Project DoD, hosting company of the likes of Larry Sarner (voting
machine scam artrist), Linda Rosa (she who followed Sarner into
bankruptcy) and Jean Mercer (the psychologist who never treated a
patient) lost their "landmark reverse DMCA" case.
What are they going to do now, invent the iPigno, a device that
refuses to read the works of Charles Sanders Peirce, Claude Levi-
Strauss, and Stanislaw Lem?
Attorneys Rufus Brown, Robert Mittel, and Tiffany Rad are
reconsidering the wisdom of believing everything Christopher Mooney
tells them…
<snip>
Keep making this kind of post and your lovely wife will think you've got
a crush on a certain person. By the way, does she know about this hobby
of yours?
Peach
--
Extra! Extra! Read All About It!
Save some dough, save some grief:
http://www.xenu.net
http://www.scientology-lies.com
For people who are actually interested in the facts of this case, the
documents are all available here. This should be of interest to people
on ARS, as it involves freedom of speech on the internet and details
harassment that has occurred. The case was only dismissed due to an
issue of jurisdiction, not because DoD was wrong. Documents can be
downloaded people can read about the facts of this case at:
So yes, this particular battle has been lost but at least attention
has been brought to this important issue and the war for free speech
on the internet is far from over, rest assured.
================================
[REPLY]
You're a proven censorship advocate, Monica. You actively engage in
censorship. Stop being such a hypocrite.
--
Gregory Hall
they hired Edna Flan to appeal the ruling. She's in tight with all the
Supreme Court Justices except Sotomayer
Wrong. My protesting your abusive misappropriation of my image by
requesting a private website to remove it is not "censorship". I did
not misuse or even evoke DMCA. It is not the same thing at all. The
private website made the decision to remove your abuse of my image,
something they had every right to do. It is not the same thing at all.
Free speech does not include a right to abuse and harass, as you seem
to think it does.
WOW! I don't fucking care!
No, this has nothing to do with Scientology. It has to do with abuses
of DMCA by certain psychologists who were criticized on the internet
and then filed bogus DMCA complaints against the website that posted
perfectly legal, fair use quotes. The lawsuit was only dismissed on a
jurisdictional issue, not because the DMCA complaints were found to be
valid because they weren't and the website remains up.
The court documents are posted on ARS and other places because I know
that many people on the usenet care about these sorts of issues. If
you don't, then feel free to ignore it.
=================================
What about the many parody sites with the Pignotron you whined and
complained about and hollered abuse? You got those shut down just because
the squeaky wheel gets the grease. That is censorship pure. Poor wittle
Monica. Act like she's got her wittle feelings hurt so run to Daddy and bawl
your wittle eyes out and get it made all better. You really ARE pathetic.
You never grew up.
Your definition of abuse and harassment is paranoid delusional, victim
mentality pure and simple. How thick is your skin. Probably less than a
nanometer (less than one billionth of an inch - sort of like your reneging
on your one billion year contract.)
--
Gregory Hall
>What about the many parody sites with the Pignotron you whined and
>complained about and hollered abuse? You got those shut down just because
>the squeaky wheel gets the grease. That is censorship pure. Poor wittle
>Monica. Act like she's got her wittle feelings hurt so run to Daddy and bawl
>your wittle eyes out and get it made all better. You really ARE pathetic.
>You never grew up.
>
>Your definition of abuse and harassment is paranoid delusional, victim
>mentality pure and simple. How thick is your skin. Probably less than a
>nanometer (less than one billionth of an inch - sort of like your reneging
>on your one billion year contract.)
sci.math and rec.food.cooking
You're a massive crossposting troll and a moron.
Like most massive crossposting trolls, the fact that you crosspost and
troll kind of reflects that you realize that nobody really gives a
crap what you have to say.
So you'll do -anything- to draw attention to yourself.
Pathetic.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
>does this mean that if there was no wine in france (and no consommers
>of) the graet revolution could have be done since a long time ?
No, if there were no wine in france you'd be belgium.
:: Currently listening to Der Tod und Das M�dchen: Allegro, 1826, by Schubert, from "Schubert. Forellen-Quintet. St"
Yes, about as pathetic as somebody who says he doesn't give a crap but then
take the time to type it and post it.
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--
Gregory Hall
None of those were DMCA complaints. Free speech does not give people
the right to make libelous statements about others. It was not a
"parody" and anyone who sees the huge volume of personal attacks on me
can readily see that it was not a "parody" -- it was part of a
malicious smear campaign against people who are taking a stand against
abusive quack therapies and anyone who actually looks at what has been
done to me on the internet can readily see that it is not paranoia on
my part to call it that. You wouldn't know anything about taking a
real stand for something, Neal, because you don't care about anything
-- all you do is troll and make ugly, misogynist comments and then
scream "Censorship!!!" when moderators delete you. And no, I don't
"bawl". I stand up for myself and that's what drives you absolutely
nuts, Neal. A strong woman who refuses to take abuse who refuses to
submit to misogynist creeps such as yourself.
There is nothing even remotely similar to the DMCA case I am
discussing where fair use quotes were used to expose abusive
therapists, very different from the abusive, libelous smear campaign
directed against those who do that. I have never, in my life, ever
filed a DMCA complaint against anyone. You're just upset, Neal,
because the moderator on Indymedia deleted your misogynistic comments.
I did not complain to her about you. She initiated that because she
was disgusted by you and people have every right to delete any
comments they so choose from their own websites and that's what the
moderator of Indymedia chose to do. Deleting a comment from one's own
website is not "censorship". People have the right to have on their
websites whatever material they choose to and delete whatever they
choose to and the Indymedia moderator chose to delete your disgusting
comments about me because she considered them misogynistic. Again,
that was her call that she made, not mine.
Face it, Neal, your behavior is a big turn off to many women. You
should take Barbara Schwartz's advice and write a book, 101 ways to
turn off Women. I'm sure it would sell very well. You are an ugly
human being, Neal Warren and I can see that now that you don't have
Barbara Schwartz to respond to you seem to be shifting your attacks to
me. Well no more, because from no on I am going to ignore you too.
Barbara had the right idea here, ignoring you. I expect that when I
stop responding to you, your ugly obsessions will switch to someone
else. Whoever he switches to, my advice is to not respond to him.
Your arguement with your girlfreind Miss Pinenutz doesnt belong
anywhere but ARS
====================================
Indymedia????? Never heard of it.
--
Gregory Hall
> On Jan 4, 4:26�pm, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:
>> "Monica Pignotti" <pigno...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:94bf9c54-8a32-4b95...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com
>> > [REPLY]
>>
>> > You're a proven censorship advocate, Monica. You actively engage in
>> > censorship. Stop being such a hypocrite.
>>
>> > --
>> > Gregory Hall
>>
>> Wrong. My protesting your abusive misappropriation of my image by
>> requesting a private website to remove it is not "censorship". I did
>> not misuse or even evoke DMCA. It is not the same thing at all. The
>> private website made the decision to remove your abuse of my image,
>> something they had every right to do. It is not the same thing at
>> all. Free speech does not include a right to abuse and harass, as you
>> seem to think it does.
>>
>> ========================
> ========>
>> What about the many parody sites with the Pignotron you whined and
>> complained about and hollered abuse? You got those shut down just
>> because the squeaky wheel gets the grease. That is censorship pure.
>> Poor wittle Monica. Act like she's got her wittle feelings hurt so
>> run to Daddy and b
> awl
>> your wittle eyes out and get it made all better. You really ARE
>> pathetic. You never grew up.
>>
>> Your definition of abuse and harassment is paranoid delusional,
>> victim mentality pure and simple. �How thick is your skin. Probably
>> less than
> a
>> nanometer (less than one billionth of an inch - sort of like your
>> renegin
> g
>> on your one billion year contract.)
>>
>
> None of those were DMCA complaints. Free speech does not give people
> the right to make libelous statements about others.
<snip/>
In fact, this is *exactly* a right that free speech endows. That is, the
government does not in general criminalize defamatory speech. (I say,
"in general" because of the disgraceful criminal libel statutes still on
the books in some states.) That doesn't mean that libelous statements
may be made with impunity. The target may make the libeler sorry by
taking him to civil court and winning a judgment for his harmful words.
But one's words alone aren't supposed to expose one to criminal
sanctions.
Miss Pinenutz? Could you be referring to one Monica Pignotti perchance?
Why, I wouldn't let a skank like her within a mile of me let alone take her
as a girlfriend. Just how desperate do you think I am? Besides, I'm just
not into bestiality, ya know.
--
Gregory Hall
>"Zapanaz" <http://joecosby.com/code/mai...@foo.com> wrote in message
>news:4ao4k5pms1gip8ls5...@4ax.com...
>> sci.math and rec.food.cooking
>>
>> You're a massive crossposting troll and a moron.
>>
>> Like most massive crossposting trolls, the fact that you crosspost and
>> troll kind of reflects that you realize that nobody really gives a
>> crap what you have to say.
>>
>> So you'll do -anything- to draw attention to yourself.
>>
>>
>> Pathetic.
>
>
>Yes, about as pathetic as somebody who says he doesn't give a crap but then
>take the time to type it and post it.
>
I didn't say that.
I said you were a crossposting moron and an attention whore.
><original groups restored>
Why is that, exactly? Why are you posting this to rec.food.cooking?
Do you think somebody there would have some interest in it?
Or do you just have a desperate and pathetic need to draw negative
attention to yourself?
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
swallow a live poodle, then puke it back up again. It's really
cleansing.
:: Currently listening to Ain't Too Proud to Beg, 1966, by The Temptations, from "Gettin' Ready"
>On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:17:08 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake>
>wrote:
>
>>"Zapanaz" <http://joecosby.com/code/mai...@foo.com> wrote in message
>>news:4ao4k5pms1gip8ls5...@4ax.com...
>
>>> sci.math and rec.food.cooking
>>>
>>> You're a massive crossposting troll and a moron.
>>>
>>> Like most massive crossposting trolls, the fact that you crosspost and
>>> troll kind of reflects that you realize that nobody really gives a
>>> crap what you have to say.
>>>
>>> So you'll do -anything- to draw attention to yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Pathetic.
>>
>>
>>Yes, about as pathetic as somebody who says he doesn't give a crap but then
>>take the time to type it and post it.
>>
>
>I didn't say that.
>
>I said you were a crossposting moron and an attention whore.
>
>><original groups restored>
>
>Why is that, exactly? Why are you posting this to rec.food.cooking?
>
>Do you think somebody there would have some interest in it?
>
>Or do you just have a desperate and pathetic need to draw negative
>attention to yourself?
Gregory Hall is living in denial ever since Barbara Schwartz DENIED
his romantic overtures.
I'm sure she'll have a change of heart any time now.
<groups restored> because one Monica Pignotti cross-posted to all these
groups and all I did was reply to her post.
Message-ID:
<94bf9c54-8a32-4b95...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
I don't believe in culling groups out of a discussion thread - that's
censorship. Go ply your censorship someplace else please.
--
Gregory Hall
>
><groups restored> because one Monica Pignotti cross-posted to all these
>groups and all I did was reply to her post.
>Message-ID:
><94bf9c54-8a32-4b95...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
>
>
> I don't believe in culling groups out of a discussion thread - that's
>censorship. Go ply your censorship someplace else please.
Not posting a scientology thread to rec.food.cooking, where it's
obviously completely irrelevant, is censorship?
When you had your brain surgically removed, did you get a lot of
headaches afterwards? I've heard that can be a side-effect.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"Bob" means never having to say "Huh?"
:: Currently listening to The Mission (Gabriel's Theme), 2002, by Ennio Morricone, from "Itinerary Of A Genius"
>On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 18:28:31 -0500, "Gregory Hall" <greg...@home.fake>
>wrote:
>
>>
>><groups restored> because one Monica Pignotti cross-posted to all these
>>groups and all I did was reply to her post.
>>Message-ID:
>><94bf9c54-8a32-4b95...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
>>
>>
>> I don't believe in culling groups out of a discussion thread - that's
>>censorship. Go ply your censorship someplace else please.
>
>Not posting a scientology thread to rec.food.cooking, where it's
>obviously completely irrelevant, is censorship?
>
>When you had your brain surgically removed, did you get a lot of
>headaches afterwards? I've heard that can be a side-effect.
WORD!
By your same arguement I can interrupt your favorite televison show
and brutally assfuck a blow up jesus doll with a huge glowing purple
strap on that was dipped in grade jelly whilst singing the national
anthem and replacing every other word with Gregory Hall loves the cock
and if you complain you are censoring my freespeech.
After all culling inappropriate content off your favorite channel is
not something you belive in right?
>Your arguement with your girlfreind Miss Pinenutz doesnt belong
>anywhere but ARS
It doesn't belong here either. She just needs an sympathetic audience
for her whining. And she thinks because ars has many free-speech
advocates they will be interested in her plight.
But she's a troll-magnet.
D
----------------
"At this point, if we could go back in time and get rid of the internet
altogether, I would be all for it." - Professor Monica Pignotti (Nov 2009)
Too bad some people, when they participate in Usenet discussion, feel they
must check their brains at the door.
Monica Pignotti posted this post:
Message-ID:
<94bf9c54-8a32-4b95...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
To the following groups:
Newsgroups:
alt.religion.scientology,sci.math,misc.legal,alt.slack,rec.food.cooking
It is her right to post to whatever groups she feels appropriate for her
thread. You are setting yourself up as judge, jury and executioner by
arbitrarily trying to control in which groups follow-ups to her original
post appear. You are a net-nanny. You are pathetic.
You are totally ignorant on Usenet protocol and are in the wrong with
respect to Usenet standard operating procedure. You are a closed-minded,
ignorant and insufferable moron. Stop your whining and try getting a clue
for once.
>Monica Pignotti posted this post:
>
>Message-ID:
><94bf9c54-8a32-4b95...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
>
>To the following groups:
>
>Newsgroups:
>alt.religion.scientology,sci.math,misc.legal,alt.slack,rec.food.cooking
>
>It is her right to post to whatever groups she feels appropriate for her
>thread. You are setting yourself up as judge, jury and executioner by
>arbitrarily trying to control in which groups follow-ups to her original
>post appear. You are a net-nanny. You are pathetic.
>
>You are totally ignorant on Usenet protocol and are in the wrong with
>respect to Usenet standard operating procedure. You are a closed-minded,
>ignorant and insufferable moron. Stop your whining and try getting a clue
>for once.
>
><groups restored>
Not posting a scientology thread to rec.food.cooking, where it's
obviously completely irrelevant, is censorship?
When you had your brain surgically removed, did you get a lot of
headaches afterwards? I've heard that can be a side-effect.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"Your explanations are pure weapons-grade Balonium!"
- "Futurama"
:: Currently listening to Busy Working, 1999, by Plone, from "For Beginner Piano"
Nothing forces people who aren't interested to read the post. Duh! If the
subject line indicates that the post has nothing to do with cooking food,
for example, why would they bother opening the post? But, there might be
some who are interested after seeing the subject line and they might wish to
follow the thread. When assholes such as yourself keep culling groups it
makes it difficult for them to follow the thread. Get a clue and stop trying
to be a net nanny. If you don't want to see my posts then use a filter.
Moron!
<original groups restored>
--
Gregory Hall