Training Routine Zero (TR 0) Confront
Warrior
This post is for those who argued with me when I posted about TR 0
Confront. I stated that TR 0 Confront was to be done blinklessly. I
recall that Jesse Prince and Dennis Erlich concurred with me insofar
that Hubbard required TR 0 Confront to be done for 2 hours without
blinking. This was required for a "pass" at the Austin Organization
in the '70s when I did the Communications (HAS) Course there.
From the Flag OODs published onboard the Apollo on 16 May 1971,
page 2:
=== begin quote ===
TRs
TRs the hard way are producing the most fabulous results.
This is the way they will now be done on all FEBCs.
The 0-IV TRs, and the 6-9 TRs done the total EP way are NOW
REQUIRED TO BE PASSED BEFORE ADMIN TRs ARE BEGUN.
Administrators need harder TRs even than Auditors! And
Auditor TRs are now upgraded beyond belief.
Time Clock Zero begins it. A blink, a redness of the eye, a
twitch, a cough, a sigh, a body shift, etc. causes the coach to
start the clock again until a total 2 hour total zero is achieved.
Patty cake TRs were the death of auditing quality and admin
effectiveness.
Some lovely wins are being gotten with this current Pgm.
LRH, COMMODORE
15 May 1971
=== end quote ===
Warrior - Sunshine disinfects
"Scientology: it's about deception."
http://warrior.xenu.ca
Skipper
I now call it "Bullshit."
In article <142284614.000...@drn.newsguy.com>, Warrior
roger gonnet
"Warrior" <war...@xenu.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:
142284614.000...@drn.newsguy.com...
>
> This post is for those who argued with me when I posted about TR 0
> Confront. I stated that TR 0 Confront was to be done blinklessly. I
> recall that Jesse Prince and Dennis Erlich concurred with me insofar
> that Hubbard required TR 0 Confront to be done for 2 hours without
> blinking. This was required for a "pass" at the Austin Organization
> in the '70s when I did the Communications (HAS) Course there.
It's so indeed, at least in TRs the hardway, re-titled TRs PRO. 2 hours without
a blink. Perfectly ridicule purpose, since blinking from time to time is a body
necessity... to be opposed with some bad-confrontation things indeed (excessive
blinking, looking elsewhere or so).
ladayla
>
>
>"Warrior" <war...@xenu.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:
>142284614.000...@drn.newsguy.com...
>>
>> This post is for those who argued with me when I posted about TR 0
>> Confront. I stated that TR 0 Confront was to be done blinklessly. I
>> recall that Jesse Prince and Dennis Erlich concurred with me insofar
>> that Hubbard required TR 0 Confront to be done for 2 hours without
>> blinking. This was required for a "pass" at the Austin Organization
>> in the '70s when I did the Communications (HAS) Course there.
When I did 'em all on the Flagship in 1971, it was 'no blink, no swallow'.
There was a really pitiful scene in the Hold of the ship. It was filled with
staff who could not do the Hard TRs. They were down in this dungeonlike hole
crying. Hopeless. Trapped. Many had either fallen asleep or were unconscious.
I got a dispatch from LRH asking me to get the bug off the TRs course.( I had
done the full battery of hard TRs without a flunk. It was seen as an amazing
accomplishment. My necessity level to get off that hellish ship was my
motivation for my getting 'em done. Took me 2 full days and into 2 nights
without a blink or swallow. Insanity manifest.) Anyways, I got all those guys
that were in the hold onto my emeter and each and every one of them read on
'Overrun'. It's a good thing there was no camera in that room. I would'a used
voodoo to get those guys outta there.
la
realpch
>
> In article <437d71b6$0$21023$636a...@news.free.fr>, roger gonnet says...
> >
> >
> >"Warrior" <war...@xenu.ca> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >142284614.000...@drn.newsguy.com...
> >>
> >> This post is for those who argued with me when I posted about TR 0
> >> Confront. I stated that TR 0 Confront was to be done blinklessly. I
> >> recall that Jesse Prince and Dennis Erlich concurred with me insofar
> >> that Hubbard required TR 0 Confront to be done for 2 hours without
> >> blinking. This was required for a "pass" at the Austin Organization
> >> in the '70s when I did the Communications (HAS) Course there.
>
> When I did 'em all on the Flagship in 1971, it was 'no blink, no swallow'.
> There was a really pitiful scene in the Hold of the ship. It was filled with
> staff who could not do the Hard TRs. They were down in this dungeonlike hole
> crying. Hopeless. Trapped. Many had either fallen asleep or were unconscious.
> I got a dispatch from LRH asking me to get the bug off the TRs course.( I had
> done the full battery of hard TRs without a flunk. It was seen as an amazing
> accomplishment. My necessity level to get off that hellish ship was my
> motivation for my getting 'em done. Took me 2 full days and into 2 nights
> without a blink or swallow. Insanity manifest.) Anyways, I got all those guys
> that were in the hold onto my emeter and each and every one of them read on
> 'Overrun'. It's a good thing there was no camera in that room. I would'a used
> voodoo to get those guys outta there.
>
> la
I've always wondered about this. I don't think that I could ever have
sat without blinking, swallowing for two hours. I don't really
understand how anybody else could do it either.
Peach
Larry T.
news:437E9242...@aol.com...
But you did, or you would not have made to where you did on the Grade Chart.
--
Larry
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/
(SNIP)
Zinj
says...
<snip>
> When I did 'em all on the Flagship in 1971, it was 'no blink, no swallow'.
> There was a really pitiful scene in the Hold of the ship. It was filled with
> staff who could not do the Hard TRs. They were down in this dungeonlike hole
> crying. Hopeless. Trapped. Many had either fallen asleep or were unconscious.
> I got a dispatch from LRH asking me to get the bug off the TRs course.( I had
> done the full battery of hard TRs without a flunk. It was seen as an amazing
> accomplishment. My necessity level to get off that hellish ship was my
> motivation for my getting 'em done. Took me 2 full days and into 2 nights
> without a blink or swallow. Insanity manifest.) Anyways, I got all those guys
> that were in the hold onto my emeter and each and every one of them read on
> 'Overrun'. It's a good thing there was no camera in that room. I would'a used
> voodoo to get those guys outta there.
>
> la
Scientology - the Spiritual Technology that always reads 'Overrun'
Zinj
--
Villains! I say to you now! Knock off all that Evil!
- The Tick
Zinj
> "realpch" <rea...@aol.com> wrote in message
<snip>
> > I've always wondered about this. I don't think that I could ever have
> > sat without blinking, swallowing for two hours. I don't really
> > understand how anybody else could do it either.
> >
> > Peach
>
>
> But you did, or you would not have made to where you did on the Grade Chart.
Peach was never a Scientologist Larry. And you know that.
realpch
Yeah, he was paying me back for a comment I made last week.
Peach
Ball of Fluff
"Warrior" <war...@xenu.ca> wrote in message
news:142284614.000...@drn.newsguy.com...
>
> This post is for those who argued with me when I posted about TR 0
> Confront. I stated that TR 0 Confront was to be done blinklessly. I
> recall that Jesse Prince and Dennis Erlich concurred with me insofar
> that Hubbard required TR 0 Confront to be done for 2 hours without
> blinking. This was required for a "pass" at the Austin Organization
> in the '70s when I did the Communications (HAS) Course there.
They were doing it blinklessly for a while.
Then they stopped.
C
Larry T.
Peach:
Pardon the intrusion but..........
Not too long ago you said "Oh Larry, that is the nicest thing you ever said
to me, thank you".
And now all of a sudden people are paying you back for comments you have
made?
You sound extra alert or something.
--
Larry
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/
realpch
Oh really? Did you miss the post where I called you a jerk?
Peach
Ball of Fluff
Goddamn it, Peach, you really blew it this time.
Yep. You didn't call him an exponential fifty million times over jerk, nut
and troll.
Dang you and your ad hominem stuffies!
You villainess!
C
Lisa Ruby
>When I did 'em all on the Flagship in 1971, it was 'no blink, no swallow'.
>There was a really pitiful scene in the Hold of the ship. It was filled with
>staff who could not do the Hard TRs.
What was their rationale for not letting you swallow as well as not
blink?
Thanks,
Lisa Ruby
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net
Lisa Ruby
How could anyone accomplish not blinking for
2 hours? Eyes could dry out and be harmed...How
did Scientologists manage to do this?
Lisa Ruby
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net
realpch
Do I have to behave ALL of the time? When I misbehave I find I get
really bashed by people who do it all the time. Why the heck is that?
; )
Peach
Larry T.
You must have had a real unique reason.
--
Larry
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/
realpch
<snip>
> >> Pardon the intrusion but..........
> >>
> >> Not too long ago you said "Oh Larry, that is the nicest thing you ever
> >> said
> >> to me, thank you".
> >>
> >> And now all of a sudden people are paying you back for comments you have
> >> made?
> >>
> >> You sound extra alert or something.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Larry
> >>
> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/
> >
> > Oh really? Did you miss the post where I called you a jerk?
> >
> > Peach
>
> You must have had a real unique reason.
>
> --
> Larry
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/
Yes, it was a response from the heart to a post you made in one of the
Michael Pattinson threads. You can look it up if you like.
Peach
Zinj
Commis...@groupmail.com says...
> Warrior,
>
> How could anyone accomplish not blinking for
> 2 hours? Eyes could dry out and be harmed...How
> did Scientologists manage to do this?
The wonders of hypnotism, social control and pay by the hour.
barb
I was the Queen of Staring Contests back in grade school math class.
:)
But those contests didn't last no two hours. I'd think your corneas
would dry out. It can't be good for your eyes!
--
--barb
Chaplain,ARSCC
xenu...@netscape.net
"Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release
form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance."
This assistance might involve holding you against your
will for an indefinite period, isolating you from
friends and family, and denying you access to
appropriate medical care. You will of course be billed
for this treatment - assuming you survive it. If not,
the release form absolves your caretakers of all
responsibility for your suffering and death.
Welcome to the Church of Scientology."
--Dr. Dave Touretzky
Peter Alexander
Mark Thorson
>
> Do I have to behave ALL of the time? When I misbehave I find I get
> really bashed by people who do it all the time. Why the heck is that?
> ; )
> Peach
Because you aren't very good at it.
These people are experts, having been
trained by the best in the business!
barb
Uh...we don't like the competition? ; )
Warrior
"A while" is a vague period of time. And your use of "they" is
unclear. Whom are you referring to, and for how long a period
of time does "a while" refer to? When and where do you contend
these unspecified persons stopped doing them the "hard way"?
In my experience, "Hard TRs" were done for years, beginning in
1971, and continuing through at least 1978. They were done
that way both at ASHO and the Austin Org, as well as on the
Flagship Apollo.
Ball of Fluff
> In article <437e...@news2.lightlink.com>, Ball of Fluff says...
>>
>>
>>"Warrior" <war...@xenu.ca> wrote in message
>>news:142284614.000...@drn.newsguy.com...
>>>
>>> This post is for those who argued with me when I posted about TR 0
>>> Confront. I stated that TR 0 Confront was to be done blinklessly. I
>>> recall that Jesse Prince and Dennis Erlich concurred with me insofar
>>> that Hubbard required TR 0 Confront to be done for 2 hours without
>>> blinking. This was required for a "pass" at the Austin Organization
>>> in the '70s when I did the Communications (HAS) Course there.
>>
>>They were doing it blinklessly for a while.
>>
>>Then they stopped.
>>
>>C
>
> "A while" is a vague period of time.
Well, by the time I got in, they (cofS) weren't doing it any longer. I think
I ever once saw a reference saying not to do it.
I did meet one lady in CofS who said she'd had to do it. She was older than
I and had been in longer.
>And your use of "they" is
> unclear. Whom are you referring to, and for how long a period
> of time does "a while" refer to? When and where do you contend
> these unspecified persons stopped doing them the "hard way"?
>
> In my experience, "Hard TRs" were done for years, beginning in
> 1971, and continuing through at least 1978. They were done
> that way both at ASHO and the Austin Org, as well as on the
> Flagship Apollo.
Hard TRs doesn't automatically mean blinkless. My understanding is that they
cut out the blinkless bullshit sometime in the early 70s.
I know people who course supv'd and were on course in the mid 70s and TR0,
by then, was not blinkless.
C
realpch
I guess I need to practice more.
; )
Peach
torocanyon
to confronting, it was not ok. thats it
Warrior
says...
>
>blinking was ok, when a coach thought you were blinking as an escape
>to confronting, it was not ok. thats it
I was made to do TR 0 Confront the "hard way", according to LRH's
1971 order issued in May of 1971.
When I blinked I was "given a flunk" and made to start again until
I could do TR 0 Confront for 2 hours without blinking. It was very
painful for a long time (up until a trance state was induced).
From the Flag OODs published onboard the Apollo on 16 May 1971,
page 2:
=== begin quote ===
TRs
TRs the hard way are producing the most fabulous results.
This is the way they will now be done on all FEBCs.
The 0-IV TRs, and the 6-9 TRs done the total EP way are NOW
REQUIRED TO BE PASSED BEFORE ADMIN TRs ARE BEGUN.
Administrators need harder TRs even than Auditors! And
Auditor TRs are now upgraded beyond belief.
Time Clock Zero begins it. A blink, a redness of the eye, a
twitch, a cough, a sigh, a body shift, etc. causes the coach to
start the clock again until a total 2 hour total zero is achieved.
Patty cake TRs were the death of auditing quality and admin
effectiveness.
Some lovely wins are being gotten with this current Pgm.
LRH, COMMODORE
15 May 1971
=== end quote ===
torocanyon
Warrior
>>> Warrior wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This post is for those who argued with me when I posted about TR 0
>>>> Confront. I stated that TR 0 Confront was to be done blinklessly. I
>>>> recall that Jesse Prince and Dennis Erlich concurred with me insofar
>>>> that Hubbard required TR 0 Confront to be done for 2 hours without
>>>> blinking. This was required for a "pass" at the Austin Organization
>>>> in the '70s when I did the Communications (HAS) Course there.
>> In article <437e...@news2.lightlink.com>, Ball of Fluff says:
>>>
>>>They were doing it blinklessly for a while.
>>>
>>>Then they stopped.
>>>
>>>C
> In <142432010.000...@drn.newsguy.com>
> Warrior wrote:
>>
>> "A while" is a vague period of time.
In article <437f9280$1...@news2.lightlink.com>, Ball of Fluff says:
>
>Well, by the time I got in, they (cofS) weren't doing it any longer.
>I think I ever [sic] once saw a reference saying not to do it.
I'd like to know the reference you think you saw, if you know
or can find it.
>I did meet one lady in CofS who said she'd had to do it. She was
>older than I and had been in longer.
I can name dozens of individuals who had to do blinkless TR 0
Confront, just like Hubbard ordered in his 15 May 1971 order.
>> And your use of "they" is unclear. Whom are you referring to, and
>> for how long a period of time does "a while" refer to? When and
>> where do you contend these unspecified persons stopped doing
>> them the "hard way"?
You didn't answer. All you did is reassert your vague statements.
>> In my experience, "Hard TRs" were done for years, beginning in
>> 1971, and continuing through at least 1978. They were done
>> that way both at ASHO and the Austin Org, as well as on the
>> Flagship Apollo.
>Hard TRs doesn't automatically mean blinkless. My understanding
>is that they cut out the blinkless bullshit sometime in the early 70s.
What reference, bulletin, order, policy, etc. is this based upon?
Doing TR 0 Confront will induce a trance state if done long enough.
>I know people who course supv'd and were on course in the mid
>70s and TR0, by then, was not blinkless.
>
>C
In 1974 and 1975 at the Austin Org when I did the TRs as part of
the Hubbard Communication Course, TR 0 Confront was done
blinklessly or the student did not "pass". After mid-October of
1975 I can't say what was done at the Austin Org since I had
moved to Los Angeles and gone on staff at ASHO Day. Here's
the basis on which I say Hard TRs are done blinklessly. Note that
Hubbard says "TRs the hard way ...". Further, he says, "A blink, a
redness of the eye, a twitch, a cough, a sigh, a body shift, etc.
causes the coach to start the clock again until a total 2 hour total
zero is achieved."
Here's my reference from the Flag OODs published onboard the
Apollo on 16 May 1971, page 2:
=== begin quote ===
TRs
TRs the hard way are producing the most fabulous results.
This is the way they will now be done on all FEBCs.
The 0-IV TRs, and the 6-9 TRs done the total EP way are NOW
REQUIRED TO BE PASSED BEFORE ADMIN TRs ARE BEGUN.
Administrators need harder TRs even than Auditors! And
Auditor TRs are now upgraded beyond belief.
Time Clock Zero begins it. A blink, a redness of the eye, a
twitch, a cough, a sigh, a body shift, etc. causes the coach to
start the clock again until a total 2 hour total zero is achieved.
Patty cake TRs were the death of auditing quality and admin
effectiveness.
Some lovely wins are being gotten with this current Pgm.
LRH, COMMODORE
15 May 1971
=== end quote ===
I believe you when you say that TRs were done blinklessly since
Scientology is a "squirrel" outfit anyway, and since the so-called
"tech" in general has been changed so many times. I'd just like
to know if you cite a Hubbard reference regarding Hard TRs not
being done blinklessly?
Warrior
Lisa Ruby says...
>
>Warrior,
>
>How could anyone accomplish not blinking for 2 hours? Eyes could dry
>out and be harmed...How did Scientologists manage to do this?
TR 0 Confront is a hypnotic trance induction technique. Ask any
trained hypnotherapist.
Lisa Ruby
>TR 0 Confront is a hypnotic trance induction technique. Ask any
>trained hypnotherapist.
There are other ways to induce trance besides torture, which
not being allowed to blink for two hours surely is. I feel so bad
for those who have been subjected to this and I'm glad this is
being exposed.
Lisa Ruby
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net
barb
Here, Peach...
0 0
Ball of Fluff
"torocanyon" <kcass...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132464667.9...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> blinking was ok, when a coach thought you were blinking as an escape
> to confronting, it was not ok. thats it
Right. But the point is that for a while there was this arbitrary where the
person had to go for 2 hours final pass blinkless on TR0. That one woman I
used to know who was at AOLA in the 60s told me about it.
C
Skipper
<getof...@fluffentology.com> wrote:
I did that. Giant pain in the butt.
Value to my life?
Zero.
Eldonbraun
or so) repudiated it and said blinking was OK if it wasn't "robotic
blinking." Or something of that sort. He also said he was
"misinterpreted," or that someone had published it without his
knowledge.
People were always sneaking in bits of out tech in LRH bulletins around
that time. Maybe his body thetans controlling his fingers on the Telex
machine.
Larry T.
news:4380...@news2.lightlink.com...
(SNIP)
Barb:
The really nice thing about you and a few other people here, is that you
post by your real name. I just can't stand this shit that 50 new people crop
up in the group each day all knowing nothing about Scientology and
expounding upon things like "exploits on the Apollo".
That is why some people resent when others communicate well with each other
here.
Friendship is another one, she posts the most 100% critical things and then
in support of them says "I would rather remain anonmymous for certain
reasons".
WOW!
--
Larry
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/
Warrior
>>> Warrior wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This post is for those who argued with me when I posted about TR 0
>>>> Confront. I stated that TR 0 Confront was to be done blinklessly. I
>>>> recall that Jesse Prince and Dennis Erlich concurred with me insofar
>>>> that Hubbard required TR 0 Confront to be done for 2 hours without
>>>> blinking. This was required for a "pass" at the Austin Organization
>>>> in the '70s when I did the Communications (HAS) Course there.
>> In article <437e...@news2.lightlink.com>, Ball of Fluff says:
>>>
>>>They were doing it blinklessly for a while.
>>>
>>>Then they stopped.
>>>
>>>C
> In <142432010.000...@drn.newsguy.com>
> Warrior wrote:
>>
>> "A while" is a vague period of time.
In article <437f9280$1...@news2.lightlink.com>, Ball of Fluff says:
>
>Well, by the time I got in, they (cofS) weren't doing it any longer.
>I think I ever [sic] once saw a reference saying not to do it.
I'd like to know the reference you think you saw, if you know
or can find it.
>I did meet one lady in CofS who said she'd had to do it. She was
>older than I and had been in longer.
I can name dozens of individuals who had to do blinkless TR 0
Confront, just like Hubbard ordered in his 15 May 1971 order.
>> And your use of "they" is unclear. Whom are you referring to, and
>> for how long a period of time does "a while" refer to? When and
>> where do you contend these unspecified persons stopped doing
>> them the "hard way"?
You didn't answer. All you did is reassert your vague statements.
>> In my experience, "Hard TRs" were done for years, beginning in
>> 1971, and continuing through at least 1978. They were done
>> that way both at ASHO and the Austin Org, as well as on the
>> Flagship Apollo.
>Hard TRs doesn't automatically mean blinkless. My understanding
>is that they cut out the blinkless bullshit sometime in the early 70s.
What reference, bulletin, order, policy, etc. is this based upon?
Doing TR 0 Confront will induce a trance state if done long enough.
>I know people who course supv'd and were on course in the mid
>70s and TR0, by then, was not blinkless.
>
>C
In 1974 and 1975 at the Austin Org when I did the TRs as part of
the Hubbard Communication Course, TR 0 Confront was done
blinklessly or the student did not "pass". After mid-October of
1975 I can't say what was done at the Austin Org since I had
moved to Los Angeles and gone on staff at ASHO Day. Here's
the basis on which I say Hard TRs are done blinklessly. Note that
Hubbard says "TRs the hard way ...". Further, he says, "A blink, a
redness of the eye, a twitch, a cough, a sigh, a body shift, etc.
causes the coach to start the clock again until a total 2 hour total
zero is achieved."
Here's my reference from the Flag OODs published onboard the
Apollo on 16 May 1971, page 2:
=== begin quote ===
TRs
TRs the hard way are producing the most fabulous results.
This is the way they will now be done on all FEBCs.
The 0-IV TRs, and the 6-9 TRs done the total EP way are NOW
REQUIRED TO BE PASSED BEFORE ADMIN TRs ARE BEGUN.
Administrators need harder TRs even than Auditors! And
Auditor TRs are now upgraded beyond belief.
Time Clock Zero begins it. A blink, a redness of the eye, a
twitch, a cough, a sigh, a body shift, etc. causes the coach to
start the clock again until a total 2 hour total zero is achieved.
Patty cake TRs were the death of auditing quality and admin
effectiveness.
Some lovely wins are being gotten with this current Pgm.
LRH, COMMODORE
15 May 1971
=== end quote ===
I believe you when you say that TRs were done blinklessly since
Scientology is a "squirrel" outfit anyway, and since the so-called
"tech" in general has been changed so many times. I'd just like
to know if you can cite a Hubbard reference regarding Hard TRs
not being done blinklessly?
Warrior
>>> Warrior wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This post is for those who argued with me when I posted about TR 0
>>>> Confront. I stated that TR 0 Confront was to be done blinklessly. I
>>>> recall that Jesse Prince and Dennis Erlich concurred with me insofar
>>>> that Hubbard required TR 0 Confront to be done for 2 hours without
>>>> blinking. This was required for a "pass" at the Austin Organization
>>>> in the '70s when I did the Communications (HAS) Course there.
>> In article <437e...@news2.lightlink.com>, Ball of Fluff says:
>>>
>>>They were doing it blinklessly for a while.
>>>
>>>Then they stopped.
>>>
>>>C
> In <142432010.000...@drn.newsguy.com>
> Warrior wrote:
>>
>> "A while" is a vague period of time.
In article <437f9280$1...@news2.lightlink.com>, Ball of Fluff says:
>
>Well, by the time I got in, they (cofS) weren't doing it any longer.
>I think I ever [sic] once saw a reference saying not to do it.
I'd like to know the reference you think you saw, if you know
or can find it.
>I did meet one lady in CofS who said she'd had to do it. She was
>older than I and had been in longer.
I can name dozens of individuals who had to do blinkless TR 0
Confront, just like Hubbard ordered in his 15 May 1971 order.
>> And your use of "they" is unclear. Whom are you referring to, and
>> for how long a period of time does "a while" refer to? When and
>> where do you contend these unspecified persons stopped doing
>> them the "hard way"?
You didn't answer. All you did is reassert your vague statements.
>> In my experience, "Hard TRs" were done for years, beginning in
>> 1971, and continuing through at least 1978. They were done
>> that way both at ASHO and the Austin Org, as well as on the
>> Flagship Apollo.
>Hard TRs doesn't automatically mean blinkless. My understanding
>is that they cut out the blinkless bullshit sometime in the early 70s.
What reference, bulletin, order, policy, etc. is this based upon?
Doing TR 0 Confront will induce a trance state if done long enough.
>I know people who course supv'd and were on course in the mid
>70s and TR0, by then, was not blinkless.
>
>C
In 1974 and 1975 at the Austin Org when I did the TRs as part of
=== begin quote ===
TRs
=== end quote ===
to know if you cite a Hubbard reference regarding Hard TRs not
being done blinklessly?
Android Cat
> I believe you when you say that TRs were done blinklessly since
> Scientology is a "squirrel" outfit anyway, and since the so-called
> "tech" in general has been changed so many times. I'd just like
> to know if you cite a Hubbard reference regarding Hard TRs not
> being done blinklessly?
Bah! If they really had their tech in, they'd do Very Hard TRs and do them
breathlessly!
--
Ron of that ilk.
Lermanet.com
Not only does warrior have a steel trap for details, he is correct, I
did them too... and yes it was in 1973-4 era.. but if it is not true
for you then it is not true, so move on, right?
Arnaldo Lerma
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake
If the Borg were to breed with the Ferengi you'd get Scientology!
29 November 1995 - Memorandum Opinion Judge Leonie Brinkema
"the Court is now convinced that the primary motivation of RTC in suing Lerma, DGS and The Post is to stifle criticism of Scientology in general and to harass its critics. "
The internet is the Liberty Tree
http://www.lermanet.com/faqs.html#psychiatry
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientology/altreligionscientology-killfile-settings.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/crowley-hubbard-666.htm
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/flint-suicides-in-scientology-040383.htm
both with IMAGES!!
"Scientologists believe that most human problems
can be traced to lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial
people massacred by their ruler, Xenu, over 75 million
years ago. These spirits attach themselves by "clusters"
to individuals in the contemporary world, causing
spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives
of their hosts"
[Judge Leonie Brinkema 4 Oct 96 Memorandum Opinion]
What do we get from getting people out of scientology?
We create an individual who has become a Houdini of
all mind traps.. folks who won't be fooled again.
People who can DE-program, People who can spring mental
traps..
We create, by freeing someone of scientology, a being
who has the ability to break the strongest slave chains
of all.
Those forged of lies. (c) Arnaldo Lerma
Lermanet.com
If only I could slap you with a trout...
I can see my next dead agent page update,
Lerma like's to slap people around with large trout.
Arnie Lerma
Hanging out on irc.undernet.org
#scientology-lies
No anons please
ladayla
hah!). Not only did we do TR0 the Hard Way, we did the entire TR course
the Hard Way. This meant, for me, two solid days or about 20 hours, of
no blink no swallow Trs. It was easy for me.I went straight through
without a flunk. Then Ron asked me to supervise the course and help him
get the 'bug' off the TR course. There were dozens of Staff down in the
lower hold of the ship who had given up, gone into apathy, gone into
unconsciousness, crying, hopeless, because they couldn't pass the Hard
TRs. I gottem all thru. I put 'em one by one on my meter and indicated
that they had been overrun. Whether they had or not, they were
overjoyed to be released from the cycle. I could have used any thing to
get them back on post. I could have used voodoo, it wouldn't have
mattered. I got a commendation from LRH.
la
Jommy Cross
<1136664793....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>:
Ummmm, from my perspective you *did* use voodoo. And got a commendation for
it.
Ever yours in fandom,
Jommy Cross
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