Tommy Gorman Fan Club
Smurf
obscene dog
<Miscavige....@gmail.com> wrote:
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>http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5169/41292579au6.png
Tory's pet thug.
http://i33.tinypic.com/qxrvb5.jpg
Tommy Gorman (moar liek Tommy "Gormless", amirite?)
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for over 10 years!
I am a big fan of Tommy Gorman
"...Secrecy is the keystone of all tyranny. Not force, but secrecy...
censorship. When any government, or any church for that matter,
undertakes to say to its subjects, 'This you may not read, this you
must not see, this you are forbidden to know,' the end result is
tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives." --Robert A.
Heinlein, -If This Goes On
May 25, 2005 Tom Gorman, blond hair, flower pattern shirt, handing out
flyers on the left
lermanet.com Exposing the CON
Interview of Ex-Scientologist of Tom Gorman
By Arnie Lerma
16 September 2005
Arnie: What was your job called at Scientology in San Francisco?
Gorman: I was an OSA Volunteer
Arnie: What sorts of things would you be called upon to do?
Gorman: To confront and deal with Sps, to handle Sps.
Arnie: When did you do this?
Gorman: 1990 through the beginning of 2000
Arnie: Were there any specific names you called upon to deal with?
Gorman: Kristi Wachter who runs Scientology-lies.com in San Francisco
and Realpeach in Oakland California.
Arnie: Describe what you did to handle Kristi Wachter
Gorman: I went to her home, to pass out flyers and give them to all
her neighbors, so when she came home and came outside she would see
her face everywhere saying she was a bigot. When I would see a crowd
of people nearby, I would say things like: "you are psychotic", "You
came out of an institution", "you like to fuck little cats", "See you
later Psycho" to get her angry, so she would look crazy to others. "I
know you don't like men"
Arnie: Describe what you did to handle Peaches
I would talk in a very smart ass voice, tell her she was ugly and old,
tell me your crimes peaches, I said: "You are psychotic" "you are
crazy" "no one cares about you" "the world would be better without you
on it" "You are a bitch" "You are a bigot" "I'm never going to leave
until you stop picketing my church" "I'm going to let all your
neighbors know what a psychopath you are"
Arnie: Who told you to do and say these things and what did they
direct you to say and do?
In my presence, Scientology's Director of Special Affairs (DSA) of the
Office of Special Affairs (OSA) for San Francisco, Church of
Scientology who is Jeff Quiros, stated the following:
"Under oath doesn't mean shit."
Arnie: Did he say this often?
Mr. Gorman: He said this at least ten times.
Arnie: what else did he say?
Mr. Gorman: Jeff Quiros said that "The court system is just a bunch of
WOGs and they are suppressive and that the US government is
suppressive"
"The police dept., the FBI and the court system are all suppressive,
they are all a bunch of morons and they are down stats and can't get
real jobs. The court system is designed to take any bad down stat (bad
person) so they can torpedo an up stat (good person) and bring them
down. The Police are a bunch of crooks and especially the FBI. The FBI
is the number one terrorist group in the United States" And then he
showed me a written green on white policy by Hubbard that stated this.
Arnie: Did he direct the picketing?
He directed our conduct, yet stressed this: "You cannot tell them I
had any involvement, I did not tell you to do any of this, and you
don't even know me" He would remind me of this EVERY time we would
picket Kristi or Peaches. Jeff Quiros said, "I could get sued for
this. The church would get in a lot of trouble and it would be all
your fault"
Arnie: What did he tell you to do or say??
Mr. Gorman: To whisper very mean things into the ear of the person I
was picketing whenever there were a group of people coming so that she
would react badly in front of the people and look like a psycho-path.
He told me to say specifically, "Kristi, you like to fuck little cats"
"you practice bestiality" and then we both started laughing.. and to
call her "psycho", because we knew this would get her upset.
Jeff Quiros also told me; "You can do anything to an SP and not get
into trouble for it" "A suppressive group is made up of a bunch of
SP's." He said "Get little kids around the neighborhood to pop the
lady's tires, ruin her plants and break some windows in her house,
give them candy for doing these deeds."
He said: "When the police finally arrive from the picketing, make them
believe that we are completely normal people and the people we are
picketing are psychotic and paranoid. Be friendly with the police and
become their friends, and make them like you.
Arnie: What effect did your efforts have upon the police?
Mr. Gorman: Based on Jeff Quiros instruction to me, I was not just
friendly with the police, but I became their friends. I would tell the
police that Kristi was a psycho, tell them that she pickets our
church.
After a while, the police stopped responding to Kristi and Peach's
telephone calls, when Scientology would harass her at home. But
Peaches would call the police every time, after a while the police
stopped coming.
Jeff Quiros said: "After 6 times the police come to that location in
one week, the police will stop coming because they will believe the
person calling them is psychotic and paranoid. He told me if it ever
comes to a time when we all have to go to court, not to worry about it
because the Scientology lawyers are great and they will tell us how to
act and behave and to just do exactly what they say. Lying under Oath
is a normal thing for Scientologists because it's the greatest good
for the greatest number of dynamics, and we are doing nothing wrong by
changing the story since they are suppressive (bad) people and
Scientologists are here to save the planet from those people. Then he
said "SP's and suppressive groups hate all organizations that fix
peoples lives and help people, and they want to ruin those people and
organizations utterly. Scientology is the only organization that does
this on the planet"
Mr. Gorman: We became their 'friends'; they started to believe that
she was 'crazy'
Arnie: Did the police continue to respond?
Mr. Gorman: After they came to Peaches Pook's home about ten times the
police stopped coming.
Arnie: So, would it be fair to say, that this is the one part of
scientology that really works?
Mr. Gorman: Yes, it is the only part. He was making fun of Judges in
general saying they look like Penguins and how they think they are all
mighty and great. He said Judges do their jobs as well as nuns do, and
he began to laugh, the joke was, he said that there is no God and so
those people serving God don't do anything anyway.
It was common knowledge that SP's (Suppressive persons, enemies of
scientology) are subject to being tricked, lied to, sued, or destroyed
- they have no regard for people outside of Scientology and they
believe they can do anything they want to SP's and not get punished
for it because they believe that Scientologists are above the law.
Arnie: Did you do these techniques to anyone else besides Kristi and
Realpeach?
Mr. Gorman: Yes, a psychiatrist at a hospital in San Francisco, near
Funston Street.
Arnie: What was his name?
Mr. Gorman: I never knew his name.
Arnie: How did you know whom to picket?
I was shown a picture. Often of two or three different targets, if we
would see one of them we would picket them and pass out flyers about
how horrible psychiatry is
Arnie: Whom else did Jeff Quiros mention?
Mr. Gorman: Arnie Lerma - the Internet freak that posted the OT levels
on the net. He told me that Arnie and a couple others's dressed up in
Sea org member suits and showed a fake order tricking them into giving
you the documents.
Arnie: How often would he talk about me?
Mr. Gorman: perhaps ten times, often, I knew your name very well, what
else would say about me? He said, "You are psychotic, that you are a
criminal, an SP, and sent down to destroy scientology by the
psychiatrists.
Arnie: Are there any other enemies of scientology he would mention by
name?
A: Bob Minton
Arnie: What did he say about Bob?
Mr. Gorman: That he was money motivated made up a fabricated story
about a girl dying which is completely untrue and is trying to get
money out of scientology.
Arnie: continue
Mr. Gorman: Gerry Armstrong , Gerry is a pathological liar, one of the
biggest SPs around who is trying to destroy scientology. Then he would
blabber on about mankind trying to get me all pumped up
Arnie: Any other names mentioned that you recall?
Mr. Gorman: Ford Greene, Jeff said Ford Greene is one of the only
attorneys willing to take on Scientology but he will be taken care of
soon.
Arnie: Thank you The end.
9:49 PM Friday September 16th 2005, at the Office of lermanet.com
Exposing the CON 6045 N 26th Road Arlington VA 22207
I hereby swear under penalty of perjury of the laws of The
Commonwealth of Virginia, that the forgoing statement is true.
Signed: _____________________ Tom Gorman
Witness:______________________Arnaldo Lerma
Notary_______________________________ _________________
lermanet.com Exposing the CON
errata: I believe references to peaches pook should read 'realpeach'
His girlfriend was raped by one of the "executives" at Scientology
near San Francisco - Mountainview California
The civil case was settled, the only "gag' is the amount of cash
that Scientology paid the girl to drop the criminal charges.
That's what 'woke' him up.
Tom was a 2nd generation Scientologist. He has deprogrammed
his entire family. They are now proud members of the human race.
His story is HERE
A picture of tom gorman on kirsti Wachters website
He is the blond guy handing out flyers on the left
http://www.scientology-lies.com/photos/990429/photos/990429-1600.jpg
_________________
San Francisco Police Report 030769038
Incident narrative report page 3 of 3
R-1 Gorman and R-4 Gorman Jr came to co. 1 and told me that last
night
they were celebrating gotrman jr's and his sister's birthday. Gorman
said that at about 10:30 last night, he received a call on his cell
phone. Gorman answered the call. The caller was a man with a deep
voice,
the caller asked "Tom"?
Gorman said "yes"
The man then said, "S.P.s (supressive person) don't live long!
Gorman said "What?"! Who is the SP?!
The man said: "Your son and his wife Jennifer will be dead soon"
Excerpt from San Francisco Police Report #031403528:
"On 11/26/03 at 730 hours he was traveling in his car. CA Plate
2XPJ851,
a 1991 Lexus ES250, driven by his wife J. Gorman, down Park Presidio
near
MacArthur Tunnel when the car suddeenlt became difficult toc ontrol.
They pulled over and called for assistance. The Gorman's had their
car
towed to the J&R Automotive shop for a repair. Today, the first full
working day after the Thanksgiving holiday, their mechanic, (R/w)
Vaknin,
notified them that their car was missing all six bolts connecting
the left
axel to the transmission. Vanknin said this was highly unusual
situation.....
....Vankin said the six bolts that were missing were probobly
removed purposely.
---------------------------------------
Commentary,
Scientology is protecting the perpetrator of the rape of
Gorman's new wife, which he did when she was 16..
He was considered an UPSTAT by Scientology.
coming soon to a newstand near you
_________________
lermanet.com Exposing the CON
Judge Brinkema 29 Nov 1995
"the Court is now convinced that the primary motivation of RTC
[$cientology]
in suing Lerma, DGS and The Post is to stifle criticism of Scientology
in
general and to harass its critics."
Now, does anyone want to HELP?
goto http://www.lermanet.com/tomgorman/
and start transcribing the police reports...
Post them here, and I'll web them, perhaps with a credit to you if you
desire.
_________________
lermanet.com Exposing the CON
Judge Brinkema 29 Nov 1995
"the Court is now convinced that the primary motivation of RTC
[$cientology]
in suing Lerma, DGS and The Post is to stifle criticism of Scientology
in
general and to harass its critics."
Out_Of_The_Dark
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> read more <
There are people who want critics to fail. Some of them continue to
instigate against Tommy, whose apology I read and accepted. His works
outweigh his bad reaction and I hope he continues to help take down
this cult. Some rest may be in order, as the wolves in sheep clothing
have not returned t the woods just yet.
correction: Peaches Pook is NOT realpeach. She wrote me this in a
reply once here on ARS. Peaches Pook was out of the cult but has since
gone back in, harassing scare tactics having taken their toll. At
least Tommy got out.
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/p/peaches-pook.html
http://forums.enturbulation.org/69-cos-front-groups/new-front-group-pretends-operating-charity-kenya-wear-proxy-condom-7693/2/
Mary
Eldon
<ale...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 11:52 pm, Smurf <Miscavige.Sucks.D...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am a big fan of Tommy Gorman
Well Arnie,
I am at least a minor fan of Tommy Gorman --- BUT:
He needs to practice a little anger management and work on his sense
of humor.
Make that his sense of snide BLACK humor, which is the Thunderdome
motif. Tommy and Tory just didn't get it. Both of them need to lighten
up. They took things too literally for too many years.
That's understandable, but remains a deficit that will need to be
ameliorated if they want to function efficiently outside the Truman
Show.
cultxpt
> http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5169/41292579au6.png
Anyone who threatens or commits violence at a protest should be banned
from all further protests. Period.
Gerry Armstrong
wrote:
But isn't that impossible? Maybe the word can be put out to shun such
a person, but banning sounds impossible.
And what if it's a masked person? Will all masked people be banned?
And if it's a non-masked person? And the person shows up masked? Do
all masked people get unmasked to make sure the banned person isn't
among them?
I don't get your reasoning.
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
Out_Of_The_Dark
you are of the ' we do not forgive, we do not forget and will hold it
against you' mentality, then you have to consider that it's kind of
hard for a loose group of leaderless anonymous people to set rules
like that, since they are beyond the usual ' obey the law' kind of
thing and how will it be enforced? Do you want to be the bouncer?
Will anonymous then have to have bouncers there to eject those who
lost it on one occasion or endangered the rest by their actions?
Think about that.
kennethno...@gmail.com
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:52:51 -0700 (PDT), Smurf
>
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> >http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5169/41292579au6.png
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> Tory's pet thug.
>
> http://i33.tinypic.com/qxrvb5.jpg
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> Tommy Gorman (moar liek Tommy "Gormless", amirite?)
Really? I don't see the big deal here. Some Anonymous member was
giving shit to Tory and hiding behind the Internet. Tommy got in this
person's face. So what? I think it's good that some of these people
are held accountable for their asshole comments. I know there's a few
people on this board I would love to run into at a protest.
--
Scientology Rulz!
http://www.scientologyrulz.com
realpch
<snip>
> There are people who want critics to fail. Some of them continue to
> instigate against Tommy, whose apology I read and accepted. His works
> outweigh his bad reaction and I hope he continues to help take down
> this cult. Some rest may be in order, as the wolves in sheep clothing
> have not returned t the woods just yet.
>
> correction: Peaches Pook is NOT realpeach. She wrote me this in a
> reply once here on ARS. Peaches Pook was out of the cult but has since
> gone back in, harassing scare tactics having taken their toll. At
> least Tommy got out.
> http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/p/peaches-pook.html
> http://forums.enturbulation.org/69-cos-front-groups/new-front-group-pretends-operating-charity-kenya-wear-proxy-condom-7693/2/
>
> Mary
Yeah, that's right, thanks. I've mentioned it a few times. Probably
there's still people who think I'm Peaches Pook, but what the heck. That
name always makes me think of Harvey...pooka.
Peach
--
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obscene dog
wrote:
>On Jul 26, 8:44 am, obscene dog <obscene....@xenu.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:52:51 -0700 (PDT), Smurf
>>
>> <Miscavige.Sucks.D...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5169/41292579au6.png
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>> Tory's pet thug.
>>
>> http://i33.tinypic.com/qxrvb5.jpg
>>
>> Tommy Gorman (moar liek Tommy "Gormless", amirite?)
>
>
>Really? I don't see the big deal here. Some Anonymous member was
>giving shit to Tory and hiding behind the Internet.
Bollox.
You so obviously know nothing of what happened. Go read every post in
that epic >1000 post thread on enturbulation.org
> Tommy got in this person's face. So what?
He's still an OSA thug. He used the Cult's Fair Game tactics on an
Anon. He's fuckin' prehistoric. All Anonymous should avoid him like
the plague because he's a liability.
>I think it's good that some of these people
>are held accountable for their asshole comments.
What he said to Tory was in a private forum on Enturb. Tory was warned
on many occasions, IRL and OL, that it was not a nice place and not to
go there. She told everyone that she was a big girl and could handle
anything thrown at her. She went there and got her arse handed to her
on a plate.
She didn't like it and cried like a little baby about it.
>I know there's a few people on this board I would love to run into at a protest.
Why? What would you do? Threaten them with physical violence? Tell
them "I know where you live?" Act like an uneducated Cult thug?
--
Tommy Gorman ling Tommy Gorman
http://i33.tinypic.com/qxrvb5.jpg
kennethno...@gmail.com
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:16:59 -0700 (PDT), kennethnoisewat...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Jul 26, 8:44 am, obscene dog <obscene....@xenu.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:52:51 -0700 (PDT), Smurf
>
> >> <Miscavige.Sucks.D...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5169/41292579au6.png
>
> >> Tory's pet thug.
>
> >>http://i33.tinypic.com/qxrvb5.jpg
>
> >> Tommy Gorman (moar liek Tommy "Gormless", amirite?)
>
> >Really? I don't see the big deal here. Some Anonymous member was
> >giving shit to Tory and hiding behind the Internet.
>
> Bollox.
>
> You so obviously know nothing of what happened. Go read every post in
> that epic >1000 post thread on enturbulation.org
Sum it up for me then please. I think my summary is pretty accurate,
but if it's not, please correct me. I tried reading that thread....
it's way too much. Though, I do see that Tommy hasn't posted on it
even after 1000+ replies.
obscene dog
wrote:
>On Jul 24, 8:52 pm, Smurf <Miscavige.Sucks.D...@gmail.com> wrote:
You can't ban Tommy Gorman Tommy Gorman from protests.
He knows where you live.
He is also a bat shit crazy fucker.
Just avoid him, he's a liability.
--
Tommy Gorman ling Tommy Gorman
http://i33.tinypic.com/qxrvb5.jpg
He scrounges money on the Interwebs and doesn't afraid of anything.
t_shuffle
<kennethno...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ea67c53b-ab2a-4655...@z26g2000pre.googlegroups.com
> snip
> Really? I don't see the big deal here. Some Anonymous
> member was giving shit to Tory and hiding behind the
> Internet. Tommy got in this person's face. So what? I
> think it's good that some of these people are held
> accountable for their asshole comments. I know there's a
> few people on this board I would love to run into at a
> protest.
O RLY?
obscene dog
wrote:
>On Jul 26, 3:10 pm, obscene dog <obscene....@xenu.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:16:59 -0700 (PDT), kennethnoisewat...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Jul 26, 8:44 am, obscene dog <obscene....@xenu.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:52:51 -0700 (PDT), Smurf
>>
>> >> <Miscavige.Sucks.D...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5169/41292579au6.png
>>
>> >> Tory's pet thug.
>>
>> >>http://i33.tinypic.com/qxrvb5.jpg
>>
>> >> Tommy Gorman (moar liek Tommy "Gormless", amirite?)
>>
>> >Really? I don't see the big deal here. Some Anonymous member was
>> >giving shit to Tory and hiding behind the Internet.
>>
>> Bollox.
>>
>> You so obviously know nothing of what happened. Go read every post in
>> that epic >1000 post thread on enturbulation.org
>
>
>Sum it up for me then please.
Certainly.
Tory wanted to venture into the Thunderdome.
She was told not to go there because it's nasty. No, really. Don't
fucken go there, Tory.
She insisted on visiting the TD.
When she appeared in TD, posters were actually nice to her. This is
unheard of but some believe it was because of her "OG celebrity"
status. They actually warned her that TD was not the place to be and
she said she was perfectly capable of handling anything that TD could
throw at her.
She wasn't. She then complained to anyone who would listen that TD
went too far and hurt her feelings.
She even accused TD of being OSA or that OSA was feeding them
information.
She then allegedly receives a threatening 'phone call but instead of
calling the authorities, she bawwws some more and Tommy Gorman ling
Tommy Gorman gets involved.
They come to the only logical conclusion that the person who
"disrespected" Tory in TD must be the same person who made the 'phone
call.
Tommy Gorman then threatens this person with physical violence and
tells him "I know where you live".
If anyone wants to correct that version of events, please feel free to
post.
> I think my summary is pretty accurate,
>but if it's not, please correct me.
See above :-)
> I tried reading that thread.... it's way too much.
I read it in between digging my garden up and lugging railway sleepers
around. Took me hours.
>Though, I do see that Tommy hasn't posted on it
>even after 1000+ replies.
Someone said that they phoned him up and he "doesn't like text".
That'll probably be his scientology education.
He did, however, create a thread called "Tommy Gorman Responds"
http://forums.enturbulation.org/7-general-discussion/tommy-gorman-responds-23170/
Check out Tommy Gorman ling Tommy Gorman's literary skills. They are
as good as his social skills.
Leet Neanderthal is leet.
--
Tommy Gorman ling Tommy Gorman
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Black Mamba
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| "Out_Of_The_Dark" <xscilen...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| > read more <
| > There are people who want critics to fail. Some of >them continue to
| > instigate against Tommy, whose apology I read and >accepted.
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| hasn't.
|
| C
| www.claireswazey.com
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Claire:
Only an intoxicated moose with irritable bowel syndrome would consider
an apology to you and that would be kind of hard to do, seeing as how there
is no such thing as "Moose TR's".
Tommy Gorman is a real nice guy. Isn't he the one that went over to
Kristi Wachter's house and handed out flyers and whispered to Kristi that
she has sex with animals? Well isn't he just swell!? I guess anybody would
be glad to have a former OSA stooge like that on their side, heh?
And, another thing, I don't ever accept apologies from people. I am not
even saying that you owe me one Claire, of course you do not, I am just
saying, as a matter of personal feeling. If anyone has to do things to me
that they then later need to apologize for then they don't need me. Period!
--
Larry
{LaserClam Is Like A Pit Viper!}
Black Mamba
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| > "Ball of Fluff" <Waitandsee> wrote in message
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| > | "Out_Of_The_Dark" <xscilen...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| > | >
| > | > read more <
| > | > There are people who want critics to fail. Some of >them continue to
| > | > instigate against Tommy, whose apology I read and >accepted.
| > |
| > | Well, if he ever apologizes to me, I can consider accepting it. But he
| > | hasn't.
| > |
| > | C
| > | www.claireswazey.com
| > |
| > |
| >
| > Claire:
| >
| > Only an intoxicated moose with irritable bowel syndrome would
consider
| > an apology to you and that would be kind of hard to do, seeing as how
| > there
| > is no such thing as "Moose TR's".
|
| think an apology is in order, that gets us into moose country?
|
| >
| > Tommy Gorman is a real nice guy.
|
| Braun and loved dogs, so really, not impressed here.
|
|
| > Isn't he the one that went over to
| > Kristi Wachter's house and handed out flyers and whispered to Kristi
that
| > she has sex with animals? Well isn't he just swell!? I guess anybody
would
| > be glad to have a former OSA stooge like that on their side, heh?
|
| get out.
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| >
| > And, another thing, I don't ever accept apologies from people.
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| responsibility for things they've said and done even if it's just to the
| extent of issuing a sort of unspoken but meaningful gesture that would be
a
| tacit apology.
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| >I am not
| > even saying that you owe me one Claire, of course you do not,
|
Of
| course you know I don't put up with that shit.
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| C
| www.claireswazey.com
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Claire (and John if he is listening in):
Well, your chivalry these days rivals even that of Ann Boleyn (who was
at one time a very dear and close friend of mine, until she lost her head!)
Claire, you are too tolerant of others for your *OWN DAMN GOOD!*
My policy is, if someone offers to make AMENDS, real ones, for the
damage they have caused, it might work, but to just apologize is
meaningless. Ask any expert auditor. You are just setting yourself up for a
long future of long overdue apologies by being like that.
I think Tommy Gorman is a *like you say* person that acts that way in or
out of the church. Amends work. Apologies don't. And, if a person is making
amends to you, there is the possiblity they may have done something to you
for which they can also be arrested. So when being an *ethics officer* at
heart, like in business, think with your head and not always your heart.
And, now Claire, back to the saga of *my life*.
Monica Pignotti
Not to condone the threats of violence on Tommy's part, but their
offense at the Thunderdome website is understandable and has nothing
whatsoever to do with being in a Scientology website. I would venture
to guess that most socially-aware people would be offended by this
type of language, whether intended as a joke or not. This extreme form
of misogyny is not not a joking matter, as far as any decent socially
conscious person is concerned. I hope this will be a wake-up call for
Tory and she will have the good sense to say good riddance, just as
she did to Scientology. If Anon wants to shun her, its their loss not
hers.
henri
I have an idea. If you don't LIKE shit like Thunderdome,
DON'T READ IT. DON'T PARTICIPATE IN IT. STAY THE FUCK OFF IT!
Yeah, I know, what a concept!
Tory not only went onto Thunderdome, knowing what it was, she taunted
the people there basically to hit her with their best shot. They were
going EASY on her and she flipped out and started accusing people of
either being OSA or manipulated by OSA and her usual horseshit OSA OSA
Bill Yaude OSA rampage that she does any time someone calls her on her
bullshit.
The inevitable occurred. She may be able to rally the moron posse
here and on OCMB by using Scientology style OSA chanting, but it
doesn't work there.
MPB and the rest were in the Thunderdome, where they had EVERY RIGHT
TO BE, doing what the group WAS CREATED FOR.
Magoo was an interloper who should never have been there, was warned
by multiple people to avoid that place, that she would not like it,
and insisted on going in.
Then, instead of adhering to the mores of the group where she was a
guest, she chose to try to force them to adhere to hers. The
inevitable occurred. Anyone who knew a damn thing knew exactly what
would happen, and told her exactly what would happen.
Frankly, she's an idiot. The only good thing about all this is (I
hope) it has cured Anon of hero worship of idiots of the so-called
"Old Guard."
kennethno...@gmail.com
> http://forums.enturbulation.org/7-general-discussion/tommy-gorman-res...
>
> Check out Tommy Gorman ling Tommy Gorman's literary skills. They are
> as good as his social skills.
>
> Leet Neanderthal is leet.
>
> --
>
> Tommy Gorman ling Tommy Gormanhttp://i33.tinypic.com/qxrvb5.jpg
> He scrounges money on the Interwebs and doesn't afraid of anything.
Hey, thanks for summing this up. I don't mean to come off as
defending him, but geesh, the guy was in Scientology almost all of his
life, and as I read doesn't have a high school education. He was a
thug then and it's going to be pretty hard to change that, but over
time, anybody can change I believe.
Also, I thought the Anon he got in the face of WAS the Anon giving
Tory shit. So, it wasn't? If this whole thing was just an educated
guess then that's unacceptable.
Tom Newton
<6930a267-bd50-4c32...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com
> On Jul 24, 11:52 pm, Smurf <Miscavige.Sucks.D...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I am a big fan of Tommy Gorman
>
> "...Secrecy is the keystone of all tyranny.
And what do ww have here? 'Anonymous' is based upon secrecy.
Anonymity is the very pinnacle of secrecy.
The anonymous person can do anything without being held
responsible for his/her actions because no one can identify
him/her.
Tom
--
Real science: http://www.sethcenter.com/pages/bookstore.htm
If I read your article, I replied to it.
If I didn't reply to it, I didn't read it.
My newsfilter kills about 1/2 the posts to ARS.
Out_Of_The_Dark
> "Ball of Fluff" <Waitandsee> wrote in messagenews:488b...@news2.lightlink.com...
Where did fluffy's post come from and go to? FYI: Your reply seems to
be to mine but in fact it is to hers. She may not have seen it because
of this.
Black Mamba
*Where did fluffy's post come from and go to? FYI: Your *reply seems to
*be to mine but in fact it is to hers. She may not have *seen it because
*of this.
Excuse me for being up so late, I was just about to retire. I should get
paid for this I would earn a fortune! (LOL)
It was a kind of blanket response, because nothing in this world turns
me off more, than hearing an apology from someone, as deeds speak way louder
than words.
No offense. It just crossed my mind that people should not be "arguing"
in a sense about who should be apologizing to whom and why, especially
Claire. Claire all the times promotes herself as the "Learned Netiquette"
type person but yet she openly discusses from whom she is owed an apology an
a generally public "discussion forum" as she would call it about Scientology
and not who owes who apologies. See my point?
Smurf
>
>
> >http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5169/41292579au6.png
>
> Tory's pet thug.
>
> http://i33.tinypic.com/qxrvb5.jpg
>
> Tommy Gorman (moar liek Tommy "Gormless", amirite?)
Hey, I resent you publishing a photo of my ex-wife..bastard!
Smurf
Who the hell are you to call for anyone's constitutional right to
protest? If you don't want someone in your little group, ask them to
leave. Period.
Out_Of_The_Dark
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh, I got your point and fully understand. You described her to a T on
that point, lol! I just did not see the post of Fluffy's that you
were replying to in this thread.
Thanks for explaining.
Eldon
> On Jul 26, 2:39 pm, Eldon <EldonB...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 26, 5:47 pm, "Lermanet.com Exposing the CON for over 10 years!"
>
> > <ale...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > On Jul 24, 11:52 pm, Smurf <Miscavige.Sucks.D...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I am a big fan of Tommy Gorman
>
> > Well Arnie,
>
> > I am at least a minor fan of Tommy Gorman --- BUT:
>
> > He needs to practice a little anger management and work on his sense
> > of humor.
>
> > Make that his sense of snide BLACK humor, which is the Thunderdome
> > motif. Tommy and Tory just didn't get it. Both of them need to lighten
> > up. They took things too literally for too many years.
>
> > That's understandable, but remains a deficit that will need to be
> > ameliorated if they want to function efficiently outside the Truman
> > Show.
>
> Not to condone the threats of violence on Tommy's part, but their
> offense at the Thunderdome website is understandable and has nothing
> whatsoever to do with being in a Scientology website.
What? The Thunderdome is is not a website, but a particularly
obnoxious free-for-all subsection of the multi-topic discussion board
at the Enturbulation.org website. You have a big hierarchical MU
here.
This amply demonstrates how much you know about the Internet, which
isn't very much. Please try to learn more.
> I would venture
> to guess that most socially-aware people would be offended by this
> type of language, whether intended as a joke or not. This extreme form
> of misogyny is not not a joking matter, as far as any decent socially
> conscious person is concerned.
A socially-aware person of what age? Aware within what social context?
Your rigidity is showing, Monica.
> I hope this will be a wake-up call for
> Tory and she will have the good sense to say good riddance, just as
> she did to Scientology.
I for one hope Tory has the good sense to smooth the feathers she
ruffled, and that Tommy G. gets some anger management counseling. He
can easily learn to take a deep breath or three, and tone down his
obnoxious fucking mouth. Just takes a little practice in self-
restraint.
> If Anon wants to shun her, its their loss not
> hers.
It's everyone's loss.
barb
I know there are a lot of people on this board who would love to run
into YOU at a protest...good thing for you you don't go to any.
--
Barb "That's Captain Barbossa to you!"
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
It's Poodlin' Time!
“I think that the protections that we enjoy for freedom of worship exist
so long as we don’t step over the line. When religious worship and
belief cross over into things like fraud, victimization of others and
the disruption of the political arena, that protection is no longer
appropriate.”
--Robert Goff
Professor Emeritus, UCSC
obscene dog
wrote:
>Also, I thought the Anon he got in the face of WAS the Anon giving
>Tory shit. So, it wasn't? If this whole thing was just an educated
>guess then that's unacceptable.
He was the one from the TD but he never made the alleged phone call.
Ball of Fluff
I am unaware that discussion of that is verboten. And I've never ever said I
don't do flame wars or that I won't speak up for themselves. I believe it's
not good for someone to attack others - that this is a breach of netiquette-
but once they do, then I'll feel free to speak up about it. And I'll keep
doing that til the person does the right thing.
>
> --
> Larry
> {LaserClam Is Like A Pit Viper!}- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
> Oh, I got your point and fully understand. You described her to a T on
> that point, lol! I just did not see the post of Fluffy's that you
> were replying to in this thread.
> Thanks for explaining.
Well, Mary, you write about people's behavior, also. A number of us do.
I've never said I wouldn't do that or that no one should ever do that. I'm
really not a person who puts up with being on the receiving end of predatory
behavior.
So, yeah, Tommy Gorman owes a number of people apologies and not just for
this latest bit of thuggery. I'm free to speak up on such things, same as
you.
C
Fredric L. Rice
Amen to that! But I would add that not only at protests. Anyone
who advocates violence against Scientology individuals or business
offices should be ostracized as well.
This is a first for a.r.s. We've never had anyone among our ranks
even come close to being a problem.
---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5W8ALB0SNU
Insane woman verbally assaults 2 little girls
Fredric L. Rice
>On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:54:23 -0700 (PDT), cultxpt <cul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Jul 24, 8:52 pm, Smurf <Miscavige.Sucks.D...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5169/41292579au6.png
>>Anyone who threatens or commits violence at a protest should be banned
>>from all further protests. Period.
>But isn't that impossible? Maybe the word can be put out to shun such
>a person, but banning sounds impossible.
The way it's usually done is simply ostracizing the person and, if
needed, pointing the individual out to cops so that they can keep an
eye on the individual. That's the way it's done in other activist
groups where the disruptive or violent person won't stay away on
his or her own.
Fredric L. Rice
>On Jul 26, 8:44 am, obscene dog <obscene....@xenu.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:52:51 -0700 (PDT), Smurf
>> <Miscavige.Sucks.D...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5169/41292579au6.png
>> Tory's pet thug.
>> http://i33.tinypic.com/qxrvb5.jpg
>> Tommy Gorman (moar liek Tommy "Gormless", amirite?)
>Really? I don't see the big deal here.
If true, that makes you a problem as well.
Black Mamba
> Claire. Claire all the times promotes herself as a "Learned Netiquette"
> type person but yet she openly discusses from whom she is owed an apology
> a generally public "discussion forum" as she would call it about
> Scientology
>
> --
> Larry
> {LaserClam Is Like A Pit Viper!}- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
*Oh, I got your point and fully understand. You *described her to a T on
*that point, lol! I just did not see the post of Fluffy's that *you
*were replying to in this thread.
*Thanks for explaining.
OK, because you are generally pretty smart gal when it comes to talking
about things.
barb
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henri
wrote:
>kennethno...@gmail.com wrote:
[Internet Tough Guy rant from a self-confessed neurasthenic wimp with
panic attacks snipped.]
>I know there are a lot of people on this board who would love to run
>into YOU at a protest...good thing for you you don't go to any.
Pwnt.
henri
>> >http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5169/41292579au6.png
Not period at all. Get a restraining order against the fuck if
necessary. If it goes beyond that, have the dumb shit chucked in jail
where he belongs.
Black Mamba
"Ball of Fluff" <getof...@fluffentology.com> wrote in message
news:488c9b61$1...@news2.lightlink.com...
Claire:
Understood.
Not just this moment, but in the near future, me and my friend are working
on a new funny joke about Scientology, that is going to make all the people
who read A.R.S. that read it, crack up laughing hysterically.
OK?
barb
Anonymous is a far cry from the teaparty that is OCMB.
I reckon she's figured that out by now. I don't frequent that message
board. Too much rainbows and fuzzy teddybears for my taste. Sunshine,
lollipops (not lolipops) and huggy wugs for this warrior.