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Jens Tingleff

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Jun 17, 2009, 2:55:17 AM6/17/09
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Bonjour!

- From http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/2009/06/paris-trial-vii.html


"But proceedings in the second week of the trial of six Scientologists and
two Scientology organisations in France opened with a complaint from the
lawyers of defendant Sabine Jacquart.

Jacquart had, they said, been subject to harassment outside the court, which
they described as an unacceptable attempt at intimidation.

The President of the Court, Judge Sophie-H�l�ne Ch�teau, while regretting
any such incident, made it clear that every precaution had been taken to
ensure that the trial took place in secure conditions.

The lawyers on all sides called for calm, though the defence side did note
that while things might be proceeding properly in court, the atmosphere
outside the court was far from serene."

Yeah, like the poor clams being provoked to react violently... by critics
merely being present and having conversations with third parties. That's
going to go down well, in court, that is - NOT!

And finally:

"[1] At some point during discussion of the letter ? or it may have been in
the letter itself ? there appeared to be a suggestion that the court itself
might not be impartial. Judge Ch�teau described any such insinuation
as ?extremely unpleasant?."

A suggestion? Tsk - perish the thought!

Is she thinking of statements like these?

"On Tuesday, the lawyers for the Paris Scientologists on trial for organized
fraud criticized the "symbolic trial" worthy of "the Inquisition" which was
brought against their association and condemned the "death penalty"
requested by the public prosecutor."

http://www.liberation.fr/societe/0101574462-scientologie-un-proces-digne-de-l-inquisition

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http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/french-trial-media-46255/32/#post900499

I'm not sure French OSA hired the right lawyers there - David Miscavige just
can't trust anyone in OSA France to do it right.

Best regards

Jens
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Eldon

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Jun 17, 2009, 3:28:51 AM6/17/09
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On Jun 17, 8:55 am, Jens Tingleff <jenst...@tingleff.org> wrote:
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>
> Bonjour!
>
> - Fromhttp://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/2009/06/paris-trial-vii.html

>
> "But proceedings in the second week of the trial of six Scientologists and
> two Scientology organisations in France opened with a complaint from the
> lawyers of defendant Sabine Jacquart.
>
> Jacquart had, they said, been subject to harassment outside the court, which
> they described as an unacceptable attempt at intimidation.
>
> The President of the Court, Judge Sophie-Hélène Château, while regretting

> any such incident, made it clear that every precaution had been taken to
> ensure that the trial took place in secure conditions.
>
> The lawyers on all sides called for calm, though the defence side did note
> that while things might be proceeding properly in court, the atmosphere
> outside the court was far from serene."
>
> Yeah, like the poor clams being provoked to react violently... by critics
> merely being present and having conversations with third parties. That's
> going to go down well, in court, that is - NOT!
>
> And finally:
>
> "[1] At some point during discussion of the letter ? or it may have been in
> the letter itself ? there appeared to be a suggestion that the court itself
> might not be impartial. Judge Château described any such insinuation

> as ?extremely unpleasant?."
>
> A suggestion? Tsk - perish the thought!
>
> Is she thinking of statements like these?
>
> "On Tuesday, the lawyers for the Paris Scientologists on trial for organized
> fraud criticized the "symbolic trial" worthy of "the Inquisition" which was
> brought against their association and condemned the "death penalty"
> requested by the public prosecutor."
>
> http://www.liberation.fr/societe/0101574462-scientologie-un-proces-di...
>
> translated onhttp://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/french-trial-media-46255/32/#...

>
> I'm not sure French OSA hired the right lawyers there - David Miscavige just
> can't trust anyone in OSA France to do it right.

I love how they keep saying the court has no jurisdiction over
"religious beliefs," presumably even if they cause criminal acts. Of
course, to be fair, there wasn't much in this case that the defense
lawyers could get right, was there?


>
> Best regards
>
>         Jens
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>     Key ID 0x09723C12, jenst...@tingleff.org

xenufrance

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Jun 17, 2009, 3:50:38 AM6/17/09
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"Eldon" <Eldo...@aol.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
797c5bf8-fe5e-4040...@t21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...

On Jun 17, 8:55 am, Jens Tingleff <jenst...@tingleff.org> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Bonjour!
>
> - Fromhttp://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/2009/06/paris-trial-vii.html
>
> "But proceedings in the second week of the trial of six Scientologists and
> two Scientology organisations in France opened with a complaint from the
> lawyers of defendant Sabine Jacquart.
>
> Jacquart had, they said, been subject to harassment outside the court,
> which
> they described as an unacceptable attempt at intimidation.
>
> The President of the Court, Judge Sophie-H�l�ne Ch�teau, while regretting

> any such incident, made it clear that every precaution had been taken to
> ensure that the trial took place in secure conditions.
>
> The lawyers on all sides called for calm, though the defence side did note
> that while things might be proceeding properly in court, the atmosphere
> outside the court was far from serene."
>
> Yeah, like the poor clams being provoked to react violently... by critics
> merely being present and having conversations with third parties. That's
> going to go down well, in court, that is - NOT!
>
> And finally:
>
> "[1] At some point during discussion of the letter ? or it may have been
> in
> the letter itself ? there appeared to be a suggestion that the court
> itself
> might not be impartial. Judge Ch�teau described any such insinuation

> as ?extremely unpleasant?."
>
> A suggestion? Tsk - perish the thought!
>
> Is she thinking of statements like these?
>
> "On Tuesday, the lawyers for the Paris Scientologists on trial for
> organized
> fraud criticized the "symbolic trial" worthy of "the Inquisition" which
> was
> brought against their association and condemned the "death penalty"
> requested by the public prosecutor."
>
> http://www.liberation.fr/societe/0101574462-scientologie-un-proces-di...
>
> translated
> onhttp://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/french-trial-media-46255/32/#...
>
> I'm not sure French OSA hired the right lawyers there - David Miscavige
> just
> can't trust anyone in OSA France to do it right.

I love how they keep saying the court has no jurisdiction over
"religious beliefs," presumably even if they cause criminal acts. Of
course, to be fair, there wasn't much in this case that the defense
lawyers could get right, was there?

Reminds me of a another complaint of another cult against M Roulet, who was
then president of the MIVILUDES. The attorneys for that cult
(Tradition-Famille-Propri�t�, a right wing extremist "christian" cult
defending property of big owners in Brasil) had called an attorney of le
"Droit Canon", which is the inside law of the Roman Catholic Church.
Imagine, that specialist trying to pass on the Droit Canon in french laicist
courts...

r


Eldon

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Jun 17, 2009, 6:28:07 AM6/17/09
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On Jun 17, 8:55 am, Jens Tingleff <jenst...@tingleff.org> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Bonjour!
>
> - Fromhttp://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/2009/06/paris-trial-vii.html

>
> "But proceedings in the second week of the trial of six Scientologists and
> two Scientology organisations in France opened with a complaint from the
> lawyers of defendant Sabine Jacquart.
>
> Jacquart had, they said, been subject to harassment outside the court, which
> they described as an unacceptable attempt at intimidation.
>
> The President of the Court, Judge Sophie-Hélène Château, while regretting

> any such incident, made it clear that every precaution had been taken to
> ensure that the trial took place in secure conditions.
>
> The lawyers on all sides called for calm, though the defence side did note
> that while things might be proceeding properly in court, the atmosphere
> outside the court was far from serene."

WTF are they talking about? Nono's "provocation" of some poor clam who
lost control and assaulted le Clown just by seeing him there in the
lobby? Suppressives talking to the news media outside the courtroom?
People demonstrating outside the front door of the Palais de Justice?
I haven't been over there, but I sort of doubt that any illegal
enturbulation has gone on. Maybe some Xenu fliers were passed out or
something like that?

BAWWWW!


>
> Yeah, like the poor clams being provoked to react violently... by critics
> merely being present and having conversations with third parties. That's
> going to go down well, in court, that is - NOT!
>
> And finally:
>
> "[1] At some point during discussion of the letter ? or it may have been in
> the letter itself ? there appeared to be a suggestion that the court itself

> might not be impartial. Judge Château described any such insinuation


> as ?extremely unpleasant?."
>
> A suggestion? Tsk - perish the thought!
>
> Is she thinking of statements like these?
>
> "On Tuesday, the lawyers for the Paris Scientologists on trial for organized
> fraud criticized the "symbolic trial" worthy of "the Inquisition" which was
> brought against their association and condemned the "death penalty"
> requested by the public prosecutor."
>

> http://www.liberation.fr/societe/0101574462-scientologie-un-proces-di...
>
> translated onhttp://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/french-trial-media-46255/32/#...


>
> I'm not sure French OSA hired the right lawyers there - David Miscavige just
> can't trust anyone in OSA France to do it right.
>
> Best regards
>
>         Jens
> - --

>     Key ID 0x09723C12, jenst...@tingleff.org

Roger Larsson

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Jun 17, 2009, 7:57:34 AM6/17/09
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When pets finds out scientology is working they goes mad seeking to
destroy its faultless reputation with lies.

Ron Hubbard never lied to scientologists in purpose to cover up his
own ass,,,It's upset pets lying just because scientology works.

Pets are not just invented enemies with the function to cover up Ron
Hubbards and Scientology's ass, are they.

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