Am unsure as to who I should be ignoring apart from the obvious candidates -
Barbara,TS,Brick in the wall.
With Thanks
Owen
>Can anyone post a recommended list to add to my killfile.
>
>Am unsure as to who I should be ignoring apart from the obvious candidates -
>Barbara,TS,Brick in the wall.
I was going to paste in my twitfile, but it's well over a hundred
lines and I think most of them are not being used anymore.
There are a dozen versions of Barbara in there, at least a dozen for
Gerry Scarff. Recent addition are the twits who post the same msg in
response to spam.
There are tens of thousands of good postings from the past they could
copy if they have to respond to spam. Posting the same response to TS
is just more spam.
BTW, a new cabal is forming up to track down TS and see just what he
is.
Now is the time to put down your bet.
Keith Henson
While out-and-out recommendation of Whom to Killfile would not be judicious,
it is advised to sort posts by Sender, and then look at the kind of things
some individuals post and re-post and re-post here, and then read responses.
Such is part of intelligent reading of newsgroups, if one is going to cut
through the noise. In the case of a.r.s. this newsgroup is the ongoing
target of carpet-spam projects by operatives from Scientology, and if one is
aware of it, a brief look at the subject should be enough to figure out Who
You Don't Need To Read On A.R.S. In Order To Learn More About Scientology.
Lastly there are multiple incarnations of such spammer Scientologists, and
like monkeys they learn obfuscation techniques from other spammer posters.
In the case of Babs "Earplants" Schwarz, I have counted as many as four
yahoo/anon email addresses in use at a time, and so one must again discern
appropriately. This technique was learned from others, as they came and
went on the newsgroup thanks to their ISPs or mail service shutting their
accounts down; as such the grapeshot method used produces several results
for the Scientologist operative:
1. It theoretically becomes more difficult for people to read the newsgroup,
because of the noise factor;
2. Duplicate spamming , posting duplicate messages (occasionally with
different subjects, but the same drivel inside) over and over and over
again, for a Scientologist, makes such "true for you", which is more
important to such an operative than the actual truth, which is usually at
odds with what they have to spew. It was L. Ron Hubbard's contention, as is
pounded into Scientologists to this day, that the more something appears in
"print", the more "true" it "becomes". (While this "logic" can be easily
debunked by any non-Scientologist, no Scientologist will ever contradict
this essential "principle");
3. Duplicate spamming encourages a response from people - usually demands to
stop or face the consequences a spammer increasingly faces - which
Scientologists can always be counted upon to interpret loudly and
indignantly as "religious bigotry" and a violation of free speech;
4. Duplicate spamming theoretically keeps critics and other true believers
in free speech busy complaining to ISPs and mail server admins, instead of
causing damage to the Scientology cult by voicing the truth. Of course
Scientologists can't seem to learn that we will always have time for both
voicing the truth about Scientology AS WELL AS complaining to ISPs etc and
getting their sorry butts knocked offline for as much as 90 days at a pop.
Duplicate spamming is the resort of a desperate individual who cannot
otherwise get anyone to notice what they're trying to post. Sometimes
response on the newsgroup to their posts is the worst thing one can do is
respond, for in the perpretrator's mind (or as in the case of Babs Schwarz
and a few others, the semblance of a mind), Response is Validation.
--
http://BuffaloScientologyInfo.com - http://www.xenu.net
http://PerkinsTragedy.org - http://www.xenutv.net
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
"Church" of Cartoonism
*
* " You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way
you can control anybody is to lie to them."
* -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
*
* "...Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her
crimes, known and unknown. And act completely confident that those crimes
exist...."
* L. Ron Hubbard, "Critics of Scientology", November 5, 1967
*
* "All men shall be my slaves! All women shall succumb to my charms! All
mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!"
- L. Ron Hubbard, "Personal Affirmations"
Well, if you're going to killfile, just killfile the people whose posts
don't interest you!
Peach
Good that you tell them that, Peach, as Owen, Keith Henson and Stephen
Goodman seem not to know that if they killfile a poster who posts
interesting, that they may be unable to read him or her. :)
Killfiling is one awful unfriendly and agressive word. Indicates that
the person who does that is so worked up and out of control that he
could kill. Awful. Shouldn't the killfile rather be called "The
No-Interest-File"?
Red Fred made me laugh when he once posted that kill-filing is for
pussys. It is for people who have no confront to deal with the opinions
of posters that don't agree with them. Kill-file is for people who are
afraid to enlargen their horizon. As if postings would kill them. :)
Anyway, I don't mind being kill-filed by such guys. I never run out of
hecklers. Once the old are gone, new come by. Or the old once lied and
never killfiled me and respond and heckle me with their sock puppets.
I post via Google. They allowed just a few postings with one ID, but
you can go in with another ID. That is mainly the reasons why people
using Google post with more IDs, but I usually sign my postings and
everybody know that the poster is me.
If some people feel their kill-files are getting too big, they could
ask Google to change these limited posting rules.
Barbara Schwarz
>Can anyone post a recommended list to add to my killfile.
>
>Am unsure as to who I should be ignoring apart from the obvious candidates -
>Barbara,TS,Brick in the wall.
Add anyone you don't want to read, for whatever reason. There's not a
standard list. Asking for specific names will have the loons only bombard
this thread with loads of postings.
--
Mike Gormez
- World Institute of Scientology Enterprises (WISE) - www.stop-wise.biz
- www.whyaretheydead.net - Why Are They Dead, Scientology?
- Child abuse and neglect by scientologists www.taxexemptchildabuse.net
- www.psychassualt.org - Scientology hatred of mental health (CCHR)
Yes, that also would be appropriate, though some posters one killfiles
to avoid thoughts of murder and mayhem, indeed.
> Red Fred made me laugh when he once posted that kill-filing is for
> pussys. It is for people who have no confront to deal with the opinions
> of posters that don't agree with them. Kill-file is for people who are
> afraid to enlargen their horizon. As if postings would kill them. :)
I think it's often about saving time. And for the people who actually
download all the newsgroup articles, saving bandwidth.
> Anyway, I don't mind being kill-filed by such guys. I never run out of
> hecklers. Once the old are gone, new come by. Or the old once lied and
> never killfiled me and respond and heckle me with their sock puppets.
>
> I post via Google. They allowed just a few postings with one ID, but
> you can go in with another ID. That is mainly the reasons why people
> using Google post with more IDs, but I usually sign my postings and
> everybody know that the poster is me.
>
> If some people feel their kill-files are getting too big, they could
> ask Google to change these limited posting rules.
>
> Barbara Schwarz
Well posting through Google is all around not the best way to go.
Peach
I salute you, Keith for your tenacity in posting in (and presumably
reading) a.r.s.
I stopped lurking about a year ago and now I only regularly check your
posts. The idea behind that behaviour is that if Keith comments on
something, it's worth reading! Much better than killfile.
Thank you.
Nils Essle
Sweden
There is a problem with killfiling... if you don't see what's happening almost
everywhere, you can ignore important "facts" like the OSA spammings that should
be registerd for some action before courts, as soon as we get someone having
some money, since the laws exist against libel etc.
Sure, when one does not have enough time to take at least a look at messages
titles, killfiling the OSA spammers is useful.
r
And nothing personal Barbara, but I find most of your posts rather
incredulious.
Owen
I use the following: your needs will vary.
alt.* drop from:*Psych*
alt.* drop from:*Toomajan*
alt.* drop from:*ikka*
alt.* drop from:*basicbasic*
alt.* drop from:*Dorian*
alt.* drop from:*psych*
alt.* drop from:*laserclam*
alt.* drop from:*Dorian*
alt.* drop from:*equality@*
alt.* drop subject:*Cigarette*
alt.* drop subject:*Smokes*
alt.* drop from:*@ivy.league*
alt.* drop from:*Slitherin*
alt.* drop from:*Lawrence*
alt.* drop from:*Kymus*
alt.* drop Newsgroups:*alt.paranor*
alt.* drop from:*confidential@*
alt.* drop Newsgroups:*alt.astrology*
alt.* drop Newsgroups:*alt.drugs*
alt.* drop Newsgroups:*meditation*
alt.* drop from:*Truth Seeker*
alt.* drop from:*doubledrooks*
alt.* drop from:*LaserClam*
alt.* drop from:*NewzForYou*
alt.* drop from:*Chatterly*
alt.* drop from:*Still_lying*
alt.* drop from:*GarryScarff*
alt.* drop from:*usb24*
alt.* drop from:*pacetraveler*
alt.* drop from:*GarryS*
alt.* drop from:*jazzerciser@hotmail*
alt.* drop from:*notavailable@*
alt.* drop from:*wanlorn@*
alt.* drop from:*look-on@mindprod*
alt.* drop NNTP-Posting-Host:*128.171.51.*
alt.* drop from:*needham*
alt.* drop from:*Marksman*
alt.* drop from:*devil505@*
alt.* drop from:*dufour*
alt.* drop from:*Achtung*
alt.* drop from:*anonymous.informer*
alt.* drop from:*Skip*
alt.* drop from:*sol@nospam*
alt.* drop from:*toomajan*
alt.* drop from:*ospam...@yahoo.com*
alt.* drop NNTP-Posting-Host:*domitilla.aioe.org*
alt.* drop from:*Larry*
alt.* drop from:*nospamplease*
alt.* drop from:*rabbit*
alt.* drop Newsgroups:*alt.suicide*
alt.* drop Newsgroups:*alt.showbiz*
alt.* drop from:*Dufour*
alt.* drop from:*Scarff*
alt.* drop from:*therealmsoftime*
alt.* drop from:*croesus*
alt.* drop NNTP-Posting-Host:*205.127*
alt.* drop NNTP-Posting-Host:*128.171.51.*
alt.* drop NNTP-Posting-Host:*151.30.138.*
alt.* drop NNTP-Posting-Host:*70.21.155.*
alt.* drop NNTP-Posting-Host:*204.113.*
alt.* drop from:*nfotroll*
---
http://lastliberal.org / I support privatization of religion.
Free random & sequential signature changer http://holysmoke.org/sig
I don't mind you killing file me, Owen. I read that you admire Bin
Laden, which is creepy to say the least.
Barbara
interesting websites:
www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
www.cchr.com
True, esp. the Beta version is even more unreliable to catch up.
Barbara Schwarz
interesting websites:
www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
www.cchr.com
I never spammed, however, as some spammers had targeted me in their
spam postings, I felt that I needed to reply.
The price of freedom is to fight back not to let lawless folks walk all
over me.
> Can anyone post a recommended list to add to my killfile.
>
> Am unsure as to who I should be ignoring apart from the obvious candidates -
> Barbara,TS,Brick in the wall.
There are currently six people (under various IDs) in my killfile,
including the three you just named. That cuts ARS down to manageable
proportions for me. I try to only killfile people who consistently post
lots of rubbish.
--
Alt.Religion.Scientology FAQ
http://www.daisy.freeserve.co.uk/faq.htm
Tell me about it, bro. Lying hypocrites they are. In order to defend
myself from spammers I had to produce more postings. Questions always
is: who started the spamming, and it not me. Defense is not spamming,
it is defense.
Barbara
Why do you need other people to suggest to you or otherwise tell you who you
should be reading?
Look at the posts. Look for patterns. Look for people you particularly like,
or whatever.
Keep in mind the fact that even someone who can be a total fuckhead a great
deal of the time may still post excellent information at other times.
You also can color code posts. That helps, too. They'll still be there, but
you can prioritize.
Like me, I have anything that has Schwartz or Scarff in the title or sender
color coded in red. boy, is there a lot of read on my OE.
C
I am relatively new here and thought I'd attempt to save some time by asking
others....
At the end of the day it would still be my decision to add a person to the
'ignore' folder...
How would I go about colour coding the posts?... It's not something I've
come across before.
"Ball of Fluff" <getof...@fluffentology.com> wrote in message
news:42f798da$1...@news2.lightlink.com...
They are probably all the same color.
--
Larry T.
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeoqz2m/scientology/
"Oh, Chubsy-Ubsy, there's something heavy on my heart."
...from "Love Business" starring The Little Rascals
>
> C
>
<snip>
> I post via Google. They allowed just a few postings with one ID, but
> you can go in with another ID. That is mainly the reasons why people
> using Google post with more IDs, but I usually sign my postings and
> everybody know that the poster is me.
>
> If some people feel their kill-files are getting too big, they could
> ask Google to change these limited posting rules.
>
> Barbara Schwarz
You're always delusional Barbara; and often maliciously deceptive, but
it's rare that you're out-and-out dishonest.
Here, you are. You are telling a flat out lie.
You went through a whole period where you posted hundreds of articles
using a variety of 'nicks' and unigned, *and* pretended they were'nt
really from you.
Now you are simply lying. Which makes you a liar.
Zinj
But then you get different opinions and who doesn't like whom.
>
> At the end of the day it would still be my decision to add a person to the
> 'ignore' folder...
Sure.
>
> How would I go about colour coding the posts?... It's not something I've
> come across before.
Go to the outlook tool bar, hit message, then create rule from message, then
you can, from there, create parameters to color code posts.
C
Your lie, Joe,
not mine.
>and often maliciously deceptive,
Your lie, Joe,
not mine.
but
> it's rare that you're out-and-out dishonest.
>
> Here, you are. You are telling a flat out lie.
Your lie, Joe,
not mine.
>
> You went through a whole period where you posted hundreds of articles
> using a variety of 'nicks' and unigned, *and* pretended they were'nt
> really from you.
>
> Now you are simply lying. Which makes you a liar.
Your lie, Joe,
not mine.
There is no posting from me in which I lied not being a poster or lied
being a poster.
Barbara Schwarz
>
> Zinj
>> I am relatively new here and thought I'd attempt to save some time by
>> asking others....
> But then you get different opinions and who doesn't like whom.
Ohmighod! Not different opinions!
Michael Reuss
Honorary Kid
II think the attempts to control the forum via this kind of "peer
pressure" is wrong. It seems that if one has the courage to stand
against the CoS they would also have the courage to speak to whoever
they wanted to without fear of being blacklisted.
Lisa Ruby
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, "pjsavoie" <pjsav...@rogers.com> wrote:
>"Lisa Ruby" <Commissio...@groupmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1121623457.3...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> pjsavoie wrote:
>>>Fluoride is NOT a chemical, it's NOT a toxin in the doses used in water
>>>(often lower than the natural content in many water sources), and it's NOT
>>>a
>>>tool of the evil psychs.
>> Scientology's attempts at damage control are unrelenting.
>> Natural fluoirde is NOT identical to sodium fluoride. Sodium fluoride
>> is a
>> "direct byproduct of aluminum production."
>> Towns and cities receive financial incentives to place this toxic waste
>> product
>> into their water supplies.
> You repeated yourself, so I will repeat MYSELF. Read this:
>http://www.quackwatch.org/03He althPromotion/fluoride.html
> I am not a Scientologist. I can see your mistake; I was using "evil
>psychs" in an ironic sense and poking fun at the lingo of Scientologists. I
>am amused at some people making elaborate satires with the elaborate CoS
>lingo, and even running to the on-line glossaries doesn't make it totally
>clear to me. But funny.
I believe Lisa Ruby is one of the insane people that inhabit ars.
I highly recommend you put her in your killfile and be done with her.
Otherwise you will probably get killfiled by the regulars here for
constantly replying to someone that is mentally ill.
Cerridwen
http://www.truthaboutscientolo gy.com/stats/
So much entheta, so little time.
> Can anyone post a recommended list to add to my killfile.
>
> Am unsure as to who I should be ignoring apart from the obvious candidates -
> Barbara,TS,Brick in the wall.
And yet you bitch and whine about Net Nanny and the filters Scientology
I prefer to debate in a civilised fashion rather than have the childish name
calling and way out fantasies of some of the more deluded posters....
And the difference between net nanny and my ignoring certain posters is that
it is my choice..
I have read many of their posts and find nothing of value, or am sick of
seeing the same post again and again and again.... ad nauseam...
"Ben Dover" <weho...@myway.com> wrote in message
news:1123569496.5...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Well, people can chose who they want to put in their kill files. The Net
Nanny permitted no such choice. And killfiling a ridiculous spamming
poster such as TruthSeeker is quite a bit different from blocking the
posts of someone like Keith Henson, doncha think?
Peach
Funny how you don't snip off the cchr hate site's url, but somehow have a
problem with http://www.xenu.net http://www.xenu.net http://www.xenu.net
http://www.xenu.net
or for that matter http://www.xenu.net
--
http://BuffaloScientologyInfo.com - http://www.xenu.net
http://PerkinsTragedy.org - http://www.xenutv.net
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
"Church" of Cartoonism
*
* " You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way
you can control anybody is to lie to them."
* -- L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
*
* "...Never discuss Scientology with the critic. Just discuss his or her
crimes, known and unknown. And act completely confident that those crimes
exist...."
* L. Ron Hubbard, "Critics of Scientology", November 5, 1967
*
* "All men shall be my slaves! All women shall succumb to my charms! All
mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!"
- L. Ron Hubbard, "Personal Affirmations"
<desertphile@hot mail.com (David Rice, Esq.)> wrote in message
news:42f7...@news2.lightlink.com...
Do you write "Purity Of Essence" on your notepad alot?
"Lisa Ruby" <Commis...@groupmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123562600....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Oh, people here discuss other people here all the time. If I had a buck
for every post that I saw that was written about somebody else, I could
buy us all lattes in Paris.
I don't think of it as an effort to control the forum and there's no
evidence that blacklisting is involved.
C
What have you done with the real Garry Scarff?
Ever yours in fandom,
Jommy Cross
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>I believe Lisa Ruby is one of the insane >people that inhabit ars.
>I highly recommend you put her in your >killfile and be done with her.
>Otherwise you will probably
>get killfiled by the regulars here for
>constantly replying to someone that is >mentally ill.
If there will be a long-term threat, you are to immediately evaluate
and originate a black PR campaign to destroy the person's repute and to
discredit them so thoroughly that they will be ostracized. (LRH)
I'm not sure if the continual use of the namecalling propaganda
technique constitutes a black ops operation, but an attempt to
discredit and to ostracize fits the bill.
Critics of the CoS (and members of the same) need to be able to
communicate with anyone on this forum without fear of being killfiled
in retaliation.
Lisa Ruby
http://www.libertytothecaptives.net
> What have you done with the real Garry Scarff?
Garry eloped with Marty Rathbun de Rothschild last week to Vermont
where they got married.
They are now spending their honeymoon on a gay cruise in the Caribbean
where Garry intends to whack Marty and throw him overboard to the
sharks, so he can inherit Marty's share of the Rotshchild's millions.
Lisa, no one can control what other people do with their kill files.
Peach
>Lisa, no one can control what other people do with their kill files.
Yet, Lisa makes a very good point. People are free to do whatever they
wish on usenet as to what they will and will not read. But most people
perceive Usenet as a forum for the free exchange of thoughts and
viewpoints without some Jerry Falwell-type trying to dictate who is a
legitimate critic and who is not and should be killfiled.
But it is curious why some critics of Scientology accuse and condemn
the clambots for actions that the very critics themselves are often
guilty of. Spam and using the newgroup as a commercial forum for to
promoting the cult is an entirely different matter.
However - when some conspiracy nut job comes on making tenuous
connections all about some so-called "new world order" which have
nothing to do with scientology or its critics -0 killfiling is indeed
an option. The suggestion that someone be killfiled is made to reduce
the noise ratio on the NG - since there is enough crappola from the
cult and cult related nutjobs the reaction to yet another black
helicopter conspiracy theorist to be kill filed is not surprising.
Kim P
Well people can say who they have in their killfiles, they can make
suggestions as to who to killfile, but that's about as far as it goes.
They can't make anybody killfile anyone. If you spend a lot of time
replying to people who are in a lot of killfiles, you risk being
killfiled yourself, but that's about it.
Peach
>Jommy Cross saith:
>
>> What have you done with the real Garry Scarff?
>
>Garry eloped with Marty Rathbun de Rothschild last week to Vermont
>where they got married.
'k. While you're filling in, could you cut down on the "I'm more moral than
Jerry Falwell" sound?
It just seems a little odd coming from a GarrySock.
btw, who caught the bouquet?
Bad luck for Garry Scarff that Marty would not let him come even
remotely close, and Marty is a lot taller and stronger than rolly polly
Scarff.
Barbara Schwarz
>Bad luck for Garry Scarff that Marty would not let him come even
>remotely close, and Marty is a lot taller and stronger than rolly polly
>Scarff.
Worse luck for delusional Barbara Schwarz because Garry Scarff is real
and Marty is a figment of her mentally disturbed imagination.