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 More options Feb 7 2003, 6:43 pm
Newsgroups: alt.religion.mormon
From: thejord...@aol.com (TheJordan6)
Date: 07 Feb 2003 23:42:57 GMT
Local: Fri, Feb 7 2003 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: Mormons say white = righteous, dark skin = sinner

>From: netz...@GeoCities.com  (Guy R. Briggs)
>Date: 2/4/2003 2:21 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <9317E5269netzachGeoCities...@199.45.49.11>

>aa...@artbulla.com (Aaron Kim) wrote:
>> netz...@GeoCities.com (Guy R. Briggs) wrote:

><snip>

>>> The policy WRT blacks and the priesthood started at a
>>> meeting in Cincinatti ...

>> This is not true.

>   Please see "Minutes of a conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of
>Latter-day Saints Held in Cincinnati Ohio, June 25, 1843. Present were
>John Page, Lorenzo Snow, Orson Pratt and Heber C. Kimball.

No, Guy, the proscription against ordaining Negroes to the priesthood had its
genesis in Joseph Smith's 1831 "Book of Moses" and his 1842 "Book of Abraham."

>>> ... - a meeting Smith did not attend, BTW - at which it was
>>> decided that blacks who already held the priesthood should
>>> not exercise it in public. The locals were particularly
>>> critical of the Church for teaching that blacks were
>>> children of the same God and could be given the priesthood.
>>> I believe that to be the beginning of the policy. And that,
>>> my friend, isn't even on the doctrinal target.

>> The Prophet explained that--

>> ...a black skin...has ever been a curse that has followed an
>> apostate of the holy priesthood, as well as a black heart....
>> (Times & Seasons 6:857)

><deletia>
>   Appeared in the Times and Seasons, yes. Appeared over Smith's name,
>no.

The quote most certainly reflected Smith's attitude and teachings towards the
Negro race:

"The power, glory and blessings of the Priesthood could not continue with those
who received ordination only as their righteousness continued; for Cain also
being authorized to offer sacrifice, but not offering it in righteousness, was
cursed."  ("Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith," p. 169.)

"I referred toe the curse of Ham for laughing at Noah, while in his wine, but
doing no harm.  Noah was a righteous man, and yet he drank wine and became
intoxicated; the Lord did not forsake him in consequence thereof, for he
retained all the power of his Priesthood, and when he was accused by Canaan, he
cursed him by the Priesthood which he held,...and the curse remains upon the
posterity of Canaan until the present day." (ibid, pp. 193-194.)

>If Smith taught that blacks were not supposed to have priesthood,
>why did he ordain Elijah Abel?

>bestRegards, Guy.

Because Abel was only 1/8 Negro, could pass for white, and was Smith's loyal
servant.  But Smith's ordination of Abel was obviously the exception to Smith's
own rules of banning Negroes (or Canaanites, Hamites, or whatever other term he
identified them by) from being ordained to the priesthood.

If you do not believe that the priesthood ban was Joseph Smith's doing, then
you are saying that every LDS church president from Brigham Young until 1978
was in error, a.k.a. "leading the church astray."

Randy J.


 
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