Re: PURIFICATION RUNDOWN CASE DATA
mgo...@chello.nl
(Dolly Lama) wrote in <PM352I2K38103.5345023148@anonymous.poster>:
>Be sure to read the very last paragraph on the sole purpose of
>the Purification Rundown.
>
>I wonder if the folks at Narconon know this.
I wonder more if the NY firemen know it. I've used it on a new part I made
today of my page on scieno recruitment in the workplace (have to upload it
yet). Comments are welcome:
- "New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project" -
Downtown Medical
Scientology cashing in on the 9/11 tragedy and NYC Firemen? It sure seems
so. The cult has never been known for being scrupulous and jumped on the
bandwagon to use yet another opportinity for nice PR pictures and offering
Scientology under a different name. Downtown Medical offers a
"detoxification" program which in Scientology is sold as the purification
rundown. It is a "preliminary religious ritual that all new members must
buy," as was reported in the Boston Globe.
The purification rundown made up by Scientology founder and convicted
criminal L.Ron Hubbard isn't only sold in Scientology or Downtown Medical,
so too it is part of Scientology's Narconon, but there it is touted as a
treatment for sweating out drugs. One treatment fits all, in Scientology.
What is mandatory for new scientologists, is mandatory for new Narconon
clients, and is mandatory for New York firemen when they want to do the
Scientology-based detox program at Downtown Medical.
Media articles on this scam
CultNews.com - 13 Jul 2003
- Will Scientology cash in on 9-11 tragedy through NYC Firemen?
CultNews.com - 20 Aug 2003
- A Scientology related program raises money using New York City firemen
New York Times - 04 Oct 2003
- Scientologist's Treatments Lure Firefighters
CultNews.com - 05 Oct 2003
- AP picks up NY Times story about Scientology-related program and NYC
Firemen
CultNews.com - 28 Oct 2003
- Is Tom Cruise working a NYC charity event for Scientology?
Daily News (New York) - 13 Dec 2003
- Bravest taking the Cruise cure
CultNews.com - 17 Dec 2003
- NY fireman's union dumps Scientology-related program
Experts on the Hubbard purification rundown/detoxification program
- Prof Michael Ryan, head of the pharmacology department at UCD testified
that the purification rundown is "neither medically safe nor
scientifically verified".
- Prof. Folke Sjoqvist, Scientific Advisor in Clinical Pharmacology
concluded in his expert advice on Narconon given to the Swedish National
Board of Health and Welfare: "As evident from this compilation, there is
no documentation to show that the Hubbard method of detoxification from
drug abuse conforms to scientific standards and medical experience."
- In a blistering 1988 report, Dr. Ronald E. Gots, a toxicology expert
from Bethesda, Md., called the regimen "quackery," and noted that "no
recognized body of toxicologists, no department of occupational medicine,
nor any governmental agencies endorse or recommend such treatment."
- David Hogg, M.D., Toronto did a Critical analysis and concluded:
Hubard's "theories are based on fallacies and lies; there is no scientific
data to support any of them... his program not only fails to deliver what
it promises, but may actually be detrimental to the health of those taking
it."
More expert opinions, including the opinion of United States Assistant
Surgeon General, can be found on narconon-exposed.org. Another story worth
reading is how Scientology at Ground Zero was obstructing much needed
help.
If you are a NY firefighter or rescue worker, and wonder whether you
should do the "detoxification" program AKA purification rundown, read
these words of the offical Scientology "scripture" on the sole purpose of
the purification rundown:
The Purification Rundown has as its sole purpose the handling of the
restimulative effects of drugs and toxic residuals on a Spiritual Being.
The Purification Rundown is a Spiritual activity based on and administered
according to the doctrine and practices of the religion of Scientology as
set forth in the writings of L. Ron Hubbard and adopted by the Church. No
part of the Rundown is intended as the diagnosis, prescription for, or
treatment of any bodily or physical condition or ill.
=====
--
Mike Gormez
- Scientology and health http://www.whyaretheydead.net/
- 'Religious' child abuse and neglect http://www.taxexemptchildabuse.net/
- Scientology harassment in the workplace http://whyaretheydead.net/misc/work/
- Hubbard on psychs http://whyaretheydead.net/misc/scientology_hatred_of_psychiatry.html
mgo...@chello.nl
rundown and purification program, as offered scientology affiliate
Downtown Medical?
Nice revealing link
http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/catalog/books_clearbodyclearmind.html
Cerridwen
>Guys, just to be 100% -- is there any difference between the purification
>rundown and purification program, as offered scientology affiliate
>Downtown Medical?
The Purif Rundown and the Purif Program are the *exact* same thing.
There is no doubt or reservation about this.
;-)
The senior policy in Scn is "Keeping Scn Working" and that means
that the "tech" has to be 100% Standard.
The Downtown Medical is run by Scientologists. It is a high
crime for a Scientologist to deliver the tech in any way that is
not 100% standard.
The only difference between the Purif in the Downtown
Medical and the Purif in the C of S, is the word Scientology
has been remove and any other references to "spiritual"
matters has also been deleted. Other than that, they are the
very same thing.
--
Cerridwen
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Remove the brackets and the words within them
mgo...@chello.nl
(Cerridwen) wrote in <FWBUOWC738103.6816203704@anonymous.poster>:
>The Downtown Medical is run by Scientologists. It is a high
>crime for a Scientologist to deliver the tech in any way that is
>not 100% standard.
>
>The only difference between the Purif in the Downtown
>Medical and the Purif in the C of S, is the word Scientology
>has been remove and any other references to "spiritual"
>matters has also been deleted. Other than that, they are the
>very same thing.
Thanks so far. See, that is important and I should incorporate that in th
text - and it actually pisses me off because I have to rewrite that
entirely :-)
I can't link them directly then with the purification rundown HCOB. The
practice is the same but I would doubt they have that little disclaimer
too, that it only heals the spirit or whatever. I can tell how it is sold
inside the cult but I can't tell them that their stuff is equal.
Mmm..
Android Cat
> "On 26 Apr 2004 21:21:32 -0000, Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header
> (Cerridwen) wrote in <FWBUOWC738103.6816203704@anonymous.poster>:
>
>
>> The Downtown Medical is run by Scientologists. It is a high
>> crime for a Scientologist to deliver the tech in any way that is
>> not 100% standard.
>>
>> The only difference between the Purif in the Downtown
>> Medical and the Purif in the C of S, is the word Scientology
>> has been remove and any other references to "spiritual"
>> matters has also been deleted. Other than that, they are the
>> very same thing.
>
> Thanks so far. See, that is important and I should incorporate that
> in th text - and it actually pisses me off because I have to rewrite
> that entirely :-)
>
> I can't link them directly then with the purification rundown HCOB.
> The practice is the same but I would doubt they have that little
> disclaimer too, that it only heals the spirit or whatever. I can
> tell how it is sold inside the cult but I can't tell them that their
> stuff is equal.
>
>
> Mmm..
Not so fast there pardner!
http://www.holysmoke.org/narconon/narconon-claims-of-support.htm
Scroll down to "American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE)":
The study itself contains a very significant reference, the significance of
which lies principally in what is omitted. The text refers to the "Hubbard
method" which was "regularly delivered at two centers in California" (which
centres and where are not mentioned - possibly Narconon branches?) and
references "Hubbard LR. The Technical Bulletins. Vol.12. Bridge Publ. Los
Angeles 1980:163-181." The title, as the authors surely knew, is truncated;
the full title is "The Technical Bulletins of Dianetics and Scientology". It
is not hard to work out why the title has been truncated, as giving the full
title would have given the game away. Each of the eighteen volumes of the
Technical Bulletins of Dianetics and Scientology is prefaced with the
statement that "This is part of the religious literature and works of the
Founder of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard." One has to ask why "religious
literature" is being referenced in a supposedly scientific study.
--
Ron of that ilk.
Warrior
says...
>
>"On 26 Apr 2004 21:21:32 -0000, Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header
>(Cerridwen) wrote in <FWBUOWC738103.6816203704@anonymous.poster>:
>
>
>>The Downtown Medical is run by Scientologists. It is a high
>>crime for a Scientologist to deliver the tech in any way that is
>>not 100% standard.
>>
>>The only difference between the Purif in the Downtown
>>Medical and the Purif in the C of S, is the word Scientology
>>has been remove and any other references to "spiritual"
>>matters has also been deleted. Other than that, they are the
>>very same thing.
>
>Thanks so far. See, that is important and I should incorporate that in th
>text - and it actually pisses me off because I have to rewrite that
>entirely :-)
>
>I can't link them directly then with the purification rundown HCOB. The
>practice is the same but I would doubt they have that little disclaimer
>too, that it only heals the spirit or whatever. I can tell how it is sold
>inside the cult but I can't tell them that their stuff is equal.
"FDNY officials are worried by the clinic's requirement that firefighters
abandon their inhalers and medication. FDNY Deputy Commissioner
Francis X. Gribbon said that Downtown Medical 'is not a bona-fide
detox program. It should not be a substitute for the medical treatment
that our doctors have advised. We don't endorse it.'"
The program is the same as is delivered by Scientology centers. In fact,
to legally be able to sell the program, Downtown Medical has to pay a
licensing fee to Scientology.
Warrior - Sunshine disinfects
http://warrior.xenu.ca
mgo...@chello.nl
<c6kir...@drn.newsguy.com>:
>>I can't link them directly then with the purification rundown HCOB. The
>>practice is the same but I would doubt they have that little disclaimer
>>too, that it only heals the spirit or whatever. I can tell how it is sold
>>inside the cult but I can't tell them that their stuff is equal.
>
>"FDNY officials are worried by the clinic's requirement that firefighters
> abandon their inhalers and medication. FDNY Deputy Commissioner
> Francis X. Gribbon said that Downtown Medical 'is not a bona-fide
> detox program. It should not be a substitute for the medical treatment
> that our doctors have advised. We don't endorse it.'"
Yah, stop taking antidepressants is among them. It is unbelievable and
just for that the quacks should be closed down:
"But the existence of the clinic has upset city Fire Department officials,
who, among other concerns, are alarmed that the medical treatment
prescribed by its doctors is being discarded by some firefighters who
enroll at Downtown Medical. They say the clinic's detoxification program
requires firefighters to stop using inhalers meant to help with their
breathing and any medications they may be taking, like antidepressants or
blood pressure pills." -- NY Times, 4 Oct 2003
>The program is the same as is delivered by Scientology centers. In fact,
>to legally be able to sell the program, Downtown Medical has to pay a
>licensing fee to Scientology.
I am sure that they have to swallow the same amounts of niacin and the
other crap as is instructed in the purif HCOB and, they have to pay the
cult for the license and books, but Cerri says that just as in Narconon's
case, the instructions for Downtown Medical are 'secularized'. That makes
sense. So the program/practice is the same but the texts differ.
Android Cat
"Licensing fee" is a cover name for the fact that profits move uplines. If
they're like all other Scientology organizations, that's 10% of the income
_before_ costs. If Tom Cruise gets people to donate $1.2 million, $120,000
immediately goes to the CoS/RTC/etc web at the top. *Of course* the
lower-level organizations are non-profit, all the profit goes to the mother
cthurch--where they don't have to pay taxes on it either.
Let's see, Downtown "Medical" is secular, non-profit, and a desert-topping
so it doesn't pay taxes. Scientology is religious, the IRS said so, and a
floor-wax, so it doesn't pay taxes...
roger gonnet
"Cerridwen" <Anonymous...@See.Comment.Header> a écrit dans le message
de news:FWBUOWC738103.6816203704@anonymous.poster...
> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, mgo...@chello.nl wrote:
> >Guys, just to be 100% -- is there any difference between the purification
> >rundown and purification program, as offered scientology affiliate
> >Downtown Medical?
>
> The Purif Rundown and the Purif Program are the *exact* same thing.
> There is no doubt or reservation about this.
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
> The senior policy in Scn is "Keeping Scn Working" and that means
> that the "tech" has to be 100% Standard.
>
> The Downtown Medical is run by Scientologists. It is a high
> crime for a Scientologist to deliver the tech in any way that is
> not 100% standard.
>
> The only difference between the Purif in the Downtown
> Medical and the Purif in the C of S, is the word Scientology
> has been remove and any other references to "spiritual"
> matters has also been deleted. Other than that, they are the
> very same thing.
>
reminds me what scientology does since decades now, one of the very first
instance of this being the "new" comm course in 1980. Mentions of anything
spiritual were deleted, clammy ineptitudes like auditine etc were erased,
etc. That was nevertheless "100 % tech" at the time...
r
mgo...@chello.nl
<androi...@hotmail.com> wrote in <408d9021$1...@news2.lightlink.com>:
>> I can't link them directly then with the purification rundown HCOB.
>> The practice is the same but I would doubt they have that little
>> disclaimer too, that it only heals the spirit or whatever. I can
>> tell how it is sold inside the cult but I can't tell them that their
>> stuff is equal.
>Not so fast there pardner!
>http://www.holysmoke.org/narconon/narconon-claims-of-support.htm
>
>Scroll down to "American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE)":
>
>The study itself contains a very significant reference, the significance of
>which lies principally in what is omitted. The text refers to the "Hubbard
>method" which was "regularly delivered at two centers in California" (which
>centres and where are not mentioned - possibly Narconon branches?) and
>references "Hubbard LR. The Technical Bulletins. Vol.12. Bridge Publ. Los
>Angeles 1980:163-181." The title, as the authors surely knew, is truncated;
>the full title is "The Technical Bulletins of Dianetics and Scientology". It
>is not hard to work out why the title has been truncated, as giving the full
>title would have given the game away. Each of the eighteen volumes of the
>Technical Bulletins of Dianetics and Scientology is prefaced with the
>statement that "This is part of the religious literature and works of the
>Founder of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard." One has to ask why "religious
>literature" is being referenced in a supposedly scientific study.
Good find, to which I can add the following;
"Hubbard management tech" is contained in the so-called green volumes.
Dayton's claim that they are "secular" is nonsense. Here is part of what
it
says at the beginning of each of the 12 green volumes:
"To the Reader:
<snip>
"This book is part of the religious literature and works of
Scientology Founder, L. Ron Hubbard.
<snip>
(Signature:)
"Church of Scientology International"
Or should we say: The religious label is false and Dayton is absolutely
right in saying that the material is secular.
===
And this http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/studytech.org/red_volumes.htm
So I think I can state that Downtown Medical is run on the green
'religious' volumes (kept out of public sight) the instructions for the
firemen purif would have been 'secularized' whereby thetan is replaced by
person etc.
(dear lord, let it be so, otherwise I wll be more confused)