >> I have a feeling this guy is just a retard rather than a
> >> Scientologist, but it will be interesting to find out.
>
> > Seems the protesters thought he was a Scientologist. Wonder who he's
> > talking to on that cell phone at the end there.
>
> > The guy assaults a videographer with a cop right there, and the guy is
> > not even asked for ID, much less arrested? WTF?
>
> > -maggie, human being
>
> As I saw both videos of this incident, there was culpability on both
> sides of the issue. The demonstrators certainly did not withhold their
> taunting of the guy at any point and helped to make it personal between
> both parties.
Oh, I see. So verbal taunting is the same as physical assault, right?
Please explain to all of us retards why they are equivalent. Thanks a
lot.
realpch
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Eldon
> On Jan 18, 5:21 am, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 18, 5:00 am, banchukita <banchuk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 17, 8:31 pm, cultxpt <cult...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4_b3z2E-0I&feature=channel_page
>
> > > > I have a feeling this guy is just a retard rather than a
> > > > Scientologist, but it will be interesting to find out.
>
> > > Seems the protesters thought he was a Scientologist. Wonder who he's
> > > talking to on that cell phone at the end there.
>
> > > The guy assaults a videographer with a cop right there, and the guy is
> > > not even asked for ID, much less arrested? WTF?
>
> > It's possible that they did ID him when the camera was pointed
> > elsewhere. Looks like they talked to him at some length, and he seemed
> > to be arguing with them! Presumably he was setting them straight about
> > his right to hit anybody who took his picture on a public street. ;-)
>
> lol yeah, seriously wtf??
>
> Can you imagine what would happen if an Anon assaulted a
> Scientologist? What's up with the double standard here?
Yes, there is some inequality. That's why Anons need to knee Scilons
in the balls when the cops aren't looking, and then walk away
innocently whistling a show tune. ;-)
Kim P
> cultxpt wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4_b3z2E-0I&feature=channel_page
>>
>> I have a feeling this guy is just a retard rather than a
>> Scientologist, but it will be interesting to find out.
>
> What is this, National Politically Incorrect Day?!!!
>
> Jeff!
>
> Peach
He has obviously been spending way too much time with the anons :-)
My boys assure me that this type of speech is meaningless and has
nothing to do with putting others down - their generation seems to
discriminate indiscriminately - words have no power to hurt if you
do not let them hurt - thus the language many of us are appalled to hear.
Kim P
banchukita
Someone posted a comment on youtube to the effect that the
videographer was asked if they wanted to press charges and they
declined.
-maggie, human being
cultxpt
It's possible I've been hanging out with those nigger faggot Anons too
long and have become desensitized to un-PC words. My point was that I
don't know if he's a Scientologist bullbaiting or just an idiot doing
stupid things. I still don't know.
Beth
According to posts on WWP, the Anon who was struck did not want to
have to namefag himself, which would have been necessary to press
charges.
Beth
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The insane buttfuck said, "You're all a bunch of liars" and he called
everyone faggots. That sounds like a Scientology customer.
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>"cultxpt" <cul...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:199e86d0-67c2-4fa2-93c4->befaf3...@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com...snip
>It's possible I've been hanging out with those nigger faggot Anons too
>long and have become desensitized to un-PC words. My point was that I
>don't know if he's a Scientologist bullbaiting or just an idiot doing
>stupid things. I still don't know.
It's funny that the group that takes on scientology already immunized
themselves against standard bullbaiting.
Hartley Patterson
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4_b3z2E-0I&feature=channel_page
>
> I have a feeling this guy is just a retard rather than a
> Scientologist, but it will be interesting to find out.
The guy looked to be just a potty mouth. Anon were fine about not striking
back, but otherwise fail.
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realpch
Yeah, I know. It's just odd hearing out of the mouths of people whose
age is around mine!
: D
realpch
You have been, you have been! I recommend moron, jerk, asshole, or idiot
for generic type insults.
: D
Quaoar
Try "verbal taunting" as a passive-aggressive action. Look it up. Suck
it up.
Anon in Clearwater overstepped the bounds of their own mantra of
peaceful protest. They were overcome with the lulz, apparently.
They could have shut the fuck up and let the guy do his own aggressive
stuff, but the Anons decided to follow and taunt the guy. Not a good
approach.
Had the Anons shut the fuck up, the guy might have been taken into
custody. ...but, no, the Anons had to follow and taunt the guy. Ergo,
the cops had to evaluate the balance, and since both parties were
performing egregious actions, they let the guy go with a warning. It is
lucky for the Anons that several were not also taken aside and given
warnings.
Anon in several cities haven't gotten the message that 'silence is
golden'.
Q
Piltdown Man
Beth <moont...@yahoo.com> wrote...
> On Jan 18, 11:47 am, banchukita <banchuk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
>> Someone posted a comment on youtube to the effect that the
>> videographer was asked if they wanted to press charges and they
>> declined.
>>
>> -maggie, human being
>
> According to posts on WWP, the Anon who was struck did not want to
> have to namefag himself, which would have been necessary to press
> charges.
Oh, the injustice! I can only hope there's been a lot of noise made on
"Anonymous" message boards about this, so that this doesn't happen ever
again ("Anonymous" are good at that -- anything they protest against
disappears within a few months, a year at the most). Just imagine it, to
file a complaint with the police you have to reveal to the police who the
hell you are! What is the world coming to?
Beth
<piltd...@ivehaditwiththespam.sorry> wrote:
> Beth <moontac...@yahoo.com> wrote...
I know you're being sarcastic, but a fear of retribution is actually
very common and often prevents people from filing charges or
testifying against criminals. And one thing that intensifies the fear
of retribution is knowing that a criminal knows how to find you. It's
a sad fact of life, not something to mock people for. Maybe you think
a fear of being harassed and/or fair gamed is trivial. Sure, it's not
a matter of life and death (as when witnesses refuse to come forward
because they might be killed). But it can make life very uncomfortable
for the target. And in this case, what would be the point? I'm sure
the guy in question would just get a small fine or a warning. I can
see why the Anon would not want to go to the trouble.
Beth
Eldon
Verbal taunting tends to comprise the audible content of most
protests. The messages on the signs signs also amount to legible
taunting. So are you saying the content of protests should be
restricted to "polite" messages?
barbz
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barbz
Try pulling your head out of your ass long enough to look around, and
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On Jan 18, 9:21 am, realpch <real...@aol.com> wrote:
> cultxpt wrote:
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4_b3z2E-0I&feature=channel_page
>
> > I have a feeling this guy is just a retard rather than a
> > Scientologist, but it will be interesting to find out.
I'd say this was a Tone 40 assault of the type we've learned to expect from
Scientologists: Obscenity; provocative physical contact, finger-pointing and
other gesticulation; a completely uniform level of emotion; the professing
that others (Anons) are somehow "breaking the law" but not saying how; He
ends it up with a Phonecall To Headquarters. Add to this the 'security
guard' jacket/tie/shirt and, while individually the aforesaid trip-offs
would just be that, together they give a very strong impression that it's a
Scientologist, possibly one not used to dealing with Anonymous, or at least
from outside Clearwater.
Beautiful look on his face as the police tell him how in the wrong he is,
it's almost a pout - and then he almost starts the finger-pointing bit at
the cop, thinks twice and turns it into just a gesticulation in his rant.
Welcome to bullbaiting 102.
realpch
Seems to me that the best response to most situations where somebody is
verbally aggressive, is to offer the mildest and most neutral of
responses, or perhaps a funny one, or even a nonsensical one. You know,
don't match their tone scale!
: D
realpch
There is that. There is also the general "stickiness" of such a report.
One would wind up in a variety of stodge, that's apt to linger for
awhile. People have to make up their minds exactly how much stodge they
have the time for.
realpch
<snip>
Well, that was always my aim. Suited me.
Eldon
Being polite, you mean? Well, you are that way, so I understand. But
provocative language can be fun too sometimes. ;-)
realpch
> > > Verbal taunting tends to comprise the audible content of most
> > > protests. The messages on the signs signs also amount to legible
> > > taunting. So are you saying the content of protests should be
> > > restricted to "polite" messages?
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Well, that was always my aim. Suited me.
>
> Being polite, you mean? Well, you are that way, so I understand. But
> provocative language can be fun too sometimes. ;-)
<snip>
Yes, I know. However, it can be very "expensive!"
: D
Quaoar
If you don't agree with me, offer a counter argument. You have
degenerated from your former well argued comments for whatever reason.
Q
Quaoar
You are completely wrong. Watch the videos again. The Anons followed
and taunted the 'criminal', the one thing that they should not have done.
'Immunized', hell! The Anons were just short of riot; they were very
near to losing their collective self control. It is, proved by their
own video, that they were as much responsible as was the cultist for
generating and enhancing the cultist's actions.
Q
banchukita
The guy wasn't taken into custody not because Anon didn't silently put
up with being assaulted on a public street, but because the officer
asked the videographer if they wanted to press charges, and they
declined because they would have had to expose their identity in order
to press charges.
I like it a lot better when picketers sit down around an area where
tensions are escalating, but I think these folks did okay.
-maggie, human being
Eldon
Argument? Are you saying that's what you presented in the first place?
I didn't recognize it as such.
cultxpt
> John wrote:
> >> "cultxpt" <cult...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:199e86d0-67c2-4fa2-93c4->befaf3458__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z...@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> - Show quoted text -
No, the picketers were walking west, and the ret... I mean, attacker
decided to walk in the same direction, toward the Starbucks. I assume
the attacker was going to the Starbucks, while the protesters were
continuing on with their march. In Clearwater protesters have to keep
moving all the time.
Eldon
> On Jan 19, 8:03 pm, Quaoar <qua...@marcabfleet.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > John wrote:
> > >> "cultxpt" <cult...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >> On Jan 18, 9:21 am, realpch <real...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >>> cultxpt wrote:
> > > snip
>
> > >> It's possible I've been hanging out with those nigger faggot Anons too
> > >> long and have become desensitized to un-PC words. My point was that I
> > >> don't know if he's a Scientologist bullbaiting or just an idiot doing
> > >> stupid things. I still don't know.
>
> > > It's funny that the group that takes on scientology already immunized
> > > themselves against standard bullbaiting.
>
> > You are completely wrong. Watch the videos again. The Anons followed
> > and taunted the 'criminal', the one thing that they should not have done.
>
> > 'Immunized', hell! The Anons were just short of riot; they were very
> > near to losing their collective self control. It is, proved by their
> > own video, that they were as much responsible as was the cultist for
> > generating and enhancing the cultist's actions.
>
> > Q- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> No, the picketers were walking west, and the ret... I mean, attacker
> decided to walk in the same direction, toward the Starbucks. I assume
> the attacker was going to the Starbucks, while the protesters were
> continuing on with their march. In Clearwater protesters have to keep
> moving all the time.
Well, anyway, I think the protesters showed adequate if not admirable
restraint. I have a short fuse when it comes down to being physically
assaulted while holding a valuable piece of equipment in my hands,
such as a video camera.
If my hands were occupied during such an assault by such a whiney
little idiot, I would probably employ a knee to the nutz and let him
file a complaint.
barbz
Clams got nutz?
banchukita
> >>news:199e86d0-67c2-4fa2-93c4->befaf3458__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z...@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Um...he hit, they didn't. No one was preventing him from simply
walking away, or as one picketer advised over and over, going on with
his day.
The picketers were policing themselves [the woman who gently led a
male picketer away saying "no no no" is one example].
Scientologists at the 'mad picket' and those who dressed in Nazi
uniforms and chanted "Sid Klein, what's your crime" were way more 'out
of control' than these Anon. Heck, Mary de Moss all alone was more
out of control than hundreds of Anon.
-maggie, human being
Eldon
> On Jan 19, 10:03 pm, Quaoar <qua...@marcabfleet.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > John wrote:
> > >> "cultxpt" <cult...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Yes, yes, but they say they're a religion, so they're allowed to carry
on like that, right?
NOT. If her nastiness Mary de Moss had addressed me the way she
talked to Mark Bunker, I would have kicked her in the nutz or the
ovaries, whichever place might have been appropriate..
>
> -maggie, human being
banchukita
> On Jan 20, 6:56 pm, banchukita <banchuk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 19, 10:03 pm, Quaoar <qua...@marcabfleet.net> wrote:
>
> > > John wrote:
> > > >> "cultxpt" <cult...@gmail.com> wrote in message
They can call names and say whatever they like, I don't care.
All their Tone 40 nastiness does not dim the enlightenment protesters
bring.
But they can't hit. And neither should you.
-maggie, human being
>
>
>
> > -maggie, human being- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Black Mamba
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4_b3z2E-0I&feature=channel_page
|
| I have a feeling this guy is just a retard rather than a
| Scientologist, but it will be interesting to find out.
He's not a Scientologist. He' is not retarded person either. He's just a
young fag with the hots for some Sea Org members big dick. That is how
Scientologists intentions often come through in such people.By attacking
Anonymous in front of the police and having an alleged legitimate excuse to
do so, he acting "bad" for his SO member. Good.
Typical of Clearwater.
Larry
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> John wrote:
> >> "cultxpt" <cult...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:199e86d0-67c2-4fa2-93c4->befaf3458__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z...@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jan 18, 9:21 am, realpch <real...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> cultxpt wrote:
> > snip
>
> >> It's possible I've been hanging out with those nigger faggot Anons too
> >> long and have become desensitized to un-PC words. My point was that I
> >> don't know if he's a Scientologist bullbaiting or just an idiot doing
> >> stupid things. I still don't know.
>
> > It's funny that the group that takes on scientology already immunized
> > themselves against standard bullbaiting.
>
> You are completely wrong. Watch the videos again. The Anons followed
> and taunted the 'criminal', the one thing that they should not have done.
The above assumes that anons utilize ScienoThink in their deliberations? I
think not.
The video clearly shows that the QuasiRetard Scientologist persists in not
only assaulting the camera operators, but returning over and over to do so,
as if he cannot stop harassing them. How is this not evident?
> 'Immunized', hell! The Anons were just short of riot; they were very
> near to losing their collective self control. It is, proved by their
> own video, that they were as much responsible as was the cultist for
> generating and enhancing the cultist's actions.
This is an incorrect assessment. Anons' level of energy is hardly
provocative in the vid. The QuasiRetard Scieno repeatedly instigates
conflict, in a Hubbard-designed method of attempting to ramp up the tension
so that the Target (Anons) lose their temper, snap, and assault him.
Somehow it doesn't happen, yet the Scieno consistently keeps performing KSW
however pathetically.
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"banchukita" <banch...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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-maggie, human being
I'll not stop saying this: Besides the obvious peaceful advantages to the
world in general, there is no better way of demonstrating to a Scientologist
the invalidity of "the Tech", than simply not reacting in the prescribed
manner to the Scientologist's oh-so-public attacks. The Scientologist will
tend to also give a fine demonstration of a batshit hissy fit in the
process, and possibly become enturbulated in a way that puts cracks in the
infallible "tech".
Beth
>
> I have a feeling this guy is just a retard rather than a
> Scientologist, but it will be interesting to find out.
Over at Why We Protest, they are saying he's been identified as a kid
named Jorge Serrano with Scilon parents.
b