L. Ron the Hyponotist
Android Cat
Whiteside Parsons, by George Pendle, 2005, ISBN-13: 978-0-15-100997-8
p.126, Chapter 5, Fraternity:
Full-time pulp writers also came to give talks. E.E. "Doc" Smith (who had
gained his learned nickname through working as a food chemist specializing
in doughnut mixes) spoke about his famed Skylark "space opera" series, and a
young L. Ron Hubbard--years from founding the religion of Scientology, but
already a pulp writer of some note--spun tall tales about how he had lassoed
polar bears in Alaska and gave awe-inspiring examples of his skills at
hypnostism.
(Science Fiction League, Los Angeles Chapter #4, or LASFL, 1938.)
Forrest J. Ackerman, author interview, "He was a super hypnotist,"
remembered Ackerman; "He hypnotized everybody in the club except me. I never
wanted to lose control of myself, and I remember one member coming round and
showing us the little kangaroo that he said he had hopping around in his
hand."
--
Ron of that ilk.
Out_Of_The_Dark
This is a terrific find, Ron! Has it been posted on any critical web
sites, or did you just find this?
Mary
Android Cat
> On May 19, 9:19 am, "Android Cat" <androidca...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> From /Strange Angel/, The Otherworldly Life of Rocket Scientist John
>> Whiteside Parsons, by George Pendle, 2005, ISBN-13: 978-0-15-100997-8
>>
>> p.126, Chapter 5, Fraternity:
>>
>> Full-time pulp writers also came to give talks. E.E. "Doc" Smith
>> (who had gained his learned nickname through working as a food
>> chemist specializing in doughnut mixes) spoke about his famed
>> Skylark "space opera" series, and a young L. Ron Hubbard--years from
>> founding the religion of Scientology, but already a pulp writer of
>> some note--spun tall tales about how he had lassoed polar bears in
>>
>> (Science Fiction League, Los Angeles Chapter #4, or LASFL, 1938.)
>>
>> Forrest J. Ackerman, author interview, "He was a super hypnotist,"
>> remembered Ackerman; "He hypnotized everybody in the club except me.
>> I never wanted to lose control of myself, and I remember one member
>> coming round and showing us the little kangaroo that he said he had
>> hopping around in his hand."
>
> sites, or did you just find this?
I just picked up Strange Angel yesterday. It's about Parsons, so it might
have been overlooked by critics, and some of the stuff about Hubbard is from
Miller and other sources that have been covered in other books. Still,
there's plenty of new zingers, and I haven't even started through the whole
sex-magick stuff.
It was reduced from $17.95 to $6, so how could I resist?
Out_Of_The_Dark
For those interested in seeing the covers or buying the book:
Strange Angel:
The Otherworldly Life of Rocket Scientist John Whiteside Parsons
(Hardcover) by George Pendle (Author)
"In December 1913 Ruth and Marvel Parsons left the ice and snow of the
East for what they hoped would be a new future..."
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/015100997X/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-7434163-7774237#reader-link
"Strange Angel" Back Cover (You are viewing the Paperback edition
(2006) from Harvest Books.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/015100997X/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-7434163-7774237#reader-link
Mary
Lermanet.com
<androi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Forrest J. Ackerman, author interview, "He was a super hypnotist,"
>>> remembered Ackerman; "He hypnotized everybody in the club except me.
>>> I never wanted to lose control of myself, and I remember one member
>>> coming round and showing us the little kangaroo that he said he had
>>> hopping around in his hand."
The kangaroo story has been webbed for 7 years
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist.htm
links to original images of Ackerman's notes
>>
>> This is a terrific find, Ron! Has it been posted on any critical web
>> sites, or did you just find this?
>
>I just picked up Strange Angel yesterday. It's about Parsons, so it might
>have been overlooked by critics, and some of the stuff about Hubbard is from
>Miller and other sources that have been covered in other books. Still,
>there's plenty of new zingers, and I haven't even started through the whole
>sex-magick stuff.
>
>It was reduced from $17.95 to $6, so how could I resist?
Arnaldo Lerma
Lermanet.com Exposing the CON
WE COME BACK FOR OUR FRIENDS and FAMILY
to get them out while they are still alive!
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speake
If the Borg were to breed with the Ferengi you'd get Scientology!
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com
http://ocmb.lermanet.us/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=381
"it's incredible how much money the hypnotized disciples of a clever and ruthless operator will plead and beg of him to accept from them"
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist4.htm
"Scientologists believe that most human problems
can be traced to lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial
people massacred by their ruler, Xenu, over 75 million
years ago. These spirits attach themselves by "clusters"
to individuals in the contemporary world, causing
spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives
of their hosts"
[Judge Leonie Brinkema 4 Oct 96 Memorandum Opinion]
29 November 1995
Memorandum Opinion Judge Leonie Brinkema
"the Court is now convinced that the primary motivation..
in suing Lerma, ...is to stifle criticism of
Scientology in general and to harass its critics. "
What do we get from getting people out of scientology?
We create an individual who has become a Houdini of
all mind traps.. folks who won't be fooled again.
People who can DE-program, People who can spring mental
traps..
We create, by freeing someone of scientology, a being
who has the ability to break the strongest slave chains
of all.
Those forged of lies. (c) Arnaldo Lerma
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities
Voltaire (1694 - 1778)
"He exuded evil, malice, and stupidity"
Gore Vidal on meeting L Ron Hubbard
Android Cat
> On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:05:31 -0400, "Android Cat"
> <androi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>> Forrest J. Ackerman, author interview, "He was a super hypnotist,"
>>>> remembered Ackerman; "He hypnotized everybody in the club except
>>>> me. I never wanted to lose control of myself, and I remember one
>>>> member coming round and showing us the little kangaroo that he
>>>> said he had hopping around in his hand."
>
> The kangaroo story has been webbed for 7 years
> http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-the-hypnotist.htm
> links to original images of Ackerman's notes
Yes, I'd seen the kangaroo story previously. However, Forry repeated the
same story in an interview with the author, so at least his report is
consistent--unlike Hubbard and CoS which kept changing their stories all the
time.
The kangaroo story is relatively mild. Bare-Faced Messiah, p.140 shows that
Hubbard could be a true mind-fuck sadist:
Hubbard also played a cruel, post-hypnotic trick on Bill Cox. He
took him to one side at the meeting and told him that the following
afternoon, at two o'clock, he would drop whatever he was doing and
meet Hubbard at a building site on the corner of Wilshire and Lucas.
Hubbard was waiting there next day when, at precisely two o'clock, Cox
showed up. Under Hubbard's instructions, Cox first found he could not
take his hands of his pockets. Then he was ordered to take hold of a
nearby railing and discovered he could not let go. As he struggled to
release his grip, Hubbard told him the rail would get hotter and
hotter until it was red hot. Considerably distressed, Cox writhed in
agony until at last Hubbard laughed, patted him on the shoulder, told
him he could go home and that he would not remember anything that had
happened.
This incident only later came to light because a fellow science
fiction writer, A.E. van Vogt, shared Hubbard's interest in hypnotism.
One night at a Lasfas meeting, someone described a particularly vivid
dream and Hubbard immediately claimed responsibility for it, saying it
was a hallucination he had caused while he was `out strolling in
Astral form'.
Van Vogt did not necessarily disbelieve Hubbard but thought it was
more likely that he had induced the dream by post-hypnotic suggestion.
With the help of a professional hypnotist friend, he decided to check
if any members of the club had been hypnotized by Hubbard without
being able to remember it. They started with Bill Cox, put him in a
deep trance and quickly learned of the ordeal that Hubbard had put him
through. Although van Vogt gravely disapproved, he continued,
curiously, to hold Hubbard in the highest esteem.
13. Interview with A.E. van Vogt, Los Angeles, 22 July 1986
I do think that Hubbard tended to play his little "games" with anyone who
hung around him for any length of time. I wonder if A.E. van Vogt ever had
_himself_ checked out for the cause of that curious "highest esteem". (In
BFM, Miller speculates that Hubbard learned hypnotism from Jack Parsons, but
if he was showing off at LASFL meetings in 1938, that would have been before
he'd had much contact with Parsons.)
Out_Of_The_Dark
Besides substanciating the kangeroo story, this additional
documentation is great information to add to all that has been found
on the subject of scientology being founded, in part, on the
principles of hypnosis techniques.