Has Anybody Seen A BodyThetan
Larry T.
and I saw about 100 posts in a row from "bodythetan".
Is this anybody? or a joke or something?
--
Larry T.
http://mysite.verizon.net/resqjfym/larry/
"Oh, Chubsy-Ubsy, there's something heavy on my heart."
...From "Love Business" starring The Little Rascals
Barbara Schwarz
Did it ever dawn on you that germs are body thetans, Larry? Germs are
exploded thetans, thetans dissolved in many little parts and then
implanted into germ bodies by psychs. They attach themselves to our
bodies and make us sick and kill us (as they are also remote controlled
and activiated through the body implants of people.)
This is the psychiatric world. Enjoy. Don't blame SCN.
Barbara Schwarz
SirLagsALot
"Barbara Schwarz" <Stilllov...@myway.com> wrote
> Did it ever dawn on you that germs are body thetans, Larry? Germs are
> exploded thetans, thetans dissolved in many little parts and then
> implanted into germ bodies by psychs. They attach themselves to our
> bodies and make us sick and kill us (as they are also remote controlled
> and activiated through the body implants of people.)
>
> This is the psychiatric world. Enjoy. Don't blame SCN.
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
LMFAO
lets see if I understand correctly...it's your assertation that:
germs are little aliens implanted into germ bodies? then remote controloed
by psychologists and sent out into the world to destroy people?
If this is the grasp on reality that scientology has given you....then I
suggest you ask for a refund
Barbara, take a long hard look at your association with the scientologists
around you...
they tolerate you, they dont accept you as one of their own.
when they are face to face with you, I am sure they tell you what a good job
you are doing for the "cause"
but as soon as you leave the room...they are laughing at you
if you truly believe that germs are remote controlled thetans then I suggest
you go by a cheap microscope, spit on a slide, then look at the slide under
the microscope
OMG YOUR INFECTED WITH THETANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Larry T.
"Barbara Schwarz" <Stilllov...@myway.com> wrote in message
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It never occurred to me to blame "Scientology" for anything.
Scientology is a physical universe item, written words, knowledge.
It cannot be made accountable for itself.
Barbara Schwarz
SirLagsALot wrote:
> "Barbara Schwarz" <Stilllov...@myway.com> wrote
> > Did it ever dawn on you that germs are body thetans, Larry? Germs are
> > exploded thetans, thetans dissolved in many little parts and then
> > implanted into germ bodies by psychs. They attach themselves to our
> > bodies and make us sick and kill us (as they are also remote controlled
> > and activiated through the body implants of people.)
> >
> > This is the psychiatric world. Enjoy. Don't blame SCN.
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
> >
>
> LMFAO
> lets see if I understand correctly...it's your assertation that:
> germs are little aliens implanted into germ bodies?
No, no aliens. When a person dies, only the body dies. The personality
(thetan, soul) remains. With infrared camera you can see a little milky
white cloud emerging from the dying body.
Such a bodyless thetan is attracted by psychiatrists, e.g. some with
pictures of the people they love, some with music, some like Dave
Touretzky or perhaps you with porn. Once you are they, they implant you
in a blender or explode you and indoctrinate you of letting go of your
own parts. You, the thetan, the soul fall to pieces. Then the docs
channel you in germ bodies, your former pieces are now in germs. In
other words, you are nothing but a batch of germs and do not longer
exist as a thetan that can pick up a human body.
I snipped you other insulting and unintelligent crap. Learn to think. I
am sure you have no clue where germs come from. Don't tell me that they
just grow. That just goes for the physical part, but the germ is a
little animal and that is a piece of a former big thetan.
There you have some body thetans when they attack themselves to your
body. Do some mending, go OT.
Barbara Schwarz
Kim Palmer
NO one has seen a body thetan because they do not exist except in the
belief system of scientologists = just like past lives, souls etc etc
only exist as part of belief systems. There is no scientific proof of
any of it - believe what you want but do not claim proof of anything -
that is just insulting people's native intelligence
Kim P
mpatt...@gmail.com
give Scn the finger it so richly deserves I have trained it to stick
its tongie out.
;)
mpatt...@gmail.com
think at you quite strongly instead of speaking.
Can't they??
;)
bthomas
like, goo. One day I will be clear of all of my body thetans but I guess
aliens probably visit me at night and re-implant me because I have more the
next day. Pesky little aliens and their implants!
<mpatt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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TinyA...@gmail.com
like.
I've rendered my representation in plastic resin here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bunnyskull/31345957/
Anybody want a space baby cootie to hang in the window email me.
Better to know what the enemy looks like so when they file out of you,
you can keep track.
SirLagsALot
CREATED germs and they didnt exist before psychiatry
the fact is you have no clue what germs are....or that your body contains
billions of germs at this very moment.
scientology is a crackpot philosophy invented by a second rate science
fiction writer aspiring to be a wealthy person.
the only miracle about scientology is that it has lasted as long as it
has...mainly due to weakminded, easily influenced people like yourself.
do you have any kind of formal education?
what is your rating in scientology?
have they let you read hubbards thoughts about xenu yet?
you are just a mindless drone for the scientology cult
pull your head out of your ass...you'll be able to see the world better
there is no spoon
cultxpt
Photo of a BT leaving a body
pitdog
> I was in New York all day and I came home just to see if Magoo was around
> and I saw about 100 posts in a row from "bodythetan".
>
> Is this anybody? or a joke or something?
>
i have a pizza thetan, it urges me to order a pizza. i have a beer
thetan and so on. sometimes i try to fight them pizza thetans, and
sometimes i win.
Larry T.
news:dd1452$qir$1...@news.task.gda.pl...
Well you have really lost here altogether. Cheese (dairy) pizza is NOT an
integral part of Vegan living, vegan diet is my preferred diet and in my
memory my last beer was about 18 years ago.
--
Larry T.
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeoqz2m/scientology/
"Oh, Chubsy-Ubsy, there's something heavy on my heart."
...from "Love Business" starring The Little Rascals
Barbara Schwarz
You are an uneducated fool and a psych troll, Kim. Just because YOU
don't know about it, doesn't mean that others found the proof.
Barbara Schwarz
wensite that I recommend:
www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
www.cchr.org
Barbara Schwarz
You are an uneducated fool and a psych troll, Kim. Just because YOU
don't know about it, doesn't mean that others didn't found the proof.
SirLagsALot
you had it right the first time..nobody has ever found proof
pitdog
> "pitdog" <pios...@wp.pl> wrote in message
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>
>>Larry T. wrote:
>>
>>>I was in New York all day and I came home just to see if Magoo was around
>>>and I saw about 100 posts in a row from "bodythetan".
>>>
>>>Is this anybody? or a joke or something?
>>>
>>
>>ive never seen one, but sometimes i can hear or feel one of 'em body
>>thetant
>>i have a pizza thetan, it urges me to order a pizza. i have a beer thetan
>>and so on. sometimes i try to fight them pizza thetans, and sometimes i
>>win.
>
>
>
> Well you have really lost here altogether. Cheese (dairy) pizza is NOT an
> integral part of Vegan living, vegan diet is my preferred diet and in my
> memory my last beer was about 18 years ago.
>
Larry T.
Everybody has to eat and drink something kiddo otherwise
they cannot tinkle or do poops..
Barbara Schwarz
Simkatu wrote:
> Barbara Schwarz wrote:
>
> > Just because YOU
> > don't know about it, doesn't mean that others found the proof.
>
It is self-explanatory.
>
> Does your logic equally explain the existence of invisible pink unicorns
> from Venus riding invisible rollercoasters in your bedroom?
Those don't exist. But spiritual beings exists. Do you think you are
none? Just a bunch of meat? What do you think the personality is? The
spiritual being? Did you ever think about that?
Barbara Schwarz
Websites I recommend:
www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
www.cchr.com
Barbara Schwarz
Yes, there is something like ancient germs. But who says there were not
other civilizations before this one who had their psychiatrists who
made the first experiments with the human spirits, e.g. destroying them
and implanting it in germ bodies?
You have a little nasty mind. You can't think big. I don't expect you
to get it. That is why I make it short.
Barbara Schwarz
pitdog
> "pitdog" <pios...@wp.pl> wrote in message
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>
>>Larry T. wrote:
>>
>>>"pitdog" <pios...@wp.pl> wrote in message
>>>news:dd1452$qir$1...@news.task.gda.pl...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Larry T. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I was in New York all day and I came home just to see if Magoo was
>>>>>around and I saw about 100 posts in a row from "bodythetan".
>>>>>
>>>>>Is this anybody? or a joke or something?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>ive never seen one, but sometimes i can hear or feel one of 'em body
>>>>thetant
>>>>i have a pizza thetan, it urges me to order a pizza. i have a beer thetan
>>>>and so on. sometimes i try to fight them pizza thetans, and sometimes i
>>>>win.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Well you have really lost here altogether. Cheese (dairy) pizza is NOT an
>>>integral part of Vegan living, vegan diet is my preferred diet and in my
>>>memory my last beer was about 18 years ago.
>>>
>>
>>well, i dont envy you regarding your vegan diet and lack of beer :)
>
>
>
> Everybody has to eat and drink something kiddo otherwise
> they cannot tinkle or do poops..
how very enlightening my little pal, now scuttle and play with sth lol
bthomas
Are they "spiritual beings"?
"Barbara Schwarz" <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Barbara Schwarz
Simkatu wrote:
> "Barbara Schwarz" <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1123445589.9...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > from Venus riding invisible rollercoasters in your bedroom?
> >
> > Those don't exist. But spiritual beings exists.
>
Don't you know that? Can't you feel yourself, David? Researchers in
universities are no independent thinkers, that is why they don't do the
scientific studies, but other people do it.
For once, people can remember past lives. If they would not be
spiritual beings, if they would not have lived with another body
before, they hardly would be able to remember these lives.
Moreover, when somebody dies, you can see with special cameras that a
cloud emerges from the body. That is the person, the spiritual being.
Google
Barbara Schwarz+orbs and Barbara Schwarz+thetan, and you will see what
I mean.
>
> > Do you think you are
> > none? Just a bunch of meat? What do you think the personality is? The
> > spiritual being? Did you ever think about that?
If you don't answer my questions, I don't see why I should answer any
of yours in future.
>
> Do plants have a spiritual being as well?
>
> How about a tomato?
>
> You ever met a tomato with "personality" Barbara?
I met you. You have quite a mushy tomato personality.
Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz
bthomas wrote:
> Dogs (and other animals) have distinct personalities. Do they have a soul?
> Are they "spiritual beings"?
Of course.
Barbara Schwarz
Kim Palmer
> Simkatu wrote:
>
>>"Barbara Schwarz" <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1123445589.9...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>>>Does your logic equally explain the existence of invisible pink unicorns
>>>>from Venus riding invisible rollercoasters in your bedroom?
>>>
>>>Those don't exist. But spiritual beings exists.
>>
>>How do you know spiritual beings exist?
>
>
> Don't you know that? Can't you feel yourself, David? Researchers in
> universities are no independent thinkers, that is why they don't do the
> scientific studies, but other people do it.
>
yeah right - thought controllers and remote controlled germs - honestly
you sound loonier every single day - there is NO such thing as ear
implants and thought controllers and case officers in spite of all
your screeching to the contrary - there is a life outside the tiny
little box that is the universe of the long dead and drugged out hubbard.
> For once, people can remember past lives. If they would not be
> spiritual beings, if they would not have lived with another body
> before, they hardly would be able to remember these lives.
>
there is no evidence to substantiate the existance of past lives there
are ony belief systems that support such a belief.
> Moreover, when somebody dies, you can see with special cameras that a
> cloud emerges from the body. That is the person, the spiritual being.
Yeah sure - I watched my mother, my mother-in-law, and my father die
and there was nothing - they breathed and then they stopped - dead is
dead and there is nothing thereafter - no proof of anything after death
except decay and a return to the earth. I plan on being cremated and my
ashes strewn on the prairies wiht no head stone or marker needed or wanted.
Spiritual beings may or may not exist and no one can PROVE that they
exist - nor can anyone absolutely prove they lived before - they can
assert it all they want there is no proof. Believe it if you want but
do not demand that all MUST believe it just because some dead conman
said so.
Kim P
Barbara Schwarz
Kim Palmer wrote:
> Barbara Schwarz wrote:
>
> > Simkatu wrote:
> >
> >>"Barbara Schwarz" <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:1123445589.9...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Does your logic equally explain the existence of invisible pink unicorns
> >>>>from Venus riding invisible rollercoasters in your bedroom?
> >>>
> >>>Those don't exist. But spiritual beings exists.
> >>
> >>How do you know spiritual beings exist?
> >
> >
> > Don't you know that? Can't you feel yourself, David? Researchers in
> > universities are no independent thinkers, that is why they don't do the
> > scientific studies, but other people do it.
> >
> yeah right -
You are an uneducated and lying idiot, Kim Palmer. Your problem is that
nothing what you can't imagine is defamed by you. You are one of the
many in the box thinker of Usenet. You are a waste of time.
Barbara Schwarz
Interesting websites:
www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
www.cchr.com
Barbara Schwarz
eye) you can see a small milky white cloud leaving the dying body. That
is the person, the thetan, the soul.
That universities did never tried to film that shows that they are
controlled from a conspiracy that does not want others to know and
their researchers no independent thinkers.
Implanting kids when they start school with an middle ear implant and
running them and telling them how they can cheat through exams makes
people dependent from the system. That is why the biggest "secrets" are
not solved yet. The scientists are puppets.
Zinj
> Dogs (and other animals) have distinct personalities. Do they have a soul?
> Are they "spiritual beings"?
Q: Does a dog have the Bhudda Consciousness?
A: Bow Wow
Zinj
SirLagsALot
this is what a thetan looks like:
http://www.entheta.ru/humor/thetan.jpg
SirLagsALot
guess what....with an infrared camera you can see that milky white cloud
leaving a living body all day long.
it's called body heat....exactly what an infrared camera is designed to
detect.
take a pot of hot water, point an infrared camera at it, you will see the
same thing
water-thetans?
Fear Not
"I keep one BT in the nail of my right hand middle finger, and when I
give Scn the finger it so richly deserves I have trained it to stick
its tongie out."
Sitting at my computer, laughing hysterically.
Thank you mpattin...@gmail.com
The Chief Instigator
>SirLagsALot wrote:
>> "Barbara Schwarz" <Stilllov...@myway.com> wrote
>> > Did it ever dawn on you that germs are body thetans, Larry? Germs are
>> > exploded thetans, thetans dissolved in many little parts and then
>> > implanted into germ bodies by psychs. They attach themselves to our
>> > bodies and make us sick and kill us (as they are also remote controlled
>> > and activiated through the body implants of people.)
>> > This is the psychiatric world. Enjoy. Don't blame SCN.
>> LMFAO
>> lets see if I understand correctly...it's your assertation that:
>> germs are little aliens implanted into germ bodies?
>No, no aliens. When a person dies, only the body dies. The personality
>(thetan, soul) remains. With infrared camera you can see a little milky
>white cloud emerging from the dying body.
Riiiiight....that explains why no controlled study has ever indicated such a
phenomenon.
Hubbard died as a lunatic druggie. Choke on that fact, Babbles.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
The Chief Instigator
>I am saying it again, with special infra red cameras (not with the bare
>eye) you can see a small milky white cloud leaving the dying body. That
>is the person, the thetan, the soul.
>That universities did never tried to film that shows that they are
>controlled from a conspiracy that does not want others to know and
>their researchers no independent thinkers.
Researchers *have* tried to detect such emissions from the dying, and have
never found any "small milky white cloud" (in either visible light, IR, or UV)
at death. Hubbard lied about many things, so it's reasonable to suspect
if he ever claimed this, there's a significant probability he was lying about
it as well.
>Implanting kids when they start school with an middle ear implant and
>running them and telling them how they can cheat through exams makes
>people dependent from the system. That is why the biggest "secrets" are
>not solved yet. The scientists are puppets.
It's just a coincidence that you're the only loon proclaiming that, but no
one's ever found one that was implanted by an MD for medical reasons - or in
the numbers you're hallucinating about, Babbles.
SirLagsALot
"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
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http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/hearing/coch.asp
a cochlear implant restores partial hearing to deaf people
and they are expensive as hell...Im wondering who would fund such a massive
implantation conspiracy
twisted minds see normal everyday experiences as being conspiracies against
them directly when the truth is they just arent that important
ramona
>
> http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/hearing/coch.asp
>
> a cochlear implant restores partial hearing to deaf people
>
> and they are expensive as hell...Im wondering who would fund such a massive
> implantation conspiracy
SLAL,
You realize she isn't talking about THAT kind of implant? The cochlear
implant is a real device that reinterpretes sound for the deaf. She's
talking about a "middle ear implant" that allows "psychs" to control
your thoughts and actions. "Psychs" apparently are playing/controlling
us as if we are Mario and/or Luigi of the video game.
For a time, B.S. did not have a memory of her dearly beloved "Marty
Rathbun." Then one day she "recovered" her memory of him as a spouse.
>
> twisted minds see normal everyday experiences as being conspiracies against
> them directly when the truth is they just arent that important
And sometimes they are just simply twisted and damaged and conspiracy
theories are their reality. Yet other times people become damaged when
they do bad things for CO$ to the point of Psychic break never to
recover again. It is at this point that CO$ disregards them as old
garbage.
Ramona
Friends are God's way of making up for family.
Ben Dover
>You have a little nasty mind. You can't think big. I don't expect you
>to get it. That is why I make it short.
Talking about your very small & clueless brain again, Scizo?
Ben Dover
>leaving a living body all day long.
>it's called body heat....exactly what an infrared camera is designed to
>detect.
Take an infrared camera and point at Schwarz' mouth...
The toxic breath should show up as a bright green.
Ben Dover
>nothing what you can't imagine is defamed by you. You are one of the
>many in the box thinker of Usenet. You are a waste of time.
LOL. The potty-mouthed schizo forgot to take her pills again.
The Chief Instigator
>"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
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>> "Barbara Schwarz" <Stilllov...@myway.com> writes:
>> >I am saying it again, with special infra red cameras (not with the bare
>> >eye) you can see a small milky white cloud leaving the dying body. That
>> >is the person, the thetan, the soul.
>> >That universities did never tried to film that shows that they are
>> >controlled from a conspiracy that does not want others to know and
>> >their researchers no independent thinkers.
>> Researchers *have* tried to detect such emissions from the dying, and have
>> never found any "small milky white cloud" (in either visible light, IR, or
>> UV) at death. Hubbard lied about many things, so it's reasonable to
>> suspect if he ever claimed this, there's a significant probability he was
>> lying about it as well.
>> >Implanting kids when they start school with an middle ear implant and
>> >running them and telling them how they can cheat through exams makes
>> >people dependent from the system. That is why the biggest "secrets" are
>> >not solved yet. The scientists are puppets.
>> It's just a coincidence that you're the only loon proclaiming that, but no
>> one's ever found one that was implanted by an MD for medical reasons - or in
>> the numbers you're hallucinating about, Babbles.
>http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/hearing/coch.asp
>a cochlear implant restores partial hearing to deaf people
Yep...seen a mention or two of it.
>and they are expensive as hell...Im wondering who would fund such a massive
>implantation conspiracy
It has to be those SPs that infest Usenet. Just ask Babbles. ;-)
>twisted minds see normal everyday experiences as being conspiracies against
>them directly when the truth is they just arent that important
You know that, I know that, but we're normal. TrueScientologists® like
Babbles have yet to grasp that sliver of reality.
Barbara Schwarz
And the body heat can travel so fast that it leaves a trail behind it?
I don't think so.
>
> take a pot of hot water, point an infrared camera at it, you will see the
> same thing
>
> water-thetans?
First of all, I believe that EVP (electronic voice phenomen) and those
ghost pictures of people appearing before the eyes and cameras of
ghost hunters are SEGNPMSS produced with modern technology. They do
that to keep the ghost hunters busy. But what's for real is certainly
that a thetan consist of a tiny bit of matter, as discovered by L. Ron
Hubbard, and that is why the thetans can be seen with infrared
cameras.
A thetan is the person, without body or whitin a body, and many ghost
hunters basically call a thetan "orb".
"Orbs" are moving transparent balls of lights, and when you are
"dead", when you left that body that you have now, and when you are
not picking up a new body, you will look and behave just like them.
This is what the Utah ghost hunters wrote about the orbs:
ORBS ARE ENERGY ANOMALIES RECORDED AT SOME HAUNTED SITES. ORBS ARE NOT
VISABLE TO THE NAKED EYE BUT CAN BE SEEN THROUGH INFRARED MONITORS AND
CAN BE RECORDED ON PHOTOGRAPHIC FILM. WHEN THEY SHOW UP, THEY APPEAR
TO BE LUMINOSITIES THAT ARE ROUND OR DIFFUSE, AND EVEN RECTANGULAR IN
SHAPE. DETECTION AND STUDY OF ORBS HAS DEVELOPED WITH THE ADVENT OF
HIGH TECHNOLOGY GHOST INVESTIGATION.
ORBS APPEAR TO BE A FORM OF ENERGY OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN. THEY ARE NOT
STRAY LIGHT SOURCES, INSECTS OR DUST PARTICLES. THEY ARE NOT
SUFFICIENTLY STRONG ENOUGH TO SET OFF ANY TYPE OF MOTION DETECTION
METERS, NOR DO THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT MASS TO TO SET OFF INFRARED MOTION
DETECTORS. THEY SEEM TO DEFY GRAVITY AND CHANGE DIRECTIONS, SOMETIMES
QUICKLY. THEY TWINKLE. THEY REACT TO THE PRESENCE OF PEOPLE; THEY
INCREASE IN NUMBER WHEN PEOPLE ARE PRESENT IN HAUNTED LOCATIONS. THEY
APPEAR BOTH INDOORS AND OUTDOORS. THEY CANNOT BE EXPLAINED BY STATIC
DISCHARGE SUCH AS THAT WHICH IS CREATED BY WALKING ON CARPET, FOR THEY
ARE RECORDED IN HOUSES AND AND BUILDINGS THAT HAVE NO CARPET. ORBS ARE
NOT THE SAME AS GHOST LIGHTS, WHICH ARE SIMILAR IN SHAPE AND BEHAVIOR,
BUT WHICH ARE MUCH BRIGHTER AND ARE VISABLE TO THE NAKED EYE.
ORBS MAY BE SOME OF THE BEST EVIDENCE FOR HAUNTINGS. MANY PEOPLE
MISTAKENLY THINK THEY CAPTURED ORBS ON FILM. MANY OF THE MYSTERIOUS
BALLS OF LIGHT OR ARCS OF LIGHT THAT APPEAR IN PHOTOGRAPHS ARE
REFLECTIONS OF LIGHT ON THE CAMERA LENS, CAUSED BY LIGHT BOUNCING BACK
FROM ARTFICIAL LIGHTS, REFLECTIVE SURFACES AND SO ON.
THE PROBABILITY OF CAPTURING GENUINE ORBS INCREASES WHEN PHOTOGRAPHS
ARE TAKEN AT THE SAME TIME OTHER UNUSUAL PHENOMENA ARE EXPERIENCED,
SUCH AS ELECTRO MAGNETIC ENERGY AND SHARP CHANGES IN TEMPERATURE.
www.utahghost.org You can see some orbs (thetans without bodies) on
that website.
I recall that L. Ron Hubbard produced much more scientific evidence to
the existance of thetans without bodies than is on this and other
websites like that.
And be once more reminded to treat bodyless thetans (orbs) with
respect. Do not capture or harm them. They are basically your dead
relatives or somebody else's dead relatives. As less you believe in
the existance of past and future lives, as less likely you will stay
an orb, a thetan without body, after you dropped this body, because
you don't have the reality that you can pick up a new body and can
live again as human being.
Barbara Schwarz
SirLagsALot
of course it can, any moving living human leaves a heat trail, just as any
missile leaves a heat trail, heat seeking missiles use infrared detectors to
track, lock onto, and destroy inbound missiles. Science easily explains it.
> > take a pot of hot water, point an infrared camera at it, you will see
the
> > same thing
> >
> > water-thetans?
>
>
> First of all, I believe that EVP (electronic voice phenomen) and those
> ghost pictures of people appearing before the eyes and cameras of
> ghost hunters are SEGNPMSS produced with modern technology. They do
> that to keep the ghost hunters busy. But what's for real is certainly
> that a thetan consist of a tiny bit of matter, as discovered by L. Ron
> Hubbard, and that is why the thetans can be seen with infrared
> cameras.
>
what is SEGNPMSS...I see you mention it again and again
Have you talked to your family lately?
They are waiting for your phone call
Barbara Schwarz
>
> >>First of all, I believe that EVP (electronic voice phenomen) and those
> >>ghost pictures of people appearing before the eyes and cameras of
> >>ghost hunters are SEGNPMSS produced with modern technology. They do
> >>that to keep the ghost hunters busy. But what's for real is certainly
> >>that a thetan consist of a tiny bit of matter, as discovered by L. Ron
> >>Hubbard, and that is why the thetans can be seen with infrared
> >>cameras.
> >
> > what is SEGNPMSS...I see you mention it again and again
>
>
> SEGNPMSS = Still Existing German Nazi Psychiatrists Mindcontroller
> Secret Service
>
> Perhaps Barbara can provide a history of this organization? I can't
> seem to find any reference to it except for articles by Ms. Schwarz or
> in people's responses.
Some secret services are so secret they are not on any map. However,
the best access to the SEGNPMSS you will get by pulling strings within
the German secret service Office of the Protection of the Constitution.
Ask Tilman Hausherr. He knows all about it as their very own troll.
Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz
You don't get it, don't you? I saw through cameras these litte
spiritual balls moving. They also react to approach. They understand
you, sweat doesn't. Or do can you talk to your sweat? You probably can
but you get no reaction. They are the thetans, the souls, orbs if you
want. When you die, you, the spirit leaves the body. It can be seen
when you film somebody dying. It is not sweat. It is you, the
personality, the spirit.
I saw these orbs leaving an old cellar in which nobody lived and nobody
sweated for years. You can't see them with the bare eye and that is why
people don't know of them.
I think it is waste of time to discuss with you spiritual things, as
you are a gamer, you just shoot and you think everybody is just a piece
of meat. You are to unspiritual for me to continue this conversation.
That's like teaching an ape to write.
Call your family and ask them why you are so unspiritual that you even
deny your own spiritual roots.
This thread asked if anybody saw a thetan. I replied to it with yes.
Barbara Schwarz
www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
www.cchr.com
SirLagsALot
As I said in one of my earlier posts, I have my own understanding of what
reality is, and to be quite frank about it, your views dont reflect reality.
I will tell you these few things, I am closer to you than you realize, look
around and you just may catch a glimpse of me.
When you close your eyes at night and dream, I will be there, when you awake
write down what I have told you.
When the walls start closing in on you, close your eyes and go to that place
I have shown you.
Look at your own reflection in the water and let the truth wash your soul
clear.
The whispers you hear in the wind are my voice, can you understand the
words?
The time for clinging to false memories has come to an end.
They serve no purpose.
I can only show you the door, you must find the courage within yourself to
walk through it.
Each day is a new day, each moment that passes will never come again.
You must let go of the anger and the pain and the fear.
They serve no purpose.
Do you serve a purpose?
The choice is yours, decide.
Barbara Schwarz
SirLagsALot wrote:
> I am one of the most spiritual people you will ever meet.
RLOF! That is a good one!
> As I said in one of my earlier posts, I have my own understanding of what
> reality is, and to be quite frank about it, your views dont reflect reality.
Hey, what a remarkable concident. I have my own understanding of what
reality is and your views don't reflect reality but blindness.
> I will tell you these few things, I am closer to you than you realize, look
> around and you just may catch a glimpse of me.
Haha! You have to be a lot scarier to creep me out. :)
> When you close your eyes at night and dream, I will be there, when you awake
> write down what I have told you.
Trying to play psych or what?
> When the walls start closing in on you, close your eyes and go to that place
> I have shown you.
Your hypnotizer crap does not impress me, Baller.
> Look at your own reflection in the water and let the truth wash your soul
> clear.
Hey, I am a mirrow. Don't need to look in a rain pool. My "soul", my
personality is clear and clean. Your's not. Lots of bami blood is
sticking on yours.
> The whispers you hear in the wind are my voice, can you understand the
> words?
Lol! Wanna be a case officer who has access to my mind? Not even psychs
are able to make me do what they want by sending me crap via radio
waves. What makes you think you get through to me, gamer? Run by a red
neck! That is so funny!
> The time for clinging to false memories has come to an end.
> They serve no purpose.
False memories not, but I have none.
> I can only show you the door, you must find the courage within yourself to
> walk through it.
You have to go alone through your door. Don't shut yourself in the leg
while doing so.
> Each day is a new day, each moment that passes will never come again.
LOL. And you think I have not figured out that myself?
> You must let go of the anger and the pain and the fear.
Have not any of that.
> They serve no purpose.
>
> Do you serve a purpose?
>
> The choice is yours, decide.
Get a life!
Barbara Schwarz
SirLagsALot
you cannot ignore my posts, you feel compelled to respond, I could have been
talking to anyone...but you felt I was talking directly to you.
you find yourself stopping and thinking about what you post, on several
occasions you have backspaced out what you were going to say and rewritten
it.
the truth is, you may already be too far gone, too wrapped up in your
paranoid delusional world for anyone to reach you.
but you and I both know that you are losing the game.
the only winning move is not to play.
your move.....
Cerridwen
That's enough, I'm plonking you.
I'm plonking you because you rudely, did not use attributions and
because I wanted to see exactly who you were replying to, I
had to be completely dev't and go look it up on google.
As I assumed you were continuing your never ending
insane conversation with Barbara Schwartz.
I'm also plonking for you for being one of the newbies that likes
to torment the mentally ill on a newsgroup.
Since that seems to be your only purpose here, then into
my kf you go with the rest of them.
Adios,
Cerridwen
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/
So much entheta, so little time.
SirLagsALot
"Cerridwen" <noad...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:BAO3W83P38579.9207523148@anonymous.poster...
imagine that...
Lisa Ruby
>Has Anybody Seen A BodyThetan
Body thetans is a euphemism for demons. Demons are realistically
depicted on the back covers of horror DVD/ videos and on occult video
games and computer games.
Scientology extracts demons that were able to gain access to their
members' lives via trauma or sin such as child molestation, rape, child
abuse, drug abuse, drunkeness, occult involvement, etc. The extraction
(exorcism) of demons for the CoS's use is known as auditing.
Auditing has enabled the leaders of the CoS to harness a large amount
of spiritual power in a short period of time.
Reverse auditing inflicts demonic suffering on a Scientologist who is
deemed to be in need of "handling." The impartation of demons on
assignment (curses) can cause the individual thus targeted to go
psychotic or frighten them into total submission.
Please get out of Scientology (and renounce this work of darkness)
before Scientology destroys you completely.
Lisa Ruby
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net
SirLagsALot
had a twisted sense of humor)
"Lisa Ruby" <Commis...@groupmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124164349.7...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Zinj
noad...@nowhere.com says...
In an atmosphere as diverse as ARS, where even *theoretically*, the only
predictable 'common element' is interest in, and for the most part,
opposition to, Scientology (whether the 'organization' or the
'philosophy' which spawned it) it's to be expected that various
participants will have 'pet peeves'.
I have two:
1) people who say 'I could care less' when they mean 'I couldn't care
less', and;
2) people who think the content of their no doubt admirable 'killfile'
is of broad public import and interest.
Zinj
David Jay Lebow
>In an atmosphere as diverse as ARS, where even *theoretically*, the only
>predictable 'common element' is interest in, and for the most part,
>opposition to, Scientology (whether the 'organization' or the
>'philosophy' which spawned it) it's to be expected that various
>participants will have 'pet peeves'.
That's true.
>I have two:
And I could care less what they are.
>1) people who say 'I could care less' when they mean 'I couldn't care
>less', and;
But if you insist on telling everybody what yours is, I'll tell you mine:
people who comment on other people's announcements that they've 'killfiled'
somebody as if this was of broad public import and interest.
>2) people who think the content of their no doubt admirable 'killfile'
>is of broad public import and interest.
I wish I didn't have to spend so much time trying to rustle dirt on
Scientology critics when I could be having fun here. But it does pay well.
David Jay Lebow
Zinj
texass...@sbcglobal.net says...
> I believe it's no coincidence that thetan is a lisped form of satan (Hubbard
> had a twisted sense of humor)
At the risk of seeming to support
Schwarzian/Scottian/Rubiyan/Ricean/Hubbardian levels of 'conspiracy
theory' I'll have to disagree here.
Hubbard was quite obviously a very terrified (if megalomanic) little
being who took 'His' demonology and occultism pretty seriously.
It's not *impossible* that the author of the 'Affirmations' might have
deliberately punned 'Thetan' from 'Satan', but, if so, it would *not*
have been a 'joke'.
But if I had to guess, I'd say it's a coincidence. Hubbard was seldom
so straightforward.
That's not to say that 'He' wasn't deadly serious about his 'satanism'
(in the classic, rather than the 'New Age') sense. I think He was.
I always get a bit of a giggle out of the cover of #9 of the 'Mission
Earth' decology's cover:
http://zinjifar0.tripod.com/me902.jpg
When you consider that that volume of the otherwise unmentionable
'series' also contains direct instructions for any number of actually
carried out 'Scientology Ops' against 'enemies', and that it also
contains Hubbard's hilarious paean to military sodomy... well, of the 10
it's a stand-out.
The cover is just icing on the cake, but it certainly *looks* like how
Hubbard saw Himself.
Number Nine; Number Nine; Number Nine
And, here's where I'm going to get in trouble.
Without accepting Christian demonology or beliefs about Satan or 'evil',
it's occured to me that, if we grant the premise, *this* is what
happened:
Hubbard wanted to 'invoke' a demon.
He did.
Scientology itself (both the organization and the philosophy) is that
demon incarnate.
He called it up; and It devoured him body and soul.
It's the common fate of magician's apprentices :)
Zinj
Zinj
Rema...@See.Comment.Header says...
<snip>
> I wish I didn't have to spend so much time trying to rustle dirt on
> Scientology critics when I could be having fun here. But it does pay well.
>
> David Jay Lebow
Tch. I thought that *was* the 'fun'
Where's the party dood?
Zinj
David Jay Lebow
>In article <2HMV92MT3858...@anonymous.poster>
>David Jay Lebow says...
>
><snip>
>
>> I wish I didn't have to spend so much time trying to rustle dirt on
>> Scientology critics when I could be having fun here. But it does pay well.
>>
>> David Jay Lebow
>
>Tch. I thought that *was* the 'fun'
Well, sort of, maybe, not really. Like I said, the money's good. But it's
not easy to hang on to a broad when she finds out you do dirty work for a
criminal cult. Puts them off. I don't know why.
>Where's the party dood?
I wish I knew. I goofed the floof on the last one. Didn't find out about it
until everybody had gone home. I gotta couple hundred for you if you can
tell me where it was and who was there. Write me. Le...@CriminalMinds.com
David Jay Lebow
Ed
One of the universally recognized most valuable posters on
this newsgroup. One who has done more good work here in a single day
than you ever have.
> imagine that...
Look, I don't read your posts either but I haven't yet
killfiled you since you have been on IRC. But you ought to know by now
that trying to reason or argue with BS or TS is a complete waste of
time and it promotes OSA's agenda of making a.r.s. an unpleasant,
nasty place where most posts are worthless, insane noise and where the
occasional news or substance is buried and inaccessible to the people
who haven't got killfiles going and are new at this--the people who
most need access.
So ^&%$# stop forwarding OSA's agenda. You are not impressing anyone.
If you wanted to be useful, you could help discourage the next newbies
who come along and try to argue with BS or TS.
Ed
SirLagsALot
TS is a drone and in all the posts I've read from it, it seldom responds to
dialog,
BS is a joke, the only person who takes BS seriously is BS.
She is in desperate need of psychiatric help, but the fact is she is not
"yet" a danger to herself or others around her.
Sometimes you have to "slap them in the face" just to get their attention.
if anyone wants to killfile me, do it, no need to tell me about it,
I have dealt with people like BS before, sometimes they can be made to see
reason, sometimes they cannot.
Before a person can be helped, they must first recognize that they need
help, and secondly be willing to accept that help.
If a person chooses to believe a conspiracy exists, then no doubt they will
find evidence to support that theory, ou underestimate peoples ability to
discern between legitimate posts and repeated spam.
You will notice that I seldom if ever repost the complete post I am
responding to, I find the repetition monotonous and finding the actual
response within all the >lines annoying, I try to include the relevant parts
I am responding to and <snip> the rest.
I assume someone has read what I am responding to and will understand the
context. If someone has to google to understand then perhaps they werent
paying attention in the first place, or have killfiled the person I am
responding to, in which case they didnt want to see it in the first place.
"Ed" <met...@aol.com> wrote in message news:4301E325...@aol.com...
Mike Gormez
<texass...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<zAmMe.1625$Z%6....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>:
>you havent once seen me try to argue with TS
>TS is a drone and in all the posts I've read from it, it seldom responds to
>dialog,
>
>BS is a joke, the only person who takes BS seriously is BS.
>
>She is in desperate need of psychiatric help, but the fact is she is not
>"yet" a danger to herself or others around her.
>
>Sometimes you have to "slap them in the face" just to get their attention.
Fuck it! The woman has had enough to endure without you 'slapping' sense
into her. You are an abuser of the mentally ill.
>
>if anyone wants to killfile me, do it, no need to tell me about it,
Yes it is necessary, so other newbies know what path not to follow. You
are doing the newsgroup a disservice.
>
>I have dealt with people like BS before, sometimes they can be made to see
>reason, sometimes they cannot.
You need treatment.
>Before a person can be helped, they must first recognize that they need
>help, and secondly be willing to accept that help.
>
>If a person chooses to believe a conspiracy exists, then no doubt they will
>find evidence to support that theory, ou underestimate peoples ability to
>discern between legitimate posts and repeated spam.
You ignoramus. She has chosen no such thing! She is not an hysterical
housewife who found a mouse under the fridge, the whole point is that her
broken mind is playing games with her perceptions. No matter how much you
'slap' her, she 'knows' she is as much right as you know you are.
--
Mike Gormez
- World Institute of Scientology Enterprises (WISE) - www.stop-wise.biz
- www.whyaretheydead.net - Why Are They Dead, Scientology?
- Child abuse and neglect by scientologists www.taxexemptchildabuse.net
- www.psychassualt.org - Scientology hatred of mental health (CCHR)
Barbara Schwarz
SirLagsALot wrote:
> you havent once seen me try to argue with TS
> TS is a drone and in all the posts I've read from it, it seldom responds to
> dialog,
>
> BS is a joke
Killed any innocent life lately, Baller and Red Neck?
Barbara Schwarz
interesting websites:
www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
www.cchr.org
SirLagsALot
"Mike Gormez" <mgo...@chello.nl> wrote in message
news:3mee0mF...@individual.net...
> "On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:18:07 GMT, "SirLagsALot"
> <texass...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> <zAmMe.1625$Z%6....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>:
> >If a person chooses to believe a conspiracy exists, then no doubt they
will
> >find evidence to support that theory, ou underestimate peoples ability to
> >discern between legitimate posts and repeated spam.
>
> You ignoramus. She has chosen no such thing! She is not an hysterical
> housewife who found a mouse under the fridge, the whole point is that her
> broken mind is playing games with her perceptions. No matter how much you
> 'slap' her, she 'knows' she is as much right as you know you are.
>
>
> --
> Mike Gormez
>
>If a person chooses to believe a conspiracy exists, then no doubt they will
>find evidence to support that theory, ou underestimate peoples ability to
>discern between legitimate posts and repeated spam.
(I should have added "disinformation" to that line)
that statement speaks as much to the critics as it does to anyone else...
thats not to say that no conspiracies exist, I have seen evidence in several
areas where conflicts of interest do exist, where the truth has been
subjugated, and where people trying to expose the truth have been victims of
dirty, if not illegal tactics.
perhaps I have gone a bit off topic in my posts, I guess sarcasm is lost on
you
P.S. I dont give a fuck what you think about me personally. I wish you all
the luck in the world in your crusade.
Larry T.
"Lisa Ruby" <Commis...@groupmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124164349.7...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Larry's title for his post:
>
>>Has Anybody Seen A BodyThetan
Lisa:
Sooner or later I may get a word in edgewise.
(LOL)
--
Larry T.
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeoqz2m/scientology/
"We don't want children,
we have been Agnostics for years"...Bill and Rita
NaughtyGurly
Johnny G da Man 2B!
John 732-264-6253
Joseph 973-616-7575
FFP 800-823-1030
Ed
I was in Scientology for almost 20 years and I, like a lot of
ex-Scientologists, monitor this newsgroup to bring clarity and truth
to the subject of the monstrous deeds that organization has done to
enslave people. The point for most participants of a.r.s. is to free
people from the RPF, from brainwashing, from enforced family breakups,
all the rest. It is not to play kiddie games. You think you'll get
some sort of brownie points somewhere for "respecting no authority"
here? You won't, and when you grow up you may regret that you were
helping the wrong side.
Ed
SirLags
have in the first place
The Chief Instigator
>SirLagsALot wrote:
>> you havent once seen me try to argue with TS
>> TS is a drone and in all the posts I've read from it, it seldom responds to
>> dialog,
>> BS is a joke
>Killed any innocent life lately, Baller and Red Neck?
Filed any more frivolous FOIA requests lately, SLC Kook *and* Illegal Alien?
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
Abby
You're trying to find something in Barbara that doesn't exist. Why
does that bother you so? Since you find yourself to be superior, you
should just be able to move on. You know, find someone to debate who
you feel is more your equal. So why don't you do it?
SirLagsALot
"Abby" <abbyn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124256523....@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I've never claimed myself superior to anyone, to do that would be the height
of arrogance, I believe Barbara to be a very intelligent person (if not
completely blinded by her delusions), and where intelligence exists, so does
the capacity for reason, maybe hearing a story even more unbelievable than
her own will be the straw that kicks that reasoning capacity in.
And the fact remains, I (not the only one) have had an influence on Barbaras
thought processes, it's called learning.
What she does with it is her decision.
Barbara Schwarz
ramona wrote:
> >
> > http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/hearing/coch.asp
> >
> > a cochlear implant restores partial hearing to deaf people
> >
> > and they are expensive as hell...Im wondering who would fund such a massive
> > implantation conspiracy
>
> SLAL,
>
> You realize she isn't talking about THAT kind of implant? The cochlear
> implant is a real device that reinterpretes sound for the deaf. She's
> talking about a "middle ear implant" that allows "psychs" to control
> your thoughts and actions. "Psychs" apparently are playing/controlling
> us as if we are Mario and/or Luigi of the video game.
Back to be Ramona, Kassandra or Cultpxt? Anyway, you got at least the
basic of what I was talking about. Silent sounds and mindcontrol.
>
> For a time, B.S. did not have a memory of her dearly beloved "Marty
> Rathbun." Then one day she "recovered" her memory of him as a spouse.
The memory started to come back when I saw him in Los Angeles. What is
wrong with that?
ladayla
says...
>
>I was gonna ask "is one missing?"
>
>Johnny G da Man 2B!
Listen, I have some pint Mason jars full of 'em. I've been collecting 'em for 20
years. These can be bought for only $50.00 per pint. Lemme know how many pints
you would like. This is a special price for ARSers only. When I put 'em on EBay
the price goes up.
la
NaughtyGurly
sauce?
Johnny G da Man 2B!
ramona
> Back to be Ramona, Kassandra or Cultpxt? Anyway, you got at least the
> basic of what I was talking about. Silent sounds and mindcontrol.
Barbara,
I understand that there are sounds that our limited hearing, determined
by frequency range, does not allow us to hear. The problem is that if
we can't hear it, we cannot be controlled by it. Alligators make low
frequency sounds that cause water to "dance" on the partially submerged
snout. We know this by seeing, not by any other perception. One cannot
have subliminal hearing the way that subliminal messages were believed
to be activated. "Silent sounds" therefore would be an impossibility
as far as our perception and/or response to them. So, if we can't hear
it, we cannot be "mind controlled" by it. The sound must be in our
frequency range of hearing. It is because of this that a middle ear
implant would not work. To respond you must be able to perceive/hear
the sound.
> >
> > For a time, B.S. did not have a memory of her dearly beloved "Marty
> > Rathbun." Then one day she "recovered" her memory of him as a spouse.
>
> The memory started to come back when I saw him in Los Angeles. What is
> wrong with that?
What is right with it? How do you perceive it as normal to have lost a
memory of a spouse? Amnesia is a very rare occurance and usually
related to trauma. Why are there no maps that contain Chattanooga in
Utah on any maps, even old LDS church maps at the family history
center? There are so many maps that it is a physical impossibility that
all those maps were confiscated and altered just for your sake alone,
besides the LDS church has a strong history of defying the U.S.
government. Your mother would also know for fact where you were born,
since she was there. I'm guessing she is saying that you were born in
Germany. I am also guessing that she can name your biological father
and it's not Hubbard. But you deny the facts and have created your own
story.
You are a very bright woman that believes things proven not to be true.
It seems that Scientology hurt you very badly, yet you refuse to give
them the credit for damaging you.
You are a grand person Barbara without the imagined beliefs regarding
Hubbard, Eisenhower, Submarines, Marty, or a town in Utah that does not
nor ever has existed. I just wish you would come to believe it.
Ramona
Barbara Schwarz
ramona wrote:
> > Back to be Ramona, Kassandra or Cultpxt? Anyway, you got at least the
> > basic of what I was talking about. Silent sounds and mindcontrol.
>
> Barbara,
>
> I understand that there are sounds that our limited hearing, determined
> by frequency range, does not allow us to hear.
> The problem is that if
> we can't hear it, we cannot be controlled by it.
Wrong. Almost all doctors know admit that you even hear when you are
unconscious.
> Alligators make low
> frequency sounds that cause water to "dance" on the partially submerged
> snout. We know this by seeing, not by any other perception. One cannot
> have subliminal hearing the way that subliminal messages were believed
> to be activated. "Silent sounds" therefore would be an impossibility
> as far as our perception and/or response to them.
Wrong. Read up about silent sounds and subconsciousness.
>So, if we can't hear
> it, we cannot be "mind controlled" by it. The sound must be in our
> frequency range of hearing.
Yes, and when you sleep or when you are unconscious you ARE in the
frequency range. I had a friend who had surgery. During the operation
the nurses and doctors were talking about a special cake. Hours later,
she woke up and the first she ordered was that cake. The nurses started
to laugh and told her then why.
> It is because of this that a middle ear
> implant would not work. To respond you must be able to perceive/hear
> the sound.
I am very sure that you have one and run on it since you are a six year
old kid.
> > >
> > > For a time, B.S. did not have a memory of her dearly beloved "Marty
> > > Rathbun." Then one day she "recovered" her memory of him as a spouse.
> >
> > The memory started to come back when I saw him in Los Angeles. What is
> > wrong with that?
>
> What is right with it? How do you perceive it as normal to have lost a
> memory of a spouse?
Read ny life story Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news, 92
installments. I have no time to repeat it all.
> Amnesia is a very rare occurance and usually
> related to trauma.
Unless psychs grab you and do remove your memory deliberately. Eternal
Sunhsine of the spotless mind is just a movie, but memory can be
removed with laser.
> Why are there no maps that contain Chattanooga in
> Utah on any maps, even old LDS church maps at the family history
> center?
Because it is under water, there is no map.
>There are so many maps that it is a physical impossibility that
> all those maps were confiscated and altered just for your sake alone,
> besides the LDS church has a strong history of defying the U.S.
> government.
I asked the LDS church for details about the village, as I remember
there was a LDS ward in it, despite I delivered it twice to them, they
choose not to reply, but they respond to any other crap and call me
Dear Sister. They don't want to tell.
> Your mother would also know for fact where you were born,
> since she was there.
My biological mother was murdered during child birth by Dr. Jekyll and
Mr. Hyde.
>I'm guessing she is saying that you were born in
> Germany.
Rosemarie is dead too. She was not my biological mother. She showed me
pictures of two different kids and claimed that both are me. If I was
both I must had eye surgery, as one of these kids had eyes as huge as
golf balls and that was not me.
> I am also guessing that she can name your biological father
> and it's not Hubbard. But you deny the facts and have created your own
> story.
Spare me that crap. Read my life story, I explained it in there.
Rosemarie was used by Germans to kidnap me from Ron.
>
> You are a very bright woman that believes things proven not to be true.
I believe my own perceptions, conclusions and memories and not the lies
by others.
> It seems that Scientology hurt you very badly, yet you refuse to give
> them the credit for damaging you.
SCN did not hurt me badly, psychs did.
>
> You are a grand person Barbara without the imagined beliefs regarding
> Hubbard, Eisenhower, Submarines, Marty, or a town in Utah that does not
> nor ever has existed. I just wish you would come to believe it.
Sorry, tell your psychiatric case officer I will never become as stupid
as he wished me to be.
Barbara Schwarz
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>
> Ramona
Barbara Schwarz
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ramona
Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> ramona wrote:
> > > Back to be Ramona, Kassandra or Cultpxt? Anyway, you got at least the
> > > basic of what I was talking about. Silent sounds and mindcontrol.
> >
> > Barbara,
> >
> > I understand that there are sounds that our limited hearing, determined
> > by frequency range, does not allow us to hear.
> Good.
>
> > The problem is that if
> > we can't hear it, we cannot be controlled by it.
>
> Wrong. Almost all doctors know admit that you even hear when you are
> unconscious.
But being unconscious you still hear within the same frequency. I do
not deny that you are able to hear while even asleep, but it MUST be
within the frequencies that humans are capable of receiving.
>
> > Alligators make low
> > frequency sounds that cause water to "dance" on the partially submerged
> > snout. We know this by seeing, not by any other perception. One cannot
> > have subliminal hearing the way that subliminal messages were believed
> > to be activated. "Silent sounds" therefore would be an impossibility
> > as far as our perception and/or response to them.
>
> Wrong. Read up about silent sounds and subconsciousness.
I think you are misinterpreting what I am saying. I am only saying
that hearing must be within certain frequencies. Being asleep or
subconcious does not change the frequencies your body is able to
interpret. Please note that I did NOT say that you cannot hear while
unconscious.
>
> >So, if we can't hear
> > it, we cannot be "mind controlled" by it. The sound must be in our
> > frequency range of hearing.
>
> Yes, and when you sleep or when you are unconscious you ARE in the
> frequency range.
I do not believe you understand what frequency range is...hold on and I
will find you a link.
http://www.lsu.edu/deafness/HearingRange.html This gives the range of
frequencies of different species. Please remember these are averages
and that some are able to hear above and below within about 50 hz.
Then there is the frequency for voice range.
http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/Multimedia/node271.html
"Normal voice range is about 500 Hz to 2 kHz
Low frequencies are vowels and bass
High frequencies are consonants "
This means that when someone speaks they create vibrations/change of
air pressure and those vibrations are measured in frequencies.
"Low sounds have a long frequency wave and high sounds a shorter wave.
The bass tuba can produce a "pitch" as low as 50 Hz and a piccolo as
high as 4500 Hz, the range of the highest piano key. The human ear can
hear frequencies from 20 to 20,000 Hz, with most intelligible speech
falling within the relatively narrow range of 500 to 2500 Hz. (Figure
2) "
http://history.acusd.edu/gen/recording/dynamic.html
>I had a friend who had surgery. During the operation
> the nurses and doctors were talking about a special cake. Hours later,
> she woke up and the first she ordered was that cake. The nurses started
> to laugh and told her then why.
That is because talking is IN her range of hearing. We are not talking
about that but "silent sounds." Those sounds which fall OUTSIDE of
human hearing. Again, if you can't hear it, you cannot perceive it.
>
> > It is because of this that a middle ear
> > implant would not work. To respond you must be able to perceive/hear
> > the sound.
>
> I am very sure that you have one and run on it since you are a six year
> old kid.
And I am sure I have not. The middle ear is VERY easy to see with a
simple otoscope.
> > > >
> > > > For a time, B.S. did not have a memory of her dearly beloved "Marty
> > > > Rathbun." Then one day she "recovered" her memory of him as a spouse.
> > >
> > > The memory started to come back when I saw him in Los Angeles. What is
> > > wrong with that?
> >
> > What is right with it? How do you perceive it as normal to have lost a
> > memory of a spouse?
> Read ny life story Barbara Schwarz reveals shocking news, 92
> installments. I have no time to repeat it all.
>
> > Amnesia is a very rare occurance and usually
> > related to trauma.
>
> Unless psychs grab you and do remove your memory deliberately.
While adding to memory is fairly simple, removing a memory is not.
>Eternal
> Sunhsine of the spotless mind is just a movie, but memory can be
> removed with laser.
Not unless they were cutting out portions of the brain.
>
> > Why are there no maps that contain Chattanooga in
> > Utah on any maps, even old LDS church maps at the family history
> > center?
>
> Because it is under water, there is no map.
Yes, there are maps of water in Utah.
>
> >There are so many maps that it is a physical impossibility that
> > all those maps were confiscated and altered just for your sake alone,
> > besides the LDS church has a strong history of defying the U.S.
> > government.
>
> I asked the LDS church for details about the village, as I remember
> there was a LDS ward in it, despite I delivered it twice to them, they
> choose not to reply, but they respond to any other crap and call me
> Dear Sister. They don't want to tell.
Because it does not exist. Delivering twice or a thousand times does
not change the fact that the church would not have evidence of a town
that was non-existant. You also realize that Utah is predominantly
desert?
>
> > Your mother would also know for fact where you were born,
> > since she was there.
> My biological mother was murdered during child birth by Dr. Jekyll and
> Mr. Hyde.
Both of which only exist in stories and you, on the other hand are
quite real.
>
> >I'm guessing she is saying that you were born in
> > Germany.
>
> Rosemarie is dead too. She was not my biological mother. She showed me
> pictures of two different kids and claimed that both are me. If I was
> both I must had eye surgery, as one of these kids had eyes as huge as
> golf balls and that was not me.
Did Rosemarie claim to have adopted you or did she claim to be your
birth mother and you simply did not accept her statment?
Regarding pictures, that would depend on the pose or perhaps she was
confused. I have two daughters and some pictures I am unable to
distinguish the two. Perhaps you were shown a picture of your sister.
>
> > I am also guessing that she can name your biological father
> > and it's not Hubbard. But you deny the facts and have created your own
> > story.
> Spare me that crap. Read my life story, I explained it in there.
Yes and it appears invented, likely because of your breakdown when CO$
kicked you out.
> Rosemarie was used by Germans to kidnap me from Ron.
Or Rosemarie was your mother and you were an inventive person that
started to believe her own tales.
> >
> > You are a very bright woman that believes things proven not to be true.
>
> I believe my own perceptions, conclusions and memories and not the lies
> by others.
Ah, but what you have told yourself are not truths. You denied
Rosemarie as your mother, though she was, for Hubbard/CO$. We know
what CO$ did with you since youare no longer affiliated with them.
> > It seems that Scientology hurt you very badly, yet you refuse to give
> > them the credit for damaging you.
>
> SCN did not hurt me badly, psychs did.
Then why do you not affiliate with CO$? Why do they not embrace you as
the daughter of Hubbard? They too reject your claim as child of
Hubbard. They cast you out when you did not serve their purpose any
longer. Though it was over 10 years ago, where was CO$ when you were
forced to eat from the garbage? Why did they not give you a meal and
other assistance?
> >
> > You are a grand person Barbara without the imagined beliefs regarding
> > Hubbard, Eisenhower, Submarines, Marty, or a town in Utah that does not
> > nor ever has existed. I just wish you would come to believe it.
>
> Sorry, tell your psychiatric case officer I will never become as stupid
> as he wished me to be.
I have no Pschiatric Case Officer. I have no need of one. The thing
that infuriates me is that CO$ uses you, damages you, casts you aside,
and you defend them. Yes CO$ is surely a very dangerous group when
they cause people to break to the point of living outside of reality
and then cast them aside because they are no longer useful $$$ for
them.
Ramona
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