IRAQ new scieno mission?
Tom Klemesrud
Secretary of Defense today.
I'M sure Gates has new ideas of how to deal with the insurgency in
Iraq--possibly with a new insurgency of super-human people who can leave
their bodies and check if the garbage on the side of the road is really
garbage, or a road-side bomb. This is just one example how our
insugents can help--
http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/yugoslavia-index.htm
[...]
Gates is remembered in the CIA as the originator of the idea that
communism and especially Eastern Orthodoxy be attacked with infiltration
by pro-Western sects. Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Church of Scientology
are two political-intelligence organizations which succeeded in
penetrating into the societies of Russia, Rumania and Yugoslavia.
[...]
3 months, 9 mouths, 2 years? No, these soldiers will serve for a
billion years, with no pay.
Lermanet.com
<tom...@netscape.delete.net> wrote:
Maybe the US should send all of the Scientologists to IRAQ... as a
test of super duper oh tea powerz!!
I hope DM doesnt just send those who have the dirt on him to Iraq,
like he may currently do to those who offers "promotions" to one of
those underground CST repositorys...
What concerns this 12 activist is that we have not one escapee from
CST.
And some of those mineshafts go down for thousands of feet...
And there are already the bones of the indian slaves they use to pay
in equal weight of raisens for gold nuggests.. when it was an
operating gold rush mine...
Arnie Lerma
Tom Klemesrud
> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:28:10 -0700, Tom Klemesrud
> <tom...@netscape.delete.net> wrote:
>
> Maybe the US should send all of the Scientologists to IRAQ... as a
> test of super duper oh tea powerz!!
>
> I hope DM doesnt just send those who have the dirt on him to Iraq,
> like he may currently do to those who offers "promotions" to one of
> those underground CST repositorys...
>
> What concerns this 12 activist is that we have not one escapee from
> CST.
>
> And some of those mineshafts go down for thousands of feet...
>
> And there are already the bones of the indian slaves they use to pay
> in equal weight of raisens for gold nuggests.. when it was an
> operating gold rush mine...
>
> Arnie Lerma
There at 10 millions scientologists worldwide. It would not be too much
for Gates to ask for 1 million of them to report to Bagdad. After all,
it seems, that it was Gates at the CIA (1991-1993) that brokered the
cult's IRS tax exemption. (Why else would the justice department not
answer questions about it, because of "national security.)
Listen, Iraq is a big problem for us. I think we should use our best
weapons. The scieno's should be proud to serve. After all, we tax
payers have already paid for their future service in Iraq.
Gerry Armstrong
<tom...@netscape.delete.net> wrote:
>Well Robert Gates, former CIA director replaced Donald Rumfield as
>Secretary of Defense today.
>
>I'M sure Gates has new ideas of how to deal with the insurgency in
>Iraq--possibly with a new insurgency of super-human people who can leave
>their bodies and check if the garbage on the side of the road is really
>garbage, or a road-side bomb. This is just one example how our
>insugents can help--
>
>http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/yugoslavia-index.htm
>[...]
>Gates is remembered in the CIA as the originator of the idea that
>communism and especially Eastern Orthodoxy be attacked with infiltration
>by pro-Western sects. Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Church of Scientology
>are two political-intelligence organizations which succeeded in
>penetrating into the societies of Russia, Rumania and Yugoslavia.
>[...]
And don't forget Elliott Abrams as Chairman of the U.S. Commission on
International Religious Freedom.
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0209-22.htm
As the Scientology v. Armstrong case demonstrates, the U.S.'s
International Religious Freedom Act purpose is, overtly and covertly,
U.S. hegemony. It does not promote religious freedom and does not
stand against religious persecution. It supports the persecutors in
their campaign to suppress and destroy basic human rights including
freedom of religion.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode22/usc_sec_22_00006401----000-.html
>
>3 months, 9 mouths, 2 years? No, these soldiers will serve for a
>billion years, with no pay.
© Gerry Armstrong
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org
Feisty
"Tom Klemesrud" <tom...@netscape.delete.net> wrote in message
news:45527619$1...@news2.lightlink.com...
> Well Robert Gates, former CIA director replaced Donald Rumfield as Secretary of
> Defense today.
>
> I'M sure Gates has new ideas of how to deal with the insurgency in Iraq--possibly
> with a new insurgency of super-human people who can leave their bodies and check if
> the garbage on the side of the road is really garbage, or a road-side bomb. This is
> just one example how our insugents can help--
>
> http://www.anti-scientologie.ch/yugoslavia-index.htm
> [...]
> Gates is remembered in the CIA as the originator of the idea that communism and
> especially Eastern Orthodoxy be attacked with infiltration by pro-Western sects.
> Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Church of Scientology are two political-intelligence
> organizations which succeeded in penetrating into the societies of Russia, Rumania
> and Yugoslavia.
> [...]
Romania (Rumania)
http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/gunlawsuits/ussolomonyah31505ind.pdf
...COLPANI stated that he had one “Romanian” and one “Bulgarian”with him (referring to
two types of firearms that COLPANI had received from DEMARE).
...Sporter, recovered in California on or about November 8, 2004, both of which were
provided to SOLOMONYAN and SPIES by GEVORGYAN and ABRAMIAN; (vii) an AK-47 made by GN
Romarm SA/Cugir in Romania,
...(i) an AK-47 made by GN Romarm SA/Cugir in Romania;
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/scientology-weapons-smuggler.htm
Solomonyan entered the United States six years ago on a cultural exchange visa claiming
he was a religious worker for the Church of Scientology, according to law enforcement
officials, also speaking on condition of anonymity.
>
> 3 months, 9 mouths, 2 years? No, these soldiers will serve for a billion years, with
> no pay.
Feisty
phil scott
> "Tom Klemesrud"
nice thread....
phil scott
OSASpammer
You raise an interesting question. How many scientologists are
actually involved in CST and the vault project? My impression was that
CST was similar to the Watchdog Committee, just an indicator of where
the real power lies, composed of a very few executives. The vault
project I expect is done entirely by outside contractors. Cause over
MEST has never seemed to include ability to operate big yellow
machinery, that I've noticed. I guess what I'm saying is that the
people who are in CST who might have blown are limited pretty much to
Warren and Marty. Perhaps LeSavre or some of the others who used to be
known as high level executives and have now disappeared, would have
been involved in that.
Susan
"Tom Klemesrud" <tom...@netscape.delete.net> wrote in message
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Not to mention, the beautification of the country with all of those yellow
Volunteer Ministers Tents.
Whoa, fashion forward, could the Iraqis possibly be ready for such a
sweeping change?
Susan
Tom Klemesrud
And it is you and I and others who have to suffer in our home country
for this poor charade--that everyone knows about.
I think, I took the blood attack on me, and the civil lawsuit, for the
benefit of my country.
more-
APn 12/24 0000 Religion Today
Copyright, 1994. The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
By DAVID BRIGGS
Associated Press Writer
Unification Church groups in the Baltics are offering language lessons
to attract converts, while Hare Krishnas reportedly now have more members
in Hungary than the United States.
New religious movements and sects have established footholds in eastern
Europe, but their influence may be measured more in terms of the backlash
they have engendered than converts won.
Traditional religious groups that suffered under communist oppression
are trying to solidify their privileged position in the new era of
religious freedom. Although conservative Christian missionaries are
reporting the greatest success in converting eastern Europeans, it is
religious sects and cults who have made easy targets for groups lobbying
for laws to limit religious freedom in several east European countries,
according to two scholars who have traveled throughout the region.
"The visibility and fear is put on the new religious movements, who are
really statistically insignificant," said Eileen Barker of the London
School of Economics. "Nobody gets any bad points for attacking cults.
They're really fair game."
Barker and J. Gordon Melton, director of the Institute for the Study of
American Religion in Santa Barbara, Calif., addressed a recent seminar of
the American Academy of Religion on new religious movements.
Groups from the Church of Scientology to Hare Krishnas are trying to
take advantage of the new religious freedom to spread their teachings
throughout eastern Europe, they said in interviews.
In a recent trip, Barker observed that several groups are offering
people ways to succeed in capitalist ventures as a means of attracting new
members.
For example, she said, Church of Scientology groups offer communication
courses and Unification Church groups offer language lessons and trips to
the West to potential converts in Russia and the Baltics.
But while there are no hard numbers, researchers say, new religious
movements seem to be having little success.
Some eastern Europeans are taking advantage of the classes offered and
then are returning to their traditional religious homes. And critics of
many new religious movements, helped by anticult organizations from the
West, have left many eastern Europeans forewarned, Barker said.
"On the whole, they're not particularly interested," Barker said. "They
know the cults are bad, and that's got through to them."
The groups that are successful are evangelical Christian organizations
who are flooding eastern Europe with missionaries. Researchers report
massive revivals, large churches being built and some evangelists, in a
strategy used successfully in the United States, taking to the airwaves.
Some 40 million Bibles have been distributed in Russia alone, Melton
said. Among the groups doing well, there may be as many as tens of
thousands of Pentecostals in eastern Europe, he said. Baptists also have
been particularly successful.
In another sign of the times, 3,000 Russians became Jehovah's Witnesses
in a mass baptism.
But the flood of foreign missionaries is not sitting well with religious
groups who struggled to survive during the years of socialist rule. Many
groups emerged weak, disorganized and badly financed, and argue members
should not be stolen from them by better-financed groups from outside.
"We should have the first chance of regaining our faithful" is the claim
made by faiths native to the region, Barker said.
In Russia, Russian Orthodox leaders have been trying to restore the
church's traditional role as one of the main pillars of society. Patriarch
Alexy II, head of the church, administered the oath of office when Boris
Yeltsin was sworn in as Russia's first president in June 1991, and it has
become common practice for the patriarch to bless major political events,
including praying for success at U.S.-Russian summits.
The "turf war" is evident in part in legislation that would limit
religious freedom in various stages of consideration in Armenia, Russia,
Hungary, Poland and Romania.
In Hungary, legislation is being considered to change the religious
registration laws to limit the apportionment of state taxes for religion to
groups that have been in the country for a certain length of time.
"There's not only resentment, but there's money at stake," Melton said.
In Russia, President Yeltsin forced lawmakers to drop the idea of a
total ban on foreign missionaries, but parliament passed a law in the
summer that would have granted the Ministry of Justice the right to deny
permission for foreign religious groups to operate if they engage in
"coercive" proselytizing or "offend the religious feelings of Russain
citizens." In part because of an appeal from President Clinton, Yeltsin did
not sign the legislation.
If they are not outlawed, Melton said, the future is bright for
evangelists in eastern Europe.
In a nationwide poll in Russia, 22 percent of all respondents, and
nearly a third of Russians under age 25, said they once were atheists but
now believe in God.
Atheists, once officially approved of throughout eastern Europe, are
keeping a low profile.
"Generally speaking, it's more PC to be Christian," said Barker, former
president of the Society for the Scientific Study of Religion.
But the denominations that are politically correct change from country
to country. And in part fueled by anticult sentiment, the windows of
religious freedom only recently thrown wide open after decades of communist
repression may be in danger of closing soon, scholars say.
Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the nationalist leader whose party was the top
vote getter in Russia's Dec. 12 parliamentary elections, has called for
Russian Orthodoxy to have a "dominating position" in Russia.
"We can see the hands on the window right now," Melton said. "In Russia
the hands almost fell before Clinton intervened."
End advance for release Fri AMs, Dec. 24, and thereafter
Tom Klemesrud
And here we see the Gates CIA in action using the cult out of Saint Hill
in the UK--