What is going on on Enturbulation org? Is it under control of OSA already or what?
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
I have received this message in my message box and protest against it.
[QUOTE PM on enturb]
You have received an infraction at Enturbulation.org Activism Forums
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Dear 2beAnonymous,
You have received an infraction at Enturbulation.org Activism Forums.
Reason: Personal Attack
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This infraction is worth 3 point(s) and may result in restricted access
until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.
Original Post:
[url=http://forums.enturbulation.org/7-ge...29/#post437329]General
Discussion - Enturbulation.org Activism Forums[/url]
[quote]
Quote Originally Posted by Clamosaurus
Quote:
I guess that's why youve recently moved on to motzarella.org and
created a new profile for Google groups, so people cant track back into
your old posts so easily.
("me" = 2beAnonymous)
? Are you nuts?
Quote clamosaurus:
This crew is something you cannot comprehend for their intelligence and
ability to get right below any facade
me:
That will make them cry. I have not facade. But they already will have
found out by now.
Quote clamosaurus:
Oh! I do remember, Lily. Its why >I< did a 3.0 thread listing your
profiles and when you were caught out posting as Linda Dalton.
Even Jonathion Barbera inadvertantly solidified how you and Linda were
in fact the same poster, bu posting old and new header details.
:me
If you want Lily to repost Linda's posts, ask her to do so. Scientology
will not like it, since Linda, like Nelson, actually do not make the
best figure at all. In fact they are a plain shame for scientology.
That is also the reason, why I personally would never dare to claim
those postings have been made by scientologists. But other posters,
like you, claim so. I will not contradict, if you say so, it must be
true. Sure. Maybe I should post some postings from Linda. When she did
her first auditing, e.g.
Quote (not by me, probably clamosaurus):
You just take orders, youre too stupid to do much else.
quote me:
And you know that, exactly, because: ... (fill out blanks)
Quote (not me):
Doesnt take an "expert" to have someone else to set up net access.
quote me:
Boy! What an insight!
Quote not me:
Where's the best place to hide something?
Right before your very own eyes
quote me:
Very nice.
Quote not me:
Gad's, is this going to be like your time in OCMB?
Oh wait, according to you, you got hax0red in clambake!
Youve answered you own question in the above.
U R A CLAM!
quote me:
Proof? Clue? Does both not exist, so at least give me a reason why you
think you can claim it. There must be something. But I fear, there is
nothing, except lies of course, but maybe even those do not an good
enough job. Who knows.
Quote not me:
Hence, why youre sprouting about the dangers of PM's and email contacts
etc etc.
quote not by me:
Ya such a dolt.
: (by me)
Yes, you hate it, if I say so. It makes it harder for OSA to manipulate
the people of this forum and to lurk them out.
Be careful, Anonymous, esp. with those, who want you to PM them.
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All the best,
Enturbulation.org Activism Forums[/QUOTE]
In the same thread I was called this:
:
The fragrant lily and her various sock puppets are well
known to the OG on ars and ocmb, as a long running and
persistent time wasting distraction merchant.
:
QFT
Lily is at best OSA, at worst a tin foil hatter.
Personally... i think she/he/they is hilarious, but definitely useless.
:
U R A CLAM!
Hence, why youre sprouting about the dangers of PM's and email contacts
etc etc.
:
Ya such a dolt.
:
You just take orders, youre too stupid to do much else.
My postings have furthermore been illegally withdrawn from the thread
here on enturb. I protest against that and do call the first Amendment.
I call the right of my freedom of speech and protest against the
attempt to be shut down. And I have a right to defend myself against
lies and insinuations.
Here is the thread, an Anonymous of Enturbulation did start against my
will and the thread this person who harassed me by pm me did put my
postings into. I protest against this behaviour. It is my work and I
decide, where I put my messages.
That Anonymous behaved like scientology. Just like OSA.
It all started, because I asked a poster, who requested (!) questions -
chefanon namely -, some questions.
---
End quote OM Enturbualtion org.
2beAnonymous did protest with this message against that, but that
posting went directly to Thunderdome.
Those questions to Mr. Tringali can be found here:
Subject: Re: Enturbulation.org (17 July 2008): "Coming Out
Announcement" by Chris Tringali
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:42:32 +0200
What is going on over there on enturb? Anonymous already in the claws
of scientology? Boy. That will fire back, scilon-guys, I almost
guarantee you.
.Lily.
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The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
DekucuizsCakeSF, FreedomToThink,Mousey - who wrote the PM, termination,
Unlisted
current time there: 11:38 AM
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
>
oops!, wrong fingerset
read: DeliciousCakeSF
> DekucuizsCakeSF, FreedomToThink, Mousey - who wrote the PM,
> termination, Unlisted
and "core"
Alert
Tom Newton
<ee8efd8a-5786-4eb6...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.co
m> Alert <flickin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Subject: LilyFAILred the OSA drone, gets caught out over at Enturn.org
Bullshit. They simply don't allow anyone who isn't a braindead anti-Scientology
fanatic to post over there.
While claiming to be a forum run by a free speech activist group.
> *chortle
Typical post from an Anontard: Makes a stupid statement and then expects
everyone to believe that it's evidence of his intellectual superiority.
You are suck clueless jerks.
If the Church of Scientology wanted to disrupt any of your hate forums
they could do it with ease and never get caught at it.
Hell, I could do it all by myself if I wanted to.
They are doing the sensible thing and letting you do your thing and
collecting the data on you that results from it.
And one of these days you are going to wish you'd just kept your
punk mouths shut and found something useful to do with your lives.
Tom
--
Real science: http://www.sethcenter.com/pages/bookstore.htm
If I read your article, I replied to it.
If I didn't reply to it, I didn't read it.
My newsfilter kills about 1/2 the posts to ARS.
Smurf
<lilyfire...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2beAnonymous wrote on enturb:
>
> I have received this message in my message box and protest against it.
>
> [QUOTE PM on enturb]
> You have received an infraction at Enturbulation.org Activism Forums
>
>
> That Anonymous behaved like scientology. Just like OSA.
>
> It all started, because I asked a poster, who requested (!) questions -
> chefanon namely -, some questions.
>
> ---
> End quote OM Enturbualtion org.
>
> 2beAnonymous did protest with this message against that, but that
> posting went directly to Thunderdome.
>
> Those questions to Mr. Tringali can be found here:
>
> Subject: Re: Enturbulation.org (17 July 2008): "Coming Out
> Announcement" by Chris Tringali
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:42:32 +0200
>
> What is going on over there on enturb? Anonymous already in the claws
> of scientology? Boy. That will fire back, scilon-guys, I almost
> guarantee you.
>
> .Lily.
>
> --
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> For further enlightenment, please read some of Truth Seeker's articles:
> The Hitchhiker's Guide Through A.R.S. - Complete List Of Truth
> Seeker's Articles About This Newsgroup ::
Lily.. there have been several critics banned from Enturbulation.org
over content posted regarding Noelle North & Subway. Is it fair? No.
Is it censorship? Maybe. The folks at Enturbulation have been accused
of conducting the same kind of censorship that the Scilons have long
conducted on a much larger scale. Read the Forum rules for their
website. Did you violate them with your post? In the eyes of their
moderator(s): Probably.
Move on. Your life is not going to be effected one way or the other
not be allowed to post on Enturbulation.org, that is, unless you have
a hidden agenda.
Hartley Patterson
> 2beAnonymous wrote on enturb:
>
> I have received this message in my message box and protest against it.
Entubulation has a no crap policy of throwing out OSA employees like you
as soon as they are spotted, and indeed anyone being disruptive. Fine with
me.
--
alt.religion.scientology FAQ
Please read before posting
http://mysite.orange.co.uk/newsfrombree/faq.htm
barb
Indeed. If the pore little muffin fails to 'make it go right,' it may
affect her life in ways that are...not good.
--
Barb "That's Captain Barbossa to you!"
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
It's Poodlin' Time!
“I think that the protections that we enjoy for freedom of worship exist
so long as we don’t step over the line. When religious worship and
belief cross over into things like fraud, victimization of others and
the disruption of the political arena, that protection is no longer
appropriate.”
--Robert Goff
Professor Emeritus, UCSC
lawt...@hotmail.co.uk
<lilyfire...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2beAnonymous wrote on enturb:
>
> I have received this message in my message box and protest against it.
<snip>
Are you surprised, bearing in mind that you seem to direct
a lot of criticism against critics rather than scientology? You
are a drag on the crowd, holding them back with your
silly accusations. You were the weakest link, move on.
Lawtears
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
I did them on Enturbulation. Absolutely and completely. They fled to
their dome, wanted me to go there as well.
They did not dare to face me on the normal forum anymore. And they
could not justify any punishment, because I did not use dirty language
or other things at all.
That was so funny, when they all hided in their dome and I was always
calling them from outside and they just did not dare to get out.
Then they saw, that they cannot get me there and did not know what to
do else, so they just deleted my messages which they did not make them
look "cool" and denied my access. A pity. I would like to play them
moar! But they are such pussies!
I had my laughs. I'll do that again. Somewhen. It is just too lulzy.
.Lily.
Tom Newton <t...@server.invalid> wrote:
> On 2008-07-22, in
> <ee8efd8a-5786-4eb6...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.co
> m> Alert <flickin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Subject: LilyFAILred the OSA drone, gets caught out over at
>> Enturn.org
>
> Bullshit. They simply don't allow anyone who isn't a braindead
> anti-Scientology fanatic to post over there.
>
> While claiming to be a forum run by a free speech activist group.
>
>> *chortle
>
> Typical post from an Anontard: Makes a stupid statement and then
> expects everyone to believe that it's evidence of his intellectual
> superiority.
>
> You are suck clueless jerks.
>
> If the Church of Scientology wanted to disrupt any of your hate
> forums
> they could do it with ease and never get caught at it.
>
> Hell, I could do it all by myself if I wanted to.
>
> They are doing the sensible thing and letting you do your thing and
> collecting the data on you that results from it.
>
> And one of these days you are going to wish you'd just kept your
> punk mouths shut and found something useful to do with your lives.
>
> Tom
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The Hitchhiker’s Guide Through A.R.S. - Complete List Of Truth
Seeker’s Articles About This Newsgroup ::
To assure, that the link leads to a google-groups thread, please
preview the long address:
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The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
No, it is okay, Smurf. I had a lot of fun, I just regret a bit, that
they cannot stand it.
I think there are a lot of scientologists there, controlling the enturb
website. I fear for newbies, that is my concern. I hope, there are
enough true critics there, who can do a better job in warning them. And
in trying to give them the right stuff to keep them aware of the
dangers of scientology.
.Lily.
Here is my report (maybe you read it already)
Epic Win!
I did them on Enturbulation. Absolutely and completely. They fled to
their dome, wanted me to go there as well.
They did not dare to face me on the normal forum anymore. And they
could not justify any punishment, because I did not use dirty language
or other things at all.
That was so funny, when they all hided in their dome and I was always
calling them from outside and they just did not dare to get out.
Then they saw, that they cannot get me there and did not know what to
do else, so they just deleted my messages which they did not make them
look "cool" and denied my access. A pity. I would like to play them
moar! But they are such pussies!
I had my laughs. I'll do that again. Somewhen. It is just too lulzy.
.Lily.
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
2be was not weak! She stayed, did not flee! They fled from her,
although she told them, that she is not that bad and big as they are
told all the time.
"I am just a bit hungry."
And that were almost 2be's last words there! roflol! Although before
they told her, they are gonna feed her.
Now - what? Either - or!
.Lily.
> Lawtears
kennethno...@gmail.com
> On 2008-07-22, in
ALL critic sites allow and encourage Scientologists to post. They
just don't like Lilly because she's OSA posing as a critic.
Tom, I know this is hard for you to understand, so re-read it 30
times. Then read it again. You'll get it big guy.
--
Scientology Rulz!
http://www.scientologyrulz.com
Kat
where dramallamas belong. I've thought about possible motivations for
you using your regular identity here on ars, knowing full well that
people would recognize you. The same things kept coming to mind:
1) You wanted to be trolled so that you could play the victim when
people told you to fuck off. You seem to take delight at being
relegated to the dome and crying foul. You take it as a victory, that
people "ran". Regardless of whether or not I agree with their decision
to give you an infraction for the crazy comment, you still stuck your
proverbial dick in the hornets nest. You take too much pride in being
stung lily.
2) You wanted to play the victim, and did, when you experienced normal
posting difficulties on enturb. Either you are an extremely paranoid
delusional individual who beleives every random difficulty on the net
is the result of osa, or you are grasping at straws trying to justify
your standpoint that osa is trying to stop you from telling your
"truth".
3) I found it very amusing when you said this on enturb. "Of course
OSA accuses the true critic of their own being and doing. That is an
old tactic." That is what you yourself do on a regular basis here.
Either you are an extremely clever troll and want to expose the tactic
by playing deep and posing as an osa agent posing AS a trollish
activist... or you're just a hypocrite. I'm still waiting for proof
that I'm osa or a scientologist, as you claim.
In the end, I think you are trying to create more cynicism among the
protesters. Some wise person on enturb also stated you are probably
trying to make ppl who recently left scientology fearful of anons and
other anti-cos sites. You make alot of vague accusations and do not
offer a whole lot of proof to back them up. Burden of proof falls to
you, lily. Otherwise you are just another tinfoil hatter.
kennethno...@gmail.com
You're giving Lily way too much credit by typing all of this. Lily is
OSA or paid by OSA posing as a critic. Her pal TruthSeeker doesn't
post here anymore because we posted evidence that he was a OSA or paid
by OSA. So with that truth out there, OSA can't have TruthSeeker post
anymore. They just pay Lily to post links to his old stuff and act
extremely paranoid and crazy.
Shawn Lonsdale, RIP, told me that he had direct knowledge that
Truthseeker was some retard at a YMCA being paid a few dollars here
and there from Scientology. He also told me Tiger (remember her) was
not Scientology but some crazy old lady living in Oklahoma.
The end.
--
Scientology rulz!
http://www.scientologyrulz.com
Kat
on whether or not lily is osa, but in the absence of proof the only
thing I can do is anazlyze her patterns of behavior.
Tom Newton
> Epic Win!
>
> I did them on Enturbulation. Absolutely and completely. They fled to
> their dome, wanted me to go there as well.
> They did not dare to face me on the normal forum anymore. And they
> could not justify any punishment, because I did not use dirty language
> or other things at all.
>
> That was so funny, when they all hided in their dome and I was always
> calling them from outside and they just did not dare to get out.
>
> Then they saw, that they cannot get me there and did not know what to
> do else, so they just deleted my messages which they did not make them
> look "cool" and denied my access. A pity. I would like to play them
> moar! But they are such pussies!
>
> I had my laughs. I'll do that again. Somewhen. It is just too lulzy.
>
> .Lily.
>
> --
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> For further enlightenment, please read some of Truth Seeker's articles:
> The Hitchhiker?s Guide Through A.R.S. - Complete List Of Truth
> Seeker?s Articles About This Newsgroup ::
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2tecyl
>
> To assure, that the link leads to a google-groups thread, please
> preview the long address:
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2tecyl
>
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
"Truth Seeker" is a vicious anti-Scientology bigot.
Nothing he says can be trusted. He is a pathological liar.
His first lie is his alias. He couldn't care less what the
truth is. He is only interested in harming the Church of
Scientology, for reasons known only to his therapist.
His second lie is his alias.
If he was really a truth seeker, he'd use his real name.
He uses a fake name because he doesn't want to be held
responsible for what he publishes. And so no one can
look into his background.
Like all of the 'Anonymous' bigots, he claims that he has to
be anonymous because the Church of Scientology will harm him if
he isn't, but numerous 'Anons' have been 'outed' and none have
ever been harmed....
Tom
R. Hill
> Epic Win!
>
> I did them on Enturbulation. Absolutely and completely. They fled to
> their dome, wanted me to go there as well.
> They did not dare to face me on the normal forum anymore. And they
> could not justify any punishment, because I did not use dirty language
> or other things at all.
>
> That was so funny, when they all hided in their dome and I was always
> calling them from outside and they just did not dare to get out.
>
> Then they saw, that they cannot get me there and did not know what to
> do else, so they just deleted my messages which they did not make them
> look "cool" and denied my access. A pity. I would like to play them
> moar! But they are such pussies!
>
> I had my laughs. I'll do that again. Somewhen. It is just too lulzy.
>
> .Lily.
This sounds like a great win to read in an Advance! magazine. You should
send it, great chance they will publish it.
<snip>
--
Ray.
Alert
>
> "Truth Seeker" is a vicious anti-Scientology bigot.
Wrong, you Ballchinnian. But you'll say anything to feed your
neediness for attention and responses.
> Nothing he says can be trusted. He is a pathological liar.
That is because "he" isnt a real person, just like Lily isnt a real
person. One are both in the same, asin, they try further the cults
agenda with their gibberish and double reverse psychology and
confusion techniques.
>
<snipped the rest of your shit dribbling>
> Tom
>
The truth will set you free:
http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/fga.shtml
Alert
<lilyfire...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Epic Win!
Yes, you win at being a fucktard in both ARS, and now Enturb.
You masters must be pissed
Tom Newton
<000de4f5-36e5-40d9...@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.co
m> Alert <flickin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 2:07 pm, Tom Newton <t...@server.invalid> wrote:
"Truth Seeker" is a vicious anti-Scientology bigot.
Nothing he says can be trusted. He is a pathological liar.
His first lie is his alias. He couldn't care less what the
truth is. He is only interested in harming the Church of
Scientology, for reasons known only to his therapist.
His second lie is his alias.
If he was really a truth seeker, he'd use his real name.
He uses a fake name because he doesn't want to be held
responsible for what he publishes. And so no one can
look into his background.
Like all of the 'Anonymous' bigots, he claims that he has to
be anonymous because the Church of Scientology will harm him if
he isn't, but numerous 'Anons' have been 'outed' and none have
ever been harmed....
<snip>
"Alert" could very well be "Truth Seeker".
These cowardly bigots change their names like cheap whores
change their panties.
Smurf
> On 2008-07-23, in
> <000de4f5-36e5-40d9-83b8-9caf43a98...@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.co
>
> m> Alert <flicking_you...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 23, 2:07 pm, Tom Newton <t...@server.invalid> wrote:
>
> "Truth Seeker" is a vicious anti-Scientology bigot.
>
> Nothing he says can be trusted. He is a pathological liar.
>
> His first lie is his alias. He couldn't care less what the
> truth is. He is only interested in harming the Church of
> Scientology, for reasons known only to his therapist.
>
> His second lie is his alias.
>
> If he was really a truth seeker, he'd use his real name.
>
> He uses a fake name because he doesn't want to be held
> responsible for what he publishes. And so no one can
> look into his background.
>
> Like all of the 'Anonymous' bigots, he claims that he has to
> be anonymous because the Church of Scientology will harm him if
> he isn't, but numerous 'Anons' have been 'outed' and none have
> ever been harmed....
>
> <snip>
>
> "Alert" could very well be "Truth Seeker".
>
> These cowardly bigots change their names like cheap whores
> change their panties.
You would know about cheap whores & dirty panties.
peters...@gmail.com
I don't think it is nice to compare Tom Newton with a cheap whore.
It's an offence to cheap whores.
Tom Newton (false name, of course) is a mentally handicapped person.
It is not his fault he is what he is. Because he lacks the mental
capabilities to realize the severity of his handicap.
Peter
"In short a staff member can get away with murder so long as his
statistic is up and can't sneeze without a chop if it's down. ... When
people do start reporting a staff member with a high statistic, what
you investigate is the person who turned in the report."
- L. Ron Hubbard
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
Kat <lady...@comcast.net> wrote:
> You fail as a troll, lily. You were moved to the dome because that is
> where dramallamas belong. I've thought about possible motivations for
> you using your regular identity here on ars, knowing full well that
> people would recognize you. The same things kept coming to mind:
>
> 1) You wanted to be trolled so that you could play the victim when
> people told you to fuck off. You seem to take delight at being
> relegated to the dome and crying foul.
Well, I dunno. I am just now thinking, how psychiatrists would call
that behaviour. Do you have any idea?
>You take it as a victory, that
> people "ran".
The fled. Weren't you one of them?
>Regardless of whether or not I agree with their
> decision to give you an infraction for the crazy comment,
Which comment? Post it.
you still
> stuck your proverbial dick in the hornets nest. You take too much
> pride in being stung lily.
Only when I utterly defeat the wesps, so that they got nothing else
left, but bunker themselves and lock me out of their nest.
And if that is not an epic win, I don't know, what is!
>
> 2) You wanted to play the victim, and did, when you experienced
> normal posting difficulties on enturb. Either you are an extremely
> paranoid delusional individual who beleives every random difficulty
> on the net is the result of osa, or you are grasping at straws
> trying to justify your standpoint that osa is trying to stop you
> from telling your "truth".
Doubtlessly you deserve to wear a degree for that, a kind of doctorate.
They sell it on the Internet I guess. I mean one, that says something
to a wog as well, not only to a scilon. So you might have some Otty
degree already, but not the one a wog could understand.
Yet - I think before you offer this analyse for approbation, let us say
of a wannabe-psychiatrist's degree, even one that you can buy, you
probably should think about it a little bit more. But no offense, just
a suggest.
(Boy, I fell I am getting hungry.)
>
> 3) I found it very amusing when you said this on enturb. "Of course
> OSA accuses the true critic of their own being and doing. That is an
> old tactic." That is what you yourself do on a regular basis here.
> Either you are an extremely clever troll and want to expose the
> tactic by playing deep and posing as an osa agent posing AS a
> trollish activist... or you're just a hypocrite. I'm still waiting
> for proof that I'm osa or a scientologist, as you claim.
Deary, I did answer you long ago. Maybe you did not get it. Try it
again. I have not enough time to care all the time for your "ego".
Please look somewhere else for attention.
>
> In the end, I think you are trying to create more cynicism among the
> protesters. Some wise person on enturb also stated you are probably
> trying to make ppl who recently left scientology fearful of anons and
> other anti-cos sites.
How could I? By sending them to the dome?
Did I send somebody there? No. Noone.
The opposite is true: I tried to give an example, how to avoid, being
trapped there. Which Enturbers could not stand, so they had to lock me
out of enturbulation.
Eeeeepic Wiiiiiin is epic is win!
>You make alot of vague accusations and do not
> offer a whole lot of proof to back them up. Burden of proof falls to
> you, lily.
I have proven, what I had to proof. In the moment I am satisfied.
>Otherwise you are just another tinfoil hatter.
Hunger yet is something which just comes by, I cannot hinder it.
Are some cake? Yummy.
.Lily.
ch...@repairman.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
I am new here and all I have seen him post is personal attacks and
fallacies. Plus, the whore analogy stated the reverse of what he
intended.
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
> You're giving Lily way too much credit by typing all of this. Lily
> is OSA or paid by OSA posing as a critic. Her pal TruthSeeker
> doesn't post here anymore because we posted evidence that he was a
> OSA or paid by OSA.
Link please.
>So with that truth out there, OSA can't have
> TruthSeeker post anymore. They just pay Lily to post links to his
> old stuff and act extremely paranoid and crazy.
If I were extremely paranoid and crazy, I would not have defeated the
Thunderdome!
I did it. In less than 24 hours!
>
> Shawn Lonsdale, RIP, told me that he had direct knowledge that
> Truthseeker was some retard at a YMCA being paid a few dollars here
> and there from Scientology.
That is the lowest ever, included ars. To call a dead man as "witness"
of lies.
>He also told me Tiger (remember her) was
> not Scientology but some crazy old lady living in Oklahoma.
>
> The end.
Though I am a bit hungry, I have no appetite of you. This is just foul
and rotten stuff.
.Lily.
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
Oh, yeah, I suggested already you to look for a degree in my answer to
your previous post. Check this out. Lots of recommendations for you.
.Lily.
(tiny yum)
Kat
degree is in anthropology, not psychiatry. If you would like I could
get my friend with a degree in psychiatry to analyze/diagnose you.
Also, I do not need a degree in psychiatry to see that you are
manipulative and are picking a fight to make a victim of yourself.
It's no different than that idiot sticking her foot under stu wyatt's
mobility scooter ON TAPE and then pressing charges for assault when
her foot got run over.
I did not "retreat" to the dome as you put it, I saw the drama here
and went to enturb, made my initial post, and went about my day. By
the time I wandered back to the net, your fire-red pile of flaming
bullshit had been moved to the dome. I didn't retreat anywhere. The
mods moved you. You claimed your posts had been deleted so I checked
to verify and saw they were moved. Your accusation is once again
baseless.
You claim to have offered proof in a previous post. I went back
through every thread I have posted in aimed at you, and must have
missed it. Do enlighten me as to where you answered me long ago. My
point to you and to the world is you are full of shit. You have no
proof that I am OSA or a scientologist because I am not one. You
derail and distract any topic to my education, "tl;dr" comments,
accusing me of name calling and anything else you can point fingers at
rather than answer me directly because you have NO real proof.
Your only so called proof is me stating that your paranoid ranting
gave me a headache. That is not proof of anything other than the fact
that I openly do not agree with your opinions about osa agents. OSA =
does not like lily. Random poster = does not like lily. Random poster
= OSA !!!!! W R O N G !!!!!!!! To extend your peculiar brand of
"logic" to something else, me not liking pork makes me Jewish. I just
don't like the taste of pork, just like I do not like the taste of
your bullshit. This has nothing to do with my ego, and everything to
do with getting you to admit you were mistaken or lying. Which was it
dearie?
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
> I wouldn't know what psychiatrists would diagnose that as dearie. My
> degree is in anthropology, not psychiatry. If you would like I could
> get my friend with a degree in psychiatry to analyze/diagnose you.
mmm... weeeelll .. I would have access to well known academically
approbated coryphees and university profs in that field, so no. If
necessary, I would rather ask them for advice. Thank you, but no.
> Also, I do not need a degree in psychiatry to see that you are
> manipulative and are picking a fight to make a victim of yourself.
> It's no different than that idiot sticking her foot under stu wyatt's
> mobility scooter ON TAPE and then pressing charges for assault when
> her foot got run over.
>
> I did not "retreat" to the dome as you put it, I saw the drama here
> and went to enturb, made my initial post, and went about my day. By
> the time I wandered back to the net, your fire-red pile of flaming
> bullshit had been moved to the dome. I didn't retreat anywhere. The
> mods moved you. You claimed your posts had been deleted so I checked
> to verify and saw they were moved. Your accusation is once again
> baseless.
Ahh! What a relief! Thank you for making this clear, that you did not
retread (flee, I said, but nevermind) to the dome but entered it in
complete courage just to check ahem ... to check.. out well what ever.
! I was so worried and confused and thinking all the time about that
problem, why did Kat flee to the dome! Now, you have cleared it. You
entererd it. Thank you. Ah. I am so glad now, you cannot imagine!
>
> You claim to have offered proof in a previous post. I went back
> through every thread I have posted in aimed at you, and must have
> missed it. Do enlighten me as to where you answered me long ago. My
> point to you and to the world is you are full of shit. You have no
> proof that I am OSA or a scientologist because I am not one. You
> derail and distract any topic to my education, "tl;dr" comments,
> accusing me of name calling and anything else you can point fingers
> at rather than answer me directly because you have NO real proof.
Ah, deary I don't have time for that gamezyzies. Check all my answers
to your continued postings at me and you will find a hint. If you are
not able to understand everything, try to find a mod, who could maybe
explain it to you.
Otherwise I will only become hungry and you know, what that means. I
mean, the dome is not to rent it and never get out of. On the other
hand - well, maybe...
>
>
> Your only so called proof is me stating that your paranoid ranting
> gave me a headache. That is not proof of anything other than the fact
> that I openly do not agree with your opinions about osa agents. OSA =
> does not like lily. Random poster = does not like lily. Random poster
> = OSA !!!!! W R O N G !!!!!!!!
!!!! YEAH!!!!
!!!!!CLEAR MA'AM!!!! = !!!! CLEAR !!!!
>To extend your peculiar brand of
> "logic" to something else, me not liking pork makes me Jewish.
Oh, yes I must have overlooked that fact. Can you forgive me?
>I just
> don't like the taste of pork, just like I do not like the taste of
> your bullshit.
Don't dome me for that! Please! I tried, but could not fullfill your
needs. Don't dome me!
>This has nothing to do with my ego,
No!
>and everything to
> do with getting you to admit you were mistaken or lying. Which was it
> dearie?
Dome.
:-)
.Lily. (yuummy!)
Kat
I want to be. I do not envy them their jobs. Go ahead and pm one of
the mods and ask them if I am one.
A point that I will make here to you as I do not feel like bumping yet
another one of your threads: With regards to you signing your name
as .Lily., you stated " am almost sure I did not do that". You quoted
your op in several places on this board, which has your name tag at
the end. Not trying to be snarky when I say that, just trying to point
out where you did it.
Fled, retreat, more or less the same meaning in this instance. You
nitpick over words to try and cast doubt on me/ validate your point
when your logic is visibly flawed. Again, you try and distract from
the point I made with sarcasm and minutia. I like verifying data,
lily. I like researching and looking things up. I did nothing more
than check to see if your thread was somewhere on enturb, or if it was
deleted as you claim. Is not the mark of a good skeptic to always
question? Is it not the mark of a good skeptic to research before
coming to a conclusion?
My point to you has always been that your logic is flawed. Some
critics could very well be CoS plants, however it is statistically
impossible that ALL people on this board or enturb who disagree with
you are in fact, OSA or CoS. I am not playing games with you Lily. I
am only asking that you (for once) prove your ramblings by showing how
I am osa conclusively and not just make vague accusations that prove
nothing. Burden of proof falls to the accuser, Lily. You are making
yourself look like a fool, and I genuinely feel bad for you that you
cannot see it.
barb
Lily is talking about her Enturb entity, 2beanonymous, as if it is a
separate being. One that coincidentally uses the same bullshit material
and fractured English. Of course WE know lily is 2be, but she thinks we
don't. Shhh...don't tell her we know. She's like the Worst OSA Op Evar!
Personally, I like watching people play her like a pinata.
barb
If you were to search googlegroups for .lily/brickinthewall posts, all
would become clear. Nobody but OSA would waste so much time on
ineffectual attempts at misdirection and fail posts meant to stir up
mistrust between critics and now, anons as well.
Beware of people who try to PM you, anonymous! (lily is just so full of
"good advice!")
barb
> for a couple of months. If that doesn't work she'll be all over
> Bunker.
>
Ohhhh...TIGGER! I wondered who the hell he was talking about.
Tigger hasn't been around in a long while. I hope it's just that her
webtv died. She was pretty rabid about Minton etc and her main
self-appointed function seemed to be shuttling posts here from OCMB.
Still, I hope she's ok. I think she was damaged by the cult and never
got over it.
barb
I dunno.
"I did Anonymous" doesn't sound any more of a win than "I did the
Oakland Raiders." ;)
I mean, from what I've seen, Anonymous would do anyone who offered to
put it out thar...
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
> *eyeroll* I can hardly dome you on enturb as I am not a mod, nor
> would I want to be. I do not envy them their jobs. Go ahead and pm
> one of the mods and ask them if I am one.
I am so glad that you brought this important information about you
being a mod or not to my attention.
I was wondering all the time. "Kat! What about her! Is she a mod?"
Aaahh! What a relief.
<snip>
> Again, you try and distract from
> the point I made with sarcasm and minutia. I like verifying data,
> lily.
Ahh! Great. My back already hurts a bit from bowing to you.
If you and Nec would stand in a line, I would have a very hard time to
always switch between the two of you. Bowing from one to the other and
back and bowing and bowing.
>I like researching and looking things up. I did nothing more
> than check to see if your thread was somewhere on enturb, or if it
> was deleted as you claim. Is not the mark of a good skeptic to always
> question? Is it not the mark of a good skeptic to research before
> coming to a conclusion?
Bow! Bow! Bow!
<snip>
No, I am not playing games here with you, Kat. No. Really not.
Absolutely not.
:-)
.Lily.
barb
"Are some cake?"
You wouldn't be competing with the incomparable Babbles Schwarz for
Incomprehensible ESL Poster of the Month, by any chance?
Kat
validating my point with this little dance of yours, I hope you know
that. Your moves are tired and predictable, and not the showstopper
you think them to be. Again, I genuinely feel bad for you. It must be
difficult to go through life when you are that conceited and
delusional.
Kat
did the Oakland Raiders." ;) "
For some reason that made me think "Debbie Does Dallas" XD
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
> More sarcasm instead of actually proving yourself Lily. You are only
> validating my point with this little dance of yours, I hope you know
> that.
Ahem. What are you referring to?
>Your moves are tired and predictable, and not the showstopper
> you think them to be.
>Again, I genuinely feel bad for you.
That must be painful. Do you think, Aspirin would help you to feel
better?
>It must be
> difficult to go through life when you are that conceited and
> delusional.
Yes! I think so as well. Absolutely terrible! My, my. Not even Aspirin
can help I guess.
Ahhhh! It is so good, that I may be in your society, Kat. This
healthyness you are surronded with is literally almost unnatural. I
think *you* are the reason, why ars is such a sane place and such an
enjoyment for all the people who visit it and most of all for the
posters.
Do you think, healthyness is as contagous as disease?
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
> Kat <lady...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> More sarcasm instead of actually proving yourself Lily. You are only
>> validating my point with this little dance of yours, I hope you know
>> that.
>
> Ahem. What are you referring to?
>
>> Your moves are tired and predictable, and not the showstopper
>> you think them to be.
>
>> Again, I genuinely feel bad for you.
>
> That must be painful. Do you think, Aspirin would help you to feel
> better?
>
>> It must be
>> difficult to go through life when you are that conceited and
>> delusional.
>
> Yes! I think so as well. Absolutely terrible! My, my. Not even
> Aspirin can help I guess.
>
> Ahhhh! It is so good, that I may be in your society, Kat. This
> healthyness you are surronded with is literally almost unnatural. I
> think *you* are the reason, why ars is such a sane place and such an
> enjoyment for all the people who visit it and most of all for the
> posters.
>
> Do you think, healthyness is as contagous as disease?
contagious
>
> .Lily.
Kat
questions. You give vague half answers at best and offer no real
proof for your accusations. THAT is the "dance" that I refer to. You
are only trying to play a game at my expense... either to make me
either so mad I really let loose on you as so many other anons have so
you can BAWWW about it, or you actually think you are being clever. I
am not sure which of the two it is yet, quite frankly.
I do beleive however, that you think you are winning whatever game you
are playing because I continue to reply to you. I am only replying, at
this point, for two reasons. If I say "you bore me, I've made my
point, I'm done" you will claim you won. This is a logical fallacy.
You are searching for justification of your paranoid, illogical
beleifs, as well as trying to satiate your own ego and sense of self
importance by "defeating" other critics. (Thus somehow making you seem
more important than anyone else that disagrees with the policies of
the CoS.) The second reason is, quite frankly, I enjoy figuring out
what makes people do the things they do and I am trying to see if you
are anything other than a one trick pony. I've seen your standard
routine, and I'm wondering if you are capable of doing anything else.
Like, post information actually critical of scientology instead of
just critical of other anti-scientologists. What ARE your thoughts on
Xenu? Do you think DM is squirreling the tech? Do you find Hubbard's
drug use ironic considering his public stance on drugs, and the
resulting nonsense spit out by the CCHR hypocritical?
I am certain that you cannot back up your claims so you have to
resort to childish sarcasm and other tricks to try and distract others
from the fact that you have absolutely nothing to validate your claims
with. You CAN'T give me the simple proof I asked for because you have
none. You prove that time and time again whenever you reply to my
honest, fair question with sarcasm instead of actually answering me.
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
> You try to be clever and sarcastic rather than answer any direct
> questions. You give vague half answers at best and offer no real
> proof for your accusations. THAT is the "dance" that I refer to. You
> are only trying to play a game at my expense... either to make me
> either so mad I really let loose on you as so many other anons have
> so you can BAWWW about it, or you actually think you are being
> clever. I am not sure which of the two it is yet, quite frankly.
I consider this a question. And because I try hard to answer always and
with proof, I will answer honestly. Actually I think I am clever. And
my proof is, that someone as genius as you otherwise would never ever
talk to me.
Now it is again your turn, to answer my questions. I have asked some,
you did not answer yet, my, my!!
Hint: if you would not delete my postings to which you obviously refer
to, it would be easier for you to answer my questions, before you ask
me your questions. This is very unpolite behaviour, but I forgive and
even do the work for you.
----------------
Kat <lady...@comcast.net> wrote:
> More sarcasm instead of actually proving yourself Lily. You are only
> validating my point with this little dance of yours, I hope you know
> that.
Ahem. What are you referring to?
(note: answered!)
> Your moves are tired and predictable, and not the showstopper
> you think them to be.
> Again, I genuinely feel bad for you.
That must be painful. Do you think, Aspirin would help you to feel
better?
> It must be
> difficult to go through life when you are that conceited and
> delusional.
Yes! I think so as well. Absolutely terrible! My, my. Not even Aspirin
can help I guess.
Ahhhh! It is so good, that I may be in your society, Kat. This
healthyness you are surronded with is literally almost unnatural. I
think you are the reason, why ars is such a sane place and such an
enjoyment for all the people who visit it and most of all for the
posters.
Do you think, healthyness is as contagous as disease?
.Lily.
-------------------
Now to make it easier for you here are my still left unanswered
questions and after you answered them, you may ask me again. Now is
that a fair deal, or what?
Do you think, Aspirin would help you to feel better?
Do you think, healthyness is as contagious as disease?
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
> You try to be clever and sarcastic rather than answer any direct
> questions. You give vague half answers at best and offer no real
> proof for your accusations. THAT is the "dance" that I refer to. You
> are only trying to play a game at my expense... either to make me
> either so mad I really let loose on you as so many other anons have
> so you can BAWWW about it, or you actually think you are being
> clever. I am not sure which of the two it is yet, quite frankly.
I consider this a question. And because I try hard to answer always and
with proof, I will answer honestly. Actually I think, I am considered
clever. And
my proof is, that someone as genius as you otherwise would never ever
talk to me.
Now it is again your turn, to answer my questions. I have asked some,
you did not answer yet, my, my!!
Hint: if you would not delete my postings to which you obviously refer
to, it would be easier for you to answer my questions, before you ask
me your questions. This is very unpolite behaviour, but I forgive and
even do the work for you.
----------------
Kat <lady...@comcast.net> wrote:
> More sarcasm instead of actually proving yourself Lily. You are only
> validating my point with this little dance of yours, I hope you know
> that.
Ahem. What are you referring to?
(note: answered!)
> Your moves are tired and predictable, and not the showstopper
> you think them to be.
> Again, I genuinely feel bad for you.
That must be painful. Do you think, Aspirin would help you to feel
better?
> It must be
> difficult to go through life when you are that conceited and
> delusional.
Yes! I think so as well. Absolutely terrible! My, my. Not even Aspirin
can help I guess.
Ahhhh! It is so good, that I may be in your society, Kat. This
healthyness you are surronded with is literally almost unnatural. I
think you are the reason, why ars is such a sane place and such an
enjoyment for all the people who visit it and most of all for the
posters.
Do you think, healthyness is as contagous as disease?
.Lily.
-------------------
Now to make it easier for you here are the still left unanswered
questions and after you answered them, you may ask me again. Now is
that a fair deal, or what?
Do you think, Aspirin would help you to feel better?
Do you think, healthyness is as contagious as disease?
Kat
answer always and with proof, I will answer honestly. Actually I think
would never ever talk to me." Again, sarcasm. For the record, it was
not a question on my part, more an explanation of my interpretation of
your actions.
"Now it is again your turn, to answer my questions. I have asked some,
you did not answer yet, my, my!! " Where, I do not see them. "Hint: if
you would not delete my postings to which you obviously refer to, it
would be easier for you to answer my questions, before you ask me your
questions. This is very unpolite behaviour, but I forgive and even do
the work for you." I do not know how to delete jack shit on this peice
of shit group. It took me a good month just to get my spacing issues
solved so I didn't have to type a bunch of ***********s at the end of
every paragraph. Do please enlighten me, oh omniscient and benevolent
one. Humor me just this one time and directly ask me your questions
again, right here, in this thread, and I will do my best to answer.
xenu...@gmail.com
<lilyfire...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Epic Win!
>
> I did them on Enturbulation. Absolutely and completely. They fled to
> their dome, wanted me to go there as well.
> They did not dare to face me on the normal forum anymore. And they
> could not justify any punishment, because I did not use dirty language
> or other things at all.
>
> That was so funny, when they all hided in their dome and I was always
> calling them from outside and they just did not dare to get out.
>
> Then they saw, that they cannot get me there and did not know what to
> do else, so they just deleted my messages which they did not make them
> look "cool" and denied my access. A pity. I would like to play them
> moar! But they are such pussies!
>
> I had my laughs. I'll do that again. Somewhen. It is just too lulzy.
>
> .Lily.
enturbulate you in the proper Anon Way!
You would have had your ass handed to you on a dirty rotten platter.
lol
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
where they hide themselves as true cowards but torture the defenseles,
are not Anons, so what they can never go the proper Anon way. As much
as scientology would wish that be true. It is not and will never be.
The church of scientology will find out, what the proper Anon way is.
And there is nothing left, where they can flee to.
Wait.
And see.
Not even the dome will be a save camp for them.
.Lily.
--
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
> More sarcasm instead of actually proving yourself Lily. You are only
> validating my point with this little dance of yours, I hope you know
> that.
Ahem. What are you referring to?
> Your moves are tired and predictable, and not the showstopper
> you think them to be.
> Again, I genuinely feel bad for you.
That must be painful. Do you think, Aspirin would help you to feel
better?
> It must be
> difficult to go through life when you are that conceited and
> delusional.
Yes! I think so as well. Absolutely terrible! My, my. Not even Aspirin
can help I guess.
Ahhhh! It is so good, that I may be in your society, Kat. This
healthyness you are surronded with is literally almost unnatural. I
think you are the reason, why ars is such a sane place and such an
enjoyment for all the people who visit it and most of all for the
posters.
Do you think, healthyness is as contagious as disease?
.Lily.
--
Kat
me. How dull. Have nothing better to say? Or is the needle on the
record player stuck. "Ahem. What are you referring to?" By
continually dodging questions directed at you, in simple language, it
makes you look like you are evading them. You cannot provide proof
that I am osa or CoS because there is none, and you dodge the demand
for proof because you do not want to admit you were wrong or lying.
End of story.
"Those guys on enturbulation, who abuse Anonymous people in their
dome" They abuse EVERYONE lily. Nothing and no one are sacred. It's
chan culture. I dislike it personally, that is neither here nor there.
Its relegated to the dome, so people can go "play" there while we get
actual work done on enturb.
"...where they hide themselves as true cowards but torture the
defenseles, are not Anons, so what they can never go the proper Anon
way." Do you have any clue at all as to what "anonymous" originated
from? "The church of scientology will find out, what the proper Anon
way is." I have a suspicion you are trying to make a certain point
with this. I will not take your bait and let you say it yourself.
kennethno...@gmail.com
<lilyfire...@gmail.com> wrote:
> kennethnoisewat...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jul 22, 7:54 pm, Kat <ladyas...@comcast.net> wrote:
> <snip>
> > You're giving Lily way too much credit by typing all of this. Lily
> > is OSA or paid by OSA posing as a critic. Her pal TruthSeeker
> > doesn't post here anymore because we posted evidence that he was a
> > OSA or paid by OSA.
>
> Link please.
>
Lily, because both you and TruthSeeker are Scientologists or paid by
OSA, you are not allowed to do the following :
1. Post any critical books. Examples - Bare-Faced Messiah, The Scandal
of
Scientology by Paulette Cooper.
2. Post any actual critical material. Examples - All Lily posts is
gibberish with no factual base
3. Post anything critical of L. Ron Hubbard or post anything critical
of the tech. Examples - L. Ron Hubbard was never a war hero and
auditing is nothing more than just brainwashing.
I know there's more. These a just a few. PROVE ME WRONG LILY! Post
anything from numbers 1-3.
Link to Lily Exposed 4.0
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_thread/thread/a525097155eb2a8e/
or
http://tinyurl.com/5cvy7z
I need to find the links to TruthSeeker exposed. I remember when he
outed himself as a Scientologist and that's why he can't post here
anymore. That was funny.
> >So with that truth out there, OSA can't have
> > TruthSeeker post anymore. They just pay Lily to post links to his
> > old stuff and act extremely paranoid and crazy.
>
> If I were extremely paranoid and crazy, I would not have defeated the
> Thunderdome!
>
> I did it. In less than 24 hours!
>
How did you defeat the Thunderdome? How would someone do this? I
wanna know how it's even possible. The Enturbulation.org mods moved
your Scientology fagotry to the Thunderdome because of your insane
giggerish postings that could confuse a newbie or casual reader. They
saw through your Scientology Op of confusion quickly, and moved your
bullshit to the Thunderdome. It's not a reward to be moved there.
For anyone who hasn't seen Lilly's Thunderdome asshatory, it's worth a
read (NSFW):
http://forums.enturbulation.org/38-thunderdome/2beanonymous-grills-chefanon-visa-versa-split-23024/18/
I still don't understand the motives behind this one. Even OSA knows
that Anonymous would see through her bullshit in 2 seconds, so I don't
understand what the point was.
> > Shawn Lonsdale, RIP, told me that he had direct knowledge that
> > Truthseeker was some retard at a YMCA being paid a few dollars here
> > and there from Scientology.
>
> That is the lowest ever, included ars. To call a dead man as "witness"
> of lies.
There's nothing wrong with using someone's information after they are
dead. It's actually a tribute to use someone's knowledge and findings
after they are dead, almost like a legacy.
>
> >He also told me Tiger (remember her) was
> > not Scientology but some crazy old lady living in Oklahoma.
>
> > The end.
lol Tigger. Not Tiger. And I knew Shirley so well. I feel bad.
>
> Though I am a bit hungry, I have no appetite of you. This is just foul
> and rotten stuff.
>
> .Lily.
>
You're done here, you're exposed. It's time to get a new nic here you
fucking piece of slime. You'll have a nice warm place in Hell soon
enough.
--
Scientology Rulz!
http://www.scientologyrulz.com
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
> On Jul 23, 2:09 am, "The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed."
> <lilyfire...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> kennethnoisewat...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Jul 22, 7:54 pm, Kat <ladyas...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> You're giving Lily way too much credit by typing all of this. Lily
>>> is OSA or paid by OSA posing as a critic. Her pal TruthSeeker
>>> doesn't post here anymore because we posted evidence that he was a
>>> OSA or paid by OSA.
>>
>> Link please.
>>
>
>
> Lily, because both you and TruthSeeker are Scientologists or paid by
> OSA, you are not allowed to do the following :
Neither nor, as you know. Why are you trying to mislead the readers?
>
> 1. Post any critical books. Examples - Bare-Faced Messiah, The
> Scandal of
> Scientology by Paulette Cooper.
>
> 2. Post any actual critical material. Examples - All Lily posts is
> gibberish with no factual base
>
> 3. Post anything critical of L. Ron Hubbard or post anything critical
> of the tech. Examples - L. Ron Hubbard was never a war hero and
> auditing is nothing more than just brainwashing.
Wrong.
Don't know about Hubbard's biography and doubt, that he would have been
any hero at all, but that is not my main concern. I am not going to
study him like a scilon does. But to each what one wants.
But to say, that auditing is nothing more than just brainwashing is in
more than one sense wrong.
1.) "just" brainwashing? Just? It sounds as if that would not be much.
For my taste yet this is very much and I would not say "it is just
brainwashing, nothing more."
2.) of course it is much more. Afaik these sessions are recorded and
the results are saved. As far as I further know, those files have been
used to put people under pressure and threaten them with making details
public.
It is not "just" brainwashing, Kenneth, it is also "collecting private
material which can be used to blackmail people".
.Lily.
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kennethno...@gmail.com
<lilyfire...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip more Lilly Bullshit]
If you want to continue your Scientology bullshit, then I'll call you
on your bullshit.
If you are not a Scientologist or an OSA Op, do just one of the
following:
1. Post one critical book of Scientology that critics or yourself can
recommend. Examples - Bare-Faced Messiah, The Scandal of Scientology
by Paulette Cooper.
2. Post any actual critical material. Examples - Talk about the
deadly asbestos on the Free Winds
3. Post anything critical of L. Ron Hubbard or post anything critical
of the Scientology tech. Example - A critic would say that L. Ron
Hubbard was never a war hero and
auditing is nothing more than just brainwashing.
4. Post a URL link to a critical website that you would recommend -
Example - www.xenu.net www.enturbulation.org www.lisamcpherson.org
PROVE ME WRONG LILY! Post anything from my questions 1-4
IT'S REAL SIMPLE LILY! Numbers 1-4. Answer just one. Otherwise you
are an OSA Op.
Jonathon Barbera
FireRed." <lilyf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>What is going on on Enturbulation org? Is it under control of OSA already or what?
That is probable.
In an ideal world, you would be "OSA", too.
Smurf
wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:33:22 +0200, "The Impossible to handle .Lily
>
> >What is going on on Enturbulation org? Is it under control of OSA already or what?
>
> That is probable.
>
> In an ideal world, you would be "OSA", too.
She is OSA. So are you. So am I. So is Obama. No wait.. I take that
back.
WolfyRik
Enturb and now is whining due to being caught?
Wow, how thick are you, really? What's the matter, lily, you don't get
enough humiliation on these boards, so you have to go be obvious
amongst the most net-savvy and unforgiving people on the Web?
I'm guessing you're not just a regular OSA troll. You're also an
attention whore. I over-estimated you in the past, this is clear.
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed.
it. So here it is again, since it is such a pleasure for me to think
about how much fun I had in thunderdome.
I had my fun and lulzies there, when the mods tried to pull me into it.
They used force, which means, that I did not go there by my own will. I
was with the complete thread pulled into it against my will.
This is the first sign, that they are little ducks if there ever were
some. They could not stand something, which I said, because it made
them look like fools, to tell the truth, and so they pulled me with the
thread away.
Afterwards I went outside again in order to bring the discussion back
to the light of enturbulation and told them, to come out, and discuss
here with me. And I literally could feel how they were hiding in their
dome, all them powerful mods, shivering a little bit a mixture of
excitement, anticipation and little bit fear, under the protecting
wings of their big fat thunderdome-mum.
Then they started to bomb me with terrible pics, and all kinds of
mind-games. I wonder, how destroyed a person must already be, to
actually create or save that kind of stuff on their files and bring it
up and be proud of that. (I knew that from other osa-websites btw)
I went back outside of thunderdome, luring them like "Come out of
there, little duckies, I am not that bad as they always tell you. Just
a little bit hungry." Those were almost my (2beAnonymous') last words
there. I rofloled. They had promised to feed me. But now they
capitulated and saw no other option left, but to deny me access to
whole enturbulation org.
This is not an Anonymous controlled website or Internet-presentation in
order to support true criticism of the scientology-organisation. This
is an Internet site in order to keep people apart from criticism of the
scientology-organisation.
Proof: An Anonymous critic from France wrote about her experiences
there. I experienced something similar, but insisted in not being
pulled into their dome. But I can confirm that things like this happen
on enturbulation org.
French Anonymous could not avoid being pulled in there. For whatever
reasons, likely technical reasons as well. And while I could fight and
defeat them, others could not and can not.
This makes the thunderdome something, which is highly abusive. There is
no "not serious".
People are *seriously* hurt there, psychically at least. Probably their
property, like computers, is damaged as well and probably the psychic
abuse causes physical harm as well. It is not said, that physical
(visible) harm is in any way bigger than psychological harm. Often the
opposite is true.
There is no way to justify this by "all just for fun, nothing to be
taken serious" or other attempts to beautify it. When people are set
under this kind of continuing, strongly abusive visual attacks, and are
forced to look at it, the people are tortured. Torture is something
really serious.
Proof of that kind of torture committed against Anonymous:
http://groups.google.com:80/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/83beee9967a5db85
French Anonymous did not get a chance to leave. She was forced to stay,
in order to defend herself from being forged. Her posts have been
altered and she feared, understandably (!), that she could be hold
responsible for the forgeries, so she tried to correct as good as she
could, which she was denied. Now, that she brought that up and
published her experience she is in no danger anymore. That was a very
clever move of her.
And this - baby-duck-cowards-in-the-dome - is exactly the point, where
my lulzies go loose. Do you understand me?
This is the point, where I stop lulzying.
Do you get the point?
You weaklings; you hiders in the dome; you lulzylulzylulzy guise;
You harmed an Anonymous.
You hurt, you violated, you infringed, you wounded Anonymous.
What is the saying of Anonymous? What was it?
Ah, yes:
We will not forgive.
We will not forget.
Expect us.
Don't believe me? Well, you babyducks.
*I* did you.
Alone.
It took me less than 24 hours.
And I was not even angry.
Then.
.Lily.
Black Dianetic
Additionally I want to say, just in case someone doubts, that
enturbulation org is controlled by osa/scientology.
If someone is discussing whether to "black dianetic" another one, does
he not have to know about "white dianetic"?
And if someone is discussing, whether to apply "black dianetic" to
another one, does that not mean, that he firstly does apply "white
dianetic" as well?
"Dianetics" is a trademarked (?) concept of L.Ron Hubbard, the founder
of the church of scientology. It so to speak "is" scientology.
If one says, there is a black dianetic, does he not say, there is a
white dianetic as well?
Guess what:
There is no white dianetic.
There is just dianetic.
Survivors of the thunderdome know by now: All dianetic is black.
.Lily.
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