What does a Scientology make a person?
Astrid
clear with super powers, what does it make a person?
Essentially, it makes a person a liar, and a salesman for Scientology.
A Scientologist is trained to lie to themselves, so they can lie to
others, to sell Scientology.
LaserClam
Have you noticed any one else who has lied?
phil scott
yet another astute observation...
Phil scott
Roger Larsson
Homo Sapiens going Homo Novis goes Homo Idiotes when they exteriorize
from scientology and gets an overall picture of the fraud and ends up
as Homo Sapiens with a bitter experience richer to share with the
planets population.
Members in the mafia are in or dead. Scientology makes the good to
criminals. Scientologists don't have any soul of their own and it's
the reason why they can act as criminals.
phil scott
sorta loosin' yer snap there arnt ya lazerclam?
husk
> On Jan 5, 9:55 am, LaserClam <LaserC...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Have you noticed any one else who has lied?
>
> sorta loosin' yer snap there arnt ya lazerclam?
That was a snap? I thought it was a belch. It was simply lame,
though with no appendages it couldn't have been anything else.
Gregory Hall
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Methinks Laserclam is a bot.
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Gregory Hall
Roadrunner
Big misconception, Scientology does not make you doing anything, it is
you yourself that does all that. As long as you don't understand that,
not data or technology or valuable pieces of information will get you
anywhere...
RR
Roger Larsson
Ron Hubbard never pops up from a box telling scientologists to smile
because he tricked them to believe in a faked authority.
If Ron Hubbard had learned himself to complete cycles from the
professionals in "Candid Camera" he could have done something good in
the world.
Gregory Hall
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You're way too clueless. Scientology makes a person act irrationally.
Barbara Schwarz is the perfect example of that. Scientology has taught her
well. She's learned how to create her own reality using Scientology tenets.
It can easily be verified that Scientology made her act that way. All one
needs do is examine her ways and means. Scientology 'tech' all the way. Out
of step with generally accepted reality.
When a system of beliefs acts independently of accepted physical reality it
does, indeed, 'make' you act independently of reality. Your actions reflect
the reality that you exist in. If the reality is false then your actions are
false. It's that simple.
Trouble is it's not so simple for a Scientologist to see it because any
actual physical basis of reality they once may have recognized has been
erased.
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Gregory Hall
Roadrunner
> "Roadrunner" <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:787ec86b-e68f-4bbb...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 5 Jan, 17:36, Astrid <Astrid7777...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> If Scientology doesn't make a person a transcendent superior being,
> >> clear with super powers, what does it make a person?
>
> >> Essentially, it makes a person a liar, and a salesman for Scientology.
> >> A Scientologist is trained to lie to themselves, so they can lie to
> >> others, to sell Scientology.
>
> > Big misconception, Scientology does not make you doing anything, it is
> > you yourself that does all that. As long as you don't understand that,
> > not data or technology or valuable pieces of information will get you
> > anywhere...
>
> > RR
>
> You're way too clueless. Scientology makes a person act irrationally.
Thus you make something else cause over you, well done!
> Barbara Schwarz is the perfect example of that. Scientology has taught her
> well. She's learned how to create her own reality using Scientology tenets.
> It can easily be verified that Scientology made her act that way. All one
> needs do is examine her ways and means. Scientology 'tech' all the way. Out
> of step with generally accepted reality.
Again you make something else responsibilty for you...
>
> When a system of beliefs acts independently of accepted physical reality it
> does, indeed, 'make' you act independently of reality. Your actions reflect
> the reality that you exist in. If the reality is false then your actions are
> false. It's that simple.
Ah, and how do you determine which is which. The only reality that
exist is the one we agree upon. In fact there is none else.
>
> Trouble is it's not so simple for a Scientologist to see it because any
> actual physical basis of reality they once may have recognized has been
> erased.
You mean to say, that which YOU have agreed upon, has been neglected
in some way...
You don't get this do you...
RR
>
> --
> Gregory Hall
Gregory Hall
> On 6 Jan, 15:44, "Gregory Hall" <gregh...@home.fake> wrote:
>> "Roadrunner" <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:787ec86b-e68f-4bbb...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On 5 Jan, 17:36, Astrid <Astrid7777...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> If Scientology doesn't make a person a transcendent superior being,
>> >> clear with super powers, what does it make a person?
>>
>> >> Essentially, it makes a person a liar, and a salesman for Scientology.
>> >> A Scientologist is trained to lie to themselves, so they can lie to
>> >> others, to sell Scientology.
>>
>> > Big misconception, Scientology does not make you doing anything, it is
>> > you yourself that does all that. As long as you don't understand that,
>> > not data or technology or valuable pieces of information will get you
>> > anywhere...
>>
>> > RR
>>
>> You're way too clueless. Scientology makes a person act irrationally.
>
> Thus you make something else cause over you, well done!
Speak English. That Scientology Speak you're so fond of makes you sound just
plain out of touch with reality. Your response proves my assertions quite
nicely.
>
>> Barbara Schwarz is the perfect example of that. Scientology has taught
>> her
>> well. She's learned how to create her own reality using Scientology
>> tenets.
>> It can easily be verified that Scientology made her act that way. All one
>> needs do is examine her ways and means. Scientology 'tech' all the way.
>> Out
>> of step with generally accepted reality.
>
> Again you make something else responsibilty for you...
Speak English. Scientology Speak should, at least, be gramatically correct.
You type gibberish.
>
>>
>> When a system of beliefs acts independently of accepted physical reality
>> it
>> does, indeed, 'make' you act independently of reality. Your actions
>> reflect
>> the reality that you exist in. If the reality is false then your actions
>> are
>> false. It's that simple.
>
> Ah, and how do you determine which is which. The only reality that
> exist is the one we agree upon. In fact there is none else.
>
>>
>> Trouble is it's not so simple for a Scientologist to see it because any
>> actual physical basis of reality they once may have recognized has been
>> erased.
>
> You mean to say, that which YOU have agreed upon, has been neglected
> in some way...
A screed generator would come up with something that makes more sense than
that. You must try harder if you expect to be taken seriously.
>
> You don't get this do you...
>
> RR
What I 'get' is how nicely you proved my point about it's not so simple for
a Scientologist to see their warped reality because any actual, physical
basis of reality they once may have recognized has been erased by
Scientology language and mind manipulation.
--
Gregory Hall
Tigger
Hubbard "tech" can turn a person into a brainwashed fanatic, who will
do $CN's bidding whether it's to disconnect from family and friends,
spend all their money on "courses", books, videos, collectibles, etc.
erronously called "donations", dedicate all their time and lives and
the lives of their children to a"fantasY', abuse fellow members,
attack and/or file frivalous lawsuits, promote $CN's propaganda, sell
books, recruit new members, etc.
Similar to other fanatics, whether they call themselves a "religion"
or something else. There is nothing as dangerous as a "true
believer", especially if the beliefs are bullshit.
Tigger
"A skunk by any other name still stinks the same."
Lawrence
"Astrid" <Astrid...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It is not Scientology that does it Astrid.
It is the crazy people that go around pretending
they are applying it with people that wouldn't yet
know what it is that causes all the controversy.
Let's ask this question Astrid. If you were in charge
of the world what would you recommend to solve
people's problems?
--
Read "The Diary Of A Scientologist"
http://mysite.verizon.net/toomajan/
Larry
Astrid
>
> Let's ask this question Astrid. If you were in charge
> of the world what would you recommend to solve
> people's problems?
>
Oh that's simple...Roto-rooter, that's the name, you just flush your
troubles down the drain.
First of all, there's not going to be one solution like Sciloontology,
to solve everyone's problems. So beware of any system, particularly
the more totalitarian ones, that offer simple solutions, w/scapegoat,
e.g., it's the psychs!
I think people should exercise caution, use common sense, and not be
afraid to read both sides of something before they throw themselves in
it, to see if it works for them. Read and research as much as you can.
Read about what the long-term effect of doing crack, smack, or
Scientology. Now with the internet, if something looks like fun, you
don't have to just dive in and try it. You can watch youtube videos
and read websites to see if it is really as fun or useful as the ad
says.
When Scientology was new, I could see how people might need to try it
for themselves, but after it was five years old, people should simply
do more research before joining something where the promises look too
good to be true, and where a single course package at the higher
level, lasting less than a year costs more than a four year Harvard
education.
Religion should be free. Scientology is neither. Read about the
history of any religion you are considering joining. Make sure it
doesn't have a fee structure that looks like a reverse pyramid scam.
For self-improvement or heath nostrums, good diet and moderate, varied
exercise, something you enjoy if possible.
Find a passion in life, whether reading, music, art, teaching, or
science. Something you can be engaged in during the down periods or as
you get older.
For severe depression or other mental problems that are not responding
to moderate exercise, social interaction, good diet, see a doctor, and
if you don't like your doctor, try another doctor.
Instead of trying to find some nirvana super empowered existence,
accept that the human condition is going to include suffering, and try
to learn from your suffering.
Forgive others for hurting you, as a way to obtain release from your
anger.
Find ways to use less energy, and encourage energy and resource
conservation. Remember, we're stuck here until president Cruise gets
the Space Org built. (Suri, not Tom)
Lawrence
And that is a good thing.
It is a race Astrid, with Scientologists trying to be on
the front lines misinforming people for a profit so they
can address imagined "case problems".
Roadrunner
Always attack... no Scientology speak here actually... all in your
mind... see see what you WANT to see...
>
>
>
>
>
> >> When a system of beliefs acts independently of accepted physical reality
> >> it
> >> does, indeed, 'make' you act independently of reality. Your actions
> >> reflect
> >> the reality that you exist in. If the reality is false then your actions
> >> are
> >> false. It's that simple.
>
> > Ah, and how do you determine which is which. The only reality that
> > exist is the one we agree upon. In fact there is none else.
>
> >> Trouble is it's not so simple for a Scientologist to see it because any
> >> actual physical basis of reality they once may have recognized has been
> >> erased.
>
> > You mean to say, that which YOU have agreed upon, has been neglected
> > in some way...
>
> A screed generator would come up with something that makes more sense than
> that. You must try harder if you expect to be taken seriously.
>
>
>
> > You don't get this do you...
>
> > RR
>
> What I 'get' is how nicely you proved my point about it's not so simple for
> a Scientologist to see their warped reality because any actual, physical
> basis of reality they once may have recognized has been erased by
> Scientology language and mind manipulation.
You just ignore, or rather your level of comprehension is pretty
low... you pick and believe, and then attack all that don't see
matters through your goggles...
RR
RR
>
> --
> Gregory Hall
Peter Schilte
Have you noticed that your response fits your behavior re Kent Hovind
and his creationist theories perfectly? And your behavior re
psychiatry also? As a matter of fact, it even fits your behavior re
critics of your precious and adored scientology!
Double standards, Again, Michel.
Peter
"If a child or these children are found in Hold 1, or any
hidden compartment of the ship they are to be locked up."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Flag Order 1630, Governess,
3 December 1968