Auditing = hypnosis so this is why its easy to manipulate a CO$ member
Ramona
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161066,00.html
How does hypnosis work? It may lull brain areas into going along with
suggestions made during hypnosis.
That theory was tested in a new hypnosis study. In the project,
researchers used brain scans to watch the brain under the influence of
hypnosis.
The experiment was done at Cornell University's medical school. The
findings appear in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Read WebMD's "Hypnosis Goes Mainstream"
Hypnosis Study
Participants were 16 healthy young adults. Some were more influenced by
hypnosis than others.
They had a seemingly simple task. Their job: Identify the color of a
word on a computer screen.
The catch: The words were names of colors typed in a mismatched color.
For instance, the word "green" might have appeared in red.
It's a classic brain-teaser used in mental studies.
Under hypnosis, subjects were told that their chore would be a breeze.
They would have no problem reading the color names correctly, they were
told.
That proved true for those who took to hypnosis best. Those who
weren't as suggestible took about 10 percent longer to name the
colors.
Read WebMD's "Better Hypnosis Success for Male Smokers"
Why the Brain Believed It
Specialized MRI brain scans showed less activity in two areas of the
hypnotized brain.
The first area is involved in visual processing. The other may be
important in handling conflicts, say the researchers.
That could mean that the brains of highly hypnotizable people were more
accepting of the instructions, say Michael Posner, PhD, and colleagues.
Posner worked on the study. He is a professor emeritus of psychology at
the University of Oregon and an adjunct professor at Cornell
University's Weill Medical College.
The researchers say that these results could also help explain the
power of suggestion under other circumstances. For instance, what
effect does the placebo effect -- where people get benefit from a
medical treatment (for example, a sugar pill) purely because they think
it's going to help - have on the brain?
Read WebMD's "Hypnosis for Pain"
By Miranda Hitti, reviewed by Michael W. Smith, MD
SOURCES: Raz, A. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, early
edition. News release, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Spacetraveler
hypnosis. The rules for auditing are making this an absolute impossibility.
You need to be sessionable (having had a good nightsleep, wellfed and
various). Any drugs are forbidden while receiving auditing.
Well Ramona, you think you know something. However you have already
displayed no interested to find out or verify. Not where it concerns
Einstein nor anything else as it appears.
Ramona = (ingredients) a conviction, then collect some data while surfing on
the Internet, next step is to associate for the readers, last step it to
present it.
Spacetraveler
"Ramona" <atlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120074736.3...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Ramona
which I corrected. You were clearly wrong as even simple surfing, has
proven. I would prefer you would have read a good book with the
information, but realize that some people avoid facts.
I have read and verified. You don't, which you have shown, using
Einstein as the example. I hyperlink because of the mode of
communication being used. The fact remains you believed urban legend
as truth and won't admit it.
I am familiar with the "rules" of auditing, including being well fed
and etc. This doesn't change the fact that auditing is a light hyposis
and the person receiving the hypnosis is prone to suggestion, even if
well fed and not on drugs.
Ramona
xenu.net
www.lisamaspherson.org
Spacetraveler
> You are the one that stated incorrect information regarding Einstein,
> which I corrected.
Do you really want to become the laughing stock? There are people around
here who in fact have studied these things in great detail. Get a good
biography.
> You were clearly wrong as even simple surfing, has
> proven.
How?
> I would prefer you would have read a good book with the
> information, but realize that some people avoid facts.
>
> I have read and verified. You don't, which you have shown, using
> Einstein as the example. I hyperlink because of the mode of
> communication being used. The fact remains you believed urban legend
> as truth and won't admit it.
Be delusional as much as you want about it.
>
> I am familiar with the "rules" of auditing, including being well fed
> and etc. This doesn't change the fact that auditing is a light hyposis
> and the person receiving the hypnosis is prone to suggestion, even if
> well fed and not on drugs.
Are you mad? It is not possible. I've practiced psychotherapy (Assagioli
amongst other), and am familiar with auditing practices. Dear girl you
reason like a little girl without a head...
My God, save me from this kind of ignorancy...
Spacetraveler (see below)
THE AUDITOR'S CODE
In celebration of the 100% gains attainable by Standard Tech, I hereby
promise as an auditor to follow the Auditor's Code.
1. I promise not to evaluate for the preclear or tell him what he should
think about his case in session.
2. I promise not to invalidate the preclear's case or gains in or out of
session.
3. I promise to administer only Standard Tech to a preclear in the standard
way.
4. I promise to keep all auditing appointments once made.
5. I promise not to process a preclear who has not had sufficient rest and
who is physically tired.
6. I promise not to process a preclear who is improperly fed or hungry.
7. I promise not to permit a frequent change of auditors.
8. I promise not to sympathize with a preclear but to be effective.
9. I promise not to let the preclear end session on his own determinism but
to finish off those cycles I have begun.
10. I promise never to walk off from a preclear in session.
11. I promise never to get angry with a preclear in session.
12. I promise to run every major case action to a floating needle.
13. I promise never to run any one action beyond its floating needle.
14. I promise to grant beingness to the preclear in session.
15. I promise not to mix the processes of Scientology with other practices
except when the preclear is physically ill and only medical means will
serve.
16. I promise to maintain communication with the preclear and not to cut
his comm or permit him to overrun in session.
17. I promise not to enter comments, expressions or enturbulence into a
session that distract a preclear from his case.
18. I promise to continue to give the preclear the process or auditing
command when needed in the session.
19. I promise not to let a preclear run a wrongly understood command.
20. I promise not to explain, justify or make excuses in session for any
auditor mistakes whether real or imagined.
21. I promise to estimate the current case state of a preclear only by
standard Case Supervision data and not to diverge because of some imagined
difference in the case.
22. I promise never to use the secrets of a preclear divulged in session
for punishment or personal gain.
23. I promise to see that any fee received for processing is refunded if
the preclear is dissatisfied and demands it within three months after the
processing, the only condition being that he may not again be processed or
trained.
24. I promise not to advocate Scientology only to cure illness or only to
treat the insane, knowing well it was intended for spiritual gain.
25. I promise to cooperate fully with the legal organizations of Dianetics
and Scientology as developed by L. Ron Hubbard in safeguarding the ethical
use and practice of the subject according to the basics of Standard Tech.
26. I promise to refuse to permit any being to be physically injured,
violently damaged, operated on or killed in the name of "mental treatment."
27. I promise not to permit sexual liberties or violation of the mentally
unsound.
28. I promise to refuse to admit to the ranks of practitioners any being
who is insane.
_________________
Auditor
_________________
Date
_________________ _________________
Witness Place
L. Ron Hubbard
Founder
Spacetraveler
this an absolute possibility. You need to be sessionable (having had a good
nightsleep, wellfed and various) so you can drop off into hypnosis
comfortably. Any drugs are forbidden while receiving auditing because
they're not necessary.
Well Ramona, you think you know something. However you have already
displayed no interested to find out MY secrets. Not where it concerns
Einstein nor anything else as it appears. You are like me when I don't want
to know something. .-)
Spacetraveler = (ingredients) a conviction, then collect some data while
surfing on the Internet, preferably conspiratorial 'data', next step is to
associate for the readers, last step it to present it. Then, when nobody
believe you, keep repeating the last step until you are blue in the face.
Keep flushing into you're blue somewhere else. The point is to repeat it
often enough until it doesn't matter if anybody believe you or not, you
have hypnotised yourself into believing it forever. Get it?
Lisa Ruby
>Do you really want to become the laughing stock?
Spacetraveler puts people down when he can't refute
what they write. (He frequently employs the name calling propaganda
technique.)
Keep up the good work, Ramona.
Spacetraveler
"Ramona" <atlr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120092921.5...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> You are the one that stated incorrect information regarding Einstein,
> which I corrected.
You can never become the laughing stock I am. There are people around here
who in fact have studied these things in great detail. Don't be like me...
get a life.
> You were clearly wrong as even simple surfing, has
> proven.
I am never wrong. Sometimes I make a mistake because I am in a hurry. But
never wrong.
> I would prefer you would have read a good book with the
> information, but realize that some people avoid facts.
>
> I have read and verified. You don't, which you have shown, using
> Einstein as the example. I hyperlink because of the mode of
> communication being used. The fact remains you believed urban legend
> as truth and won't admit it.
That's correct. I never admit being wrong when I'm wrong.
>
> I am familiar with the "rules" of auditing, including being well fed
> and etc. This doesn't change the fact that auditing is a light hyposis
> and the person receiving the hypnosis is prone to suggestion, even if
> well fed and not on drugs.
I've gotten so much auditing. Do I seem a person who can be hypnotized?
DON'T ANSWER THAT!
My God, save me from finding out the truth...
Lisa Ruby
"This was my first encounter with sensory deprivation, hypnosis, and
mind control. The hypnotic techniques used in OT TR0 are sensory
deprivation and stress, which produces an altered state of
conciousness. In the Philadelphia Doctorate Course tapes, Hubbard says
that closing your eyes puts you into a light hypnotic trance. So here,
L Ron lies about training you to "confront". In fact, he is putting you
into a trance - a trance that is built upon with "the gradient", and
which becomes the basis for auditing."
Notice! Fake 'Spacetraveler posting prior to this!
posted as: Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header (Spacetraveler)
through: mail...@dizum.com
The ONLY purpose of the critics around here is to CONFUSE the readers about
Scientology...
How do they go about it? They simply IMPERSONATE pro Scientology posters.
The facts tell us that the critics are NOT BEING IMPERSONATED on this
newsgroup. Does this tell us something? Why do you make attempts to confuse
people? WHAT is it that they don't want you to know? YOU figure it out.
* * *
Why? I am continuously impersonated... some evidently mentally disturbed
individual(s) find it necessary to play that game, the sick game of
impersonating... and they can't stop doing it.. it's like an addiction of
some sort...
See, they probably hope that it will confuse the readers...
One thing is very odd though, why is no one impersonating Gerry Armstrong
and other critics? Why is it me (Spacetraveler), Barbara Schwarz, Sunsurfer
and some other that most of the time have something positvie have to say
about Scientology that are being impersonated? The hardcore critics are not
being impersonated! Isn't it obvious waht is going on here? Impersonating
and attempting to make me foolish by fake postings serves the critics!
I repeat: I T S E R V E S T H E C R I T I C S ! ! ! ! !
Well, at least this is what they like to think...
Could it be because honest and straightforward persons do not lower
themselves in such ways? Think about it . . . Some posters around here have
the sole purpose to smear those who are in favour of Scientology
technology... why would they do that in such a 'sneaky' (impersonating) way.
Think about it . . .
...attack and destroy those who have something positive to say about
Scientology... kill them.... destroy them... impersonate them... smear
them... do what ever to discredit them... Fair Gaming in action by those
who support the critics?! hmmm, typical...
The majority of the false impersonator posts are posted as:
Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header
and through: mail...@dizum.com
For complaints: ab...@dizum.com
Reason: impersonating another persons username and identity.
Spacetraveler
Spacetraveler
"Lisa Ruby" <Commis...@groupmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120109564.0...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Of course, anything to undermine my creditbility. The critics sect (as it is
a sect) keeps together and supports eachother having the same fixation, no
matter what.
Lisa Ruby is the one that is convinced that Sceintology is a plan concocted
by LRH to control the world through Big Brother...
Spacetraveler
Spacetraveler
You need a whole lot more than only this. Those getting caught in any trance
often were already that before they got involved with Scientology. Doing
TRs is about being here. The thing is that the persistent result of Pro TRs
is that you all of a sudden seem to be handle the physical universe, you
start completing incompleted cycles of action and so on. In trance you are
not prone to do these things. Not in the degree I have seen. If correctly
done you get into present time.
Also you are forgetting that in fact psychology and psychotherapy have
drills that resemble TRs to some degree.
Spacetraveler
Spacetraveler
mind you must be to spent all that time impersonating and fixing other
persons postings. I think this is very sick.
Spacetraveler
Fake posting below:
"Spacetraveler" <Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
news:5XIHG4WY3853...@anonymous.poster...
WCB
You have no credibility to undermine.
--
When I shake my killfile I can hear them buzzing.
theteabaggame
Spacetraveler
"theteabaggame" <thetea...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1120140107.5...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Please give examples of drills resembling TRs to some degree.
Consult the works of Roberto Assagioli.
Spacetraveler
Spacetraveler
mind I must be to spent all this time whining about being satirized? The
reader must decided.
Spacetraveler
Authentic posting below:
Spacetraveler
"Lisa Ruby" <Commis...@groupmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120109564.0...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Spacetraveler wrote this regarding Ramona:
>
> >Do you really want to become the laughing stock?
>
> Spacetraveler puts people down when he can't refute
> what they write. (He frequently employs the name calling propaganda
> technique.)
>
> Keep up the good work, Ramona.
Of course, you'll do anything to undermine my creditbility but why? I don't
have any. Indoctrinated Scientologists are a sect (a cult) that keeps
together and supports eachother having the same fixation, no matter what.
Look at Barbara Schwarz, Robert Carlson and I ...
Barbara Schwarz is the one who thinks she's Eisenhower's grandaughter and
is convinced there's a conspiracy to take over Sceintology before it can
complete its plan concocted by LRH to control the world through Big
Brother.
Spacetraveler
Spacetraveler
"Lisa Ruby" <Commis...@groupmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120110703.1...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The trance state (hypnotized) is the basis for auditing:
>
> "This was my first encounter with sensory deprivation, hypnosis, and
> mind control. The hypnotic techniques used in OT TR0 are sensory
> deprivation and stress, which produces an altered state of
> conciousness. In the Philadelphia Doctorate Course tapes, Hubbard says
> that closing your eyes puts you into a light hypnotic trance. So here,
> L Ron lies about training you to "confront". In fact, he is putting you
> into a trance - a trance that is built upon with "the gradient", and
> which becomes the basis for auditing."
>
> http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/TR/critique.html
>
To convince an indoctrinated Scientologist you need a whole lot more than
only this. Even if correctly done I won't get into present time.
Also you are forgetting that in fact psychology and psychotherapy have
drills that resemble TRs to some gradient degree.
Spacetraveler
theteabaggame
esoteric psychology and the work of Alice Bailey, a theosophical
scholar. And that he was a fan of Jung - many aren't.
But thanks for the lead.
got any better examples than that? Anything more....mainstream?
theteabaggame
Also you are forgetting that in fact psychology and psychotherapy have
drills that resemble TRs to some degree.
Spacetraveler
Please give examples of drills resembling TRs to some degree.
the teabaggame
Consult the works of Roberto Assagioli.
Spacetraveler
theteabaggame
waiting... oh he's gone to another thread and is ignoring me.
Barbara Schwarz
Lie and forgery.
Barbara Schwarz
>
> Spacetraveler
Notice! Fake 'Spacetraveler posting prior to this!
posted as: Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header (Spacetraveler)
through: mail...@dizum.com
For complaints: ab...@dizum.com
Reason: impersonating another persons username and identity
So, don't trust the Spacetraveler postings posted as:
Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header (Spacetraveler)
and through: mail...@dizum.com
Spacetraveler
Arguments:
1. Analyze the style of the imposter postings, then compare with authentic
Gerry Armstrong postings.
2. Here gives Gerry Armstrong himself away: http://tinyurl.com/42nbb
Read his post and my response, judge for yourself...!
3. Here Gerry is adding a copyright when he forges me:
http://tinyurl.com/5a46z
As far as I have seen only Gery armstrong is in the habit of adding
copyrights on usernames.
4. We were missing Gerry's responses to my posts at about the same time that
"Spacetraveler impersonator" did his entry on the ARS.
5. How did the impersonator know about "
http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/writings/armstrong-report-fbi-rcmp-200
5-02-09.html "
before anyone else knew about it? The story about that you find here:
http://tinyurl.com/bdrkp
6. My impersonator has various times now used the expression: "LFBD F\N"
This is a Scientology term, and it denotes something not so very good. True,
others have been using this also, but no one has been using this in the way
that Gerry Armstrong has. As an example check out: http://tinyurl.com/8y4jw
7. The impersonator is fighting for and forwarding the wishes and
preconceptions of Gerry Armstrong.One of the issues taken up by the imposter
is defending Gerry for ignoring HCO PL 21 July 1968.
Do your calculation...
Notice! Fake 'Spacetraveler posting prior to this!
Notice! Fake 'Spacetraveler posting prior to this!
Spacetraveler
> let's recap..
You were responding to a forger...
Spacetraveler
Barbara Schwarz
The preceding post is from Barbara Schwarz, a German native residing in
the United States illegally & is a well-known mentally disturbed
schizophrenic who thrives on the attention she draws to herself from
posting hostile, demeaning character assassinations of critics and
anyone else she deems to be her enemy.
Schwarz often posts deliberate lies that some critics wish to harm
and/or murder her - to substantiate deliberately false complaints to
police and federal agencies, whom, disgusted with her distortion of the
truth and sociopath behavior, have ignored her..
Schwarz is a pathetically angry & hostile women who has no real
friends who spends countless hours 7 days a week in the Salt Lake City
Library using its public computers to stalk, harass, threaten and
malign anyone on Usenet who dares to challenge her comments or
criticize her.
She enjoys making cruel remarks about people suffering from & dying of
AIDS-related illnesses. This mentally disturbed woman, who spent years
incarcerated in mental health hospitals in Germany and Utah needs and
deserves to be re-committed for her own good and the good of others who
repeatedly suffer from her criminal behavior.
You can file complaints with the Salt Lake City Library:
http://www.slcpl.lib.ut.us/email_form.jsp?parent_id=16&page_id=16
Jommy Cross
<spacetra...@hotmail.com> wrote in msg
<byVwe.141208$dP1.4...@newsc.telia.net>:
But spacetra...@hotmail.com still has no answer to your questions.
Incident zero: Ron trolled them
Ever yours in fandom,
Jommy Cross
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Spacetraveler
He was responding to me. Do you have a problem with that? First you Fair
Game me. Now you order the ARS to disconnect from me. Typical indoctrinated
Scientologist behavior.
Flush...
Spacetraveler
--
"All men shall be my slaves! All women shall succumb to my charms! All
mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!" -- © L. Ron Hubbard
"Allah is great. I am greater!" -- © Spacetraveler
>
>Spacetraveler
theteabaggame
do you not have a decent answer?
Notice! Fake 'Spacetraveler posting prior to this!
posted as: Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header (Spacetraveler)
through: mail...@dizum.com
The ONLY purpose of the critics around here is to CONFUSE the readers about
Scientology...
* * *
and through: mail...@dizum.com
For complaints: ab...@dizum.com
Reason: impersonating another persons username and identity.
Spacetraveler
theteabaggame
Also you are forgetting that in fact psychology and psychotherapy have
drills that resemble TRs to some
degree.
Spacetraveler
Please give examples of drills resembling TRs to some degree.
the teabaggame
Consult the works of Roberto Assagioli.
Spacetraveler - at hotmail. the one true spacetraveler. You said this.
okay......says here that Assagioli based his psychosynthesis on
esoteric psychology and the work of Alice Bailey, a theosophical
scholar. And that he was a fan of Jung - many aren't.
But thanks for the lead.
got any better examples than that? Anything more....mainstream
?
theteabaggame
ahem..... i'm waiting.......
Spacetraveler
I can't help you here. I followed a class psychology once and we were freely
discussing various techniques. Assagioli was brought to our attention, and I
followed up on that for a while. Ask someone who has received treatment or
has studied the subject more closely then I did.
Anyway much later I got acquainted with Scientology and it reminded me
instantly about Assogioli.
Spacetraveler
Spacetraveler
"theteabaggame" <thetea...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1120219568.1...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> let's recap..
>
>
>
> Also you are forgetting that in fact psychology and psychotherapy have
> drills that resemble TRs to some
>
>
> degree.
>
> Spacetraveler
>
>
> Please give examples of drills resembling TRs to some degree.
>
>
> the teabaggame
>
>
> Consult the works of Roberto Assagioli.
>
>
> Spacetraveler - at hotmail. the one true spacetraveler. You said this.
>
>
>
> okay......says here that Assagioli based his psychosynthesis on
> esoteric psychology and the work of Alice Bailey, a theosophical
> scholar. And that he was a fan of Jung - many aren't.
> But thanks for the lead.
> got any better examples than that? Anything more....mainstream
No. I was shooting out of my ass. SOP.
Spacetraveler
Ramona
by Jon Atack
Yes indeed Scientology is a system of implanting and the "cognitions"
are predetermined by the processes. But it is a fairly complex system
of implanting which follows the rules as laid out by all of the
authorities - Jolly West, Lifton, Singer, Schein and Cialdini. Using
Schein's model, we see that Dianetics first propels you into age
regression where you will have to invent memories because we don't
actually have the memories that Hubbard claimed. This is False Memory
Syndrome. Then into past lives for more False Memories and the
reconstruction of the person. The content of the implants is the
teaching of Hubbard.
In auditing having been given the suggestions by Hubbard about engrams,
implanting et al people start to run them in session. In the TRs
intense hypnotic states are achieved resulting in dissociation and the
beginning of the construction of a cloned pseudo-identity. Scn'ists
retreat into TRs when challenged, re-inducing the flat emotionless
unresponsive state. Through Tone Scale drilling, people learn to
pretend emotions. The downside is that they can lose spontaneity by
doing so. They can lose the capacity for natural emotions.
With the CCHs, mimcry is used. The four basic forms of hypnosis or
trance induction or heightening of suggestibility seem to be
repetition, fixation, paradox (or confusion) and mimicry. On the
objectives, people have dizzy dissociated feelings. Hubbard even said
that on OpPro by Dup if the preclear says he feels as if he is
"floating" to end off because s/he is "exterior". This spatial
dissociation is a common fact know to all hypnotists (and Hubbard of
course claimed great expertise as a hypnotist). Psychiatrists call it
"depersonalization". Oddly enough, large doses of vitamin B-6 can also
create this state. Don't try it, you'll end up in the funny farm.
Along side all this runs the loaded language. Scn had 1,000 pages of
redefined and newly invented words (or neologisms if you want to get
technical). This language redefines reality for the victim just as
Korzybski said it would ("the map is not the territory - the word is
not the thing itself). Margaret Singer quite rightly praises Orwell for
his analysis of language in 1984 in her excellent Cults in Our Midst.
Hubbard engaged greatly in doublethink. So words reverse in meaning
(reasonable, for example) and the individual comes to think within the
language - to map reality using Hubbard ideas. This is partly why
Scn'ists don't recover unaided. They have been cognitively
restructured.
Feel free to put this on the Net with my name on it but without my
email address! There is much, much more to be said...
Jon
ramona
lisamcpherson.org
Notice! Fake 'Spacetraveler posting prior to this!
posted as: Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header (Spacetraveler)
through: mail...@dizum.com
What is it called? How is it spelled? Give me an F, give me an A, give me an
I, give me an R, give me an G, give me an A, give me an M, give me an E...
What's that spelled...?
This is how the critics cover up they have no argument that hold to start
with, they simply 'confidently' claim something (no explanation given), they
run (weaseling) or some may even impersonate...
Now how do they do that.... they simply Fair Game... the very tactic they
accuse Scientology of using... and what do we find... they USE it
THEMSELVES...
One way of using it is impersonating pro Scientology posters and ridicule
them...
Spacetraveler
barb
Hmm...you think you're being persecuted? Maybe you should quit
repeatedly posting the same goddam thing under different nicks, asshole!
--
--barb
Chaplain,ARSCC
"Imagine a church so dangerous, you must sign a release
form before you can receive its "spiritual assistance."
This assistance might involve holding you against your
will for an indefinite period, isolating you from
friends and family, and denying you access to
appropriate medical care. You will of course be billed
for this treatment - assuming you survive it. If not,
the release form absolves your caretakers of all
responsibility for your suffering and death.
Welcome to the Church of Scientology."
--Dr. Dave Touretzky
Peter Alexander
Lisa Ruby
>You need a whole lot more than only this
There's more.
Google: Scientology Training Routines
A critical Review by Perry Scott
This is mind control. Flat-out mind control.
Lisa Ruby
Lisa Ruby
>Also you are forgetting that in fact
>psychology and psychotherapy have
>drills that resemble TRs to some gradient degree.
That is correct. Many psychologists and psychotherapists also use mind
control techniques.
Spacetraveler is my body thetan
>Notice! Fake 'Spacetraveler posting prior to this! wrote:
>
>> <snip Gerry Armstrong "Spacetraveler impersonator">
>> posted as: Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header (Spacetraveler)
>> through: mail...@dizum.com
>>
>> What is it called? How is it spelled? Give me an F, give me an A, give me an
>> I, give me an R, give me an G, give me an A, give me an M, give me an E...
>> What's that spelled...?
>>
>> This is how the critics cover up they have no argument that hold to start
>> with, they simply 'confidently' claim something (no explanation given), they
>> run (weaseling) or some may even impersonate...
>>
>> Now how do they do that.... they simply Fair Game... the very tactic they
>> accuse Scientology of using... and what do we find... they USE it
>> THEMSELVES...
>>
>> One way of using it is impersonating pro Scientology posters and ridicule
>> them...
>>
>> Spacetraveler
>>
>>
>Hmm...you think you're being persecuted? Maybe you should quit
>repeatedly posting the same goddam thing under different nicks, asshole!
LOL!
Spacetraveler is my body thetan.
Lisa Ruby
"The Battle For Your Mind."
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/TR/sutphen.html
While I disagree that a straightforward gospel presentation has
anything to do with mind control, (The God of the Bible deals with
people via their will--He does not seek to bypass it) I agree that
most of what passes for "religion" and Christianity these days is
filled with mind control techniques.
The author made some astute observations about music, too.
Jommy Cross
<spacetra...@hotmail.com> wrote in msg
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>"theteabaggame" <thetea...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:1120219568.1...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
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>> okay......says here that Assagioli based his psychosynthesis on
>> esoteric psychology and the work of Alice Bailey, a theosophical
>> scholar. And that he was a fan of Jung - many aren't.
>> But thanks for the lead.
>> got any better examples than that? Anything more....mainstream
>
>I can't help you here. I followed a class psychology once and we were freely
>discussing various techniques. Assagioli was brought to our attention, and I
>followed up on that for a while. Ask someone who has received treatment or
>has studied the subject more closely then I did.
>Anyway much later I got acquainted with Scientology and it reminded me
>instantly about Assogioli.
Finally, an answer! Space "can't help".
How did we get into this? Oh, yes...
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:21:11 GMT, "Spacetraveler"
<spacetra...@hotmail.com> wrote in msg
<XXNwe.141175$dP1.4...@newsc.telia.net>:
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>Also you are forgetting that in fact psychology and psychotherapy have
>drills that resemble TRs to some degree.
<snip>
So as far as you're concerned Assagioli is the whole of 'psychology and
psychotherapy'?
Do you ever wonder if you could be better informed, Space?
Incident zero: Ron trolled you