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PRESS RELEASE 10-21-2005 Suppressive Person Defense League Statement re Scientology v. Armstrong

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Caroline Letkeman

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Oct 21, 2005, 5:44:53 PM10/21/05
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SUPPRESSIVE PERSON DEFENSE LEAGUE STATEMENT

THE SCIENTOLOGY V. ARMSTRONG CASE

October 21 Press Release

Contact: Caroline Letkeman
sp...@suppressiveperson.org

The Suppressive Person Defense League (SPDL) is shocked by the
California Court of Appeal's grant on Wednesday of the Scientology
organization's petition to reinflict the punishment of jail sentences
and fines against Gerry Armstrong that Marin County Judge Lynn Duryee
had discharged in April 2004.
http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/nonpub/A107095.DOC

Armstrong is a Founding Suppressive Person and Co-Creator of
www.suppressiveperson.org which is dedicated to defending
Scientology's SP victims, and building public awareness of
Scientology's "Suppressive Person" doctrine by reasoned discussion.
Scientology, and its head David Miscavige personally, have considered
and attacked Armstrong a major SP enemy for almost 24 years.

Scientology's appeals court success in its religious war against
Armstrong begins with his punishment of twenty-eight days in jail and
$4600 in fines, but the potential exists for Scientology to keep him
jailed forever. What is Armstrong's "crime?" Nothing more than
discussing the Scientology religion. Not lying, not libeling
Scientology, but telling the truth about this religion and
organization as he believes the truth to be.

For every mention Armstrong makes of his sincere beliefs about the
Scientology religion, or even about his own religion and his own
church (the Church of Wogs (CoW)
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cow/index.html ) Scientology
wants him jailed, fined and forced to pay the organization $50,000 in
"damages." Unimaginable but true, and extensively documented on his
Scientology v. Armstrong legal archive.
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/index.html

Armstrong's position is that it is no more lawful for the U.S. Courts
to jail and financially crush him for discussing his beliefs about
Scientology than it would be lawful to jail and ruin a person for
discussing his beliefs about God and Jesus in the Christian religion.
The fact that U.S. Courts bend over to Scientology's desires to jail
people for discussing their Scientology beliefs, but those Courts
would never consider jailing people for discussing their Christian, or
Jewish, or Islamic beliefs, makes Scientology a favored and
constitutionally unlawful state religion.

In a number of countries, Scientology is not considered a religion at
all, but a commercial and totalitarian cult with a goal of world
domination. The SP doctrine makes Scientology a hate group. The SP
doctrine's execution against SP targets, known in Scientology as "fair
game," makes the organization a criminal conspiracy.

SPDL points to the irony of the U.S. using its International Religious
Freedom Act of 1998 to condemn those other countries for their
unfavorable appraisal of the Scientology religion, when the U.S. is
the only nation where, as this appellate ruling shows, a person can be
jailed and ruined for his religious expressions of their religious
beliefs about the Scientology religion.

Although the Court of Appeal recognized that Armstrong had a "First
Amendment right to the free exercise of his religion" and that what
Armstrong was communicating could be "expressions of his religious
beliefs," the Court made no mention of the whole religious class of
Suppressive Persons that Armstrong represents. The Court also made no
reference to the SP doctrine, which causes and justifies Scientology's
religious persecution of Armstrong, including the persecution using
the secular courts, and governs every action Scientology takes against
any SP.

SPDL is very disappointed by the unthinking, uncaring and uncourageous
way out that the California Court of Appeal has taken in the
Scientology v. Armstrong war, when the Court had the opportunity to do
something thoughtful, considerate and brave. One more injustice in
this war, of course, is simply one more thing for Armstrong to
continue to discuss, and one more motivator for SPDL to act in concert
with him and with SPs everywhere to facilitate their discussions.

SPDL's analysis shows that judges, and other officials and even media,
do not confront the SP doctrine and are silent about it because it is
so evil. Armstrong says he cannot ever be silent about the doctrine
because he has confronted it and it is so evil.

Caroline Letkeman
SPDL
#1-45950 Alexander Avenue
Chilliwack, B.C. V2P 1L5
604-703-1373
sp...@suppressiveperson.org

Mike Gormez

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"On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:44:53 GMT, Caroline Letkeman
<sp...@suppressiveperson.org> wrote in
<n1oil1hpenq07gri5...@4ax.com>:

>Armstrong is a Founding Suppressive Person and Co-Creator of

Could have been written by Fred


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sharky

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Oct 21, 2005, 11:38:10 PM10/21/05
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"Caroline Letkeman" <sp...@suppressiveperson.org> wrote in message
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> SUPPRESSIVE PERSON DEFENSE LEAGUE STATEMENT
>
> THE SCIENTOLOGY V. ARMSTRONG CASE
>
> October 21 Press Release
>
> Contact: Caroline Letkeman
> sp...@suppressiveperson.org
>
> The Suppressive Person Defense League (SPDL) is shocked ...

ROFL


roger gonnet

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Oct 22, 2005, 3:01:26 AM10/22/05
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"Caroline Letkeman" <sp...@suppressiveperson.org> a écrit dans le message de
news: n1oil1hpenq07gri5...@4ax.com...

> SUPPRESSIVE PERSON DEFENSE LEAGUE STATEMENT
>
> THE SCIENTOLOGY V. ARMSTRONG CASE
>
> October 21 Press Release
>
> Contact: Caroline Letkeman
> sp...@suppressiveperson.org
>
> The Suppressive Person Defense League (SPDL) is shocked by the
> California Court of Appeal's grant on Wednesday of the Scientology
> organization's petition to reinflict the punishment of jail sentences
> and fines against Gerry Armstrong that Marin County Judge Lynn Duryee
> had discharged in April 2004.
> http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/nonpub/A107095.DOC

This looks as merely *formal* as an opinion.

As I understand it, it rules that past judges were or were not allowed to rule
this or that.

Nothing really conclusive regarding the legality of depriving somebody of his
First Amendment rights.

My advice: Go to the ONU commission of Human Rights http://www.un.org/rights/ -
but go first to an international Human Rights watchdog assoc, like
www.hrw.org
or
www.amnesty.org

visible violation of your rights - from the universal declaration of human
rights:

"Article 8.
Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national
tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the
constitution or by law.

Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this
right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either
alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his
religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes
freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart
information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."

roger

Larry T.

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Oct 22, 2005, 3:07:11 AM10/22/05
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"roger gonnet" <r...@antisectes.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Caroline Letkeman" <sp...@suppressiveperson.org> a écrit dans le message
> de news: n1oil1hpenq07gri5...@4ax.com...
>> SUPPRESSIVE PERSON DEFENSE LEAGUE STATEMENT
>>
>> THE SCIENTOLOGY V. ARMSTRONG CASE
>>
>> October 21 Press Release
>>
>> Contact: Caroline Letkeman
>> sp...@suppressiveperson.org
>>
>> The Suppressive Person Defense League (SPDL) is shocked by the
>> California Court of Appeal's grant on Wednesday of the Scientology
>> organization's petition to reinflict the punishment of jail sentences
>> and fines against Gerry Armstrong that Marin County Judge Lynn Duryee
>> had discharged in April 2004.
>> http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/nonpub/A107095.DOC
>


Wow.

You see, that is the thing about Scientologists. They show up at the most
inopportune moments with things like this.

Gerry Armstrong should know better. If a cult like Scientology pays you a
fortune and asks you to be quiet about it in exchange and you violate it,
that is what happens. And that is to anybody, not just Scientology.

It is not my wish to BE Gerry Armstrong however he is at time a likeable
person.

There is a very nice picture of him brandishing a medieval sword on the
front page of his website looking typically like himself.

--
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeoqz2m/scientology/

(SNIP)


roger gonnet

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Oct 22, 2005, 6:39:50 AM10/22/05
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"Larry T." <xxxxx...@xxxxx.xxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> "roger gonnet" <r...@antisectes.net> wrote in message
> news:4359e3c4$0$21243$626a...@news.free.fr...
>>
>> "Caroline Letkeman" <sp...@suppressiveperson.org> a écrit dans le message de
>> news: n1oil1hpenq07gri5...@4ax.com...
>>> SUPPRESSIVE PERSON DEFENSE LEAGUE STATEMENT
>>>
>>> THE SCIENTOLOGY V. ARMSTRONG CASE
>>>
>>> October 21 Press Release
>>>
>>> Contact: Caroline Letkeman
>>> sp...@suppressiveperson.org
>>>
>>> The Suppressive Person Defense League (SPDL) is shocked by the
>>> California Court of Appeal's grant on Wednesday of the Scientology
>>> organization's petition to reinflict the punishment of jail sentences
>>> and fines against Gerry Armstrong that Marin County Judge Lynn Duryee
>>> had discharged in April 2004.
>>> http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/nonpub/A107095.DOC
>>
>
>
> Wow.
>
> You see, that is the thing about Scientologists. They show up at the most
> inopportune moments with things like this.
>
> Gerry Armstrong should know better. If a cult like Scientology pays you a
> fortune and asks you to be quiet about it in exchange and you violate it, that
> is what happens. And that is to anybody, not just Scientology.

The problem is that nobody can be deprived of its constituationnal and human
rights by way of paying him or not paying him, and that judges who think that
their decisions supersede their Federal Constitution should be sent... to
retrain! I can't understand how little these people apply their "solutions",
sometimes.

r


banchukita

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Oct 22, 2005, 7:10:17 AM10/22/05
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Larry T. wrote:

[snip]

>
> Gerry Armstrong should know better. If a cult like Scientology pays you a
> fortune and asks you to be quiet about it in exchange and you violate it,
> that is what happens. And that is to anybody, not just Scientology.
>

I disagree here.

No cult, group, organization, corporation, or religion should be able
to buy your or anyone else's silence and have it stick legally while
they skip off, committing more abuses against people and the law.

Your right to whistleblow is not taken away by signing any piece of
paper.


-maggie, human being

Muldoon

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Oct 22, 2005, 9:49:23 AM10/22/05
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"Legal settlements" don't occur in a vacuum. As I recall, the
settlement involving Armstrong was a group settlement - his, then,
cooperation was required for the over-all "settlement" (involving many
others) to occur. The other parties wanted to "settle." Their friends
and associates _to whom they owed money_ wanted them to "settle," the
lawyer(s), who wanted to be paid, wanted a "settlement," and - well,
it's not quite so simple is it?

The policy of "using the legal system," in shady ways, to "handle"
critics and dissenters, is more complex than sometimes recognized.

One thing Scientology does, after corralling another into a
"settlement" is tell others how "rich' they are. I don't recall
Armstrong having money do you? The lawyers and the creditors were well
paid though.

Larry T.

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Oct 22, 2005, 3:09:34 PM10/22/05
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"roger gonnet" <r...@antisectes.net> wrote in message
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Roger:

In Scientology stats do not always necessarily mean that people's freedom
and rights have been upheld, but more that someone got the church to pay for
another portion of their Grade Chart.

--
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeoqz2m/scientology/


Larry T.

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Oct 22, 2005, 3:12:26 PM10/22/05
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"banchukita" <banch...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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banchukita:

If it were me, and you gave me $1 million dollars to compensate for the fact
that you had killed two of my horses by running them over with your car
drunk {which you did not do in real life of course} but you said for me not
to tell anyone as part of the agreement, Maggie, it is not really my
business and desire to go around broadcasting that to people then out of
respect for you as well.

--
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeoqz2m/scientology/


Larry T.

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Oct 22, 2005, 3:14:55 PM10/22/05
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"Muldoon" <bria...@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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Yes, but it is a Catch 22 then, because by his not being made wealthy from
the settlement, regarldless of how it was reached, one should be glad to be
rid of such a group, he places himself at risk by communicating certain
things that exist in writing only between him and the church to not
communicate as part of their agreement.

--
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banchukita

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Oct 22, 2005, 3:34:39 PM10/22/05
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Good points, thanks.

It's a good thing Scn, inc. has a stupidity factor in its behavior that
rivals its ruthlessness.

For instance, they put a picture of Gerry on the RFW website that makes
him look like Jesus. Who wasn't motivated by money, either, AFAIK.

-maggie, human being

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