German critics maul Cruise as anti-Hitler hero
Tom Klemesrud
Culture minister Bernd Neumann hailed the film as "successfully helping
a chapter of German history that is little-known abroad becoming common
knowledge". Berlin even subsidised the film to the tune of 4.8 million
euros (6.3 million dollars).
But a conservative MP refused to let the Scientology issue die quietly,
calling for a boycott of the premiere over Cruise's membership in the
"sect", in a letter to fellow deputies obtained by the daily Die Welt.
The politician, Michael Brand, said Stauffenberg was "a globally
recognised symbolic figure against the totalitarianism of the Nazis"
while Cruise was "a top figure in a totalitarian, anti-democratic
organisation."
barbz
He's got that right.
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Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC
"Every week, every month, every year, every decade and now
every century, Scientology does weird and stupid things
to damage its own reputation."
-Steve Zadarnowski
"Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
Scientology."
-ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide."
-Chris Leithiser
Barbara Schwarz
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jYbsPxTQY3mhtHXeqJ...
>
> Culture minister Bernd Neumann hailed the film as "successfully helping
> a chapter of German history that is little-known abroad becoming common
> knowledge". Berlin even subsidised the film to the tune of 4.8 million
> euros (6.3 million dollars).
>
> But a conservative MP refused to let the Scientology issue die quietly,
> calling for a boycott of the premiere over Cruise's membership in the
> "sect", in a letter to fellow deputies obtained by the daily Die Welt.
>
> The politician, Michael Brand, said Stauffenberg was "a globally
> recognised symbolic figure against the totalitarianism of the Nazis"
Stauffenberg was a Nazi and no hero. He planned and executed an
unsuccessful (what a surprise!) Hitler assassination because the
Allied came, ready to kick Hitler's and Stauffenbergs Nazi butts. And
who says Stauffenberg was indeed executed?
Hitler came away like Bin Laden. All they found was a burned uniform.
Go figure! Who says that Stauffenberg was indeed executed and did not
just get another identity or lived later at Hitler's place as award
for his weak little bomb?
I know the Germans, that is why I say, the Stauffenberg here story is
not true.
Barbara Schwarz
Quaoar
The Germans certainly have a way to make a silk purse from a sow's ear!
The Germans want, desperately, to believe that Stauffenburg wanted to
destroy the NAZI party. OK, good on the Germans.
OTOH, Stauffenburg and his fellow conspirators were going to activate
the home guard to take over Germany following Hitler's death. So, the
home guard was going to take out the SS and the Gestapo? Someone please
tell me how THAT would happen? How would the conspirators take out the
elite of the NAZI party? Someone will have to come up with a good
explanation for the bonus points!
Frankly, Stauffenburg and his fellows wanted to remove Hitler simply
because they believed the Hitler had degenerated and was leading NAZI
Germany to lose the war. They believed that NAZI Germany would remain
viable with another NAZI leader, even if the war were lost.
How Stauffenberg and his cohorts were going to destroy the SS, the
Gestapo, and all of the rest of the militarized NAZI control
organizations *inside Germany* remains unexplained. When Valkyrie was
initiated, it had nothing to do with replacing the NAZI government, but
only replacing Hitler as the Leader and keeping order in the streets.
The Germans might want to promote another story about Stauffenburg, but
he was a NAZI, and remained a NAZI at his death.
Q
Black Mamba
news:dzadl.17$8a...@newsfe08.iad...
| Tom Klemesrud wrote:
| >
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jYbsPxTQY3mhtHXeqJhYprcWgiZQ
| >
| >
| > Culture minister Bernd Neumann hailed the film as "successfully helping
| > a chapter of German history that is little-known abroad becoming common
| > knowledge". Berlin even subsidised the film to the tune of 4.8 million
| > euros (6.3 million dollars).
| >
| > But a conservative MP refused to let the Scientology issue die quietly,
| > calling for a boycott of the premiere over Cruise's membership in the
| > "sect", in a letter to fellow deputies obtained by the daily Die Welt.
| >
| > The politician, Michael Brand, said Stauffenberg was "a globally
| > recognised symbolic figure against the totalitarianism of the Nazis"
| > while Cruise was "a top figure in a totalitarian, anti-democratic
| > organisation."
|
| He's got that right.
|
And you have a lot of things right about you too young lady.
The Holocaust is a sad thing and the Scientologists led by Tom Cruise in
this trash B Movie remake of a forgotten film remind the German people of a
redo of that era because of the way they talk about Psychiatrists all the
time.
And just to mention, I was just browsing the newsgroup and it looks
like Angela Gupta and Trudy Johnson {a.k.a. The A.R.S. Girls} have posted
like 100 more made up things today about Psychiatry. I keep wondering who in
the hell are they discussing this with? You see, if Scientologists spend all
day talking about Psychiatry -- this is why no one believes Scientology any
more.
I dropped in on a You Tube anti-Scientology video of you and Tory a
little while ago? VERY INTERESTING! I wonder if Tory realizes how popular
she is on the internet ESPECIALLY as regards Scientology. Just Google Tory
Christman for example:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Tory+Christman&search_type=&aq=f
and enough videos show up to fill a hard drive.
Larry
{LaserClam Is Like A Pit Viper!}
Barbara Schwarz
> Tom Klemesrud wrote:
> >http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jYbsPxTQY3mhtHXeqJ...
I don't agree with anything you write but with this. Stauffenberg was
a Nazi and glorifying him would be the last I would do as
Scientologist. And I doubt he was really executed. Just for show, as
Hitler's "execution. I know the German Nazi minds and how they trick
others. But not me.
Barbara Schwarz
Alex Clark
"Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:11fb4284-e4b4-4576...@p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com...
> Stauffenberg was
> a Nazi and glorifying him would be the last I would do as
> Scientologist.
Yet one of the most prominent scientologists on the planet, noted
heterosexual Tom Cruise, had a great time glorifying him.
Quaoar
The irony, the irony....
Q
Hein. T. Schaylich
"Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:8060efb2-2064-4ccf...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Hitler came away like Bin Laden. All they found was a burned uniform.
Go figure!
Yeah!
I have it from reliable sources that Hitler is alive and well and teaching
primary school in Arkansas.
Why are you lifting all these secrets?
Who says that Stauffenberg was indeed executed and did not
just get another identity or lived later at Hitler's place as award
for his weak little bomb?
It looks like you are saying this.
I know the Germans, that is why I say, the Stauffenberg here story is
not true. Barbara Schwarz
Are you also a German?
Who can one trust these days?
Ball of Fluff
Cruise is an actor. He was also in Interview with the Vampire. He wasn't a
vampire either. Go figure.
C
Peter Widmer
> "Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:8060efb2-2064-4ccf...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> Hitler came away like Bin Laden. All they found was a burned uniform.
> Go figure!
>
>
>
>
> Yeah!
> I have it from reliable sources that Hitler is alive and well and teaching
> primary school in Arkansas.
Ich hatte seinerzeit auch ältere Lehrer, aber einen 120jährigen hatte
ich noch nie :-)
Psychibarbie lebt in ihre selbstgebastelten Wahnwelt, nicht mal
Scientology will sie haben.
> Why are you lifting all these secrets?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Who says that Stauffenberg was indeed executed and did not
> just get another identity or lived later at Hitler's place as award
> for his weak little bomb?
>
>
>
> It looks like you are saying this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I know the Germans, that is why I say, the Stauffenberg here story is
> not true. Barbara Schwarz
>
>
>
>
> Are you also a German?
> Who can one trust these days?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Peter Widmer <pwi...@quicknet.ch>
3803 Beatenberg <http://www.pewid.ch>
Michael
news:gl3sh9$dj3$1...@atlas.ip-plus.net...
> Hein. T. Schaylich schrieb:
>> "Barbara Schwarz" <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:8060efb2-2064-4ccf...@t26g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> Hitler came away like Bin Laden. All they found was a burned uniform.
>> Go figure!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah!
>> I have it from reliable sources that Hitler is alive and well and teaching
>> primary school in Arkansas.
>
> Ich hatte seinerzeit auch ältere Lehrer, aber einen 120jährigen hatte ich
> noch nie :-)
>
> Psychibarbie lebt in ihre selbstgebastelten Wahnwelt, nicht mal Scientology
> will sie haben.
Tsja, um eine gehirngewaschene Person nochmals verdrehen zu können bedarf es
eben ein wenig mehr Kompetenz, als es ein Scientologe je haben könnte/würde
:-) Scientology versucht sich in Gehirnwäsche, schafft dies aber nur Bedingt
gut. Es fehlt an Geheimhaltung :-)
>> Why are you lifting all these secrets?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Who says that Stauffenberg was indeed executed and did not
>> just get another identity or lived later at Hitler's place as award
>> for his weak little bomb?
>>
>>
>>
>> It looks like you are saying this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I know the Germans, that is why I say, the Stauffenberg here story is
>> not true. Barbara Schwarz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you also a German?
>> Who can one trust these days?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Michael
Jens Tingleff
Hash: SHA1
Ball of Fluff wrote:
>
>
> Cruise is an actor. He was also in Interview with the Vampire. He wasn't a
> vampire either. Go figure.
>
Well, yes, if he kept his "religion" separate from his status as a "star"
and if his "religion" did not keep on about Nazi Germany every time the
elected politicians and officials of Germany takes the totalitarian cult
known as the "church" <spit> of $cientology to task for its illegal
activities.
However, in the real world, things are not that simple ;-)
Another critic said it better, wondering how Americans would feel if Kim
Jong-il shot a film about George Washington, starring himself, on location
in the US ;-)
Best regards
Jens
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> Ball of Fluff wrote:
>
> > Cruise is an actor. He was also in Interview with the Vampire. He wasn't a
> > vampire either. Go figure.
>
> Well, yes, if he kept his "religion" separate from his status as a "star"
> and if his "religion" did not keep on about Nazi Germany every time the
> elected politicians and officials of Germany takes the totalitarian cult
> known as the "church" <spit> of $cientology to task for its illegal
> activities.
>
> However, in the real world, things are not that simple ;-)
>
> Another critic said it better, wondering how Americans would feel if Kim
> Jong-il shot a film about George Washington, starring himself, on location
> in the US ;-)
Hey, this whole problem can be solved if Davie Miscavige starts
performing in films. Then he can personally get across the messages
he's channeling from Source without having to rely on an intermediary.
All Davie needs is a few acting lessons from Milton Katselis. But
oops! He'll have to channel those too. Oh, well....
>
> Best regards
>
> Jens
>
> - --
> Key ID 0x09723C12, jenst...@tingleff.org
Maureen
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jYbsPxTQY3mhtHXeqJ...
>
> a chapter of German history that is little-known abroad becoming common
> knowledge". Berlin even subsidised the film to the tune of 4.8 million
> euros (6.3 million dollars).
>
> But a conservative MP refused to let the Scientology issue die quietly,
> calling for a boycott of the premiere over Cruise's membership in the
> "sect", in a letter to fellow deputies obtained by the daily Die Welt.
>
> The politician, Michael Brand, said Stauffenberg was "a globally
> recognised symbolic figure against the totalitarianism of the Nazis"
> while Cruise was "a top figure in a totalitarian, anti-democratic
> organisation."
http://www.myparkmag.co.uk/articles/celebrity/tom-cruises-great-uniform.html
'Tom Cruise's great uniform
Monday, 12 January 2009
Tom Cruise says the Nazis "had great uniforms..."
Tom, 46, told Britain's Daily Mail newspaper: "I have to
tell you, they had great uniforms, great designs. But there
was a perversion with those things..."They took symbols that were good
and they inverted the aesthetics. My immediate response was, 'I hate
this uniform.'
--
"The uniform that von Stauffenberg (picture) and Tom Cruise are
wearing is not an SS uniform (which should be a black tunic with the
double lightning insignia. The uniform that Cruise is wearing is a
regular Wehrmacht (Army ) tunic."
--
Men in Black....
http://www.whale.to/b/symbols_h.html
'The sig rune used by the Nazis - appears on the Scientology
International Management Organization's symbol - a red square
enclosing a white disc and set off by four lightning flashes or sig
runes. The swastika of the Nazi flag has been replaced by the
Scientology "S and double triangle". The symbol of the Religious
Technology Center is surrounded by sig runes. The sig rune is
otherwise peculiar to the Nazis.'
" http://img2.scientology.org/pics/std/religion/management/pg402.jpg "
Tom Claus "Schenk" Von Stauffenberg
http://www.lermanet.com/scientology-and-occult/valkyrie-and-scientology.htm
Maureen
Ball of Fluff
"Jens Tingleff" <jens_t...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Ball of Fluff wrote:
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>>
>>
>> Cruise is an actor. He was also in Interview with the Vampire. He wasn't
>> a
>> vampire either. Go figure.
>>
>
> Well, yes, if he kept his "religion" separate from his status as a "star"
> and if his "religion" did not keep on about Nazi Germany every time the
> elected politicians and officials of Germany takes the totalitarian cult
> known as the "church" <spit> of $cientology to task for its illegal
> activities.
>
> However, in the real world, things are not that simple ;-)
No, they surely aren't.
How many times have we been subjected to the various maunderings re religion
and politics by non Scn celebs? It's meaningless.
>
> Another critic said it better, wondering how Americans would feel if Kim
> Jong-il shot a film about George Washington, starring himself, on location
> in the US ;-)
I wouldn't compare Cruise to Kim Jong-Il.
C
John
"Eldon" <Eldo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 20, 10:45 am, Jens Tingleff <jens_tingl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hey, this whole problem can be solved if Davie Miscavige starts
> performing in films. Then he can personally get across the messages
> he's channeling from Source without having to rely on an intermediary.
> All Davie needs is a few acting lessons from Milton Katselis. But
> oops! He'll have to channel those too. Oh, well....
>>
Unfortunately, TLotR trilogy has already been made, Charlie and The
Chocolate Factory has been made twice, as has The Wizard of Oz.
Jens Tingleff
Hash: SHA1
Ball of Fluff wrote:
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> "Jens Tingleff" <jens_t...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Ball of Fluff wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> Cruise is an actor. He was also in Interview with the Vampire. He wasn't
>>> a
>>> vampire either. Go figure.
>>>
>>
>> Well, yes, if he kept his "religion" separate from his status as a "star"
>> and if his "religion" did not keep on about Nazi Germany every time the
>> elected politicians and officials of Germany takes the totalitarian cult
>> known as the "church" <spit> of $cientology to task for its illegal
>> activities.
>>
>> However, in the real world, things are not that simple ;-)
>
>
> No, they surely aren't.
>
> How many times have we been subjected to the various maunderings re
> religion and politics by non Scn celebs? It's meaningless.
>
If Tom Cruise uses the status given to him by his work (i.e. as someone who
is interviewed by popular media) to give out very bad medical advice
because of his religion, then I say his religion is not separate from his
work.
If Germans have a bad attitude to a totalitarian organisation which is
avowedly anti-democratic, then I don't see the problem.
>>
>> Another critic said it better, wondering how Americans would feel if Kim
>> Jong-il shot a film about George Washington, starring himself, on
>> location in the US ;-)
>
>
> I wouldn't compare Cruise to Kim Jong-Il.
>
Sure, he's only the number two in the criminal organisation known as
the "church" <spit> of $cientology
;-) ;-)
Best Regards
Jens
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Maureen
> Tom Klemesrud wrote:
> >http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jYbsPxTQY3mhtHXeqJ...
>
This is an interesting observation, and humbling position for Germany,
for which it has learned from its past. This is true in a sense, of
how the humiliation of belonging to a group such as $cientology
traverses into humility and remorse for the past, as opposed to
ressurecting others crimes to the point of holding people in the
totalitarian structure.
$cientology uses the movie, as motivation to feign a social Democracy
as bait for their totalitarian/Nazi Gleigeschaltung.
Scientology chose Claus Schenk Von Stauffenberg as they could have
chosen anyone else around Hitler at the time, as everyone was a Nazi
under Hitlerian rule. Von Stauffenberg's mind set was departing from
that role, (and he wrote much poetry about Hitler being the anti-
christ) which shows recognition for the fact that Hitler's aesthetic
use of faith to undermine was evil. $cientology would use the
perversion of 'faith' as a 'Bridge.'
Place one of the high level $cientology representatives who wanted to
leave, in the place of Von Stauffenberg, as a comparison to how
$cientology would use that power to make him still, 'a Nazi,' to keep
them in, or resurrect crimes to never allow that person to be
publically viewed as a poitive influence or, to be a cog in the wheel
of change. Well, $cientology would fight hard from allowing that
person to be viewed as a hero or a catalyst.
As much as $cientology would not promote feelings of remorse for
riding the Nazi role, to the hilt. In the Nazi trance, there is no
faith, hence, no remorse or forgiveness for individual war crimes, or
for anyone elses.
Maureen
'Evidence of esoteric beliefs during the Nuremberg
trials was suppressed in order to prevent the Nazi
heirarchy from escaping prosecution by pleas
of insanity. "large bodies of existing evidence were
too bizzarre to be admitted"'
page 240
"Secret Germany, Claus Von Stauffenberg and the Mystical Crusade
Against Hitler" ISBN 0-224-03525-8
"Let me be blunt" he declared to one young officers whose services he
wished to
recruit. "With all the resources at my disposal, I'm committing high
treason."
---Claus Von Stauffenberg
He could take down his own cult by explaining the same parallel that
echoes what
Stauffenberg knew, and what history resembles Hitler and the Third
$cientological
Reich :
In meetings with co-conspirators, (Stauffenberg) would often recite
fragments from
the work of Stefan George, his former mentor..one of the greatest
German-language
poets of the century. In particular he would quote from a poem
entitled, 'Der
Widercrist' (The Antichrist) which now seemed an uncanny
foresight...:As Nazism
gained first support, then power in Germany, certain of George's poems
came
increasingly to be seen as prescient. Der Widercrist was eventually to
become the
mantra for Stauffenberg's circle of conspirators. Yet as Hitler first
suddenly
embarked on his quest for Germany, the poem could already be seen as
prophetic.
He comes from the mountains, he stands mid the pines
We saw it ourselves! He transforms into wine
Clear Water, and trafficks with dead men!
Wise men and dullards, the mob, frenzied, reels,
Tramples the cornfields, tears up the trees.
Make way for the flock of the Risen!
No wonder of heaven but I can't perform.
A hairs-breadth impure, but you'll not note the fraud
With your stunted and stultified senses.
And what the great prophet renounced I extol:
An art without ploughing or sowing or toil
Which yet drains the soil of its essense.
The high prince of vermin extends his domains;
No pleasure eludes him, no treasure or gain.
And down with the dregs of rebellion!
You then stretch your tongues to the now arid trough,
Mill witless as kine through pasture aflame,
While fearfully brazens the trumpet.
You cheer mesmerized by demoniac sheen,
Exhaust what remains of the honey of dawn,
And only then sense the debacle.
The Antichrist in the poem derives in part from the figure in
Revelation 19:20:
And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its
presence had
worked the signs by which he deceived those who had received the
mark of the beast
and those who worshipped his image.
By 1933, it was already apparent how dangerously Hitler conformed to
the pattern -
apparent to George at least, and to others with eyes to see. (Thomas
Mann, for
example, had already published his minatory 'Mario and the Magician'.
Hermann Broch
was already at work on the novel subsequently to be published in
English (The Spell)
As the decade progressed and the Nazis consolidated their positions,
George's poem
became ever more apposite.
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> "We might create a Bible lesson over food, and go into the kitchen or go
> outside and talk about nature and creation," Fane said.
> Brown, Fane and Tiffany Fane, the assistant superintendent of Bethesda's
> Sunday School, said they believe prayer in homes will make a difference
> and save children's lives.
> "They use what they learn outside church," Leslie Fane said. "They have
> told me about times they pray for people or are having problems at
> school and prayed about it."
> A 10-year-old boy comes to almost every service Bethesda has to offer
> without his parents, Brown said.
> "He hardly ever misses," she said. "He came through Vacation Bible
> School and has been coming ever since. He comes Sunday mornings,
> Wednesday evenings and movie night."
> Brown said 60 percent of the youths at Bethesda attend without parents.
> "I think it's awesome," said Leslie Fane, who helped implement the Youth
> Equals Success program at Oakwood and Alton Acres housing projects in
> approximately 1990. "It's an opportunity to really reach the families.
> Some of these situations children live in can build up, but skills here
> can help them."
> Fane said some of the life skills that were taught there are
> incorporated into the Kids' Academy.
> "One thing we're trying to do is give the whole church to members of
> families," Brown said.
> Remnant Worship Center has similar ideals to Bethesda Temple and also
> plans to create a literacy program through Applied Scholastics.
> "We want to try to create a hub for kids below average in grade level
> and tutor them, so they don't end up in jail," said Sonja Stiles,
> assistant to her husband, Pastor Lozell Stiles, both of Remnant Worship
> Center.
> Remnant Worship Center also draws on A Beka Book concepts.
> A Beka Book provides Christian schools with God-honoring textbooks and
> teaching aids to help each school fulfill the goal of its ministry.
> "There are barriers while studying, not just for kids but also adults,"
> Sonja Stiles said. "We want to partner with parents and show them the
> educational tools to recognize how to study."
Under SS Auspices, schools called 'Napolas' were established for the
education and
indoctrination of selected members of the Hitler Youth. The Erl King,
Michael
Tournier evokes the way in which, at these 'Napolas' future SS
personnel celebrated
Christmas:
All the Jungmannen were gathered in the armory around a glittering
Christmas tree,
for the ceremony of the Yule festival. It was not the birth of Christ
that was being
celebrated, but that of the Sun Child, risen from his ashes at the
winter solstice.
The suns trajectory had reached its lowest level and the day was the
shortest of the
year: the death of the sun god was therefore lamented as an impending
cosmic
fatality. Funeral chants celebrating the woe of the earth and the
inhospitableness od
the sky praised the dead luminary's virtues and begged him to return
among men...
(Note: Although the Solstice begins on the 21st-22nd of December, the
23rd is a very
special Personal Day for Father. The Sun enters the sign of the Goat
which represents
Satan. The Night of December 22nd- the eve of December 23rd is the
Highest Satanic
Holy Night of the year.)
It was religion then, not as any conventional political idology, that
National
Socialism was to sweep through Germany and elicit fanatical adherence
from th
populace. Under National Socialism, the gods of the ancient teutonic
pantheon would
indeed emerge anew, asserting a self-arrogated supremacy over Judeo
Christian
tradition and theology.
Wotan - the 'berserker, god of storms, wanderer, warrior, Wunsch, and
Minne God, lord
of the dead, Einherier, dead hero of Valhalla, magician-' would once
again gust
through the colletive psyche like the raging wind from whch his
original name
derived. Nazi Germany would be the only state in modern Western
history to rest
ultimately not on social, economic or political pronciples, but on
spiritual, even
magical ones. The spirituality however, was warped, malevolent and
demonic, and the
magic - if magic can be defined as a metaphor for the manipulative
relationship
between consciousness and will on the one hand, and external phenomena
and people on
the other - conformed to the traditional tenets of so-called 'black
magic'. It was
the magic that had first entered Christian thought through the
biblical figure Simon
Magus, the Samaritan 'Antichrist' whose miracles while ostensibly
matching Peter's
remained a hair's-breadth impure' and therefore intrinsically rotten.
If the Third Reichs's fusion of rational and irrational is disquieting
to the
'civilised' modern Western mind, it is not without precedent in Judao-
Christian
tradition. Indeed the very precedent it subliminally evokes may have
much to do with
the quiet it engenders. For it is precisely the volatile, mercurial
relationship
between rationality and irrationality that the Third Reich conforms to
traditional
Judao-Christian concepts of the devil. Christian theologians have
never
satisfactorily determined exactly who or what their devil exactly is -
what
principles he reflects, what the lineal descendant (or reincarnation)
of horned,
goat-tailed and cloven-hooved Pan, avatar of 'ungenerate nature', of
man's unredeemed
'lower' or 'bestial' self or anarchy chaos... The very word
'Pandemonium' was
originally one of the names for hell.
(from Secret Germany
Claus Von Stauffenberg and the
Mystical Crusade Against Hitler)
Maureen
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http://www.freeminds.org/psych/thought_reform.htm
How Thought Reform works
by the late Margaret Thaler Singer, Ph. D.
"The Korean War "Manchurian Candidate" misconception of the need for
suggestibility-increasing drugs, and physical pain and torture, to
effect thought reform, is generally associated with the old concepts
and models of brainwashing. Today, they are not necessary for a
coercive persuasion program to be effective. With drugs, physical
pain, torture, or even a physically coercive threat, you can often
temporarily make someone do something against their will. You can even
make them do something they hate or they really did not like or want
to do at the time. They do it, but their attitude is not changed...
Terminology note: Today Mind control or brainwashing in academia is
commonly referred to as coercive persuasion, coercive psychological
systems or coercive influence. The short description below comes from
Dr. Margaret Singer professor emeritus at the University of
California at Berkeley the acknowledged leading authority in the world
on mind control and cults. This document, in substance, was presented
to the U.S. Supreme Court as an educational Appendix on coercive
psychological systems in the case Wollersheim v. Church of Scientology
89-1367 and 89-1361. The Wollersheim case was being considered related
to issues involving abuse in this area.
Coercion is defined as, "to restrain or constrain by force..." Legally
it often implies the use of physical force or physical or legal
threat. This traditional concept of coercion is far better understood
than the technological concepts of "coercive persuasion" which are
effective restraining, impairing, or compelling through the gradual
application of psychological forces.
A coercive persuasion program is a behavioral change technology
applied to cause the "learning" and "adoption" of a set of behaviors
or an ideology under certain conditions. It is distinguished from
other forms of benign social learning or peaceful persuasion by the
conditions under which it is conducted and by the techniques of
environmental and interpersonal manipulation employed to suppress
particular behaviors and to train others. Over time, coercive
persuasion, a psychological force akin in some ways to our legal
concepts of undue influence, can be even more effective than pain,
torture, drugs, and use of physical force and legal threats..."
(...)
Maureen