1977 Raid Doc-Church Guardian's Office-"Re:Manson, Bruce Davis"
Feisty
From: Jeff Lee
Subject: Xenu: Guardian's Office - Re: Manson, Bruce Davies
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,
alt.religion.scientology.squick.squick.squick
Date: 1996/06/05
The following is a document from the Church of Scientology's Guardian's
Office (now called the Office of Special Affairs, or OSA), which was
seized by the FBI in its raids on Scientology headquarters (Fifield
Manor and the Cedars Compled) in 1977.
This series of postings was spurred as a response to the Scientology
spam. These documents may be found at:
http://www.gate.net/~shipbrk/Co$/docs
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GS-C Comm
GS-G 22 June 70
D/G Intell U.S.
Dear Mary Sue, COMPLIANCE REPORT
RE: MANSON, BRUCE DAVIS
There have been numerous new developments on this case
and they are as follows.
An individual by the name of Steve Grogen appeared on our
lines (PM). I received word that he had made statements that he
was a member of Mansons family and therefore started some intell.
action, which at first consisted of talking to the girls he had
been in contact with. By the time I had finished talking to them
Grogen had been put away in jail for car theft. In spite of
numerous efforts on our part it was impossible to get together
with him. I had the girl he seemed to be most in comm with, journey
out to the valley on four different occasions to talk to him
and in spite of our best efforts he was never made available. He
was either "in court" or the jail was undergoing extensive re-
decoration. Of course we did not want it known that a member of
The Church was trying to see him. At the same time this was going
on we received word that two members of the Manson Family "squeeky
Frome" and "Sandy Goode" were staying at the Viking Motel on 3rd
and Alverado which is in close proximity to the org. We made no
efforts to contactthem.
On 18 June 80 the following report was received by me.
Report of interview with Raul Morales, Re: Charles Manson.
According to Raul: Raul arrived in prison on McNeil Island,
Washington in 1962 and became a cell mate of Lafayette Raimer
allegedly a trained Scientology auditor (about Level I in
Raul's estimation) and was introduced to Scientology at that
time. Raimer was auditing in prison at that time and in one
10 man cell had managed to gather a group of about 7, all in
Scientology. Charles Manson entered later and studied, did TRO
etc. along with his cell-mates and received approximately 150
hours of auditing from Raimer. Processes used were CCH's,
Help processes (Who have you helped-Who have you not helped) and
other Dichotomy processes (Rauls terms, such as What can you
confront, what would you rather not confront), Havingness (Such
as "What can you have?" "Look around and find something you can
have. Look around and find something you're not in." Rainer kept recor
records of his auditing. Manson got super-energetic & flipped
out when he'd been audited and would, for a time, talk about
nothing but Scientology to the extent that people avoided his
company. After a while, however, Manson was screaming to get away
from his auditor (in Raul's opinion, he'd been severely over-run
or something). He eventually managed to get put in solitary confi-
nement to get away from his auditor. Eventually prison officials
got suspicious of the groups strange activities and broke up the
group. Subsequently, Raul was released from the prison in 1965.
Raimer's wife was in training here at the L.A. Org in 1965-66; she
had disconnected from Raimer. Raul just found out yesterday that
another friend, Marvin White, later sent Manson books (after the
Scientology group was broken up) on hypnotism and black magic,
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From: Mike O'Connor
Subject: Re: Xenu: Guardian's Office - Re: Manson, Bruce Davies
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology, alt.religion.scientology.xenu
Date: 1996/06/05
In article <4p4v3e$24...@news.gate.net>, shi...@gate.net (Jeff Lee) wrote:
> The following is a document from the Church of Scientology's Guardian's
> Office (now called the Office of Special Affairs, or OSA), which was
> seized by the FBI in its raids on Scientology headquarters (Fifield
> Manor and the Cedars Compled) in 1977.
>
> This series of postings was spurred as a response to the Scientology
> spam. These documents may be found at:
>
> http://www.gate.net/~shipbrk/Co$/docs
>
Thanks for your series of postings, they are coming through loud and
clear. I'm seeing them all with no problem.
Manson is an interesting subject. Here is what Andrew Milne, paid
spokesperson for the cult, said about Manson in several of his replies to
people who asserted that Manson had 150 hours of auditing some time before
his famous murders:
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[In <47v5mb$6...@crl11.crl.com>, mi...@crl.com (Andrew Milne) wrote]
> Manson was never a member of the Church of Scientology
> nor did he receive services (auditing) from any Church of
> Scientology. He would not have been accepted for membership
> in the Church due to his criminal record and unethical
> nature.
>
> These facts have been proven and documented for
> more than 20 years.
>
> Indeed, in 1971, Vincent T. Bugliosi -- former Los
> Angeles deputy district attorney in charge of the Manson case
> for the city, and subsequent author of the best selling book
> "Helter Skelter" -- stated the following in a letter
> addressing this point:
>
> "This is to advise that our investigation of the
> Tate-La Bianca murders has not revealed any evidence showing
> that any member of the Church of Scientology was involved in
> these murders, nor have we found any evidence that Charles
> Manson was a practicing member of the Church of Scientology
> at the time of the aforementioned murders.
>
> "I hope the above statement will be of some value to
> you and your church in the event that anyone in the future
> accuses the Church of Scientology of being somehow involved
> in these heinous murders."
>
> Thus any attempts to link Manson and his crimes to
> Scientology is a sorry and spurious attempt to create
> controversy where there is none, as proven here.
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[I sent the below to Milne:]
Not DURING the murders, BEFORE the murders. Let's see what else Mr.
Bugliosi says, then what Manson says, then what some others say:
++++++++++++++++++++++
Upon being arrested in 1961, "Manson gave as his claimed
religion `Scientologist,' stating that he `has never
settled upon a religious formula for his beliefs and is
presently seeking an answer to his question in the new
mental health cult known as Scientology.' "Scientology, an
outgrowth of science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard's
Dianetics, was just coming into vogue at this time.
Manson's teacher, i.e. `auditor', was another convice,
Lanier Rayner. Manson would later claim that while in
prison he achieved Scientology's highest level, `beta-
clear'...
"Although Manson remained interested in Scientology much
longer than he did in any other subject except music, it
appears that...he stuck with it only as long as his
enthusiasm lasted, then dropped it, extracting and
retaining a number of phrases (`auditioning' [sic], 'cease
to exist', 'coming to Now') and some concepts (karma,
reincarnation, etc.) which, perhaps fittingly, Scientology
had borrowed in the first place."
-- HELTER SKELTER by Vincent T. Bugliosi, page 144
++++++++++++++++++++++
By August of 1966, with little other explanation than his
constant inability to stick with anything, a pre-release
prison report mentions that "Manson had no further
interest in academic or vocational training; that he was
no longer an advocate of Scientology..."
-- HELTER SKELTER by Vincent T. Bugliosi, page 146
++++++++++++++++++++++
"I knew too, both from his prison records and from my conversations
with him, that Manson's involvement with Scientology had been more
than a passing fad. Manson told me, as he had Paul Watkins, that he
had reached the highest state, "theta clear", and no longer had any
connection with or need for Scienology."
-- HELTER SKELTER by Vincent T. Bugliosi, page 635
++++++++++++++++++++++
On November 21, 1969, the bodies of James Sharp, fiften, and Dorren
Gaul, nineteen, were found in an alley in downtown Los Angeles. The
two teen-agers had been killed elsewhere with a long-bladed kniife or
bayonet, then dumped there. Each had been stabbed over fifty times.
Ramparts division Leiutenant Earl Deemer investigated the Sharp-Gaul
murders, as did Los Angeles Times reporter Cohen. Although the two men
felt there was a good possibility that a Familty member was involved
in the slayings, the murders remain unsolved.
Both James Sharp and Doreen Gaul were Scientologists, the latter a
Scientology "clear" who had been residing in a Church of Scientology
house. According to unconfirmed reports, Doreen Gaul was a former girl
friend of Manson Family member Bruce Davis, himself an
ex-Scientologist.
Davis' whereabouts at the times of the murders of Sharp, Gaul and Jane
Doe 59 are not known. He disappeared shortly after being questioned in
connection with the death of Zero.
On December 1, 1969, Joel Dean Pugh, husband of Family member Sandy
Good, was found with his throat slit in a London hotel room. As noted,
local police ruled the death a suicide. On learning of Pugh's demise,
Inyo County DA Frank Fowles made official inquiries, specifically
asking Interpol to check visas to detrmine if one Bruce Davis was in
England at the time.
Scotland Yard replied as follows: "It has been established that Davis
is recorded as embarking at London airport for the United States of
America on 25th April 1969 while holding United States passport 612
2568. At this time he gave his address as Dormer Cottage, Felbridge,
Surrey. This address is owned by the Scientology Movement and houses
followers of this organization."
-- HELTER SKELTER by Vincent T. Bugliosi, page 647
++++++++++++++++++++++
"The subject that interested me was understanding and knowing my own mind.
Prison psychs had told me often enough that I had 'persecution' and
'inferiority' complexed but they never did anything to help me overcome
those faults..."
"I read whatever books I could find (and understand) that dealt with mind
development. A cell partner turned me on to Scientology. With him and
another guy I got pretty heavy into Dianetics and Scientology. Through
this and by other studies, I came out of my state of depression. I was
understanding myself better, had a positive outlook on life, and knew how
to direct my energies to each day and each task"
-- MANSON IN HIS OWN WORDS, as told to Nuel Emmons p.69
++++++++++++++++++++++
"There were times when I would try to sell Karpis on the things I was
learning through Scientology. 'Kid', he would say, 'your mind is your
greatest friend, yet it can be your worst enemy. Don't get it more fucked
up than the world has already made it.'"
-- MANSON IN HIS OWN WORDS, as told to Nuel Emmons p.69
[on Alan "Creepy" Karpis, an imprisoned hit-man]
++++++++++++++++++++++
One famous, in fact infamous person interested in Scientology
that they do not boast about, talk about, or probably even want
is Charles Manson, the convicted murderer of Sharon Tate and
her friends. The New York Times stated that Manson first got
interested in Scientology while he was incarcerated in the McNeil
Island Penitentiary in Washington (Scientology' has programs for
prisons). After his release, The Times reported, he went to
Los Angeles where he was said to have met local Scientologists
and attended several parties for movie stars, possibly the July
18 dedication of the celebrity center. Scientology literature
was also said to be found at the ranch when Manson and his family
were captured. But for reasons unknown, it is claimed that Manson
may have been made a "suppressive person" by the Scientologists,
and there have also been hints that he may have joined the Process,
the sex and satan group which originally broke away from Scientology,.
-- A PIECE OF BLUE SKY
++++++++++++++++++++++
KEY DEFENSIVE MATERIALS
The following is a list of VITAL materials that will help you
understand how Dianetics and Scientology according to their own
internal and secret policies tends to deal with their advesaries
in a conflict. Knowing it in advance you can save yourself a lot
of difficulty.
[...]
The following list of documents were siezed by the FBI on its
authorized search of Scientology's headquarters in LA and
Washington DC. They are all obtainable using the freedom of
Information act, request procedures. Complete sets have also
been sent to the three anti cult organizations mentioned near
the end of this document.
5.* Write up of May 1, 1974. Regarding Security and Theft of
Ma~erials. (How to for, breaking and entering procedures.)
6.* Write up December 2, 1974.
7. L.R.H. Aides Conference. November 2, 1969. Covert
Operations.
8.* Intelligence Specialist Training Routine. TR-L (Intel TR's,
How to lie effectively.)
9.* FBI Document #8592.
10.* Red Box Data Information Sheet (Contains information on how
to purge internal files of disinformation, non profit lobbying,
and any information which would show that Church of Scientology
motives were nonhumanitarian.)
11.* Operation Freakout. April 1 1976. (Church attempts to drive
insane, incapitate, or jail critic using 5.5. and Gestapo like
tactics.)
12. June 22, 1970. Compliance Report Regarding Charles Manson,
Bruce Davis. (Manson went a bit wild on Auditing.)
[...]
- Lawrence Wollersheim
FACTNET document
++++++++++++++++++++++
From: dennis....@support.com
Message-ID: <951025212...@support.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 21:21:40 -0700
[...]
OSA has a standard patter to answer the Manson allegations.
Trouble is, it's not true. Manson was a scieno. He took the
Comm Course at LA Org in 67, I believe it was. Before I got
there. I remember hearing something about it when the vetting
occurred.
++++++++++++++++++++++
From: anon-r...@utopia.hacktic.nl (Anonymous)
Date: 30 Oct 1995 08:48:23 +0100
Message-ID: <472007$5...@utopia.hacktic.nl>
[...]
>nob...@flame.alias.net (Anonymous) wrote: [...]
>> In article <46ppt5$1...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, DWTripp <dwt...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I was on ASHO staff at the time. I did hold a tech post. My knowledge
>> >regarding GO actions in the wake of Manson's arrest came from my
>> >attendence at regular Friday night poker games where the presence of
>> >Henning Heldt, Martin Greenberg and other GO people was consistent. Yes,
>> >they did talk shop. The "claim" made at the time (I believe it was Martin)
>> >was that LA Org records had shown that Manson had possibly done a
>> >Communications Course and bought some books. No refernce was ever made
>> >regarding any purge of records and if such was done, it was likely
>> >initiated by LA Org Execs. Possibly even Erlich.
>>
>> This is bullshit. This is the GO trying to MINIMIZE Manson's
Not bullshit.
>> involvement. Using the word "possibly" is trying to avoid an outright
>> lie (Manson wasn't involved) to a fellow Scientologist.
>>
>> You all have the WRONG slant on this. I'm not saying Charles Manson
^^^ ^^^^^^^
Correction, mostly all wrong. Too much speculation, too few facts.
Charles Manson was a Scientologist.
"Possibly" is correct re Comm Course at LA Day.
In addition to auditing when he was in jail,
Charles Manson was "being handled" as a
"clandestine op" off org lines. (If you don't know
what this means, ask Dennis - or Henning or
Moxon or McShane or DM if you can.)
When the news of the murders reached MSH
and LRH on the ship they immediately sent an
encoded telex to D/G US to cancel the msn and
vet all records. A GO "assessment" was done
to evaluate the risk to LRH (not Scn) if info re
the Manson connection was discovered.
(ONLY Henning, the ops and the missionaire
should have known and certainly this would
NOT have been poker party chat.) Years
later, when Manson's name came up again
LRH ordered another "assessment" done.
This time the order travelled thru the CMO
and was seen to by none other than ________ .
Be ye able to fill in the blank, Andy, boy?
Tak' th' high road and ask aboot yoor
own hoose, me laddy.
Rocks be a' slammin'
Old Timer
===============================================
Now the document you posted can add to the collection of Manson info.
Thanks! -Mike
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> GS-C Comm
> GS-G 22 June 70
> D/G Intell U.S.
>
> Dear Mary Sue, COMPLIANCE REPORT
>
> RE: MANSON, BRUCE DAVIS
>
> There have been numerous new developments on this case
> and they are as follows.
>
> An individual by the name of Steve Grogen appeared on our
> lines (PM). I received word that he had made statements that he
> was a member of Mansons family and therefore started some intell.
> action, which at first consisted of talking to the girls he had
> been in contact with. By the time I had finished talking to them
> Grogen had been put away in jail for car theft. In spite of
> numerous efforts on our part it was impossible to get together
> with him. I had the girl he seemed to be most in comm with, journey
> out to the valley on four different occasions to talk to him
> and in spite of our best efforts he was never made available. He
> was either "in court" or the jail was undergoing extensive re-
> decoration. Of course we did not want it known that a member of
> The Church was trying to see him. At the same time this was going
> on we received word that two members of the Manson Family "squeeky
> Frome" and "Sandy Goode" were staying at the Viking Motel on 3rd
> and Alverado which is in close proximity to the org. We made no
> efforts to contactthem.
>
> On 18 June 80 the following report was received by me.
> Report of interview with Raul Morales, Re: Charles Manson.
> According to Raul: Raul arrived in prison on McNeil Island,
> Washington in 1962 and became a cell mate of Lafayette Raimer
> allegedly a trained Scientology auditor (about Level I in
> Raul's estimation) and was introduced to Scientology at that
> time. Raimer was auditing in prison at that time and in one
> 10 man cell had managed to gather a group of about 7, all in
> Scientology. Charles Manson entered later and studied, did TRO
> etc. along with his cell-mates and received approximately 150
> hours of auditing from Raimer. Processes used were CCH's,
> Help processes (Who have you helped-Who have you not helped) and
> other Dichotomy processes (Rauls terms, such as What can you
> confront, what would you rather not confront), Havingness (Such
> as "What can you have?" "Look around and find something you can
> have. Look around and find something you're not in." Rainer kept recor
> records of his auditing. Manson got super-energetic & flipped
> out when he'd been audited and would, for a time, talk about
> nothing but Scientology to the extent that people avoided his
> company. After a while, however, Manson was screaming to get away
> from his auditor (in Raul's opinion, he'd been severely over-run
> or something). He eventually managed to get put in solitary confi-
> nement to get away from his auditor. Eventually prison officials
> got suspicious of the groups strange activities and broke up the
> group. Subsequently, Raul was released from the prison in 1965.
> Raimer's wife was in training here at the L.A. Org in 1965-66; she
> had disconnected from Raimer. Raul just found out yesterday that
> another friend, Marvin White, later sent Manson books (after the
> Scientology group was broken up) on hypnotism and black magic,
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> --
> Jeff Lee (KoX/SP5/INTJ) shi...@gate.net SCA:Lord Godfrey de Shipbrook
> << Geek Code (v3.1) & PGP public key at http://www.gate.net/~shipbrk/ >>
> << What kind of church needs an espionage and intelligence branch? >>
> << Read http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/j/berlin.html to find out. >>
Message 3 in thread
From: Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine (da...@xemu.demon.co.uk)
Subject: Re: Xenu: Guardian's Office - Re: Manson, Bruce Davies
View this article only
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology, alt.religion.scientology.xenu
Date: 1996/06/06
In article <lepton-0506...@lepton.dialup.access.net>, Mike
O'Connor <lep...@panix.com> writes
> Upon being arrested in 1961, "Manson gave as his claimed
> religion `Scientologist,' stating that he `has never
> settled upon a religious formula for his beliefs and is
> presently seeking an answer to his question in the new
> mental health cult known as Scientology.' "Scientology, an
> outgrowth of science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard's
> Dianetics, was just coming into vogue at this time.
> Manson's teacher, i.e. `auditor', was another convice,
> Lanier Rayner. Manson would later claim that while in
> prison he achieved Scientology's highest level,
> `beta-clear'...
\\\\
theta-clear
Milne said no such title existed. This is a lie.
Around the time of History of Man there was a distinction
between:
(1) A FULLY CLEARED THETAN, cleared of all possible
incidents/engrams and restored to godlike powers,
more recently called Operating Thetan; and
(2)[a] THETA-CLEAR means cleared of enough past life
incidents on the thetaline to begin to understand
the nature of the "bank" -- it conveys some
out of body powers, or
[b] MEST-CLEAR means cleared of pastlife incidents
on the GEline i.e. as a clam, sloth, bulbous seaweed
etcetera -- it conveys freedom from physical illness, or
[c] DIANETIC-CLEAR, same as [b] but attained more slowly
on present life (dianetic) processes only.
All of (2) above are now simply know as Clear and, if
the chump joined after 1970, the type of "clear" they
were made into will always be Theta-Clear; hence a
separate name was no longer needed & it simply became "clear."
HTH.
--Regards, Woof Woof, Glug Glug--
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"Scientologeze" used by Manson's girls while testifying in court. I read about
the two young Scientologists who were murdered long before the Tate murders
. I find it interesting that many of the "True Believers" of LRH indoctrination
just can't bring themselves to believe all this data
that was found during the raid.
Many on ARS are pleased that the the files taken by the FBI in l977 are brought
to our attention -
Thanks to Buglosi for documenting the murders so well and for his observations
at that time.
Ida Camburn
It is a terrible hypocrisy for them to say we hurt people. Anyone who has
"suffered" at our hands is still free, well and able to complain. -- L. Ron
Hubbard, founder of Scientology
XXXXXXX
>Subject: 1977 Raid Doc-Church Guardian's Office-"Re:Manson, Bruce Davis"
>From: "Feisty" su...@skytoday.com
>Date: 04/30/2003 11:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <ui3sa.1263$mD5.4...@dca1-nnrp1.news.algx.net>