Scn Exec says Marty Rathbun died of cancer
Lagniappe
that Marty Rathbun had died of cancer but they had no other information
as of when or what happened, all they told me was that he had cancer
and was FB'd (Fitness Board) out of the SO due to his terminal illness.
That's all the exec basically knew, but I am sure more will come out.
What I find weird is that usually when an SO dies, they publish 'his
departure' in the 'Auditor' Magazine, but this time Marty's dead has
been kept very quiet.
Would it be because he is not really dead and he's just pretending
to be dead to send some investigator in a 'goose chase'?
Would it be that he is now in Madrid or Switzerland enjoying the
money that he and his friend DM stole from the thousands of
scientologists around the world?
Dear OSA reader, don't let this happen to you. Leave while you can
and take all the documents with you to defend yourself from the
vicious attacks from your colleagues.
Lagniappe
the even harder to handle .Lily Firered.
I mean you sound so clumsy that would fit to the image Mike Rinder
gives to me. And don't you have other things to do in your dying cult
than harassing people?
.Lily.
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Lagniappe wrote:
> Today a friend of
<snip> because that is already a lie. Lagniapple you have no friends.
>
> Lagniappe
RolandRB
Lagniappe wrote:
> Today a friend of mine who is an executive at a certain Org told me
> that Marty Rathbun had died of cancer but they had no other information
> as of when or what happened, all they told me was that he had cancer
> and was FB'd (Fitness Board) out of the SO due to his terminal illness.
>
> That's all the exec basically knew, but I am sure more will come out.
> What I find weird is that usually when an SO dies, they publish 'his
> departure' in the 'Auditor' Magazine, but this time Marty's dead has
> been kept very quiet.
Usually they say they have opted to take a 21 year holiday, or
something like that. That a person with such long service and so high
up in the Church doesn't get a mention, tells me that the organisation
has turned nasty at its core. And that "core" is David Miscavige.
Rev. Norle Enturbulata
"RolandRB" <rolan...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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For DM to "turn nasty" he would have had to be otherwise at some point in
the past.
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*
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*
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Barbara Schwarz
Lagniappe wrote:
> Today a friend of mine who is an executive at a certain Org told me
Why would have Lagniappe, an anti-religious extremist, have a
Scientology executive as friend? Unless, I am right and the orgs are
infiltrated with their agents, which means that the Scientology
"critics" need to be blamed on what they blame Scientologists on.
> that Marty Rathbun had died of cancer but they had no other information
> as of when or what happened, all they told me was that he had cancer
> and was FB'd (Fitness Board) out of the SO due to his terminal illness.
What is the name of your "friend", Lapni? As you made him up, you can't
tell his name, now can't you.
>
> That's all the exec basically knew, but I am sure more will come out.
> What I find weird is that usually when an SO dies, they publish 'his
> departure' in the 'Auditor' Magazine, but this time Marty's dead has
> been kept very quiet.
Because he isn't dead. You guys can't just bury somebody. You all know
that the Mark Rathbun who died had another middle name.
>
> Would it be because he is not really dead and he's just pretending
> to be dead to send some investigator in a 'goose chase'?
He never pretended to be dead. Garry Scarff made it up and corrupt guys
like Korey Kruse and some other lawless guys jumped on the bandwagon
and spread the lie even further.
>
> Would it be that he is now in Madrid or Switzerland enjoying the
> money that he and his friend DM stole from the thousands of
> scientologists around the world?
Is that what you would do if you would be in Scientology?
>
> Dear OSA reader, don't let this happen to you. Leave while you can
> and take all the documents with you to defend yourself from the
> vicious attacks from your colleagues.
That is so insane. These enemies of Scientology make situations up and
then warn Scientologists that what they have fabricated will happen to
them.
Barbara Schwarz
Keith Henson
>Today a friend of mine who is an executive at a certain Org told me
>that Marty Rathbun had died of cancer but they had no other information
>as of when or what happened, all they told me was that he had cancer
>and was FB'd (Fitness Board) out of the SO due to his terminal illness.
That makes no sense, even for *scientology.*
If Marty was terminal why would anyone bother with getting him
divorced? Did your friend know about the divorce filing that have
been posted here?
> That's all the exec basically knew, but I am sure more will come out.
>What I find weird is that usually when an SO dies, they publish 'his
>departure' in the 'Auditor' Magazine, but this time Marty's dead has
>been kept very quiet.
>
> Would it be because he is not really dead and he's just pretending
>to be dead to send some investigator in a 'goose chase'?
>
> Would it be that he is now in Madrid or Switzerland enjoying the
>money that he and his friend DM stole from the thousands of
>scientologists around the world?
I seriously doubt Marty is enjoying himself. Few do offend the mighty
midget that has control of the cult.
However, if Marty is reading this in a library and needs a safe place
to stay, he can get a hold of me through the obvious method. I am
sure something can be worked out.
Keith Henson
Analytical Publications
> He never pretended to be dead. Garry Scarff made it up and corrupt guys
> like Korey Kruse and some other lawless guys jumped on the bandwagon
> and spread the lie even further.
Whatever you say, dog scum. No one believes a word you say except your
equally clueless pals, PMS & Lily.
Phil Scott
"Lagniappe" <Lagn...@noemail.com> wrote in message
news:T9C17JIE3875...@anonymous.poster...
> Today a friend of mine who is an executive at a certain Org
> told me
> that Marty Rathbun had died of cancer but they had no other
> information
> as of when or what happened, all they told me was that he
> had cancer
> and was FB'd (Fitness Board) out of the SO due to his
> terminal illness.
>
> That's all the exec basically knew, but I am sure more will
> come out.
> What I find weird is that usually when an SO dies, they
> publish 'his
> departure' in the 'Auditor' Magazine, but this time Marty's
> dead has
> been kept very quiet.
If he had died naturally, his wife would not have divorced him
simultaneously with Warren McShanes wife... neither would have
purged from the cults history.... thats if he died under
normal and natural circumstances.
If he was murdered, then all this cover up would take
place...followed by lies that he died naturally.
Dont fall for spin and 'shore stories'
Phil Scott
Abby
Phil Scott wrote:
>
>
> If he had died naturally, his wife would not have divorced him
> simultaneously with Warren McShanes wife... neither would have
> purged from the cults history.... thats if he died under
> normal and natural circumstances.
>
> If he was murdered, then all this cover up would take
> place...followed by lies that he died naturally.
>
> Dont fall for spin and 'shore stories'
>
>
> Phil Scott
It's also possible that a) he chose not to contest the divorce, or b)
he was told not to contest the divorce, or c) he's in the RPF.
Barbara Schwarz
Keith Henson wrote:
> On 7 Feb 2006 09:07:31 -0000, Lagniappe <Lagn...@noemail.com> wrote:
>
> >Today a friend of mine who is an executive at a certain Org told me
> >that Marty Rathbun had died of cancer but they had no other information
> >as of when or what happened, all they told me was that he had cancer
> >and was FB'd (Fitness Board) out of the SO due to his terminal illness.
>
> That makes no sense, even for *scientology.*
>
> If Marty was terminal why would anyone bother with getting him
> divorced? Did your friend know about the divorce filing that have
> been posted here?
The friend exists just in Lagniappe's phantasy.
>
> > That's all the exec basically knew, but I am sure more will come out.
> >What I find weird is that usually when an SO dies, they publish 'his
> >departure' in the 'Auditor' Magazine, but this time Marty's dead has
> >been kept very quiet.
> >
> > Would it be because he is not really dead and he's just pretending
> >to be dead to send some investigator in a 'goose chase'?
> >
> > Would it be that he is now in Madrid or Switzerland enjoying the
> >money that he and his friend DM stole from the thousands of
> >scientologists around the world?
>
> I seriously doubt Marty is enjoying himself. Few do offend the mighty
> midget that has control of the cult.
If Marty is in prison, being wrongfully incarcerated and an impostor
took his place, he most certainly does not enjoy that.
>
> However, if Marty is reading this in a library and needs a safe place
> to stay, he can get a hold of me through the obvious method. I am
> sure something can be worked out.
>
> Keith Henson
Lol. He NEVER would work with an anti-religious extemists. He also most
certainly has read your postings that you want to kick me out of the
country and he is not appreciating that. Trust me on that one.
Barbara Schwarz
L. Ron Hubbard: "HONEST PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS, TOO."
http://www.thunderstar.net/~Schwarz/
(I am concerned about Dave Touretzky's activities.)
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/
(About Valerie Emanuel, number one "Eru Avatar"-suspect, who says she
is mentally ill. Eru stalks, defames and abuses me.)
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/emanuelv1.html
Psychiatric troll olihilyu @ yahoo.com posting from Brockton and
Rowland Massachussetts forges, harasses, defames and stalks me also
with e-mail address BarbSchwarz @yahoo.com and Barbara.Schwarz @
yahoo.com. Scott Goehring is a known forger. Read this:
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/goehrings1.html
Other interesting websites:
http://www.cchr.org
http://www.freespeechstore.com/
http://www.amatterofjustice.org/
Zinj
barbara...@gmail.com says...
<snip>
> Lol. He NEVER would work with an anti-religious extemists. He also most
> certainly has read your postings that you want to kick me out of the
> country and he is not appreciating that. Trust me on that one.
>
>
> Barbara Schwarz
The ARSCC has received messages indicating that Marty Rathbun won't
agree to speak to the police and FBI until he's certain that Barbara
Schwarz has deplaned in Frankfurt and can no longer stalk him.
Zinj
--
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This is the 'Tech' This is the Session.
Barbara Schwarz
d) took a leave of absence e) original Marty is wrongfully incarcerated
in a prison and impostor Marty blew after he was busted with
impostoring or afraid that he will be busted, there are also these
possibilities....
Most certainly is that Marty, the original, will always remain a
Scientologist. He really is no infltrator but a Scientologist and there
are no ex-Scientologists just ex-infiltrators and ex-people who entered
the orgs for other reasons than to study the religion. (Tory who posted
that she liked the Scientologists, which is no good reason to join a
religion.)
Eru Ilúvatar
>e) original Marty is wrongfully incarcerated
>in a prison
e.1) Marty is rightfully incarcerated
Barbara Schwarz
If somebody would finally arrest you, you would be rightfully
incarcerated.
Quite some postal employees are known for crimes and even violence.
Eru Ilúvatar
>> e.1) Marty is rightfully incarcerated
Do you have any evidence to suggest he isn't?
>If somebody would finally arrest you, you would be rightfully
>incarcerated.
What what, Barbara?
>Quite some postal employees are known for crimes and even violence.
How is that relevant to this discussion?
Keith Henson
wrote:
If Barbara really cares about Marty (any of them) she would go after
Riverside County with a request under whatever laws you can use in
California.
They would probably deny they have any records on him, but in fact
they do, and I would be glad to give her a declaration as to what
records I know they have if the county denies having them.
She could also ask the Feds if Marty Rathbun has been mentioned in the
Pellicano wire tap transcripts. Considering the lawyers and clients
involved there it seems very likely.
She might also look into the case against Don Wager for soliciting
perjury in the Hertado case for whatever connection Marty had in the
"political" influence that kept the Los Angeles DA from prosecuting
Wager. Deposition testimony (140 pages) where Wager admitted
soliciting perjury and being paid for it by Moxon is on the net.
http://www.holysmoke.org//gb/gb063.htm
Post I wrote about it is here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/8154f50915a1c315?hl=en&
Rest of thread below is interesting, particularly the ptsc post
recounting postings by Tom Klemesrud.
There is no doubt Barbara has serious mental problems, but considering
what has been done to her, it is no wonder.
Keith Henson
I am being debunked and fingered here
imaginary, non-existent reality:
I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm
a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a
nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a
nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a
nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a
nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a
nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a
nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a
nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a
nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm
anutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a
nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a
nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a
nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..I'm a nutcase..I'm batshit crazy..
Barbara Schwarz
Keith Henson wrote:
> On 8 Feb 2006 04:14:19 GMT, Eru Ilúvatar <alsima...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Barbara Schwarz <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>e) original Marty is wrongfully incarcerated
> >>in a prison
> >
> >e.1) Marty is rightfully incarcerated
>
> If Barbara really cares about Marty (any of them) she would go after
> Riverside County with a request under whatever laws you can use in
> California.
I care for the original Marty Rathbun not for any impostor. Same goes
for L. Ron Hubbard, I have not much sympathy for his impostor Jack, the
Vistaril guy.
That Riverside Marty has a wrong middle name. He is older than the
original Scientology Mark Rathbun, Why would I waste my time and chase
after the wrong Marty Rathbun? My heart belongs to the original Marty,
the very intelligent, courageous, bright, cute, able, honest and
ethical Mark Rathbun. That's the one I want to find, free, kiss and see
happy.
Chuck Beatty makes lots of claims without backing them up with
evidence. However, he posted that somebody told him that one of the
Marty Rathbun's connected to Scientology might be in Colorado taking
care of some family business. An IRS guy informed me years already that
there is indeed a Marty C. Rathbun from Colorado but when I asked for
more details, he didn't provide more. On the other side, I am very sure
that the original Marty Rathbun is from Utah. In other words, there
might be a Mark C. Rathbun from Colorado and one from Utah.
That dead Marty L. Rathbun in Riverside is a completely wrong road.
There are hundreds of Mark Rathbun's in the USA, and they have nothing
to do with Scientology.
>
> They would probably deny they have any records on him, but in fact
> they do, and I would be glad to give her a declaration as to what
> records I know they have if the county denies having them.
I am sure that the dead Marty L. Rathbun is not the only Marty Rathbun
who died and who had no connections to Scientology or me. I will not
chase after wrong Marty Rathbuns. It's enough when Scarff, Korey Kruse,
you and others are doing it.
>
> She could also ask the Feds if Marty Rathbun has been mentioned in the
> Pellicano wire tap transcripts. Considering the lawyers and clients
> involved there it seems very likely.
I don't get it. Why on earth would the original Marty Rathbun (my
prince) be mentioned in the Pellicano wire tap transcripts? The feds
listen in on extremists in foreign countries with ties to the USA. That
means that they likely listen in on yours from Canada to the USA but
not on Marty Rathbun. Marty is a good person and not an extremist.
>
> She might also look into the case against Don Wager for soliciting
> perjury in the Hertado case for whatever connection Marty had in the
> "political" influence that kept the Los Angeles DA from prosecuting
> Wager. Deposition testimony (140 pages) where Wager admitted
> soliciting perjury and being paid for it by Moxon is on the net.
>
> http://www.holy
Yeah right, because I believe in the despicable website of Dave Rice
since he has lots of defamation about me on his website too.
I believe that the original Marty is wrongfully behind bars since 1988
and that at this date or a bit later an eventual impostor took over. He
hardly can have anything to do with what happened afterwards or this
case. However, if somebody has rock solid evidence that is supporting
or contradicting this, I appreciate it you post or e-mail these
information.
>
> Post I wrote about it is here:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/8154f50915a1c315?hl=en&
>
> Rest of thread below is interesting, particularly the ptsc post
> recounting postings by Tom Klemesrud.
Gee, I am so "impressed" by these guys who constantly lie to make L.
Ron Hubbard, Scientology or good Scientologists look bad.
>
> There is no doubt Barbara has serious mental problems,
Reading your postings always make me think that you don't have your
marbles together, Keith Henson. Are you still hiding from American
justice in Canada? Why don't you just give yourself up, like a man, and
face the consequences and change your life accordingly and become a
lawful and ethical citizen?
>but considering
> what has been done to her, it is no wonder.
Scientology did nothing bad to me. Psychs, corrupt officials,
anti-religious extremists, black propaganda loving media and
infiltrators in SCN are to be blamed. If I had the smallest tendency to
ever go crazy, I probably would be like you today, Keith (and you did
not had to endure what I had) but as I very stable and sane, I am still
standing, tall and sane.
>
> Keith Henson
Barbara Schwarz
preserve these headers for legal actions against you, if you don't
mind. I despise forgers, they are cowards, that is why I document their
actions. Justice must be obtained, evidence must be reserved. Now, if
you must, go back to drinking your liver away.
Barbara Schwarz
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Re: Scn Exec says Marty Rathbun died of cancer (Who is the
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On 8 Feb 2006 14:17:19 -0800, in alt.usenet.kooks, "Barbara Schwarz"
<barbara.schw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Keith Henson wrote:
>> On 8 Feb 2006 04:14:19 GMT, Eru Ilúvatar <alsimak_th...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Barbara Schwarz <barbara.schw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>e) original Marty is wrongfully incarcerated
>> >>in a prison
>> >
>> >e.1) Marty is rightfully incarcerated
>>
>> If Barbara really cares about Marty (any of them) she would go after
>> Riverside County with a request under whatever laws you can use in
>> California.
>
>I care for the original Marty Rathbun not for any impostor.
That's Marty A. <lpha> Rathbun. The 1st of a series of 26 clones. AKA
Marty 1 Rathbun. Not and El...
My other clone.. Marty 5 or Marty E Rathbun, thinks you are a loon
and wish you to stop looking at him. Marty Q. or Marty 21 Rathbun
says " you need to bath more often..."
They still have not decanted the lat 4 clones. and There may not be
any more clones produced as the technology to produce more clones was
lost when the Chattanooga Base was breached with a HE blast ...
>Same goes
>for L. Ron Hubbard, I have not much sympathy for his impostor Jack, the
Same Idea here. L Ron is one of series of clones. I ron, II Ron, III
Ron... But those all have been failures compared to the 1st.
However the clones are not perfect and fail after a few years.
Something about the rapid cell growth causes an early self
disruptions.
Marty T Rathbun wrote:
> On 8 Feb 2006 14:17:19 -0800, in alt.usenet.kooks, "Barbara Schwarz"
> <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Keith Henson wrote:
> >> On 8 Feb 2006 04:14:19 GMT, Eru Ilúvatar <alsima...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Barbara Schwarz <barbara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>e) original Marty is wrongfully incarcerated
> >> >>in a prison
> >> >
> >> >e.1) Marty is rightfully incarcerated
> >>
> >> If Barbara really cares about Marty (any of them) she would go after
> >> Riverside County with a request under whatever laws you can use in
> >> California.
> >
> >I care for the original Marty Rathbun not for any impostor.
>
> That's Marty A. <lpha> Rathbun. The 1st of a series of 26 clones. AKA
> Marty 1 Rathbun. Not and El...
> My other clone.. Marty 5 or Marty E Rathbun, thinks you are a loon
> and wish you to stop looking at him. Marty Q. or Marty 21 Rathbun
> says " you need to bath more often..."
>
> They still have not decanted the lat 4 clones. and There may not be
> any more clones produced as the technology to produce more clones was
> lost when the Chattanooga Base was breached with a HE blast ...
>
> >Same goes
> >for L. Ron Hubbard, I have not much sympathy for his impostor Jack, the
>
> Same Idea here. L Ron is one of series of clones. I ron, II Ron, III
> Ron... But those all have been failures compared to the 1st.
>
> However the clones are not perfect and fail after a few years.
> Something about the rapid cell growth causes an early self
> disruptions.
Eru Ilúvatar
>Sounds like an intoxicated William Barwell, also called "the Rummy".
Sounds like the typical Barbara Schwarz name calling. As usual
Barbara attacks the person rather than deal with the issues.
Will Barbara ever stop lying and point out what part of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Schwarz she is claiming to
be defamation? Stay tuned.
Alexander Topelka
Eru Ilúvatar wrote:
> Barbara Schwarz <BarbaraSc...@excite.com> wrote:
>
> >Sounds like an intoxicated William Barwell, also called "the Rummy".
>
> S
Care to explain THESE public records, kook Milton Robert "Pete"
Stapelton, Eru Ilúvatar? You are hitting 80s, pimp. Harassing and
stalking women could cause you a heart attack, you sicko.
LOS ANGELES COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT CIVIL CASE
CASE NAME: HAWAII STATE v. STAPLETON MILTON ROBERT
CIVIL CASE NUMBER: REL 190525
FILING DATE: 11/06/1987
DISTRICT: CENTRAL (LOS ANGELES)
CASE TYPE: RECIPROCAL ENFORCEMENT STATE LINE, RESPONDENT
PARTY:
PLAINTIFF DEFENDANT
HAWAII STATE STAPLETON MILTON ROBERT