I wonder what would happen if this was posted to
every religious newsgroup...
===
"Therefore, I, Art Bulla, having authority,
command all men everywhere, Mormons, non,
Jew and Gentile, humble yourself, repent of
all your false notions and be baptized everyone
of you for the remission of sins, and ye shall
receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
And he that believeth that Art Bulla is the
One Mighty and Strong and is baptized shall
be saved, but he that believeth not shall
be damned, saith the Lord."
- Art Bulla
===
"Art Bulla is a true prophet of God by revelations
which anyone can inquire if they humble themselves
and pray if Art is the One Mighty and Strong.
Jesus is Messiah to Judah, Art is Messiah to Ephraim."
Aaron Kim, Apostle of Art Bulla
===
Bulla is more like Charles Manson.
(New Testament | Matthew 15:24)
Unlike you, I do not persecute anyone for their religious beliefs. I preach
to the House of Israel, not gentiles. You persecute the Mormons with your
foul rhetoric, which I will not do by going to the Baptists or the
Catholics. But you do this. I have a "bone to pick" with the Mormons, it
is true, but on the doctrine of the Holy Ghost which you deny. You never
have answered my question. You deny the existance of the Holy Ghost, do you
not? If you are a chemical evolutionist as you manifestly claim, you deny
everything spiritual, for nothing exists to you but material things. This
slobering drivel taught in public schools has brainwashed generations into
believing there is no afterlife, no accountability for actions, hence they
grow up mixing with the black race of Cain, becoming potheads, slackers,
queers and leftists like that nitwit Manning. Mommas don't let your
children grow up to be Mannings for they will die the second death, saith
the Lord.
--
"I just tell em the truth, and they think it's hell." Harry Truman
Concerning quotes (out of context): these are distortions, taken out of the
context of
the blasphemies and insults placed upon me by the vilest of traitors and
foul wretches
imagineable. Jesus kicked their asses out of the Temple and I do the same to
all god damned liars and hypocrites. I make no apology. God is my judge. If
this fellow (Manning) were honest he would include these, and all would see
that I am
justified by the Lord in my responses. The word of the Lord is given on
the matter in the following:
Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was Aaron, by mine own voice,
and by the voice of him that sent me, and I have endowed him with the keys
of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according
to my law and by my word, he will not commit sin, and I will justify him.
Let no one, therefore, set on my servant for I will justify him. saith the
Lord your God.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
"Nothing has more retarded the advancement of learning than the disposition
of vulgar minds to ridicule and vilify what they do not understand."
Dr.Samuel Johnson.
The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
<http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3>
Discourses of Brigham Young, Pg.68
As it has always been, and will be yet for some time, when the sons
of God assemble together Satan will be on hand as an accuser of the
brethren, to find fault with those who are trying to do good.
"But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call
down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are
indebted
to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God
has
spoken and how much He has not spoken?" Joseph Smith
"Every generation has flattered itself that it is a little better than the
one that preceded it. Every generation has prided itself in its knowledge
and great advancement in the arts and sciences and its superiority over
preceding generations; yet the power of the adversary and his hatred of
righteousness and truth are as great to-day as they ever were since the
creation of the earth." Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, Pg.228 - Pg.229,
George Q. Cannon, May 6, 1866
"Some men are natural born saints; whenever a principle is advanced they
understand it, and drink it in; * * * while there are others who do not
understand and oppose every principle that is not clear to their mind. This
can be accounted for, that we are not all pure blooded, for Ephraim became
foolish and mixed up with the gentiles. When we find the pure blood of
Ephraim, we find a natural born child of God and there is nothing in the
gospel that is objectionable to them, but the others have to exercise faith
in God and humble themselves before Him and live for it." (Deseret Weekly,
50:250-251)
35 And the rebellious shall be cut off out of the land of Zion, and shall
be sent away, and shall not inherit the land.
36 For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim,
wherefore they shall be plucked out.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:35 - 36)
"RetroProphet" <RetroProp...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:d81hr...@drn.newsguy.com...
You say you preach only "to the House of Israel,
not gentiles," but you address, nay, you COMMAND
IN THE NAME OF GOD "all men everywhere, Mormons,
non, Jew and Gentile humble yourself, repent of all
your false notions and be baptized everyone of
you for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive
the gift of the Holy Ghost. And he that believeth
that Art Bulla is the One Mighty and Strong and
is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth
not shall be damned, saith the Lord."
So, which is it? The Lord has clearly given
you a message for the entire world, everyone
in it.
Why do you then claim need to only preach it to
some arbitrary fraction?
As for you not persecuting "anyone for their
religious beliefs," there is clearly persecuting
at some future juncture, according to you, for
all who do not accept you as a messiah "shall
be damned."
Damning is not persecution? What do you call it,
when you claim not to even need to warn most who
would be damned of their impending damnation, save
in whispers to those you yourself favor? Sounds worse
than persection to me; Persecution does not affect
one's afterlife.
As for my own beliefs, you know that I am an atheist.
Lack of belief in an afterlife does not imply
"no accountability for actions."
Humanist concepts have always been indispensible
in the development of morality, and particularly
indispensible in curtailing the excessive immoralities
that deity-based religions have historically incessently
encouraged for as long ago as you care to look.
It is one of the great ironies of recent centuries
that non-religious sources of wisdom have served so
well as true sources of moral wisdom, commonly
supposed to emanate exclusively from religious sources.
The fact that you have been unable to gain the
slightest traction for your attempts to revive
a more barbaric understanding of morality, that has
been largely rejected for just cause, demonstrates
how erroneous they were and how irrelevant they are.
And you.
You cannot even gain credence from the relatively small
measure of people who actually accept Joseph Smith's
writings as scripture as you do!
You are just another religion-monger, trying your
best to conjure up a universe ruled over by a deity,
with yourself being a very special person in it.
It's an impossible act to pull off without an actual
deity, and getting harder to pull off as the centuries
roll by. Sooner or later, as the saying goes, one
of us is going to start looking pretty stupid, and it
won't be me.
After all, you're the man who keeps making all the
threats and predictions that don't come to pass,
does all the boasting about scientific prowess you
don't really possess.
I'll tell you something. If you really were a
scientific genius, I would give your religious ideas
a chance. The fact that your "science" is so defective
guarantees that you are not inspired by a genuine deity.
Smith's assertions about testable real world history
discounts him as well. He only succeeded in spreading it
because of a charismatic character, remarkable wordsmithing
and oratory ability, and the fact that he lived among a
rather uneducated, superstitious, and gullible people.
And, perhaps most of all because of Brigham Young and Utah,
without which Mormonism would most likely have wound up
a dead sect in time, instead of an empire.
For all this, though, Smith's assertions about real
world history are surely discredited bit by bit,
instead of surely supported bit by bit. The chance
that it will stand the test of time is nil.
His greatest achievement is in building a religion
from the ground up using new scripture, tapping into
the zeitgeist of a new nation that wanted new religion,
and giving them one that appealed because it seemed
to be give to them in the manner they imagined Old
Testament religion was given to those long ago.
Arguably the greatest literary achievement of the
19th century and maybe more, but certainly not
enough to make his religion true.
If ever a prophet comes along who is truly given
testable knowledge to impart to us about the real
world, it will be obvious that this is so, and will
not require convolutions of thought to be believed,
will not need to stand merely as plausible for lack
of convincing truth, and most of all, will not require
us to abandon loving and inclusive teachings for
savage divisive ones.
We've been down that road ten thousand times.
Deities do not live there, only dead religions
and the vanities and ambitions of power-mad men,
some of them geniuses, but none of them what
they claimed to be.
RetroProphet wrote:
> Aaron Kim has pointed out how the Internet can
> carry the good news of Art Bulla to the entire
> world with a single keystroke.
>
> I wonder what would happen if this was posted to
> every religious newsgroup...
Sounds good to me.
Aaron
>
>Sounds good to me.
>
>Aaron
>
>www.artbulla.com
Art didn't seem too keen on the idea.
Are you going to do it?
>>> "Art Bulla is a true prophet of God by revelations
>>> which anyone can inquire if they humble themselves
>>> and pray if Art is the One Mighty and Strong.
>>> Jesus is Messiah to Judah, Art is Messiah to Ephraim."
>>>
>>> Aaron Kim, Apostle of Art Bulla
>>>
>>> www.artbulla.com
>>>
>>> ===
>
>
>>
>>Sounds good to me.
>>
>>Aaron
>>
>>www.artbulla.com
>
>
> Art didn't seem too keen on the idea.
> Are you going to do it? (Preach to the whole world).
>Damning is not persecution? What do you call it,
>when you claim not to even need to warn most who
>would be damned of their impending damnation, save
>in whispers to those you yourself favor? Sounds worse
>than persection to me; Persecution does not affect
>one's afterlife.
>As for my own beliefs, you know that I am an atheist.
>Lack of belief in an afterlife does not imply
>"no accountability for actions."
You deny the Holy Ghost, do you not? The is bigotry, not intelligence.
What evidence do you have that the things of the spirit do not exist?
Nothing, but inviniclbe ignorance, and a rebellious and haughty attitude
which is arrayed against God. Persecution implies the persecutee is
rightheous and the persecutor is wicked, you God damned squirming nitwit.
The wicked are punished by God, not "persecuted", you pinheaded fool, always
playing word games, twitsting the language and wresting everything away from
its true meaning. As to your charge, the House of Isreael has been
scattered from one end of the earth to the other, therefore if the word goes
from one end of the earth to the otherr it is with the aim of gathering
Israel out of Babylon. Then it is on their own heads if they do not obey the
voice of God, saith the Lord.
10 But behold, the life of my servant shall be in my hand; therefore they
shall not hurt him, although he shall be marred because of them. Yet I will
heal him, for I will show unto them that my wisdom is greater than the
cunning of the devil.
11 Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my
words, who am Jesus Christ, which the Father shall cause him to bring forth
unto the Gentiles, and shall give unto him power that he shall bring them
forth unto the Gentiles, (it shall be done even as Moses said) they shall be
cut off from among my people who are of the covenant.
12 And my people who are a remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles,
yea, in the midst of them as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a
young lion among the flocks of sheep, who, if he go through both treadeth
down and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.
13 Their hand shall be lifted up upon their adversaries, and all their
enemies shall be cut off.
14 Yea, wo be unto the Gentiles except they repent; for it shall come to
pass in that day, saith the Father, that I will cut off thy horses out of
the midst of thee, and I will destroy thy chariots;
15 And I will cut off the cities of thy land, and throw down all thy
strongholds;
16 And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thy land, and thou shalt have no
more soothsayers;
17 Thy graven images I will also cut off, and thy standing images out of the
midst of thee, and thou shalt no more worship the works of thy hands;
18 And I will pluck up thy groves out of the midst of thee; so will I
destroy thy cities.
19 And it shall come to pass that all lyings, and deceivings, and envyings,
and strifes, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, shall be done away.
20 For it shall come to pass, saith the Father, that at that day whosoever
will not repent and come unto my Beloved Son, them will I cut off from among
my people, O house of Israel;
21 And I will execute vengeance and fury upon them, even as upon the
heathen, such as they have not heard.
22 But if they will repent and hearken unto my words, and harden not their
hearts, I will establish my church among them, and they shall come in unto
the covenant and be numbered among this the remnant of Jacob, unto whom I
have given this land for their inheritance;
23 And they shall assist my people, the remnant of Jacob, and also as many
of the house of Israel as shall come, that they may build a city, which
shall be called the New Jerusalem.
24 And then shall they assist my people that they may be gathered in, who
are scattered upon all the face of the land, in unto the New Jerusalem.
(Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 21:10 - 24)
"Straight is the gate and narrow is the way, and few there be that find it."
Jesus of Nazareth. I care not for man, but it is my God whom I fear and
obey, whom I have seen while caught up. God is no politician. Besides, can
you do anything more to me than the Jews did to the Only Begotten Son of
God?
Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Six 1843-44 Pg.364
The Savior said when these tribulations should take place, it should be
committed to a man who should be a witness over the whole world: the keys of
knowledge, power and revelations should be revealed to a witness who should
hold the testimony to the world. It has always been my province to dig up
hidden mysteries -- new things -- for my hearers. ... All the testimony is
that the Lord in the last days would commit the keys of the Priesthood to a
witness over all people.
3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I
will make an everlasting covenant with you, [even] the sure mercies of
David.
4 Behold, I have given him [for] a witness to the people, a leader and
commander to the people.
5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation [that] thou knowest not, and nations
[that] knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and
for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.
6 ś Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is
near:
7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and
let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our
God, for he will abundantly pardon.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 55:3 - 7)
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a
witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
(New Testament | Matthew 24:12 - 14)
1 WOE to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious
beauty [is] a fading flower, which [are] on the head of the fat valleys of
them that are overcome with wine!
2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, [which] as a tempest of
hail [and] a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing,
shall cast down to the earth with the hand.
3 The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim, shall be trodden under
feet:
(Old Testament | Isaiah 28:1 - 3)
5 ś In that day shall the LORD of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a
diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people,
(Old Testament | Isaiah 28:5)
7 ś But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out
of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they
are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they
err in vision, they stumble [in] judgment.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 28:7)
22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I
have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon
the whole earth.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 28:22)
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my
people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her
plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her
iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according
to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much
torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and
am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and
famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong [is] the Lord
God who judgeth her.
(New Testament | Revelation 18:4 - 8)
3 Wherefore, the things of which I have read are things pertaining to things
both temporal and spiritual; for it appears that the house of Israel, sooner
or later, will be scattered upon all the face of the earth, and also among
all nations.
4 And behold, there are many who are already lost from the knowledge of
those who are at Jerusalem. Yea, the more part of all the tribes have been
led away; and they are scattered to and fro upon the isles of the sea; and
whither they are none of us knoweth, save that we know that they have been
led away.
5 And since they have been led away, these things have been prophesied
concerning them, and also concerning all those who shall hereafter be
scattered and be confounded, because of the Holy One of Israel; for against
him will they harden their hearts; wherefore, they shall be scattered among
all nations and shall be hated of all men.
6 Nevertheless, after they shall be nursed by the Gentiles, and the Lord has
lifted up his hand upon the Gentiles and set them up for a standard, and
their children have been carried in their arms, and their daughters have
been carried upon their shoulders, behold these things of which are spoken
are temporal; for thus are the covenants of the Lord with our fathers; and
it meaneth us in the days to come, and also all our brethren who are of the
house of Israel.
7 And it meaneth that the time cometh that after all the house of Israel
have been scattered and confounded, that the Lord God will raise up a mighty
nation among the Gentiles, yea, even upon the face of this land; and by them
shall our seed be scattered.
(Book of Mormon | 1 Nephi 22:3 - 7)
news:d83cv...@drn.newsguy.com...
>>>
>>>Sounds good to me.
>>>
>>>Aaron
>>>
>>>www.artbulla.com
>>>
>>
>> Art didn't seem too keen on the idea.
>> Are you going to do it? (Preach to the whole world).
>>
>> So, which is it? The Lord has clearly given
>> you a message for the entire world, everyone
>> in it.
>>
>> Why do you then claim need to only preach it to
>> some arbitrary fraction?
>>
>> As for you not persecuting "anyone for their
>> religious beliefs," there is clearly persecuting
>> at some future juncture, according to you, for
>> all who do not accept you as a messiah "shall
>> be damned."
>>
>> Damning is not persecution? What do you call it,
>> when you claim not to even need to warn most who
>> would be damned of their impending damnation, save
>> in whispers to those you yourself favor? Sounds worse
>> than persection to me; Persecution does not affect
>> one's afterlife.
>>
>> RetroProphet
>>
>Persecution implies the persecutee is rightheous and
>the persecutor is wicked, you God damned squirming nitwit.
>The wicked are punished by God, not "persecuted", you
>pinheaded fool, always playing word games, twitsting the
>language and wresting everything away from its true meaning.
>As to your charge, the House of Isreael has been scattered
>from one end of the earth to the other, therefore if the word
>goes from one end of the earth to the other it is with the
>aim of gathering Israel out of Babylon. Then it is on their
>own heads if they do not obey the voice of God, saith the
>Lord.
It is you who is playing word games.
You are not claiming merely that God said the wicked
will be punished, you are claiming that God said that
ANYONE WHO DOESN'T ACCEPT YOU AS A MESSIAH will be
punished by God. Big difference.
I pointed out that if such were the case both you
and God would be guilty of a form of persecution
against righteous people IF you did not make a
strong effort to spread this message to the whole
world INSTEAD OF JUST MORMONS. And then, I asked if
you were going to do this, as you seemed to not want
to do this, to be reluctant and indifferent, that
you preach only "to the House of Israel, not gentiles."
As you still seem to be. What do you mean by
"IF the word goes from one end of the earth to
the other it is with the aim of gathering Israel
out of Babylon. Then it is on their own heads if
they do not obey the voice of God, saith the Lord."
IF?? Is it not your responsibility to spend a good
deal of effort to seeing to it that the word reaches
ALL MEN? "Therefore, I, Art Bulla, having authority,
command all men everywhere."
So, DO you intend to spread the word of the fact that
God will damn anyone who does not accept you as a Messiah?
How can you pretend to "command all men everywhere"
in the name of God, if you do not make great efforts
to actually do so?
Wouldn't God insist that you do so, after authorizing
you to do so?