Marty Rathburn- rediscovering his humanity.
Richard Ford
once a senior scientologist and the author of many crimes.
I see a man discovering his own humanity. This is heart warming and
better than any amount of empty talk. It would be possible to ignore
everything the critics say about Scientology- and still understand
everything simply by looking at the photographs on his blog and
comparing them with his previous self.
Marty is now capable of smiling warmly and has become the relaxed
alpha male he was probably born to be. He is able to tolerate
divergent views (to a degree) and has even developed a sense of humor.
He posts a Peter Sellers clip from a Pink Panther film on his blog to
lampoon the PI's who now follow him.
This indicates a degree of self knowledge that is rare among
scientologists. Both he and Mike Rinder played the Peter Sellers role
in the past. When they laugh at the goons they are also recognising
something in themselves. This takes courage and I wish them well.
Eldon
I agree that Marty Rathbun appears to be making some progress, though
he is still having some reality adjustment problems. But I don't see
Mike Rinder laughing or doing anything else. He has said very little
so far, and nothing of substance. So how can you assume any courage on
his part? Or did I miss something?
Voltaire's Child
abusive things to come to terms with those things and take responsibility
after leaving. I don't even know where they'd begin. Rinder had done so very
many things and caused so much harm.
I'm not being sarcastic at all-- I'm actually asking, what could Rinder or
Rathbun DO?
RVY stacks up very well by comparison. So what was the difference?
Well, RVY took ownership of what he did. Spilled the beans about a lot of
things. Indicated his disgust. Also spent years trying to help others. If
Rinder and Rathbun did these things, it would certainly help. Seems like
they have a lot to make up for. Maybe more than almost anyone besides DM. I
wonder if they ever could do enough? But if they seemed to actually
be~trying~, people would probably be more receptive.
Claire
Eldon
wrote:
> I think it must be very difficult for someone who'd done so very many
> abusive things to come to terms with those things and take responsibility
> after leaving. I don't even know where they'd begin. Rinder had done so very
> many things and caused so much harm.
>
> I'm not being sarcastic at all-- I'm actually asking, what could Rinder or
> Rathbun DO?
>
> RVY stacks up very well by comparison. So what was the difference?
>
> Well, RVY took ownership of what he did. Spilled the beans about a lot of
> things. Indicated his disgust. Also spent years trying to help others.
Vaughn didn't have nearly as much to atone for in the first place. He
mostly wrote articles for Freedom Mag and other publications. He
wasn't pursuing smear campaigns and barratry against individuals,
trying to ruin their lives.
Dennis L Erlich
>I think it must be very difficult for someone who'd done so very many
>abusive things to come to terms with those things and take responsibility
>after leaving. I don't even know where they'd begin. Rinder had done so very
>many things and caused so much harm.
They should begin by studying the words of actual wise men and making
a comparison to Elrong's Clockwork Orange version of the mind and
soul. You know, get a perspective on life.
>I'm not being sarcastic at all-- I'm actually asking, what could Rinder or
>Rathbun DO?
You spell it out below, Fluff.
>RVY stacks up very well by comparison. So what was the difference?
>
>Well, RVY took ownership of what he did. Spilled the beans about a lot of
>things. Indicated his disgust. Also spent years trying to help others. If
>Rinder and Rathbun did these things, it would certainly help. Seems like
>they have a lot to make up for. Maybe more than almost anyone besides DM. I
>wonder if they ever could do enough? But if they seemed to actually
>be~trying~, people would probably be more receptive.
Receptive at all, in my case. Hard to be forgiving when faced with
the arrogance like "you deserved it."
D
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"All the people involved were not following the laws ...
were not allowing me to have my civil rights." - anonymous ex-scieno
Barbara loves Marty
> Many
Isn't it time to rediscover your humanity, RF? You could start by not
twisting the truth.
And about Mr. Texas' Blogspot. Whose big feet are those?
>
> http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/
Barbara Schwarz
Richard Ford
wrote:
What is this about big feet? You and greg had a thing about feet
together. I hope you are not flirting with me?
Barbara loves Marty
I had nothing with Greg and I am glad that he was finally eaten by a
shark.
And no, I did not flirt with you either, RF. I don't know what this
is. I never flirted with anybody. I just love. And I just love the
original Marty. Hope that clears all up for you.
Barbara Schwarz
Andrew Robertson
"Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralov...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I had nothing with Greg and I am glad that he was finally eaten by a
> shark.
You heartless woman! How could you say such an unkind thing at this time of
the year. Do you have no pity or forgiveness in your soul?
That poor shark will now be swimming around in circles, crippled with
indigestion and may never recover.
Andrew
A Merry Christmas and a fruitful and happy New Year to you too, even if you
are mean to sharks!
> Barbara Schwarz
Barbara loves Marty
> "Barbara loves Marty" <barbaralovesmarty...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:249d0db6-a8b9-424e...@26g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
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> > I had nothing with Greg and I am glad that he was finally eaten by a
> > shark.
>
> You heartless woman! How could you say such an unkind thing at this time of
> the year. Do you have no pity or forgiveness in your soul?
>
> That poor shark will now be swimming around in circles, crippled with
> indigestion and may never recover.
I hope the shark finds a helpmate to get over that indigestion.
>
> Andrew
>
> A Merry Christmas and a fruitful and happy New Year to you too, even if you
> are mean to sharks!
Thanks, Andrew. Same to you. Hope it will remain a sharkfree year to
come.
Barbara Schwarz
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