I think its time for a review
Mark Bunker
the story with Patricia Greenway saying that the film was partially
funded by the Lisa McPherson Trust (which is not true but was probably
an error on the part of the news producers) and then added that they
no longer wish to be associated with the Lisa McPherson Trust or it's
members.
I'm going to get some sleep now but I think it may be time for an
honest review of the picture and a snapshot of the reactions I got
from the people attending the showing tonight.
See you in the morning.
Roland
It's morning. Wakey, wakey! Well, it's morning over here, anyhow. I'm
not sure that a film like this will ever be received well. People have
too many repressed feelings of guilt and shame about their own religion
and a film like this brings it closer to the surface. Also a film like
this trashes a religion and the people watching know that their own
religions can also be easily trashed. So if it won't appeal to members
of other religions (which is about everybody) then it might appeal to
people like me who are athiest and anti-religion but then I know all
religious leaders are either deluded or scheming murdering scumbags and
they create vicious and evil movements that control people so I've no
need to see a film giving otu a message like that about one
insignificant little religion.
--
"I notice that we all believe that Venus has a methane atmosphere and
is unlivable. I almost got run down by a freight locomotive the other
day -- didn't look very uncivilized to me." - L. Ron Hubbard,
"Between Lives Implants" lecture, SHSBC #317. 23 July 1963.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/rams/Venusloc.ram
Nelson
--
Best Regards = Nelson
"The very basis of human rights is freedom from false accusation and from
brutality and punishment without offense." L. Ron Hubbard
"Man has been defrauded so often, persuaded so wrongly and has returned to
the
same old rut so inevitably and in such a defeated frame of mind that he is
not
able to grasp easily the firm and friendly hand which is being reached
toward
him." -L. Ron Hubbard
"Roland" <roland.rash...@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:3B8757...@virgin.net...
Mark Bunker
Its morning but I'm not fully awake yet.
To be fair, the person quoted by the news anchor was not named as
Patricia Greenway but as "a woman from the movie." I assumed, at the
moment I heard this statement, that the producer of the movie was the
only one who could have issued such a blanket condemnation of their
old friends but it may well have been one of the women on their staff
who said something she shouldn't have to a reporter.
I'm am sure that is now the sentiment at Courage Productions and the
Totally Fun Company. Certainly Peter made that clear when I waved and
said hi as he passed me by yesterday and wouldn't acknowledge my
presence.
Review later.
Deana M. Holmes
news:hk4fot417mi217gja...@4ax.com:
Mark, you expected Peter and Patricia to be nice to you less than a week
after you put an illegal copy of the film on the Web as blackmail
(particularly when you've continually justified your unsavory actions)? And
you expect that Peter and Patricia are going to forget the ongoing Dead
Agenting of Patricia by some members of the Lisa McPherson Trust? I am
simply boggled at your naivete.
Deana
mir...@earthlink.net
Mark Bunker
Holmes) wrote:
I live to boggle you, Deanna.
Mark Bunker
Holmes) wrote:
Oh, and what I really expected was for Peter and Patricia to have
treated Bob Minton better after he gave them a chance no one else
would ever give them at terms they never deserved.
How does he get repaid? With Patricia's back stabbing behavior.
Go figure.
Deana M. Holmes
> I live to boggle you, Deanna.
You also live to consistently misspell my name, apparently. If "Deana" is
too hard to spell, try "Mirele".
Deana
mir...@earthlink.net
Deana M. Holmes
<snip>
> Go figure.
That's right, go figure out why Patricia and Peter might not have anything
to say to you after what you did a week ago. After all, you still haven't
apologized. Despite what you say, what you did for Bob was pure and simple
blackmail (among other things). You didn't even have the spine to tell Bob
no. It's my personal opinion that you gladly did what you did as you did
because you thought you were "striking a blow at the enemy". It's also my
personal opinion that your continual evasion of the issue shows that *at
best* you are ethically compromised. The same goes for your bosses, since
they obviously have condoned your actions.
What I see here from you and some others in the LMT is that if a person is
declared to be an "OSA whore" or "OSA influenced" or similarly tagged as
somehow supporting Scientology, it is open season. Anything is fair game,
and you can drag out all sorts of Dead Agenting in an attempt to smear that
person. This is your justification for the running attacks we have seen
here on people--and I'm not speaking merely of Patricia. It's OK to
badmouth old CAN, for example, because they had an "OSA Whore" (still as
yet unproven, despite all the blustering to the contrary) working for them.
Despite Stacy's protestations to the contrary, she has made it clear
recently that she thinks LMT has done more to help Scientologists than any
other organization.
It's been stated by others but it is worth repeating here: There is a great
risk of becoming what you fight. Unfortunately, I see this among some of
the LMT. It may be that the LMT is doing good work, but I can't see it
from here for what is being dished out in public by some LMT
representatives.
Stop trying to justify your bad actions.
Deana
mir...@earthlink.net
Mark Bunker
Kaeli
nothing.
By the way, when is "The Profit" going to make it to the Great White North
here? If it's not.. please let me know and I won't get my hopes up anymore.
:/
Due to time constraints, I cannot travel to the US to see it.
I mentioned this earlier, and I'll say it again: I wish you would all resolve
your differences away from here. I know you all prefer being open and all,
but I honestly think this type of bickering and fighting is making OSA's day.
I don't mean to offend anyone.. just stating my .0002 cents
Kaeli.
arnie lerma
Holmes) wrote:
>
>What I see here from you and some others in the LMT is that if a person is
>declared to be an "OSA whore" or "OSA influenced" or similarly tagged as
>somehow supporting Scientology, it is open season. Anything is fair game,
Sigh......
Abraham Lincoln said that you can fool some of the people all of
the time....
Whats being fooled have to do with OSA?
OSA & Scientology's few successes depend upon PT Barnum's sage
advice:
There is another one born every day
arnie lerma
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak.
The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers
The internet is the liberty tree of the 90's
http://www.lermanet.com/grifters.htm - mentioned 4 January 2000 in
The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD"
You want Bigots? http://members.home.net/bwarr1/Movie2.html
Mark Bunker
>Hey, people misspell my name all of the time, oftentimes I'm told it means
>nothing.
>By the way, when is "The Profit" going to make it to the Great White North
>here? If it's not.. please let me know and I won't get my hopes up anymore.
>:/
>Due to time constraints, I cannot travel to the US to see it.
>I mentioned this earlier, and I'll say it again: I wish you would all resolve
>your differences away from here. I know you all prefer being open and all,
>but I honestly think this type of bickering and fighting is making OSA's day.
>
>I don't mean to offend anyone.. just stating my .0002 cents
>
>Kaeli.
Don't take it seriously, Kaeli. Deanna loves me.
Mark Bunker
Holmes) wrote:
C'mon, Deanna...you like me.
Admit it.
:0)
Mark Bunker
<markb...@lisatrust.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 05:47:07 GMT, Mark Bunker
><markb...@lisatrust.net> wrote:
>
>>I just watched the Fox 13 newscast on "The Profit" and they concluded
>>the story with Patricia Greenway saying that the film was partially
>>funded by the Lisa McPherson Trust (which is not true but was probably
>>an error on the part of the news producers) and then added that they
>>no longer wish to be associated with the Lisa McPherson Trust or it's
>>members.
>>
>>I'm going to get some sleep now but I think it may be time for an
>>honest review of the picture and a snapshot of the reactions I got
>>from the people attending the showing tonight.
>>
>>See you in the morning.
>
>Its morning but I'm not fully awake yet.
>
>To be fair, the person quoted by the news anchor was not named as
>Patricia Greenway but as "a woman from the movie." I assumed, at the
>moment I heard this statement, that the producer of the movie was the
>only one who could have issued such a blanket condemnation of their
>old friends but it may well have been one of the women on their staff
>who said something she shouldn't have to a reporter.
Well, having just watched the re-run newscast in this mornings
newsblock, I now see that the anchor specifies the person who made
this statement. "The producer of the films says..."
Earlier today, Patricia lied again to Bob, saying that she never said
anything like that.
This is how Patricia repays Bob for giving them the chance to do
something no one else would do with the unlimited control they
obviously didn't deserve.
>I'm am sure that is now the sentiment at Courage Productions and the
>Totally Fun Company. Certainly Peter made that clear when I waved and
>said hi as he passed me by yesterday and wouldn't acknowledge my
>presence.
>
>Review later.
My review has been posted. Its an honest review of the film that I'm
certain they will only see as an attack.
But then Peter told the St. Pete Times, "Listen buddy..." so he
obviously can't accept an honest review.
unusual
markb...@lisatrust.net wrote...
>Earlier today, Patricia lied again to Bob
She did? Were you a witness to this or is this just more paid gossip?
Tommy
>
> In <320gots3oi8lclp6r...@4ax.com>, Mark Bunker
> Bubba, Bubby, etc.
>
> As long as they don't call me late for lunch, what's the big deal?
>
Deana's just in a snit and having trouble getting out of it.
(I told her to get the full-size snit and not the sub-compact snit, but
does anybody listen?)
Tommy
--
A walk down the path of history is crunchy with the crispy corpses of
those who pooh-poohed or ignored the clown car of ridicule when it
pulled-up to the curb.
Stephen Jones
Russ K
The review of a self-proclaimed failed actor really isn't worth
squat---especially when that same S-PFA is predisposed to hate the
movie, has already said it was boring, blah blah blah.
Even if you had LIKED the movie, and found oh, maybe a couple of
positive things to say about it, I still wouldn't find your "review"
credible. Call me skeptical, but I've learned to think for myself.
Besides, the LMT seems pretty dang full of Foxes Claiming The Grapes
Are Sour.
Have there been any movies you Liked? Just wondering which way your
tastes run.
Get over yourself. Hey, who's LaraL?
Mark Bunker
Holmes) wrote:
Sorry dee
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Roland
It's morning. Wakey, wakey! Well, it's morning over here, anyhow. I'm
not sure that a film like this will ever be received well. People have
too many repressed feelings of guilt and shame about their own religion
and a film like this brings it closer to the surface. Also a film like
this trashes a religion and the people watching know that their own
religions can also be easily trashed. So if it won't appeal to members
of other religions (which is about everybody) then it might appeal to
people like me who are athiest and anti-religion but then I know all
religious leaders are either deluded or scheming murdering scumbags and
they create vicious and evil movements that control people so I've no
need to see a film giving otu a message like that about one
insignificant little religion.
--
"I notice that we all believe that Venus has a methane atmosphere and
is unlivable. I almost got run down by a freight locomotive the other
day -- didn't look very uncivilized to me." - L. Ron Hubbard,
"Between Lives Implants" lecture, SHSBC #317. 23 July 1963.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/rams/Venusloc.ram
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Kaeli
nothing.
By the way, when is "The Profit" going to make it to the Great White North
here? If it's not.. please let me know and I won't get my hopes up anymore.
:/
Due to time constraints, I cannot travel to the US to see it.
I mentioned this earlier, and I'll say it again: I wish you would all resolve
your differences away from here. I know you all prefer being open and all,
but I honestly think this type of bickering and fighting is making OSA's day.
I don't mean to offend anyone.. just stating my .0002 cents
Kaeli.
"Deana M. Holmes" wrote:
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arnie lerma
Holmes) wrote:
>
>What I see here from you and some others in the LMT is that if a person is
>declared to be an "OSA whore" or "OSA influenced" or similarly tagged as
>somehow supporting Scientology, it is open season. Anything is fair game,
Sigh......
Abraham Lincoln said that you can fool some of the people all of
the time....
Whats being fooled have to do with OSA?
OSA & Scientology's few successes depend upon PT Barnum's sage
advice:
There is another one born every day
arnie lerma
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak.
The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers
The internet is the liberty tree of the 90's
http://www.lermanet.com/grifters.htm - mentioned 4 January 2000 in
The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD"
You want Bigots? http://members.home.net/bwarr1/Movie2.html
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C'mon, Deanna...you like me.
Admit it.
:0)
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Deana M. Holmes
Mark, you expected Peter and Patricia to be nice to you less than a week
after you put an illegal copy of the film on the Web as blackmail
(particularly when you've continually justified your unsavory actions)? And
you expect that Peter and Patricia are going to forget the ongoing Dead
Agenting of Patricia by some members of the Lisa McPherson Trust? I am
simply boggled at your naivete.
Deana
mir...@earthlink.net
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<snip>
> Go figure.
Deana
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> I live to boggle you, Deanna.
You also live to consistently misspell my name, apparently. If "Deana" is
too hard to spell, try "Mirele".
Deana
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Mark Bunker
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Oh, and what I really expected was for Peter and Patricia to have
treated Bob Minton better after he gave them a chance no one else
would ever give them at terms they never deserved.
How does he get repaid? With Patricia's back stabbing behavior.
Go figure.
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 06:51:36 GMT
Mark Bunker
Holmes) wrote:
I live to boggle you, Deanna.
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 06:52:54 GMT
Mark Bunker
>Hey, people misspell my name all of the time, oftentimes I'm told it means
>nothing.
>By the way, when is "The Profit" going to make it to the Great White North
>here? If it's not.. please let me know and I won't get my hopes up anymore.
>:/
>Due to time constraints, I cannot travel to the US to see it.
>I mentioned this earlier, and I'll say it again: I wish you would all resolve
>your differences away from here. I know you all prefer being open and all,
>but I honestly think this type of bickering and fighting is making OSA's day.
>
>I don't mean to offend anyone.. just stating my .0002 cents
>
>Kaeli.
Don't take it seriously, Kaeli. Deanna loves me.
>"Deana M. Holmes" wrote:
>
>> Mark Bunker <markb...@lisatrust.net> wrote in
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>> > I live to boggle you, Deanna.
>>
>> You also live to consistently misspell my name, apparently. If "Deana" is
>> too hard to spell, try "Mirele".
>>
>> Deana
>> mir...@earthlink.net
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 06:43:04 GMT
Mark Bunker
wrote:
Thanks for asking, Russ. I enjoyed "The Others" last week. "Memento"
was another film I can recommend.
Here's some of my favorites in no particular order.
Citizen Kane
Touch of Evil
Magnificent Ambersons
Chimes at Midnight
Henry V (Branaugh)
Remains of the Day
Howard's End
Rambling Rose
Cinema Paradiso
Jean de Florette
Manon of the Springs
Mr. Hulot's Holiday
Mon Oncle
Playtime
Traffic (Tati)
The Kid
The Circus
The Gold Rush
City Lights
Modern Times
The Great Dictator
7 Chances
Way Out West
Sons of the Desert
The Bank Dick
It's a Gift
Horse Feathers
Duck Soup
A Night at the Opera
Road to Morocco
Road to Bali
Road to Utopia
Son of Paleface
The Country Girl
It's a Wonderful Life
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
Mr. Deeds Goes to Town
A Foreign Affair
Sunset Blvd.
The Apartment
Some Like it Hot
The 39 Steps
Strangers on a Train
Rear Window
Vertigo
North by Northwest
Psycho
Frenzy
Body Double
Dressed to Kill
Sisters
Carrie
The Shining
The Mouse that Roared
A Shot in the Dark
The Pink Panther Strikes Again
Murder By Death
The Sunshine Boys
High Noon
Stagecoach
Red River
Glory
Sleeper
Love and Death
Annie Hall
Stardust Memories
Hannah and her Sisters
Crimes and Misdemeanors
Everyone Says I Love You
Deconstructing Harry
Broadcast News
Real Life
Lost in America
My Man Godfrey (William Powell version)
Easy Living (Jean Arthur)
Cabaret
The Music Man
Singing in the Rain
The Bandwagon
The Wizard of Oz
Top Hat
Shall We Dance
Swing Time
Follow the Fleet
The Little Shop Around the Corner
When Harry Met Sally
The Little Shop of Horrors (Frank Oz version)
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Aliens
Close Encounters
Day the Earth Stood Still
Forbidden Planet
The Haunting (Robert Wise version)
Bride of Frankenstein
Young Frankenstein
Blazing Saddles
The Producers
Private Parts
This is Spinal Tap
Princess Bride
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Jaws
Empire Strikes Back
Robocop
Time Bandits
Tremors
Matrix
Pleasantville
Untouchables
Andromeda Strain
Dawn of the Dead
12 Monkeys
Seven
Seven Percent Solution
Die Hard
Sixth Sense
Slaughterhouse Five
Silence of the Lambs
Theater of Blood
American Graffiti
American Beauty
American Movie
Brother's Keeper
Crumb
Muriel's Wedding
In the Realm of the Senses
Amadeus
Animal House
The Blob (Steve McQueen version)
Avalon
Tin Men
Glengarry Glen Ross
World According to Garp
Time After Time
A Few Choices from the Relatively Recent Past:
Best of Show
Waiting for Guffman
Chocolate
Boogie Nights
Big Night
Elizabeth
Bowfinger
Cider House Rules
Dancer in the Dark
Shakespeare in Love
South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut
Election
Quills
Living Out Loud
Traffic
Wonder Boys
Spanish Prisoner
State and Main
A Simple Plan
Shawshank Redemption
Rushmore
The Contender
Of course, this list is a random sample of some of my favorites that
quickly came to mind. I'm sure later tonight I'll think "how could I
have forgotten..."
I hope this is helpful to you.
Mark Bunker
<markb...@lisatrust.net> wrote:
How could I have forgotten...
Nurse Betty
Finding Forrester
Almost Famous
Requiem for a Dream
and many more...
The Exorcist
The Godfather 2
and on and on and on
"El Roto"
snip
>
> Here's some of my favorites in no particular order.
snip again
Well, if I ever get to Clearwater, we're gonna watch some flixs. I was
going to comment on your list, but suffice to say many of my favorites are
in it (although you did leave out "Tank Girl" - I'm sure it was an
oversight. <g>)
Steve "Former Projectionist" G.