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Note about oral argument time, Scientology v. Armstrong, September 21, 2005 in San Francisco

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Gerry Armstrong

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Sep 16, 2005, 7:53:11 PM9/16/05
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I've been told that oral argument in Scientology's petition for writ
of mandate or certiorari is on line five of the five-line Division
Four calendar for the September 21 morning session.

All the cases are given the same starting time, 9:30 a.m., but the
fifth case, Scientology v. Marin Superior Court, in which I am the
real party in interest, will probably only be called around 11:00 a.m.

I'll be there at 9:30 in any event, but be prepared for a wait of more
than an hour.

If anyone is interested, directions to the Court of Appeal in San
Francisco and parking are here:
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/courts/courtsofappeal/1stDistrict/documents/directionmap.pdf

© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org

Magoo

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Sep 16, 2005, 9:45:25 PM9/16/05
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"Gerry Armstrong" <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote in message
news:b7kmi1dqjurm8bvb2...@4ax.com...
Darn! I wish I could come. I cannot........but I wish you luck with this,
Gerry. Can you simply explain what " writ
> of mandate or certiorari" is? How does this effect you?

I've never heard of that before.

Thanks and best,

Tory/Magoo~


> © Gerry Armstrong
> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org


Gerry Armstrong

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Sep 16, 2005, 10:21:23 PM9/16/05
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:45:25 -0700, "Magoo" <mag...@charter.net>
wrote:

A writ is generally an order issued by a court requiring the
performance of some act.

In Scientology's petition, the cult is asking the California Court of
Appeal to issue a writ ordering the Marin County Superior Court to
reinstate the punishments against me for contempt that the Marin Court
discharged at trial in April 2004.

Here's Scientology's writ petition:
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a7/appeal/pet-writ-cert-2004-07-16.html

Here's my opposition to the petition:
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a7/appeal/opp-writ.html

And here's Kendrick Moxon's reply brief:
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a7/appeal/pet-reply-2005-02-16.html

Essentially, Scientology wants the Court of Appeal to order the Marin
Court to order me to jail for a bunch of time and fine me several
thousand dollars. All of that punishment was dispensed with by Marin
Superior Court Judge Lynn Duryee at trial in 2004.

This letter to Moxon explains my position about what he and the cult
are doing in prosecuting their petition after dismissing their appeal.
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a7/appeal/ltr-ga-2005-09-16.html

>
> Thanks and best,
>
> Tory/Magoo~
>
>
>> © Gerry Armstrong
>> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
>

© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org

Barbara Schwartz is a Twat

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Sep 16, 2005, 10:26:40 PM9/16/05
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Who gives a shit about this?


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Felix Tilley

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Sep 16, 2005, 11:45:46 PM9/16/05
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:53:11 +0000, Gerry Armstrong Gerry Armstrong
<ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:

You need to get legal advice before you send this to a CoS lawyer.

--
Felix Tilley
MAJ, LARTvocate
Fanatic Legions
1-800-555-LART

Gerry Armstrong

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Sep 17, 2005, 12:08:15 AM9/17/05
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:45:46 -0700, Felix Tilley
<fti...@cyberbromo.int> wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:53:11 +0000, Gerry Armstrong Gerry Armstrong
><ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>
>You need to get legal advice before you send this to a CoS lawyer.

Are you a lawyer? If so, let me ask you.

© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org

roger gonnet

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Sep 17, 2005, 3:15:27 AM9/17/05
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"Magoo" <mag...@charter.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
432b...@news2.lightlink.com...

Writ of Certiorari:

certiorari
n. (sersh-oh-rare-ee) a writ (order) of a higher court to a lower court to send
all the documents in a case to it so the higher court can review the lower
court's decision. Certiorari is most commonly used by the U.S. Supreme Court,
which is selective about which cases it will hear on appeal. To appeal to the
Supreme Court one applies to the Supreme Court for a writ of certiorari, which
it grants at its discretion and only when at least three members believe that
the case involves a sufficiently significant federal question in the public
interest. By denying such a writ the Supreme Court says it will let the lower
court decision stand, particularly if it conforms to accepted precedents
(previously decided cases).

roger gonnet

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Sep 17, 2005, 3:15:49 AM9/17/05
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Good luck, Gerry and Caroline!

roger


"Gerry Armstrong" <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> a écrit dans le message de news:
b7kmi1dqjurm8bvb2...@4ax.com...

Lisa Ruby

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Sep 17, 2005, 4:52:47 AM9/17/05
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Gerry,

Is part of Scientology's current contempt charges have anything to do
with you talking to people about your religious beliefs? I know they
ordered you not to talk about your faith in God ten years ago which is
unconstitutional illegal.


Lisa Ruby
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net

wbarwell

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Sep 17, 2005, 10:22:15 AM9/17/05
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Barbara Schwartz is a Twat wrote:

> Who gives a shit about this?
>

Go away, you infantile and deeply stupid
little twit.


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Gerry Armstrong

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Sep 17, 2005, 11:57:51 AM9/17/05
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On 17 Sep 2005 01:52:47 -0700, "Lisa Ruby"
<Commis...@groupmail.com> wrote:

>Gerry,
>
>Is part of Scientology's current contempt charges have anything to do
>with you talking to people about your religious beliefs?

Yes. It's *all* about my expression of my religious beliefs. The
Miscavige cultists want me jailed for expressing my religious beliefs
about what they themselves insist is *religion*.

My opposition to the writ petition that Scientology is prosecuting in
the Court of Appeal addresses this issue.
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a7/appeal/opp-writ.html

See particularly the argument in this section:
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a7/appeal/opp-writ.html#IB

I believe that Scientology will commit any crime to suppress and
destroy my human right to express my religious beliefs about this
"religion."

> I know they
>ordered you not to talk about your faith in God ten years ago which is
>unconstitutional illegal.

Scientology has made everything in life "religion." Suing people in
secular wog courts is a religious tenet in Scientology. Lying is in
Scientology, as everyone knows, a sacrament. Using the law to harass
is religious scripture. Disposing of good people quietly and without
sorrow is a religious duty in Scientology. Washing cars in Scientology
is religion. Handling cut flowers in Scientology is religion. Black PR
and Fair Game are core Scientology religious doctrine.

Everything Scientology has done to harm me and my family and friends,
and everything it has done to suppress and destroy my human rights,
*must* be standard Scientology policy, practice and therefore
*scriptural*, and therefore *religion*. It must be *standard* policy
and practice, otherwise David Miscavige, the cult's nanodictator,
would have changed it, since he and his RTC Organs are undeniably
responsible for the *"purity"* of *scripture* and the *"purity"* or
*"standardness"* of application of *scripture*.

If it is religion to suppress, and even murder people, can it be any
less religion to oppose suppression and murder, especially the
suppression and murder of yourself?

I am the founder of the Church of Wogs®
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cow/index.html

Everything I say about Scientology or Scientologists or the wog world
or wogs forms CoW's religious scripture.

So not only is the criminal Scientology cult trying to have me jailed
and fined for expressing my religious beliefs, these criminals are
trying to have me jailed and fined for promulgating religious
scripture. This post to a.r.s. is religious scripture, and the
cultists would resell their souls to see me jailed and fined for
promulgating it.

>
>
>Lisa Ruby
>http://www.libertytothecaptives.net

© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org

roger gonnet

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Sep 17, 2005, 3:10:43 PM9/17/05
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"Gerry Armstrong" <ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> a écrit dans le message de news:
g7doi11ovtjsd9909...@4ax.com...

i like this appelation. Did you copyright it ? ;-))


> would have changed it, since he and his RTC Organs are undeniably
> responsible for the *"purity"* of *scripture* and the *"purity"* or
> *"standardness"* of application of *scripture*.


Purity being assimilable to "totalitarism" in scientology.


>
> If it is religion to suppress, and even murder people, can it be any
> less religion to oppose suppression and murder, especially the
> suppression and murder of yourself?
>
> I am the founder of the Church of Wogs®
> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cow/index.html
>
> Everything I say about Scientology or Scientologists or the wog world
> or wogs forms CoW's religious scripture.
>
> So not only is the criminal Scientology cult trying to have me jailed
> and fined for expressing my religious beliefs, these criminals are
> trying to have me jailed and fined for promulgating religious
> scripture. This post to a.r.s. is religious scripture, and the
> cultists would resell their souls to see me jailed and fined for
> promulgating it.

Their attorney sued me for having written he was a racist, after he has told a
Pinellas Judge that "everyone was a wog"; while wog is a derogatory term used by
scientologists to design those who are "worthy oriental gentlemen" =
"non-scientologists" = "those who don't even try".

These peopple can't have it both ways, but they try, they try, and retry to do
this: white is scientology? Yes, but black too is scientology: $$cientology über
alles!


r

Felix Tilley

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Sep 19, 2005, 10:41:30 PM9/19/05
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:08:15 +0000, Gerry Armstrong Gerry Armstrong
<ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:45:46 -0700, Felix Tilley <fti...@cyberbromo.int>
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:53:11 +0000, Gerry Armstrong Gerry Armstrong
>><ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>>
>>You need to get legal advice before you send this to a CoS lawyer.
>
> Are you a lawyer? If so, let me ask you.
>
> © Gerry Armstrong
> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org

I am not a lawyer.

Felix


Gerry Armstrong

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On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:41:30 -0700, Felix Tilley
<fti...@cyberbromo.int> wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:08:15 +0000, Gerry Armstrong Gerry Armstrong
><ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 20:45:46 -0700, Felix Tilley <fti...@cyberbromo.int>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:53:11 +0000, Gerry Armstrong Gerry Armstrong
>>><ge...@gerryarmstrong.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>You need to get legal advice before you send this to a CoS lawyer.
>>
>> Are you a lawyer? If so, let me ask you.
>>
>> © Gerry Armstrong
>> http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
>
>I am not a lawyer.

Thanks.

If I had a lawyer I would certainly have had him or her give me legal
advice. But I don't at the moment.

When I do have a lawyer, he or she will write any such letters to the
clam lawyers.

>
>Felix
>

© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org

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