The Coming reign of PC on Arm
Art Bulla
of the wicked who are cut to the heart complaining incessantly, and the
weak-kneed cave in and compromise as they have always done when confronted
by persecution. PC (politically correct speech) which is nothing more than
the fascism of the devil and the godless left is taking over the church,
i.c. feminists, leftist negros, homosexuals, atheists, murderers, sorcerers,
adulterers, liars, etc. The Lord says that these who have complained are the
vilest of men and are are those devoid of truth who have nothing in their
arsenal but slander and persecution, since they are not furnished with the
word of God, but slander, name-calling and persecution in the form of PC
censorship. The truth they consider defamatory because it is an arrow to
their corrupt hearts, and they fear and tremble because of it. No vampire
in horror films could frear a crucifix more than the so-called "liberals"
who are the most intolerant of mankind, saith the Lord. The Lord says this
imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as I
brandish it like a sword. But Parley P. Pratt said "You may as well shut up
a fire in a pile of wood chips than shut up a man who has the testimony of
Jesus (the spirit of prophecy). When Joseph was Prime Minister of Pharoah,
the Hyskos (who invented the chariot, and other high tech for that time) who
were white, descendants of Shem, and cousins of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob,
(semitic means Shemitic, descendants of Shem or Melchizedec). But at the
time of Moses the Hyskos of Egypt were replaced by a black Pharoah who
enslaved the Hebrews (Eber, the son of Shem, Ebrews, means descendants of
Eber). This black Pharonic power is threatening to take away your liberty
for if these once again who are inspired of the devil, saith the Lord, are
allowed to reign, your speech and your liberty guaranteed by Ephraim, the
founding fathers, who are Ephraim, saith the Lord, Thomas Jefferson,
Washington, Franklin, et al, who manifested the racial characteristic of
Ephraim in fighting for the liberty of all mankind, will be lost, saith the
Lord. So sit still and do nothing and the devil will put you in a worse
slavery than black Pharoah did to Israel for 400 years, turning nature on
its head. For nature and nature's God decreed that Israel shall rule and
that Cainan (son of Ham) shall be his servant (see Genesis 9). But you are
only ripening for destruction when the fullness of the wrath of the Almighty
falls upon your heads, and you cannot escape his wrath, for the devil whom
you serve, ye politically correct, cannot resurrect anyone. So the meek
shall inherit the earth for all things which are of man shall be shaken and
thrown down. So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain what
they consider a temporary victory in shutting me up, for the courts are
corrupt and the wicked are justified by these atheist judges and are thus
fearless. But I also prophesy that I will shine brighter than the sun at
noonday, and the honest in heart will remember what is said, for God will
fight my battles for me. As proof the devil has inspired you PC crowd named
above to fight against Zion I provide the following:
From New Revelation, by Orson Pratt; The Seer; May 1854:
But the moment that God sent angels from heaven to earth, and raised up
inspired men, and once more restored the true Christian Church to the
earth, the devil, with all his combined armies of Catholics and Protestants,
(Polygamists, Latter-Day Saints) was enraged. For God to dare restore the
religion of the Bible again to the earth, by sending prophets and inspired
men, by giving visions, and by sending angels, as He did in all other ages
when His religion was on the earth, was more than the devil could bear
without making a tremendous exertion to put it down. To undertake to put it
down by scripture, reason or argument , was entirely in vain, though this
was attempted in some few instances at first, but it always resulted in the
most disastrous consequences to the devil's kingdom. The devil soon found
that there was not the least shadow of evidence to sustain the Catholic and
Protestant imposition against the doctrine of continued revelation. This
forlorn hope having utterly failed him, his next and most successful
operation was to ridicule and denounce the doctrine, and lie about it, and
if possible, to close the eyes and ears, and hearts of the people
effectually against it. But even in this thing he will be defeated; though
he may for a time triumph, yet the refuge of lies shall be swept away, and
God will show unto the honest in heart, with power and great glory that he
is the same, yesterday, today and forever, and that he is a God who delights
to reveal Himself by revelations , and dreams, and visions, and prophecies,
by the ministering of angels, and by the miraculous gifts and power of the
Holy Ghost. All who deny these things, and do them away, will be cut off
from among the people, (a prophecy of my advent, the One mighty and
strong--see Isaiah 28) and be sent down to hell to suffer with the devil who
has deceived them, and by whom they have been led captive to reject and deny
the gifts of the Holy Ghost and the powers and glory of God's kingdom.
If this generation are asked to give a reason for rejecting all
revelation later than John the Revelator's day, their answer is, almost
universally, "We have enough, and need no more;" and we reply, yes they have
enough to send them to hell, unless they will receive more, when God in
mercy offers it to them. The very Bible which they pretend is enough, will
rise up in judgment against apostate Christendom, and condemn them, be-cause
in it is taught the doctrine of continued revelation, which they have the
great wickedness to reject.
But why is the devil so angry with a church under the guidance of New
Revelation? Because he knows that a people who live near enough to the
Lord to receive information from Him, will receive by that means a knowledge
of all his cunning plans, and detect the cunning devices by which he has
blinded the nations of apostate Christendom so long. To have the ancient
and venerated systems of priestcraft exposed, and the false doctrines, which
he has taken so much pains to introduce and maintain for so many centuries,
overturned by the restoration of true Christianity again to the earth, is
calculated to make the hellish hosts and all under their influence, who
delight in darkness, to tremble with anxiety and through fear of the
consequences.
Fear and trembling seize upon the wicked priests, whenever the sound of
ancient Christianity, with its revelations, prophecies, visions and the
gifts and power of the Holy Ghost, approach their neighborhood. Their craft
is in danger--they fear for their rotten corrupt forms of religion--they
fear that the people will get their eyes open to discern the wide difference
between the religion of the Bible and their powerless forms invented by the
devil and his servants--they fear that their popularity will wane, and their
salaries be decreased or entirely fail them. To travel without purse or
script, as the Latter-Day and Former Day Saints have done, they cannot
afford to do. And then if they should do so, they would receive no reward,
but condemnation for preaching false doctrines among the people.
If they preach false doctrines they think that they must be well paid:
for it is the only reward that they can get, and bye and bye the end comes
and they are hewn down and cast into the fire: their motto, then is, to live
grand while they have the chance, and so long as they can delude the nations
with their apostate forms of religion (now we also have false science to
delude the nations, and does not the devil doubly exult in the conflict
between false science and false religion, the masses tossed to and fro on a
sea of contentious debate between classes of liars?), under the sacred garb
of Christianity, they have the prospect of waxing fat on the hard earnings
of their deluded victims.
No wonder then that ancient Christianity, taught by the humble servant of
God, as the Holy Ghost gives him utterance, is like an arrow to the hearts
of such hypocritical impostors. Oh! how abhorrent and disgusting to a
humble servant of Christ, and to God, and to all His Holy angels, to see
Catholic and Protestants ministers enter their richly adorned churches (now
we have Cathedrals of Tomorrow, and other such nonsense as Jimmy Swaggert
and other liars on TV!) and chapels, and there pretend to worship God, when
they are as destitute of almost every feature of ancient Christianity as the
devil and his angels. The days are not far distant when such base
hypocrites, and all that will suffer themselves to be deceived by them, will
be cast down by devouring fire, that their impositions, and their
hypocrisies, and their corruptions, and all their filthiness and
abominations, may cease to come up before the Lord of Hosts.
Tremble and fear! for if there ever were a generation that had need to
tremble and fear, it is the present--Tell about this being an enlightened
age--an age of gospel light! Never was there an age of greater darkness
(Brigham Young said it is the common delusion of every generation to think
itself more progressive and enlightened than previous ones, and here is the
proof, O vain modern man, who art also deluded as others before thee, saith
the Lord God of Isaiah) since man was created upon the earth so far as it
regards the religion of heaven (You ought to behold the present one, Orson,
for I am he who was prophesied to come to do battle against false science
and easily against priestcraft, for their craft today also contradicts the
Bible, which they also profess to rely upon). It is the very age predicted
by Isaiah, the Prophet, when "darkness should cover the earth and gross
darkness the minds of the people;" it is a day of thick darkness--darkness
that has been accumulating for centuries , through the abominations
practiced by the apostate nations of Christendom. Not even one ray of light
from heaven has forced its passage through the dark, gloomy dismal night
with which they have been for centuries enshrouded, until an angel
penetrated the depths and brought to light that treasure the Book of
Mormon--and raised up inspired men by which light from heaven again shines
on our earth.
But so great are the mists of darkness, that this generation do not perceive
the light. "The light shineth in darkness, but the darkness comprhendeth it
not."
"An age of light!" Oh tell it not in the face of high heaven! Where
are your holy apostles inspired from heaven to speak the word of the Lord in
the ears of fallen man? Where are your prophets to lift up their voices by
the word of the Lord, and warn the nations of approaching danger? Where are
your Seers enwrapt in the visions of the Almighty (I have seen the Father
and spoken face to face with him in the vision), bringing to light things
both new and old (I have received two volumes of scripture authoritatively
for Israel as anciently), opening the grand events of futurity, and
unlocking the hidden mysteries of the heavenly world? Where now is the
voice of inspiration, and the voice of angels (I have been visited by two)
to salute the ears of mortal man with glad tidings of great joy? Where now
are the gifts of healing -the opening of the eyes of the blind--the
unstopping of the ears of the deaf-- the speaking with other tongues, and
all the miraculous gifts and powers of Holy Ghost? They are not to be as
enjoyed by the Latter-day Saints (1854, the modern ones have departed from
the Lord). Will Christendom have the unblushing impudence to call
themselves the people of God, when they are destitute of all these most
precious gifts promised in the gospel? "An age of light!" Oh shame! Oh
impudence! when will you cease to call evil good? How long will the heavens
suffer such wickedness to go unpunished!
"And age of light!"--"a Christian nation!" Go to all your large cities
throughout the land--find one, if you can, where there are not whoredoms
(now we have an even greater abomination, forced governmental racial mixing
with the black and filthy race of Cain, the first murderer calculated by
rich and lying politicians and newsmen to get gain by robbing the white and
delightsome race, Israel, of its future birthright and incurring the curse
of Cain upon them and their posterity forever, all urged on by Black devils
guised in ministers garb shouting glory and praise to the God of Pharaoh,
who was as black in his mind as they, and the white masses caving into this
delusion as before . the flood, for thus saith the Lord, the black race of
Cain sought to mix with the white and delightsome race that the Curse upon
Cain was in danger of being spread over all the face of the earth, and it
was that rather than the earth become lost, I the Lord God did send in the
flood upon them that the inheritance of mine anointed might be preserved.)
But God suffers you thus to corrupt yourselves, because you love darkness
and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and false doctrines and every evil work.
He will suffer you until your golden cup is full and running over, that he
may visit you with a more speedy and awful judgment, and blot out your name
from under heaven! Then shall the holy apostles and prophets, and all the
heavens rejoice over your downfall; for you shall fall to rise no more.
At the present time, so great is your wickedness, that silence reigns
in heaven, and all eternity is pained, and the angels are waiting with
longing anxiety for the great command to reap down the harvest of the earth,
and bind the tares in bundles and give them to the burning flame1 And if
you will not listen to the warning voice, and repent, the servants of God
will not cease their cries to the heavens, until God shall come out of his
hiding place, and make a full end, that the earth may be cleansed and rest
for a season.
How is it, that you will not awake to a sense of the awful condition
that you are in? How is it, that you will close your eyes to the signs of
the times, (Civil war was poured out upon them in punishment by the Lord for
killing Joseph and Hyrum, my beloved brethren, the Prophets and Seers of
Jacob, yea, even Israel) and not perceive the day of your visitation? How
is it, that you will not pay any attention to that which belongs to your
peace? How is it, that you can be so hard in your hearts and blind in your
minds that you cannot perceive the hand of the Lord in bringing to light
the sacred Records of the ancient Israelites who dwelt upon this continent?
Why do you condemn the most excellent work upon popular rumour, without even
reading one page of its contents? Why will you be proud in your hearts and
exalt yourselves above all other nations, and boast of your own strength as
a nation, and imagine that no evil will come upon you, though you continue
in your wickedness? (Was not Brother Orson a prophet in this regard, even as
I am, for I, being moved upon mightily by the Spirit of Revelation, and
Prophecy, do hereby prophesy such great destruction upon this the North
American continent that the tongue cannot portray the scene of anguish, and
this shall be because of the wickedness of the inhabitants of the land as
before, and it shall be racial conflict between the abominable black son of
Cain and the equally wretched red-necked gentile, saith the Lord, that it
shall make Civil War seem civil in comparison, for they even they, saith the
Lord, shall feed upon each other's flesh in that day as in the day that the
Nephite and Lamanite warriors fed upon the flesh of their victims as
recorded in the Book of Mormon as a testimony to this nation of bigots of
their pattern in their destruction as a nation, for thus saith the Lord,
they, even they shall be hewn down just in like manner as the two other
nations whose inhabitants have covered the land also as thine, O ye great
big Gentile). Why not discern and understand that it is God that has made
you a strong and powerful nation, and not yourselves? It is God that
setteth up and pulleth down.
If you would repent, as He requires you in the Book of Mormon, you would
continue to be blessed upon the land; but if you obey not and reject His
word, He will certainly visit you as it is written. Oh, then, why will you
not repent? it will certainly do you no harm to repent, and forsake false
doctrines and every species of wickedness. If you repent and call upon the
Lord even as our pilgrim fathers did, when they first came to this land, God
will be merciful unto you and prolong your blessings in the land.-- Even
though you in your darkness may suppose the Book of Mormon (and the
Book--The Revelations of Jesus Christ) an imposition, you certainly will be
on the safe side if you repent and do as that book (those books) require.
If this new revelation required you to do something that was evil, you
would have some reason for distrusting it and paying no attention to it;
but when it requires you to repent, and forsake every evil practice, and
sets forth your evils and abominations plainly before your eyes, of which
you yourselves know that you are guilty, where is your excuse for not
obeying, even though you may think that it is the work of man? If it be the
work of man, can you be excused, and will God overlook all the sins which
you know you are guilty of and which that book accuses you of, and which it
requires you to repent of? No: you have no excuse; you well know that you
ought to repent of every evil of which (those books) accuse you; and that
God will in no wise acquit the guilty. And if you already know this, how
much more ought you to fear when a professed revelation makes its appearance
threatening you with awful and speedy judgment, if you do not repent.
Oh my nation! the inhabitants of this beautiful and lovely country!
open your ears to the voice of your bowels of compassion yearn over
you--whose voice is to all the inhabitants of the land calling upon them to
repent, and turn away from all their iniquities, and be rebaptized in His
name for the remission of sins, that they may be filled with the Holy Ghost.
Then shall ye know His voice, and the voice of his servants, and the voice
of his spirit: for the spirit is light, and maketh manifest the truth, and
if it be in you, you shall be the children of the light and not walk in
darkness.
Now what man is there in all this nation that will not acknowledge that
repentance would not only be beneficial to individuals, but to the whole
nation? Why then condemn the (The Revelations of Jesus Christ) Book of
Mormon, for calling upon you to do that which you know would be beneficial?
But, you may reply, the Book of Mormon (Ibid) professes to be a New
Revelation, and we do not believe in new revelation, (or we do not believe a
man from the east with such an unlikely name as Art Bulla can get it, for he
should be able to cut off an arm or some other member of the body and
restore it again or some other sign that the people may know he has come
with power, before we will believe) and therefor we will not repent--A poor
excuse indeed! that you will not do that which you acknowledge would be
beneficial, because you
Another thing should cause you to fear and tremble exceedingly.
You should remember that, that very book is substantiated to this generation
with far greater evidence than they have for any other revelation . To
reject so great evidence, and still remain in your sins will be presumptuous
on your part.
Again, every man in the nation has the privilege on condition of
repentance and obedience of receiving the Holy Ghost, which will most
assuredly guide them into all truth, and bear record unto them of the truth
of this New Revelation, so that they may have the same knowledge of the
divine Authenticity of the Record as they have of any other truth. To know
a thing to be true certainly would impart more happiness and joy, than to
remain in uncertainty and doubt. A knowledge of the truth will give
stability to the mind, so that it will not fluctuate to and fro with every
wind of doctrine, invented by the cunning craftiness of uninspired men. Is
there any excuse therefore, for any man in the nation when it is within the
power of all to obtain the most perfect knowledge that the (Revelations of
Jesus Christ) Book of Mormon is a revelation from God? And especially when
this knowledge is to be obtained by doing that which every man will
acknowledge ought to be done, and which all see would be beneficial both to
individuals and to the nation to do?
Orson Pratt, The Seer, May 1854. Published Washington, D.C.
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Scott Marquardt
Oh this is priceless.
>The Lord says this
>imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as I
>brandish it like a sword.
Kinda proves you're a false prophet then, Art, because there's no "imposed
moderation" coming. Your "Lord" is in your imagination, or else he's not
very omniscient.
The post -- one of many over the years -- was a joke. The same post
appeared a couple months back while you were gone.
Art, you're playing the fool. Your paranoia is making the voices you hear
sound louder.
Get help.
- Scott
Scott Marquardt
Interesting, it looks like Art tried to cancel the post in order to make it
appear as if he never issued this word from "The Lord."
Here are the headers, though. Heck, I'll repost his entire post, too. Looks like
we have ourselves a false prophet, a poser with no discernment.
All that follows is from Art:
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I prophesy that nothing but PC speech will be allowed on arm as a result
of the wicked who are cut to the heart complaining incessantly, and the
weak-kneed cave in and compromise as they have always done when confronted
by persecution. PC (politically correct speech) which is nothing more than
the fascism of the devil and the godless left is taking over the church,
i.c. feminists, leftist negros, homosexuals, atheists, murderers, sorcerers,
adulterers, liars, etc. The Lord says that these who have complained are the
vilest of men and are are those devoid of truth who have nothing in their
arsenal but slander and persecution, since they are not furnished with the
word of God, but slander, name-calling and persecution in the form of PC
censorship. The truth they consider defamatory because it is an arrow to
their corrupt hearts, and they fear and tremble because of it. No vampire
in horror films could frear a crucifix more than the so-called "liberals"
who are the most intolerant of mankind, saith the Lord. The Lord says this
imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as I
Mike W
> news:sbacmvovucdrf4hac...@4ax.com...
> Subject: Proof that Art isn't a prophet
> Date: 15/09/2003 17:08 (EST)
> > "Scott Marquardt" <du...@dude.com> wrote in message
> > news:o9rbmvo5urh79ho9r...@4ax.com...
> > Subject: Proof that Art isn't a prophet
> > Date: 15/09/2003 12:52 (EST)
> > > "Art Bulla" <a...@artbulla.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ekl9b.12067$ok3.408...@twister2.starband.net...
> > > Subject: The Coming reign of PC on Arm
> > Oh this is priceless.
> > > The Lord says this imposed moderation is an attempt
> > > to shut up the truth, and shut me up as I brandish
> > > it like a sword.
> > Kinda proves you're a false prophet then, Art, because
> > there's no "imposed moderation" coming. Your "Lord" is
> > in your imagination, or else he's not very omniscient.
> >
> > The post -- one of many over the years -- was a joke.
> > The same post appeared a couple months back while you
> > were gone.
> >
> > Art, you're playing the fool. Your paranoia is making
> > the voices you hear sound louder.
> >
> > Get help.
> >
> > - Scott
> Interesting, it looks like Art tried to cancel the post in
> order to make it appear as if he never issued this word from
> "The Lord."
>
> Here are the headers, though. Heck, I'll repost his entire
> post, too. Looks like we have ourselves a false prophet,
> a poser with no discernment.
>
> All that follows is from Art:
> _______________________________________________
OK... I'm confused Scott. My news server already has that post (so, I
snipped it). I agree with your assessment of poor Art and his muddled mind.
That said, are you seeing ghosts in the chaos of usenet? Why did it appear
to be cancelled?
Both are on Google now, different subject headers so different threads. I
say, they really should investigate their threading methods. Thread things
according to intent and not subject header.
Mike
Scott Marquardt
>Both are on Google now, different subject headers so different threads. I
>say, they really should investigate their threading methods. Thread things
>according to intent and not subject header.
Agreed. It was an enormous policy decision on their part, and I'd say they
made a bad call -- one of the few google has made.
- Scott
Jong Kim
>
> Oh this is priceless.
>
> >The Lord says this
> >imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as
I
> >brandish it like a sword.
>
> Kinda proves you're a false prophet then, Art, because there's no "imposed
> moderation" coming. Your "Lord" is in your imagination, or else he's not
> very omniscient.
>
> The post -- one of many over the years -- was a joke. The same post
> appeared a couple months back while you were gone.
Now the Lord expressly declareth that this prank a.r.m. post merely served
as IMPETUS to deliver a warning through his servant Art Bulla to you all,
that the recent events, namely the defeat of Roy Moore in Alabama and the
passing of Senate Bill 60 that makes it possible for any person to obtain a
California driver license regardless of citizenship status, as well as this
week's ruling by a panel of three Federal judges to postpone the Oct. recall
election for the California governorship, even these things foreshadow a
reign of terror that will be imposed on the American people by their own
government.
In light of this understanding given of the Spirit, I just noticed that the
timing of Art Bulla's post "The Coming reign of PC on Arm" on Monday,
September 15, 2003 8:57 AM (whose thread has been altered into "Re: Proof
that Art isn't a prophet") preceded by just a few hours this most unjust and
unconstitutional intervention by a panel of 3 unholy Federal judges!
Revelations of Jesus Christ come not by man's own will but by the will of
God.
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye
take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn,
and the DAY STAR ARISE in your HEARTS:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private
interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the WILL of MAN: but holy men of
God spake [as they were] MOVED by the HOLY GHOST.
(New Testament | 2 Peter 1:19 - 21)
Here in a.r.m., where the wicked desire to silence the lone voice of truth
(O if only they could make it happen, give this Art Bulla an hemlock potion
for disturbing their peace), though the prank post may not necessarily have
been about Art Bulla, this evil found in a.r.m. is but a small reminder of
the great and far-reaching evil posed by present realities of American
government and politics.
The ultimate goal of the wicked in power is to keep truth from ever being
spoken out anywhere, including in the Internet, that the devil and his
servants in the flesh might triumph on the earth. Escaping to Idaho (as an
example) won't save you neither temporally nor spiritually, but seeking the
Lord God of Israel through sincere prayers of faith will, that you might
discern One that is mighty and strong for the salvation of Ephraim and
Manasseh, who are now scattered in North America. For if you do not gather
in one to Zion, you will surely perish in Babylon the great, for the State
of Idaho is also a part thereof, not just California, big cities, etc.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication,
and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the
merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her
delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT of HER, MY PEOPLE,
that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her
PLAGUES.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her
iniquities.
(New Testament | Revelation 18:3 - 5)
>
> Art, you're playing the fool. Your paranoia is making the voices you hear
> sound louder.
>
> Get help.
>
> - Scott
Therefore, the real message of Art's post is this, which you shamelessly
snipped out, having denied the Spirit of God:
"This black Pharonic power is threatening to take away your liberty for if
these once again who are inspired of the devil, saith the Lord, are allowed
to reign, your speech and your liberty guaranteed by Ephraim, the founding
fathers, who are Ephraim, saith the Lord, Thomas Jefferson, Washington,
Franklin, et al, who manifested the racial characteristic of
Ephraim in fighting for the liberty of all mankind, will be lost, saith the
Lord."
Later in this post, it reads (and I quote the following because the Holy
Ghost witnessed the truth of it just now, at 7:10 pm Pacific, Sep. 16,
2003):
"So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain what they consider
a temporary victory in shutting me up, for the COURTS are CORRUPT and the
WICKED are JUSTIFIED by these ATHEIST JUDGES and are thus fearless."
This was written just a matter of hours before the Federal judges' ruling to
delay the Oct. California gubernatorial recall election! Yes, the Spirit has
yet again manifested that Art Bulla is sent of Jesus Christ.
Therefore judge not unrighteously, calling blind the Lord's anointed that is
filled with light of the Spirit, but judge righteously so that ye, the ones
truly blind full of darkness and foolishness, might repent and be forgiven
of the Lord and thereby escape the judgments that will surely be poured out
from heaven without let upon Babylon.
This is not the first time this sort of false accusation has been hurled at
Art Bulla the servant of God, but the Lord has and will justify him in due
time, for even the following is now being fulfilled:
SECTION 72.
Revelation received August 8, 1993, Provo, Utah concerning those who claim
Art Bulla to be a false prophet because of the failure of his prophecy
concerning the outcome of the Persian Gulf War. It is a wicked and
adulterous generation that seeketh for a sign from heaven that they may
believe, saith the Lord.
1 Thus saith the Lord concerning that which is known among men as the
PERSIAN GULF, it is, saith the Lord, that because of the repentance of thy
nation, and the Presidency thereof, even George Bush, as he is known among
men, and also that they, this nation did also begin to return unto me, the
God thereof and did pray and fast as decreed by their President that it is
that I did not suffer them to be BROKEN in the DESERT as prophesied by my
servant Art, and this according to the pattern of them of old, even Ninevah
who did hearken unto my servant Jonah, and did turn from their evil way. And
thus my wrath was turned away from them, and was not Jonah confounded
thereby that in the depth of his soul he did protest unto me, the Lord his
God because of my longsuffering unto the children of men, that I the Lord
God am slow to anger, and not easily provoked? And thus he was wroth that I
destroyed not them of old as I have stayed my wrath concerning thee at this
time, saith the Lord. Therefor saith the Lord, them who call my servant a
false prophet because of these things do it because they are the SERVANTS of
SIN THEMSELVES, and they LAY a SNARE for MY SERVANT in VAIN, for I the Lord
God will justify him at that last day, saith the Lord, when their secret
works and abominations shall be made manifest, even him who is known as
Martin Tanner, and lawyers and false testators and them who commit LIES and
whoredoms as of old. Therefore it is that all who drive and testify against
my servants when they have done none other things than that which I the Lord
God COMMANDED them shall be severed from the ordinances of mine house, saith
the Lord, and shall be cut off from among the people as I the Lord God spake
in that day through the mouth of my servant Moses. For it is, saith the Lord
that they nor their posterity shall right unto the priesthood. Even so.
Amen.
Jong Kim
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<RFQ9b.142031$0v4.10...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Jong
Kim <jo...@artbulla.com> wrote:
> "Scott Marquardt" <du...@dude.com> wrote in message
> news:o9rbmvo5urh79ho9r...@4ax.com...
> > Art Bulla wrote:
> >
> > Oh this is priceless.
> >
> > >The Lord says this
> > >imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as
> I
> > >brandish it like a sword.
> >
> > Kinda proves you're a false prophet then, Art, because there's no "imposed
> > moderation" coming. Your "Lord" is in your imagination, or else he's not
> > very omniscient.
> >
> > The post -- one of many over the years -- was a joke. The same post
> > appeared a couple months back while you were gone.
>
> Now the Lord expressly declareth that this prank a.r.m. post merely served
> as IMPETUS to deliver a warning through his servant Art Bulla to you all,
> that the recent events, namely the defeat of Roy Moore in Alabama and the
> passing of Senate Bill 60 that makes it possible for any person to obtain a
> California driver license regardless of citizenship status, as well as this
> week's ruling by a panel of three Federal judges to postpone the Oct. recall
> election for the California governorship, even these things foreshadow a
> reign of terror that will be imposed on the American people by their own
> government.
LOL.
(snip)
> SECTION 72.
>
> Revelation received August 8, 1993, Provo, Utah concerning those who claim
> Art Bulla to be a false prophet because of the failure of his prophecy
> concerning the outcome of the Persian Gulf War. It is a wicked and
> adulterous generation that seeketh for a sign from heaven that they may
> believe, saith the Lord.
>
> 1 Thus saith the Lord concerning that which is known among men as the
> PERSIAN GULF, it is, saith the Lord, that because of the repentance of thy
> nation, and the Presidency thereof, even George Bush, as he is known among
> men, and also that they, this nation did also begin to return unto me, the
> God thereof and did pray and fast as decreed by their President that it is
> that I did not suffer them to be BROKEN in the DESERT as prophesied by my
> servant Art
Oh my!
He couldn't even guess the outcome of the Gulf War?!?!?!
Your average ten year old could have known that.
You guys are great! It was getting a little boring here, I haven't
laughed this hard for weeks. Thanks!
--
Cheers,
Don Marchant
dangerous1.com
think global, act loco
Scott Marquardt
>"Scott Marquardt" <du...@dude.com> wrote in message
>news:o9rbmvo5urh79ho9r...@4ax.com...
>> Art Bulla wrote:
>>
>> Oh this is priceless.
>>
>> >The Lord says this
>> >imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as
>I
>> >brandish it like a sword.
>>
>> Kinda proves you're a false prophet then, Art, because there's no "imposed
>> moderation" coming. Your "Lord" is in your imagination, or else he's not
>> very omniscient.
>>
>> The post -- one of many over the years -- was a joke. The same post
>> appeared a couple months back while you were gone.
>
>Now the Lord expressly declareth that this prank a.r.m. post merely served
>as IMPETUS to deliver a warning through his servant Art Bulla to you all,
LOL!
Art specifically says "The Lord says" that "this imposed moderation is an
attempt to shut up the truth, and shut [Art] up as [he brandishes] it like
a sword."
Did the Lord say that, or not, Jong?
If he did, he was wrong. If he didn't, Art lied. And anyway, what does the
joke about moderation have to do with being an impetus to "warn" "you all"
about this, for heaven's sakes:
>that the recent events, namely the defeat of Roy Moore in Alabama and the
>passing of Senate Bill 60 that makes it possible for any person to obtain a
>California driver license regardless of citizenship status, as well as this
>week's ruling by a panel of three Federal judges to postpone the Oct. recall
>election for the California governorship, even these things foreshadow a
>reign of terror that will be imposed on the American people by their own
>government.
>In light of this understanding given of the Spirit, I just noticed that the
>timing of Art Bulla's post "The Coming reign of PC on Arm" on Monday,
>September 15, 2003 8:57 AM (whose thread has been altered into "Re: Proof
>that Art isn't a prophet") preceded by just a few hours this most unjust and
>unconstitutional intervention by a panel of 3 unholy Federal judges!
ROFL!
Dude, you guys are a hoot. You manage to snatch ludicrousness from the jaws
of defeat. Only you guys could be this entertaining.
>Here in a.r.m., where the wicked desire to silence the lone voice of truth
>(O if only they could make it happen, give this Art Bulla an hemlock potion
>for disturbing their peace), though the prank post may not necessarily have
>been about Art Bulla, this evil found in a.r.m. is but a small reminder of
>the great and far-reaching evil posed by present realities of American
>government and politics.
Evil?
Dude, you only think it's evil 'cause you guys are (a) dumb enough to think
it was real -- even when it had spoiler space and an explicit disclaimer at
the bottom! and (b) dumb enough to start prophecying about it.
>Therefore, the real message of Art's post is this, which you shamelessly
>snipped out, having denied the Spirit of God:
<snip>
>Later in this post, it reads (and I quote the following because the Holy
>Ghost witnessed the truth of it just now, at 7:10 pm Pacific, Sep. 16,
>2003):
>
>"So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain what they consider
>a temporary victory in shutting me up, for the COURTS are CORRUPT and the
>WICKED are JUSTIFIED by these ATHEIST JUDGES and are thus fearless."
>
>This was written just a matter of hours before the Federal judges' ruling to
>delay the Oct. California gubernatorial recall election! Yes, the Spirit has
>yet again manifested that Art Bulla is sent of Jesus Christ.
ROFL!
Jong, how does that ruling constitued a "temporary victory in shutting
[Art] up?"
If it did, does this mean we won't hear from Art for a while? Based on what
you're saying now, Art's a false prophet if the 9th circuit didn't actually
shut him up somehow.
So Art's not going to post for a few days, right? And when he comes back,
what's going to be the connection, the reason he wasn't posting on account
of the 9th circuit's actions?
>This is not the first time this sort of false accusation has been hurled at
>Art Bulla the servant of God,
False? The words are there for anyone to read, Jong. Art said "the Lord"
said that the moderation was an attempt to shut him up. And there is no
moderation.
You guys can't spin this one.
Jong, wise up.
- Scott
Scott Marquardt
> [...] as well as this
>week's ruling by a panel of three Federal judges to postpone the Oct. recall
>election for the California governorship, even these things foreshadow a
>reign of terror that will be imposed on the American people by their own
>government.
BTW, if you want a reign of terror in CA, elect the feller who once said
that the best thing in life is "to crush your enemies, see them driven
before you, and hear the weeping and lamentation of the women!"
One Mighty and Strong, indeed.
- Scott
Art Bulla
and will continue to try to shut me up? There would be a Berlin PC wall put
up if in your power. These things are, saith the Lord, taking over.
Prophecy is conditional, upon the obedience or disobedience of the people.
It is a wicked and adulterous generation that seeks for a sign. This is the
word of the Lord, a warning unto you, for I am unshaken, having all the
evidences presented to me. This is the word of the Lord to you, for you are
a gentile and a fool.
17 And if there be faults they be the faults of a man. But behold, we know
no fault; nevertheless God knoweth all things; therefore, he that
condemneth, let him be aware lest he shall be in danger of hell fire.
18 And he that saith: Show unto me, or ye shall be smitten-let him beware
lest he commandeth that which is forbidden of the Lord.
19 For behold, the same that judgeth rashly shall be judged rashly again;
for according to his works shall his wages be; therefore, he that smiteth
shall be smitten again, of the Lord.
20 Behold what the scripture says-man shall not smite, neither shall he
judge; for judgment is mine, saith the Lord, and vengeance is mine also, and
I will repay.
21 And he that shall breathe out wrath and strifes against the work of the
Lord, and against the covenant people of the Lord who are the house of
Israel, and shall say: We will destroy the work of the Lord, and the Lord
will not remember his covenant which he hath made unto the house of
Israel-the same is in danger to be hewn down and cast into the fire;
22 For the eternal purposes of the Lord shall roll on, until all his
promises shall be fulfilled.
(Book of Mormon | Mormon 8:17 - 22)
These things are not my imagination. For a long catalogue of abuses please
see http://www.artbulla.com/zion/complaint.doc. If you knew my history...
for I confounded all of Utah while on the radio there and they had to shut
me up. The devil must put the truth down. So deny this and once again you
will be shown for what you are. a contemptible liar. You resort to slander,
having no other recourse, being ignorant you cannot argue from the
scriptures intelligently. I am receiving a revelation this second. Here is
what the Lord thinks concerning you and his judgment on the matter:
20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed,
and all that watch for iniquity are cut off:
21 That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that
reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.
22 Therefore thus saith the LORD, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house
of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax
pale.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 29:20 - 22)
23 And I said unto him: Lord, the Gentiles will mock at these things,
because of our weakness in writing; for Lord thou hast made us mighty in
word by faith, but thou hast not made us mighty in writing; for thou hast
made all this people that they could speak much, because of the Holy Ghost
which thou hast given them;
24 And thou hast made us that we could write but little, because of the
awkwardness of our hands. Behold, thou hast not made us mighty in writing
like unto the brother of Jared, for thou madest him that the things which he
wrote were mighty even as thou art, unto the overpowering of man to read
them.
25 Thou hast also made our words powerful and great, even that we cannot
write them; wherefore, when we write we behold our weakness, and stumble
because of the placing of our words; and I fear lest the Gentiles shall mock
at our words.
26 And when I had said this, the Lord spake unto me, saying: Fools mock, but
they shall mourn; and my grace is sufficient for the meek, that they shall
take no advantage of your weakness;
(Book of Mormon | Ether 12:23 - 26)
You are perfectly free, queer, to ripen in iniquity. You crucify the Lord
afresh because you have denied the Holy Ghost, and have made it your hobby
to put him to an open shame, because your deeds are evil, and to get the
praise of some sycophants. You say those things to my face, as the libelous
press in Nauvoo, and I would knock you on your ass as did Joseph. You are a
coward. I would not be you for the world, for I know you to be a coward and
are suffering in your private hell even now, being in the gall of bitterness
and the bonds of iniquity. Not one thing has obviated the fact that I have
seen a vision, heard a voice that shook the ground, cast out deviles, healed
the sick, received many revelations, and received knowledge of the mysteries
from heaven.
6 Wherefore, we search the prophets, and we have many revelations and the
spirit of prophecy; and having all these witnesses we obtain a hope, and our
faith becometh unshaken, insomuch that we truly can command in the name of
Jesus and the very trees obey us, or the mountains, or the waves of the sea.
7 Nevertheless, the Lord God showeth us our weakness that we may know that
it is by his grace, and his great condescensions unto the children of men,
that we have power to do these things.
8 Behold, great and marvelous are the works of the Lord. How unsearchable
are the depths of the mysteries of him; and it is impossible that man should
find out all his ways. And no man knoweth of his ways save it be revealed
unto him; wherefore, brethren, despise not the revelations of God.
(Book of Mormon | Jacob 4:6 - 8)
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men
loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the
light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made
manifest, that they are wrought in God.
(New Testament | John 3:19 - 21)
. If you knew my history, you would know that I am correct. I once went
down to Temple Square during the flood down State St., having told a fellow
with me that the Journal of John Taylor was in the vault out of sight of
even the family of John Taylor. He did not believe me and went and asked
about it, and immediately security came and cast us out. For further
information on censorship I have endured at the hands of the wicked see
"Scott Marquardt" <do...@doot.com> wrote in message
news:50efmvcl3r3pap4r7...@4ax.com...
> Art Bulla wrote:
>
> > SECTION 2. True vs. false prophets.
>
> You mean like when you say "The Lord says this imposed moderation is an
> attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as I brandish it like a
sword"
> even though there's no imposed moderation?
>
> What kind of prophet claims the Lord's voice on something that turns out
to
> be a joke?
>
> - Scott
"Scott Marquardt" <do...@doot.com> wrote in message
news:1rlfmvcgrgd980t1a...@4ax.com...
Art Bulla
knowledge as to who is whom:
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit
searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is
in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 2:10 - 11)
Journal of Discourses, Vol.16, Pg.46, Brigham Young, May 18, 1873
My testimony is the positive. I know that there are such cities as London,
Paris, and New York--from my own experience or from that of others; I know
that the sun shines, I know that I exist and have a being, and I testify
that there is a God, and that Jesus Christ lives, and that he is the Savior
of the World. Have you been to heaven and learned to the contrary? I know
that Joseph Smith was a Prophet of God, and that he had many revelations.
Who can disprove this testimony? Any one may dispute it, but there is no one
in the world who can disprove it. I have had many revelations; I have seen
and heard for myself, and know these things are true, and nobody on earth
can disprove them. The eye, the ear, the hand, all the senses may be
deceived, but the Spirit of God cannot be deceived; and when inspired with
that Spirit, the whole man is filled with knowledge, he can see with a
spiritual eye, and he knows that which is beyond the power of man to
controvert. What I know concerning God, concerning the earth, concerning
government, I have received from the heavens, not alone through my natural
ability, and I give God the glory and the praise. Men talk about what has
been accomplished under my direction, and attribute it to my wisdom and
ability; but it is all by the power of God, and by intelligence received
from him. I say to the whole world, receive the truth, no matter who
presents it to you.
And you, having denied the Holy Ghost, are left to your foolish mocking,
hardly being objective, having an axe to grind (for you are queer) but
waiting and watching for any pimple or boil (again, for
you are a queer) and thus must perish, for you draw the wrong conclusion.
You have a beam in your eye which clouds your understanding and try to
remove a mote from mine, you fool!
Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 272, Brigham Young, May, 1853
I do not want men to come to me or my brethren for testimony as to the truth
of this work; but let them take the Scriptures of divine truth, and there
the path is pointed out to them as plainly as ever a guideboard indicated
the right path to the weary traveller. There they are directed to go, not
to Brothers Brigham, Heber, or Daniel, to any apostle or elder in Israel,
but to the Father in the name of Jesus, and ask for the information they
need. Can they who take this course in honesty and sincerity receive
information? Will the Lord turn away from the honest heart seeking for the
truth? No, He will not; He will prove to them, by the revelations of His
Spirit, the facts in the case. And when the mind is open to the revelations
of the Lord it comprehends them quicker and keener than anything that is
seen by the natural eye. It is not what we see with our eyes--they may be
deceived--but what is revealed by the Lord from Heaven is sure and
steadfast, and abides for ever. We do not want the people to rely on human
testimony, although that cannot be confuted and destroyed; still, there is a
more sure word of prophecy that all may gain if they will seek it earnestly
before the Lord. This is to my friends or my enemies who do not believe in
the Lord Jesus Christ and in the gospel which He has revealed in these days.
Now, mark my words, if you are honest to yourselves you will inquire as to
its truth. You are invited to inquire, and it is your duty to do so, of the
Father in the name of Jesus, if these things are so. "Well," say a great
many, "when Jesus was on the earth he wrought miracles." Very true, and
have we not done so? You read all the history of the world, laying aside
the Book of Mormon containing the history of the people who once inhabited
this continent, and you cannot produce anything that will compare with the
labors of this people in these mountains. Everything is thrown into the
shade when compared with it. Have we any witnesses with regard to the
healing of the sick by the power of God? Plenty of them. "O," say you, "we
do not know anything about that." We do not want you to know anything about
it until you learn for yourselves. Miracles, or these extraordinary
manifestations of the power of God, are not for the unbeliever; they are to
console the Saints, and to strengthen and confirm the faith of those who
love, fear, and serve God, and not for outsiders. When Jesus was spoken to
with regard to miracles, he said, "an evil and an adulterous generation
seeketh after a sign, and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign
of the Prophet Jonas," and this principle is as true with regard to
individuals as to generations. Here is the truth--God has spoken from the
heavens, calling upon the inhabitants of the earth to repent, and we call
upon them to repent.
"Scott Marquardt" <do...@doot.com> wrote in message
news:1rlfmvcgrgd980t1a...@4ax.com...
Goner
Art Bulla wrote:
> You are a fool as well, for you understand not what Jong relies upon for
> knowledge as to who is whom:
How, exactly did you explain this latest lie to Jong?
dangerous1
father of peace
>He couldn't even guess the outcome of the Gulf War?!?!?!
Is the Gulf War over already? Lots of Americans are still
dying over there.
Love,
Absalom
Scott Marquardt
>Do you deny you and your kind (a PC mob on the left)
LOL! So much for the discernment that should attend the prophetic calling.
Art, Art, Art. I think the genuine "PC" sensibility is the most stupid
nadir some segments of our culture have come to. On the other hand, your
rants seem to lump everything together into "PC," so it's hard to know what
*you* mean by the term.
>have tried in the past
>and will continue to try to shut me up?
No, I think you should shut yourself up after getting some psychological
help and coming to terms with whatever pathologies compel your delusional
rants.
No one feels any need to silence you, Art -- that's your paranoia speaking.
You haven't yet become enough of a pest to consider spam; in other words,
from a usenet standpoint, you're still cool. No one's going to stop you.
>These things are not my imagination. For a long catalogue of abuses please
>see http://www.artbulla.com/zion/complaint.doc. If you knew my history...
>for I confounded all of Utah while on the radio there and they had to shut
>me up. The devil must put the truth down. So deny this and once again you
>will be shown for what you are. a contemptible liar. You resort to slander,
>having no other recourse, being ignorant you cannot argue from the
>scriptures intelligently. I am receiving a revelation this second.
No, you're getting excited and your excellent memory is siezing upon some
passage that mirrors your current agitated mental state.
>Here is
>what the Lord thinks concerning you and his judgment on the matter:
>
>20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed,
>and all that watch for iniquity are cut off:
>
>21 That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that
>reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.
>
>22 Therefore thus saith the LORD, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house
>of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax
>pale.
>You are perfectly free, queer, to ripen in iniquity. You crucify the Lord
>afresh because you have denied the Holy Ghost, and have made it your hobby
>to put him to an open shame,
You're blaming the Holy Spirit for the way you said "the Lord says" about
the moderation joke?
Art, I'm not blaming the Holy Spirit for your error -- to the contrary, it
appears you are, here.
Forgot to switch to damage control mode for a second, I guess, and kept the
identification between the Holy Spirit and your mind in place, eh?
BTW, how do you figure I'm queer?
>because your deeds are evil, and to get the
>praise of some sycophants. You say those things to my face, as the libelous
>press in Nauvoo, and I would knock you on your ass as did Joseph. You are a
>coward.
Well hey, come meet me in Nauvoo and I'll buy you a soda pop. I'd be glad
to meet ya and talk about whatever you want to talk about. Give me a week
or two notice, and I'll see you there.
We never did have the bratfest we SRMers were going to have in Nauvoo, a
couple years back. Fell through for some reason. Maybe it should be an ARM
get together instead. Art, you could be the guest speaker -- provided you
kept an eye on your watch.
>I would not be you for the world, for I know you to be a coward and
>are suffering in your private hell even now, being in the gall of bitterness
>and the bonds of iniquity. Not one thing has obviated the fact that I have
>seen a vision, heard a voice that shook the ground, cast out deviles, healed
>the sick, received many revelations, and received knowledge of the mysteries
>from heaven.
OK, OK Art, I hear you.
- Scott
Scott Marquardt
>You are a fool as well, for you understand not what Jong relies upon for
>knowledge as to who is whom:
That first post didn't quite get it all out of your system then, I guess?
>And you, having denied the Holy Ghost, are left to your foolish mocking,
>hardly being objective, having an axe to grind (for you are queer)
How do you know, Art? Heck, am I one of these queers that doesn't even know
it myself, yet, after 43 years and four kids? I've heard tales of men who
come out of the closet late in life, but generally they've lived with a lot
of internal conflict all that time.
When do you reckon I'll come out, Art?
>but waiting and watching for any pimple or boil (again, for
>you are a queer)
Queers watch for pimples and boils? Art, this is surfacing some pretty
weird obsessive stuff. In all seriousness, get help.
>and thus must perish, for you draw the wrong conclusion.
>You have a beam in your eye which clouds your understanding and try to
>remove a mote from mine, you fool!
Art, did the Lord tell you "this imposed moderation is an attempt to shut
up the truth, and shut [Art] up as [he brandishes] it like a sword," or did
the Lord not tell you that?
Simple question, Art. No argument, no conclusion, no beam, no mote. Just a
chance for you to come clean.
Did the Lord tell you that "this imposed moderation is an attempt to shut
up the truth?"
- Scott
Scott Marquardt
I think the original gaffe was just Art being clueless, not lying. He's
lying to cover his tracks, though, which is compounding the problem. So now
we have a putative prophet who evokes the name of God in vain, and then
lies to distract from that fact.
False prophet, fer sure. If Jong can't see it, then it's apparent that Jong
isn't just brainwashed, he's also as pathologically far gone as Art.
- Scott
just wondering
Wouldn't you know it, here's the second post I've clicked on relating to
a Bulla-tin since he reared his head again, and the first thing I saw
was Art Fullabulla calling someone a fool, as if that will convince
anyone to his way of thinking.
Jong Kim
11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
12 To whom he said, This [is] the rest [wherewith] ye may cause the weary to
rest; and this [is] the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 28:11 - 12)
9 ś And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand
not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut
their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and
understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted
without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly
desolate,
12 And the LORD have removed men far away, and [there be] a great forsaking
in the midst of the land.
13 ś But yet in it [shall be] a tenth, and [it] shall return, and shall be
eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they
cast [their leaves: so] the holy seed [shall be] the substance thereof.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 6:9 - 13)
Having not the Spirit, the carnally minded wicked will surely stumble over
the word of the Lord transmitted through his servants the Prophets, unable
to discern the real intent of the revelations of Jesus Christ given in this
manner, and therefore it is the wicked that are caught in a snare, and only
when it's too late to repent will they know that the Lord ruleth over both
heaven and earth.
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the
letter, but of the spirit: for the LETTER KILLETH, but the SPIRIT GIVETH
LIFE.
(New Testament | 2 Corinthians 3:6)
38 And, in fine, WO unto all those who DIE in THEIR SINS; for they shall
RETURN to God, and behold his face, and remain in their sins.
39 O, my beloved brethren, remember the awfulness in transgressing against
that Holy God, and also the AWFULNESS of YIELDING to the ENTICINGS of that
CUNNING ONE. Remember, to be CARNALLY-MINDED is DEATH, and to be
SPIRITUALLY-MINDED is LIFE ETERNAL.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 9:38 - 39)
In light of these scriptures, the GIST of Art's post that you ridicule is
the following, which you have shamelessly snipped out time and time again:
"So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain what they consider
a temporary victory in shutting me up, for the COURTS are CORRUPT and the
WICKED are JUSTIFIED by these ATHEIST JUDGES and are thus fearless."
Amazing, in light of corrupt Federal judges unconstitutionally fighting
against Roy Moore in order to keep influencing public institutions to deny
the existence of God and against the recall election in California, hoping
to delay the gubernatorial election until the California Democratic primary
next year to get more Democrat-siding voters to show up for the recall
election, wherein the unjust ruling by these three judges was made just
hours after Art had written the above and also the following in the same
post:
"This black Pharonic power is threatening to take away your liberty for if
these once again who are inspired of the devil, saith the Lord, are allowed
to reign, your speech and your liberty guaranteed by Ephraim, the founding
fathers, who are Ephraim, saith the Lord, Thomas Jefferson, Washington,
Franklin, et al, who manifested the racial characteristic of Ephraim in
fighting for the liberty of all mankind, will be lost, saith the Lord."
I might also add that the Holy Ghost had witnessed to me of the truth of the
corrupt judges part of Art's post, this spiritual evidence had been granted
me at 7:10 pm Pacific, Sep. 16, 2003.
More of the same fulfillment of Isaiah 28:11 - 12 and of Isaiah 6:9 - 13 are
found in the following prophecy given through Art Bulla (which prophecy is
now being fulfilled to the letter in Iraq, in a most unexpected manner):
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Scott Marquardt
>> Simple question, Art. No argument, no conclusion, no beam, no mote. Just a
>> chance for you to come clean.
>> Did the Lord tell you that "this imposed moderation is an attempt to shut
>> up the truth?"
>11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
So Art's troubles are worse than most have suspected, then.
>In light of these scriptures, the GIST of Art's post that you ridicule is
>the following, which you have shamelessly snipped out time and time again:
Of course it's without shame. You post it to usenet, and there it is for
any to see. When I reply with a question concerning just one small sentence
in the post, I see no reason to leave a lot of Art's text in my reply. Your
reaction is kind of bizarre.
So I'll ask again -- is this claim of Art's true, or isn't it?
The Lord says this imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the
truth, and shut me up as I brandish it like a sword.
Did the Lord say that, or not?
It appears to me that either the Lord was wrong, or Art can't tell the
Lord's voice from the voices his paranoia gives rise to.
- Scott
Jong Kim
news:3F68B472...@dangerous1.com...
A chat on the afternoon of Sep. 16 (yesterday):
Art Bulla says:
they want to shield the negroes, homosexuals, etc from insults.
Art Bulla says:
but the prophets of Jacob they can pillory.
Jong says:
not that a.r.m. will be moderated but this prank served as a catalyst (in
light of what happened to Roy Moore's cause, the recall vote being stalled)
for Art Bulla to get a revelation that a terrible fate is awaiting the
inhabitants of the United States, is the real message here.
Jong says:
catalyst or impetus come to mind as words to describe it.
Jong says:
and then close it with RJC 72 in its entirety this time, as an evidence of
Art Bulla's prophetic powers given of God.
Art Bulla says:
yes.
Jong says:
therefore judge not, lest ye be judged, etc.
Art Bulla says:
if the demon-rats will take away all freedom.
Art Bulla says:
the liberals will curtail all speech not PC>
Art Bulla says:
just as M. Savage also spoke.
Art Bulla says:
in his book, I should have bought.
Jong says:
this is already the case in the official halls of government as well as
business, esp. corporation.
Jong says:
but the prophecy is that this oppressive power will be widened.
Art Bulla says:
arm is a minor skirmish in the over-all battle of the devil to rob mankind
of their freedom.
That evening, the Spirit of the Lord fell upon me, directing me to use the
word "impetus", for this accurately describes the situation concerning the
prophecy given through Art Bulla. The Lord gave me this "impetus" revelation
so that I might aid in defending his kingdom. Without the grace of God, I
cannot do any such thing.
"So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain what they consider
a temporary victory in shutting me up, for the COURTS are CORRUPT and the
WICKED are JUSTIFIED by these ATHEIST JUDGES and are thus fearless."
Amazing, in light of corrupt Federal judges unconstitutionally fighting
against Roy Moore in order to keep influencing public institutions to deny
the existence of God and against the recall election in California, hoping
to delay the gubernatorial election until the California Democratic primary
next year to get more Democrat-siding voters to show up for the recall
election, wherein the unjust ruling by these three judges was made just
hours after Art had written the above and also the following in the same
post:
"This black Pharonic power is threatening to take away your liberty for if
these once again who are inspired of the devil, saith the Lord, are allowed
to reign, your speech and your liberty guaranteed by Ephraim, the founding
fathers, who are Ephraim, saith the Lord, Thomas Jefferson, Washington,
Franklin, et al, who manifested the racial characteristic of Ephraim in
fighting for the liberty of all mankind, will be lost, saith the Lord."
I might also add that the Holy Ghost had witnessed to me of the truth of the
corrupt judges part of Art's post, this spiritual evidence had been granted
me at 7:10 pm Pacific, Sep. 16, 2003.
SECTION 72.
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http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
Tune into http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=artbulla
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Jong Kim
Scott Marquardt
Dude.
You guys are amazing.
You really, really ought to be in theater.
Jong Kim wrote:
>"Goner" <Go...@dangerous1.com> wrote in message
>> How, exactly did you explain this latest lie to Jong?
>A chat on the afternoon of Sep. 16 (yesterday):
>Art Bulla says:
>they want to shield the negroes, homosexuals, etc from insults.
>Art Bulla says:
>but the prophets of Jacob they can pillory.
>Jong says:
>not that a.r.m. will be moderated but this prank served as a catalyst (in
>light of what happened to Roy Moore's cause, the recall vote being stalled)
>for Art Bulla to get a revelation that a terrible fate is awaiting the
>inhabitants of the United States, is the real message here.
LOL
Dude. (a) Why should this prank serve as a catalyst? "In light of" Roy
Moore, for crying out loud.
A judge gets his cause sat on, and all of a sudden a prank on ARM is a
catalyst for a revelation about the California recall mess? You guys are
wacko beyond belief. Your minds sieze on stuff at random, and you actually
post the random crap as if it cohered.
(b) you still haven't explained, if all it was was a "catalyst," why Art
claimed that "the Lord says this imposed moderation is an attempt to shut
up the truth, and shut me up as I brandish it like a sword." Either the
Lord was wrong, or Art was hearing things. Which was it?
>Jong says:
>catalyst or impetus come to mind as words to describe it.
Right, right -- those creative faculties had to cast about a bit in view of
Art's gaffe.
>Jong says:
>and then close it with RJC 72 in its entirety this time, as an evidence of
>Art Bulla's prophetic powers given of God.
>Art Bulla says:
>yes.
>Jong says:
>therefore judge not, lest ye be judged, etc.
>Art Bulla says:
>if the demon-rats will take away all freedom.
>Art Bulla says:
>the liberals will curtail all speech not PC>
>Art Bulla says:
>just as M. Savage also spoke.
>Art Bulla says:
>in his book, I should have bought.
>Jong says:
>this is already the case in the official halls of government as well as
>business, esp. corporation.
>Jong says:
>but the prophecy is that this oppressive power will be widened.
>Art Bulla says:
>arm is a minor skirmish in the over-all battle of the devil to rob mankind
>of their freedom.
Good grief.
Thanks for the fireside chat.
- Scott
Art Bulla
liar. This has been the pattern, and Scott is no exception, wanting to "lock
me up" for being a "psycho" all because I believe in God! And have the faith
necessary to pull down revelation from God! It is ok with these fools (who
should be put to death) to pray to God (in your houses), but wo unto you if
you profess these things in public and especially wo unto you if you claim
that you get an answer from that God to whom you pray, they will crucify
you, stone you, and try to destroy you according to the following pattern,
saith the Lord:
25 And now when ye talk, ye say: If our days had been in the days of our
fathers of old, we would not have slain the prophets; we would not have
stoned them, and cast them out.
26 Behold ye are worse than they; for as the Lord liveth, if a prophet come
among you and declareth unto you the word of the Lord, which testifieth of
your sins and iniquities, ye are angry with him, and cast him out and seek
all manner of ways to destroy him; yea, you will say that he is a false
prophet, and that he is a sinner, and of the devil, because he testifieth
that your deeds are evil.
27 But behold, if a man shall come among you and shall say: Do this, and
there is no iniquity; do that and ye shall not suffer; yea, he will say:
Walk after the pride of your own hearts; yea, walk after the pride of your
eyes, and do whatsoever your heart desireth-and if a man shall come among
you and say this, ye will receive him, and say that he is a prophet.
28 Yea, ye will lift him up, and ye will give unto him of your substance; ye
will give unto him of your gold, and of your silver, and ye will clothe him
with costly apparel; and because he speaketh flattering words unto you, and
he saith that all is well, then ye will not find fault with him.
29 O ye wicked and ye perverse generation; ye hardened and ye stiffnecked
people, how long will ye suppose that the Lord will suffer you? Yea, how
long will ye suffer yourselves to be led by foolish and blind guides? Yea,
how long will ye choose darkness rather than light?
30 Yea, behold, the anger of the Lord is already kindled against you;
behold, he hath cursed the land because of your iniquity.
(Book of Mormon | Helaman 13:25 - 30)
"Scott Marquardt" <do...@doot.com> wrote in message
news:8krhmv84s671k99qt...@4ax.com...
> Art Bulla wrote:
>
> >You are a fool as well, for you understand not what Jong relies upon for
> >knowledge as to who is whom:
>
> That first post didn't quite get it all out of your system then, I guess?
>
> >And you, having denied the Holy Ghost, are left to your foolish mocking,
> >hardly being objective, having an axe to grind (for you are queer)
>
> How do you know, Art? Heck, am I one of these queers that doesn't even
know
> it myself, yet, after 43 years and four kids? I've heard tales of men who
> come out of the closet late in life, but generally they've lived with a
lot
> of internal conflict all that time.
>
> When do you reckon I'll come out, Art?
You lying bastard. You have a lying spirit. You know that you have
conspired and acted to shut me up becuase of your extreme views. You
demonstrate the narcissism and fastidious attention to form instead of
substance characteristic of queers according to the following pattern, saith
the Lord (btw, there are many queers who live a lie, having four children,
etc). I stand by my judgment. You and those like you are worthy of death
as Paul states as well:
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to
corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their
own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the
creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their
women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned
in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is
unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which
was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave
them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,
covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit,
malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil
things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection,
implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are
worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do
them.
(New Testament | Romans 1:22 - 32)
>
> >but waiting and watching for any pimple or boil (again, for
> >you are a queer)
>
> Queers watch for pimples and boils? Art, this is surfacing some pretty
> weird obsessive stuff. In all seriousness, get help.
>
> >and thus must perish, for you draw the wrong conclusion.
> >You have a beam in your eye which clouds your understanding and try to
> >remove a mote from mine, you fool!
>
> Art, did the Lord tell you "this imposed moderation is an attempt to shut
> up the truth, and shut [Art] up as [he brandishes] it like a sword," or
did
> the Lord not tell you that?
There are those on arm who have complained because of my speaking against
god damned niggers and queers like yourself, you fool. I revel in freedom
of speech and I love to dance on your head, you gentile fastidious jerk.
>
> Simple question, Art. No argument, no conclusion, no beam, no mote. Just a
> chance for you to come clean.
>
> Did the Lord tell you that "this imposed moderation is an attempt to shut
> up the truth?"
I was told that arm was to start moderation by Aaron, not even reading the
post which you claim is a lie. Are all posters on arm liars or is it just
you? The revelation is general, pointing out the war, which, saith the
Lord, will eventually shiver the US in pieces in civil war and which will
destroy the nation, the Book of Mormon, which you mock as well, being a
pattern of two nations destroyed on this continent in like manner. I stated
arm was a "minor skirmish" as you know. Do you deny that you and others are
conspiring against me? If you do, you lie. I know your kind and hate you
with much more fury than you hate godliness and if up to me you would be put
to the sword, but alas it is not up to me as yet:
21 Therefore, verily, thus saith the Lord, let Zion rejoice, for this is
Zion-THE PURE IN HEART; therefore, let Zion rejoice, while all the wicked
shall mourn.
22 For behold, and lo, vengeance cometh speedily upon the ungodly as the
whirlwind; and who shall escape it?
23 The Lord's scourge shall pass over by night and by day, and the report
thereof shall vex all people; yea, it shall not be stayed until the Lord
come;
24 For the indignation of the Lord is kindled against their abominations and
all their wicked works.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 97:21 - 24)
Cause of severe weather, saith the Lord:
21 For if I, who am a man, do lift up my voice and call upon you to repent,
and ye hate me, what will ye say when the day cometh when the thunders shall
utter their voices from the ends of the earth, speaking to the ears of all
that live, saying-Repent, and prepare for the great day of the Lord?
22 Yea, and again, when the lightnings shall streak forth from the east unto
the west, and shall utter forth their voices unto all that live, and make
the ears of all tingle that hear, saying these words-Repent ye, for the
great day of the Lord is come?
23 And again, the Lord shall utter his voice out of heaven, saying: Hearken,
O ye nations of the earth, and hear the words of that God who made you.
24 O, ye nations of the earth, how often would I have gathered you together
as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, but ye would not!
25 How oft have I called upon you by the mouth of my servants, and by the
ministering of angels, and by mine own voice, and by the voice of
thunderings, and by the voice of lightnings, and by the voice of tempests,
and by the voice of earthquakes, and great hailstorms, and by the voice of
famines and pestilences of every kind, and by the great sound of a trump,
and by the voice of judgment, and by the voice of mercy all the day long,
and by the voice of glory and honor and the riches of eternal life, and
would have saved you with an everlasting salvation, but ye would not!
26 Behold, the day has come, when the cup of the wrath of mine indignation
is full.
27 Behold, verily I say unto you, that these are the words of the Lord your
God.
28 Wherefore, labor ye, labor ye in my vineyard for the last time-for the
last time call upon the inhabitants of the earth.
29 For in mine own due time will I come upon the earth in judgment, and my
people shall be redeemed and shall reign with me on earth.
30 For the great Millennium, of which I have spoken by the mouth of my
servants, shall come.
31 For Satan shall be bound, and when he is loosed again he shall only reign
for a little season, and then cometh the end of the earth.
32 And he that liveth in righteousness shall be changed in the twinkling of
an eye, and the earth shall pass away so as by fire.
33 And the wicked shall go away into unquenchable fire, and their end no man
knoweth on earth, nor ever shall know, until they come before me in
judgment.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 43:21 - 33)
3 And say, Hear ye the word of the LORD, O kings of Judah, and inhabitants
of Jerusalem; Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I
will bring evil upon this place, the which whosoever heareth, his ears shall
tingle.
4 Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have
burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers
have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the
blood of innocents;
5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire
for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither
came it into my mind:
6 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that this place shall no
more be called Tophet, nor The valley of the son of Hinnom, but The valley
of slaughter.
7 And I will make void the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem in this place; and
I will cause them to fall by the sword before their enemies, and by the
hands of them that seek their lives: and their carcases will I give to be
meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.
8 And I will make this city desolate, and an hissing; every one that passeth
thereby shall be astonished and hiss because of all the plagues thereof.
9 And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of
their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the
siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their
lives, shall straiten them.
10 Then shalt thou break the bottle in the sight of the men that go with
thee,
11 And shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Even so will I
break this people and this city, as one breaketh a potter's vessel, that
cannot be made whole again: and they shall bury them in Tophet, till there
be no place to bury.
(Old Testament | Jeremiah 19:3 - 11)
>
> - Scott
Goner
Art Bulla wrote:
> You deny that you have conspired against me, to silence me on arm? You
> liar. This has been the pattern, and Scott is no exception, wanting to "lock
> me up" for being a "psycho" all because I believe in God! And have the faith
> necessary to pull down revelation from God! It is ok with these fools (who
> should be put to death) to pray to God (in your houses), but wo unto you if
> you profess these things in public and especially wo unto you if you claim
> that you get an answer from that God to whom you pray, they will crucify
> you, stone you, and try to destroy you according to the following pattern,
> saith the Lord:
wow. Get a grip, Art.
(snip boring stuff)
> You lying bastard. You have a lying spirit. You know that you have
> conspired and acted to shut me up becuase of your extreme views. You
> demonstrate the narcissism and fastidious attention to form instead of
> substance characteristic of queers according to the following pattern, saith
> the Lord (btw, there are many queers who live a lie, having four children,
> etc). I stand by my judgment. You and those like you are worthy of death
> as Paul states as well:
>
LOL.
(snip more boring stuff)
> There are those on arm who have complained because of my speaking against
> god damned niggers and queers like yourself, you fool. I revel in freedom
> of speech and I love to dance on your head, you gentile fastidious jerk.
> >
> > Simple question, Art. No argument, no conclusion, no beam, no mote. Just a
> > chance for you to come clean.
> >
> > Did the Lord tell you that "this imposed moderation is an attempt to shut
> > up the truth?"
>
> I was told that arm was to start moderation by Aaron, not even reading the
> post which you claim is a lie. Are all posters on arm liars or is it just
> you?
Sounds like it was Aaron.
LOL. He's such a sucker. He'll believe anything, obviously. But then, you
believed it when you heard it from Aaron. Even "the lord" believed it. LOL.
Dangerous1
Art Bulla
Scott Marquardt
>You deny that you have conspired against me, to silence me on arm?
Art, how could I silence you? Please tell me what I've done to prevent you
from posting your rants.
>You liar. This has been the pattern, and Scott is no exception, wanting to "lock
>me up" for being a "psycho" all because I believe in God!
Art, I believe in God. So that can't be the reason. I live and work and
relate with many people who believe in God.
Art, you don't need to be "locked up," you just need to get with a
therapist and get some help. You're an intelligent fellow, but you're not
wise enough to see that you're delusional in the extreme.
By all means keep posting to ARM, but join some discussions as a peer to
other people here, instead of playing the idiot and condemning everyone.
And while you're at it, get that help.
>And have the faith
>necessary to pull down revelation from God! It is ok with these fools (who
>should be put to death)
Art, do you hear yourself? That kind of thing *will* convince people you
need to be locked up.
>to pray to God (in your houses), but wo unto you if
>you profess these things in public
Art, I happen to agree fully with that particular concern of yours. I think
you're naive about some constitutional issues -- that's probably
criticizing you too mildly on this score -- but it's true that the public
square is far too naked. http://snurl.com/2e5j
>and especially wo unto you if you claim
>that you get an answer from that God to whom you pray, they will crucify
>you, stone you, and try to destroy you according to the following pattern,
>saith the Lord:
Art, you go far further than claiming that God answers your prayers. You
pretty much identify anything that you say with the voice of God. I'm
exaggerating -- but not much!
- Scott
Scott Marquardt
>Scott said:
>>Art wrote:
>> >And you, having denied the Holy Ghost, are left to your foolish mocking,
>> >hardly being objective, having an axe to grind (for you are queer)
>>
>> How do you know, Art? Heck, am I one of these queers that doesn't even know
>> it myself, yet, after 43 years and four kids? I've heard tales of men who
>> come out of the closet late in life, but generally they've lived with a lot
>> of internal conflict all that time.
>>
>> When do you reckon I'll come out, Art?
>
>You lying bastard. You have a lying spirit. You know that you have
>conspired and acted to shut me up becuase of your extreme views.
No, Art, *you* "know" that. It's a pretty compelling delusion.
Art, how have I conspired to shut you up? How can I stop you from posting
to usenet? Have I cancelled any of your posts? Has anyone? It's obvious
that no one is now.
Art, if I was "conspiring" to shut you up, don't you think you'd be getting
harrassed with cancelations and the like? Come to think of it, ironically,
it's been observed that some of my posts in response to you have been
cancelled. It seems more as if that's a desperate measure you've resorted
to (I could be wrong, of course), than anything I've "conspired" to do.
>You
>demonstrate the narcissism and fastidious attention to form instead of
>substance
Me? Moi? Fastidious attention to form, and you are Mr. Substance?
Art, almost every locutions of yours bears the affect of someone who thinks
King James English is some kind of sanctified language. You slip into
formal affectation anytime you get riled. You don't even have control over
it; your grammar is laced with evidence that you're obsessed with literary
form, regardless of the substance.
>characteristic of queers according to the following pattern, saith
>the Lord (btw, there are many queers who live a lie, having four children,
>etc). I stand by my judgment. You and those like you are worthy of death
>as Paul states as well:
So if Zion was here and you were in charge, would you see to it that
everyone got what they were worthy of, Art?
Will you give me an honest answer to that?
- Scott
Scott Marquardt
>Scott said:
>>Art wrote:
>> >and thus must perish, for you draw the wrong conclusion.
>> >You have a beam in your eye which clouds your understanding and try to
>> >remove a mote from mine, you fool!
>>
>> Art, did the Lord tell you "this imposed moderation is an attempt to shut
>> up the truth, and shut [Art] up as [he brandishes] it like a sword," or did
>> the Lord not tell you that?
>
>There are those on arm who have complained because of my speaking against
>god damned niggers and queers like yourself, you fool. I revel in freedom
>of speech and I love to dance on your head, you gentile fastidious jerk.
Art, you're ranting again.
First, I'm not queer. I happen to believe that gay sex is immoral, though I
see no reason to believe that a homosexual inclination is any more sinful
than my own occasional temptation to hop on top of some pretty young thang
half my age. ;-)
We need to act virtuously. No one ever said we would always have virtuous
motivations.
It's about self control.
Speaking of which...
What's with the unwarranted judgment, the racism, and everything else in
that paragraph that's pretty rotten to the core, Art? WWJD? (no, that
doesn't mean "what would joseph do" ;-)
>> Simple question, Art. No argument, no conclusion, no beam, no mote. Just a
>> chance for you to come clean.
>>
>> Did the Lord tell you that "this imposed moderation is an attempt to shut
>> up the truth?"
>
>I was told that arm was to start moderation by Aaron, not even reading the
>post which you claim is a lie. Are all posters on arm liars or is it just
>you?
Art, it was a joke. People are always posting silly stuff in alt groups. It
wasn't even a "prank," as you and Jong have characterized it. A prank is an
attempt to fool someone. The poster doubtless gave more credit for
intelligence to readers here than that, since alt groups like ARM can't be
moderated. Unfortunately, even though he included a clear statement that it
was a joke in the post itself, he didn't count on the inspired discernment
that you and Jong bring to bear on such posts. Yes, that's sarcasm.
>The revelation is general, pointing out the war, which, saith the
>Lord, will eventually shiver the US in pieces in civil war and which will
>destroy the nation, the Book of Mormon, which you mock as well, being a
>pattern of two nations destroyed on this continent in like manner. I stated
>arm was a "minor skirmish" as you know. Do you deny that you and others are
>conspiring against me? If you do, you lie. I know your kind and hate you
>with much more fury than you hate godliness and if up to me you would be put
>to the sword, but alas it is not up to me as yet:
Geez, Art. Don't pop an artery in that febrile, frenetic brain of yours...
- Scott
Art Bulla
4 The Lord GOD hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know
how to speak a word in season to him that is weary: he wakeneth morning by
morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned.
5 The Lord GOD hath opened mine ear, and I was not rebellious, neither
turned away back.
6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the
hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
7 For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded:
therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be
ashamed.
8 He is near that justifieth me; who will contend with me? let us stand
together: who is mine adversary? let him come near to me.
9 Behold, the Lord GOD will help me; who is he that shall condemn me? lo,
they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up.
10 Who is among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice of his
servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the
name of the LORD, and stay upon his God.
11 Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with
sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have
kindled. This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 50:4 - 11)
"Art Bulla" <a...@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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> I prophesy that nothing but PC speech will be allowed on arm as a result
> of the wicked who are cut to the heart complaining incessantly, and the
> weak-kneed cave in and compromise as they have always done when confronted
> by persecution. PC (politically correct speech) which is nothing more than
> the fascism of the devil and the godless left is taking over the church,
> i.c. feminists, leftist negros, homosexuals, atheists, murderers,
sorcerers,
> adulterers, liars, etc. The Lord says that these who have complained are
the
> vilest of men and are are those devoid of truth who have nothing in their
> arsenal but slander and persecution, since they are not furnished with the
> word of God, but slander, name-calling and persecution in the form of PC
> censorship. The truth they consider defamatory because it is an arrow to
> their corrupt hearts, and they fear and tremble because of it. No vampire
> in horror films could frear a crucifix more than the so-called "liberals"
> who are the most intolerant of mankind, saith the Lord. The Lord says
this
> imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as I
> brandish it like a sword. But Parley P. Pratt said "You may as well shut
up
> a fire in a pile of wood chips than shut up a man who has the testimony of
> Jesus (the spirit of prophecy). When Joseph was Prime Minister of
Pharoah,
> the Hyskos (who invented the chariot, and other high tech for that time)
who
> were white, descendants of Shem, and cousins of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob,
> (semitic means Shemitic, descendants of Shem or Melchizedec). But at the
> time of Moses the Hyskos of Egypt were replaced by a black Pharoah who
> enslaved the Hebrews (Eber, the son of Shem, Ebrews, means descendants of
> Eber). This black Pharonic power is threatening to take away your liberty
> for if these once again who are inspired of the devil, saith the Lord, are
> allowed to reign, your speech and your liberty guaranteed by Ephraim, the
> founding fathers, who are Ephraim, saith the Lord, Thomas Jefferson,
> Washington, Franklin, et al, who manifested the racial characteristic of
> Ephraim in fighting for the liberty of all mankind, will be lost, saith
the
> Lord. So sit still and do nothing and the devil will put you in a worse
> slavery than black Pharoah did to Israel for 400 years, turning nature on
> its head. For nature and nature's God decreed that Israel shall rule and
> that Cainan (son of Ham) shall be his servant (see Genesis 9). But you
are
> only ripening for destruction when the fullness of the wrath of the
Almighty
> falls upon your heads, and you cannot escape his wrath, for the devil whom
> you serve, ye politically correct, cannot resurrect anyone. So the meek
> shall inherit the earth for all things which are of man shall be shaken
and
> thrown down. So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain
what
> are your holy apostles inspired from heaven to speak the word of the Lord
in
> the ears of fallen man? Where are your prophets to lift up their voices
by
Art Bulla
> Art Bulla wrote:
> >Scott said:
> >>Art wrote:
>
>
> What's with the unwarranted judgment, the racism, and everything else in
> that paragraph that's pretty rotten to the core, Art? WWJD? (no, that
> doesn't mean "what would joseph do" ;-)
The Revelations of Jesus Christ
Section 2.
169 And it is that a skin of blackness was placed upon the seed of Ham,
which thing hath always followed them who be apostates from the Holy
Priesthood after the Order of the Son of God*.
170 And this mark hath been upon them in all ages of the world, saith the
Lord, that my people who are of the House of Israel should not desire them
to mix their seed with them, that they and their children should be a pure
and holy people unto me, forever undefiled, For I the Lord God am the author
of the races, and who is it, saith the Lord, that stretchest forth his puny
arm, to alter the decrees of the Most High which were made from before the
foundation of the world?
171 For it was that the spirits of men were segregated according to
valiance and also intelligence in races and grades, and that teaching that
all men are the same is an abomination in my sight, saith the Lord, for ye,
even ye, O man, who dare raise thy head in ignorance of my power in these
things, yea, even my sovereignty over the nations shall be ground into
powder when it is that more than twelve legions of my little ones shall reap
down thy earth, O man and O woman, whose hearts bleed for Cain, the first
murderer.
172 Yea for ye shall be consumed at that day which shall burn as an oven.
173 For as in the days of Noah, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be.
174 For it is that my decrees shall not be abro
gated nor done away with by the weak and ignoble and ignorant of the
children of men, who have no voice, saith the Lord.
175 And my word which I have spoken in this day by my servant shall not
return unto me void, saith the Lord of the races of men.
176 And now concerning them who call themselves saints of the Most High,
did I not speak unto my servant that cursed is he that relieth upon the arm
of flesh or he that maketh flesh his arm?
177 How is it O Israel, that ye cannot hear when I the Lord your God speak
unto thee out of the heavens?
178 Did not my servant Joseph and also Brigham, speak unto them who
comprised my Saints,saith the Lord that they depended on the prophet, and
did not seek unto me for themselves1, hence their minds were darkened, and
this because of the neglect of the things which were delegated unto them?
179 For it, saith the Lord, is appointed unto every tub, that it shall
stand upon its own bottom, saith the Lord.
180 Yea, know ye not that mine annointed is but a man, and that even Moses
required that his arms be supported in the weight therof?
181 And did not my servant Moses exclaim, Would to God that all of Israel
were prophets?
Scott Marquardt
Fool Speck
Your words are much weaker and much less coherent than before. Even
Jong sees you are spiraling down.
Swallow your pride and get some help, buddy, before the python of your
delusions swallows you completely.
Steve Lowther
Jong Kim
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I'm doing well, being on the side of Art Bulla the servant of God. I urge
you to do the same (after obtaining a sure testimony of the Holy Ghost). For
the Spirit bears record that he is the One Mighty and Strong sent to deliver
Ephraim from their bondage (Isaiah 28, DC 85). I am not a brain washed fool
that you think I am. I know what I'm doing now, but it's true that I used to
be a deluded fool before receiving the knowledge of God, initiated by an
"accidental" discovery of the Book of Mormon in Jan. 1999, in a used
bookstore. That's why no one's been able to refute our postings, for the
Spirit inspires us, but the wicked mockers here keep snipping most of what
we've written in their replies, and taking things out of context, and
resorting to hurling insults. They can do no more, for the truth is not with
them. False prophets never teach that the Spirit of God accompanies their
works.
If the book of Isaiah is to be quickly summed up, it's a "book of Messianic
prophecies". For there are two Messiahs, one to Judah and one to Ephraim.
Also, two prophecies of Joseph Smith found in Isaiah 11 and 29. These three
are the three Davidic servants of God.
1 Now the sons of Reuben the firstborn of Israel, (for he [was] the
firstborn; but, forasmuch as he defiled his father's bed, his birthright was
given unto the sons of Joseph the son of Israel: and the genealogy is not to
be reckoned after the birthright.
2 For Judah prevailed above his brethren, and of him [came] the chief ruler;
but the birthright [was] Joseph's:)
(Old Testament | 1 Chronicles 5:1 - 2)
18 ś And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes
of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
19 The meek also shall increase [their] joy in the LORD, and the poor among
men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.
20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed,
and all that WATCH for INIQUITY are cut off:
21 That make a man an OFFENDER for a WORD, and lay a SNARE for him that
reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.
22 Therefore thus saith the LORD, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house
of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax
pale.
23 But when he seeth his children, the work of mine hands, in the midst of
him, they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and
shall fear the God of Israel.
24 They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that
murmured shall learn doctrine.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 29:18 - 24)
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>For
>the Spirit bears record that he is the One Mighty and Strong sent to deliver
>Ephraim from their bondage
When anyone can teach me to levitate, or to move objects
with my mind, then and only then, will I consider listening
to the message they might have to tell me about being
Mighty and Strong.
Jong Kim
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>
> >For
> >the Spirit bears record that he is the One Mighty and Strong sent to
deliver
> >Ephraim from their bondage
>
> When anyone can teach me to levitate, or to move objects
> with my mind, then and only then, will I consider listening
> to the message they might have to tell me about being
> Mighty and Strong.
>
> Love,
> Absalom
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona:
for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is
in heaven.
(New Testament | Matthew 16:17)
7 And he that seeketh signs shall see signs, but not unto salvation.
8 Verily, I say unto you, there are those among you who seek signs, and
there have been such even from the beginning;
9 But, behold, faith cometh not by signs, but signs follow those that
believe.
10 Yea, signs come by faith, not by the will of men, nor as they please, but
by the will of God.
11 Yea, signs come by faith, unto mighty works, for without faith no man
pleaseth God; and with whom God is angry he is not well pleased; wherefore,
unto such he showeth no signs, only in wrath unto their condemnation.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 63:7 - 11)
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Goner
<aNTab.146141$0v4.10...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Jong
Kim <jo...@artbulla.com> wrote:
> "father of peace" <abs...@pipeline.com> wrote in message
> news:3f6befa2....@news.west.earthlink.net...
> >
> > >For
> > >the Spirit bears record that he is the One Mighty and Strong sent to
> deliver
> > >Ephraim from their bondage
> >
> > When anyone can teach me to levitate, or to move objects
> > with my mind, then and only then, will I consider listening
> > to the message they might have to tell me about being
> > Mighty and Strong.
> >
> > Love,
> > Absalom
>
> 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona:
> for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is
> in heaven.
> (New Testament | Matthew 16:17)
>
> 7 And he that seeketh signs shall see signs, but not unto salvation.
Remember when Art said that the middle of the day turned dark as night
as a sign of his "crucifixion" at the hands of the Salt Lake legal
system?
That was pretty funny, wasn't it?
--
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Don Marchant
dangerous1.com
think global, act loco
Jong Kim
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You lied again. That day in 1979 when he was unrighteously excommunicated by
his brethren the Mormon Church (for not apologizing to Randy Olson as
commanded of him by his stake council of High Priests, though it was Randy,
Art's home teacher, that should have apologized to Art for jumping on top of
him and beating on his face, whose only "offense" was to read at the Lord's
command, the first 2 written revelations he had ever received, despite
Olson's protest that Art stop reading), there was a sign given in the sky of
Salt Lake City around the brighter part of the day. I don't remember what
Art wrote me exactly but he definitely did not say that the entire sky
turned dark as night.
8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the OUTCASTS of Israel saith, Yet will I
gather [others] to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 56:8)
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the
OUTCASTS of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four
corners of the earth.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 11:12)
2 The LORD doth build up Jerusalem: he gathereth together the OUTCASTS of
Israel.
3 He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds.
(Old Testament | Psalms 147:2 - 3)
10 He delighteth not in the strength of the horse: he taketh not pleasure in
the legs of a man.
11 The LORD taketh pleasure in them that fear him, in those that hope in his
mercy.
12 Praise the LORD, O Jerusalem; praise thy God, O Zion.
(Old Testament | Psalms 147:10 - 12)
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>
father of peace
>> When anyone can teach me to levitate, or to move objects
>> with my mind, then and only then, will I consider listening
>> to the message they might have to tell me about being
>> Mighty and Strong.
>7 And he that seeketh signs shall see signs, but not unto salvation.
I've never seen levitation, whether unto salvation or not.
If I do some day, then I might pay attention. Until then I've
been involved in way too many gatherings, and heard the
sermons of way too many "One Mighty and Strongs" to
care to be involved in that any more... until someone shows
up that is actually making progress on purifying and
cleansing the church.
There's a lot of prophets willing to prophecy. Few if
any that actually demonstrate any power from God.
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Selling religion? Preaching to get gain? How sad.
Jong Kim
>
> >> When anyone can teach me to levitate, or to move objects
> >> with my mind, then and only then, will I consider listening
> >> to the message they might have to tell me about being
> >> Mighty and Strong.
>
>
> >7 And he that seeketh signs shall see signs, but not unto salvation.
>
> I've never seen levitation, whether unto salvation or not.
> If I do some day, then I might pay attention. Until then I've
> been involved in way too many gatherings, and heard the
> sermons of way too many "One Mighty and Strongs" to
> care to be involved in that any more... until someone shows
> up that is actually making progress on purifying and
> cleansing the church.
Don't forget, those false messengers you dealt with never taught that the
Spirit of God accompanies their works.
68 And I hereby set my seal, saith the Lord, upon this work and unto
whomsoever it may come, that it verily is through and of me, saith the Lord,
and doth teach men the right path which leadeth unto the eternal lives and a
SPIRIT of peace will ACCOMPANY THIS WORK to testify that I have spoken it,
saith the Lord God of the Lives.
69 And is the only true gospel which is authorized by the heavens and
recognized thereby.
70 Even so, be diligent and receive whomsoever I send, saith the Lord, and
if ye receive whomsoever I send, ye shall receive me, even Jesus of
Nazereth, whom the world in its pride and wisdom, and its multitude of
creeds and beliefs which are the very chains and fetters of hell, hath not
known.
71 Even so, until I come.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 1:68-71 (received on Dec. 24, 1980)
69 And the bad shall be cast away, yea, even out of all the land of my
vineyard; for behold, only this once will I prune my vineyard.
70 And it came to pass that the Lord of the vineyard sent HIS SERVANT; and
the servant went and did as the Lord had commanded him, and brought other
servants; and they were FEW.
71 And the Lord of the vineyard said unto them: Go to, and labor in the
vineyard, with your might. For behold, this is the LAST TIME that I shall
nourish my vineyard; for the end is nigh at hand, and the season speedily
cometh; and if ye labor with your might with me ye shall have joy in the
fruit which I shall lay up unto myself against the time which will soon
come.
(Book of Mormon | Jacob 5:69 - 71)
24 Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 28:24)
1 Woe to them [that are] at ease in Zion, and trust in the mountain of
Samaria, [which are] named chief of the nations, to whom the house of Israel
came!
(Old Testament | Amos 6:1)
These continuing trials of your faith are meant to make you stronger, but
the temptation is to "BITE" and be WEARIED and DARKENED in mind. Hence this
is the great TEST in these the days of our PROBATION in the flesh, to see if
we will CONTINUE in the LOVE of the truth. There also were false messengers
in the days of Jesus of Nazareth, each one of them proclaiming to be the
Christ.
7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the
door of the sheep.
8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did
not hear them.
(New Testament | John 10:7 - 8)
Each generation that has the opportunity to receive the Gospel is to be
tested to the LIMIT, for the Lord knoweth them. And now the Spirit bids me
to quote to you, out of the book of Luke:
25 ¶ And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto
them,
26 If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife,
and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he
cannot be my disciple.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my
disciple.
28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and
counteth the cost, whether he have [sufficient] to finish [it?]
29 Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish
[it,] all that behold [it] begin to mock him,
30 Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish.
(New Testament | Luke 14:25 - 30)
13 ¶ Sing, O heavens; and be joyful, O earth; and break forth into singing,
O mountains: for the LORD hath comforted his people, and will have mercy
upon his afflicted.
14 But Zion said, The LORD hath forsaken me, and my Lord hath forgotten me.
15 Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion
on the son of her womb? yea, they may forget, YET WILL I NOT FORGET THEE.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 49:13 - 15)
>
> There's a lot of prophets willing to prophecy. Few if
> any that actually demonstrate any power from God.
13 ¶ Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is]
the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto
life, and few there be that find it.
15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but
inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or
figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree
bringeth forth evil fruit.
(New Testament | Matthew 7:13 - 17)
In May 2000, Art Bulla laid his hands on my head, at my request, and by the
power of God healed me of a severe affliction of eyes and nose. But more
impressive is the great truth that proceeds from his mouth and pen, and the
accompanying manifestations of the Holy Spirit, for love of the truth and
doing accordingly is what will save a man.
28 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the pointers which were in the
ball, that they did work according to the FAITH and DILIGENCE and HEED which
we did give unto them.
(Book of Mormon | 1 Nephi 16:28)
28 Behold, I will show unto the Gentiles their weakness, and I will show
unto them that faith, HOPE and charity bringeth unto me—the fountain of all
righteousness.
29 And I, Moroni, having heard these words, was comforted, and said: O Lord,
thy righteous will be done, for I know that thou WORKEST unto the children
of men ACCORDING to their FAITH;
30 For the brother of Jared said unto the mountain Zerin, Remove—and it was
removed. And if he had not had faith it would not have moved; wherefore thou
workest AFTER men have faith.
31 For thus didst thou manifest thyself unto thy disciples; for AFTER they
had faith, and did speak in thy name, thou didst show thyself unto them in
great power.
32 And I also remember that thou hast said that thou hast prepared a house
for man, yea, even among the mansions of thy Father, in which man might have
a more excellent hope; wherefore MAN MUST HOPE, or he cannot receive an
inheritance in the place which thou hast prepared.
(Book of Mormon | Ether 12:28 - 32)
It is not by any outward manifestation of miraculous signs that a man is
converted to the truth (the devil can do it to some extent also), but by the
power of the Holy Ghost, and retaining this testimony to the end through
obedience to the Priesthood. For only by obedience to his Maker will a man
retain the Spirit of revelation and thereby endure to the end. Most of the
ancient Israelites that witnessed the splitting of the Red Sea turned
apostate. Peter knew for himself that Jesus is the Christ, not by the
miracles he had performed, but by the power of the Spirit. The signs, etc.
will be given according to the Lord's will after the trial of one's faith
(i.e., a state of knowing and understanding without possessing a perfect
knowledge of all things). I say these things, not just because these things
have been said previously many times, but because I have experienced these
things for myself.
>
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7 And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they
give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
(New Testament | Luke 10:7)
79 Behold, I send you out to prove the world, and the laborer is worthy of
his hire.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 84:79)
7 ¶ How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good
tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that
publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
8 Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they
sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion.
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"Jong Kim" <jo...@artbulla.com> wrote:
> "father of peace" <abs...@pipeline.com> wrote in message
> news:3f6befa2....@news.west.earthlink.net...
> >
> > >For
> > >the Spirit bears record that he is the One Mighty and Strong sent to
> deliver
> > >Ephraim from their bondage
> >
> > When anyone can teach me to levitate, or to move objects
> > with my mind, then and only then, will I consider listening
> > to the message they might have to tell me about being
> > Mighty and Strong.
> >
> > Love,
> > Absalom
>
> 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona:
> for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is
> in heaven.
> (New Testament | Matthew 16:17)
>
> 7 And he that seeketh signs shall see signs, but not unto salvation.
>
> 8 Verily, I say unto you, there are those among you who seek signs, and
> there have been such even from the beginning;
>
> 9 But, behold, faith cometh not by signs, but signs follow those that
> believe.
>...
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Scott Marquardt
>"father of peace" wrote:
>> I've never seen levitation, whether unto salvation or not.
>> If I do some day, then I might pay attention. Until then I've
>> been involved in way too many gatherings, and heard the
>> sermons of way too many "One Mighty and Strongs" to
>> care to be involved in that any more... until someone shows
>> up that is actually making progress on purifying and
>> cleansing the church.
>Don't forget, those false messengers you dealt with never taught that the
>Spirit of God accompanies their works.
How would you know? Does it not occur to you that Art is a lot like an
Elvis impersonator -- and that you guys showing up at a convention of "Ones
Mighty and Strong" would be little different than a colloquy of Elvis
impersonators?
- S
father of peace
>Don't forget, those false messengers you dealt with never taught that the
>Spirit of God accompanies their works.
Actually, every single one of those messengers taught that the
Spirit of God accompanies their works.
>68 And I hereby set my seal, saith the Lord, upon this work and unto
>whomsoever it may come, that it verily is through and of me, saith the Lord,
>and doth teach men the right path which leadeth unto the eternal lives and a
>SPIRIT of peace will ACCOMPANY THIS WORK to testify that I have spoken it,
>saith the Lord God of the Lives.
Peace is very important to me. Few messengers bring peace with
them. They are way eager to condemn everyone to hell as sons
of perdition. They are way eager to reign down blood and horror
upon the nations. They are seldom willing to say, "peace be unto
you, even if you believe differently than I do." I believe that a
true messenger will say, 'Peace be unto the Methodists, and
peace be upon the polygamists, and peace be upon the
LdS, and peace be upon the Muslims'.
I haven't read brother Bulla's revelations, and I am not
likely to in the future. But if a man of peace comes among
us, I am very likely to hear about it through the grape vine.
>24 Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!
Wo indeed. I easily recognize that the saints
in Zion believe that 'this is the greatest epoch in
the history of the church'. It's a damnable belief.
>These continuing trials of your faith are meant to make you stronger,
I am stonger walking in accordance with my own
belief system, and with the revelation that god gives
directly to me, than I am by following a prophet,
regardless of who that prophet might happen to
be.
>26 If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife,
>and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he
>cannot be my disciple.
Last time an apostle told me that I should leave my family
in order to gather with that particular gathering, I walked
away and never regretted it.
>27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross,
>and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
I am not interested in being a disciple. God is
perfectly capable of speaking directly to me
if s/he wants to.
>16 Ye shall know them by their fruits.
That's exactly what I have been saying...
When I meet someone that can teach me levitation,
then I will listen to the message. Until then I am
just gonna sit back and watch. If I see someone
come along that is actually purifying the church
rather than just talking about it, then I might
spend an hour to listen to the message.
>In May 2000, Art Bulla laid his hands on my head, at my request, and by the
>power of God healed me of a severe affliction of eyes and nose.
I generally don't view healing as a sign from God. On a routine
basis people experience the placebo effect, where a belief
in something, even something bogus, is sufficient to heal
them from some malady or other.
For two years I suffered from an allergy to corn or anything
made from it such as corn syrup. One day I said, "This is
stupid!!! I have eaten corn my whole life." It's never
bothered me again.
>28 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the pointers which were in the
>ball, that they did work according to the FAITH and DILIGENCE and HEED which
>we did give unto them.
I don't have any pointers, and I don't know anyone that does.
>30 For the brother of Jared said unto the mountain Zerin, Remove and it was
>removed. And if he had not had faith it would not have moved; wherefore thou
>workest AFTER men have faith.
When brother Bulla posts in this newsgroup which moutain
is going to be removed, and when, and the mountain actually
moves on schedule, then I may pay attention.
>It is not by any outward manifestation of miraculous signs that a man is
>converted to the truth (the devil can do it to some extent also), but by the
>power of the Holy Ghost, and retaining this testimony to the end through
>obedience to the Priesthood.
Fascist obedience to church leaders has never worked
for me, and never will work for me. At the very foundation
of mormonism as I understand it is the principle of freedom.
I have never yet found a mormon prophet that grants freedom
of thought and action to his followers. When I do, I may
pay attention. One time I met one that claimed such a
belief, but it was a sham.
>For only by obedience to his Maker will a man
>retain the Spirit of revelation
Obedience to my maker is rarely the same as
obedience to a man claiming to represent my
maker.
>because I have experienced these
>things for myself.
I have experience many spiritual things. I am
perfectly willing to attribute them to the placebo
effect, or to my own bliss.
>7 ś How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good
>tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that
>publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
When I see someone that brings peace rather than contention
then perhaps I might pay attention. I'm still looking.
>Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
>http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
Selling religion to get gain?
father of peace
>That would save one the trouble of unhooking bras with one hand! ;-)
It's easier yet if you choose women that don't wear bras.
Or undies.
Goner
Measures <2...@vc.net> wrote:
LOL Only more boring.
Goner
<V61bb.146903$0v4.10...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Jong
Kim <jo...@artbulla.com> wrote:
> "Goner" <Go...@Dangerous1.com> wrote in message
> news:200920030214577346%Go...@Dangerous1.com...
> > In article
> > <aNTab.146141$0v4.10...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Jong
> > Kim <jo...@artbulla.com> wrote:
> >
> > Remember when Art said that the middle of the day turned dark as night
> > as a sign of his "crucifixion" at the hands of the Salt Lake legal
> > system?
> >
> > That was pretty funny, wasn't it?
>
> You lied again. That day in 1979 when he was unrighteously excommunicated by
> his brethren the Mormon Church (for not apologizing to Randy Olson as
> commanded of him by his stake council of High Priests, though it was Randy,
> Art's home teacher, that should have apologized to Art for jumping on top of
> him and beating on his face, whose only "offense" was to read at the Lord's
> command, the first 2 written revelations he had ever received, despite
> Olson's protest that Art stop reading), there was a sign given in the sky of
> Salt Lake City around the brighter part of the day. I don't remember what
> Art wrote me exactly but he definitely did not say that the entire sky
> turned dark as night.
LOL OK, that's right. It was his church court and not his legal
problems.
Here's what you posted on 2/23/02 relating a little chat between you
and Art:
> Art says:
> When I was "crucified" by the Mormons, the sun darkened at noonday in
> Salt
> Lake, the very day of my trial.
> Jong says:
> emperors Vespesian and Titus knew Josephus was a prophet of God and
> they
> sustained him.
> Art says:
> It became pitch dark for a few minutes.
> Jong says:
> thank you for your testimony, i didn't know that before.
Darkened at noonday, and it became "pitch dark" was what Art said.
I'd say that "dark as night" and "pitch dark" were similar.
Remember when I asked you to check at a library and read the two Salt
Lake City newspapers and see if anyone else noticed that it became
pitch dark at noonday?
Like I told you back then, Art is a lying sack of shit. Just like his
"revelation" about the upcoming moderation of this news group.
Go find someone else to lead you around by the nose, if that's what
you need to make it thru the day but ditch Art quickly. He is a fraud,
and dangerous to your mental health.
Jong Kim
Like I said, you twist things. And Art doesn't have any legal problems, so
you lied again, like when you keep saying Art is an ex-vaccum cleaner
salesman (truth is that Art is an ex-Encyclopedia Britannica salesman).
>
> Here's what you posted on 2/23/02 relating a little chat between you
> and Art:
>
> > Art says:
> > When I was "crucified" by the Mormons, the sun darkened at noonday in
> > Salt
> > Lake, the very day of my trial.
> > Jong says:
> > emperors Vespesian and Titus knew Josephus was a prophet of God and
> > they
> > sustained him.
> > Art says:
> > It became pitch dark for a few minutes.
> > Jong says:
> > thank you for your testimony, i didn't know that before.
>
> Darkened at noonday, and it became "pitch dark" was what Art said.
> I'd say that "dark as night" and "pitch dark" were similar.
>
> Remember when I asked you to check at a library and read the two Salt
> Lake City newspapers and see if anyone else noticed that it became
> pitch dark at noonday?
So the Lord dimmed the sky to a considerable extent for a few minutes, as a
sign of his displeasure with the Mormon Church for their excommunicating
Art. I've experienced similar situations during rainy seasons in California
where the sky turned pretty dark, because of dark rainy clouds (I am
referring in particular to one late morning a few years back where the
clouds were so dark some appeared nearly 100% black).
>
> Like I told you back then, Art is a lying sack of shit. Just like his
> "revelation" about the upcoming moderation of this news group.
I've already proved that the gist of that posting was a prophecy of a
complete loss of freedom in the United States, including freedom of speech
in the Internet (his posting time preceding by just a few hours the
unrighteous ruling by those three Federal judges to delay the California
gubernatorial recall election), which you always snip out in your replies,
whereas I do not to your words, again demonstrating that you are the one
without any credibility therefore you prefer the cover of darkness and lies.
"So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain what they consider
a temporary victory in shutting me up, for the COURTS are CORRUPT and the
WICKED are JUSTIFIED by these ATHEIST JUDGES and are thus fearless."
"This black Pharonic power is threatening to take away your liberty for if
these once again who are inspired of the devil, saith the Lord, are allowed
to reign, your speech and your liberty guaranteed by Ephraim, the founding
fathers, who are Ephraim, saith the Lord, Thomas Jefferson, Washington,
Franklin, et al, who manifested the racial characteristic of Ephraim in
fighting for the liberty of all mankind, will be lost, saith the Lord."
>
> Go find someone else to lead you around by the nose, if that's what
> you need to make it thru the day but ditch Art quickly. He is a fraud,
> and dangerous to your mental health.
I would never follow anyone around (unless he is sent of God), believe me,
I'm too independent, as was my great-grandfather that cried out and openly
protested the Japanese occupation of Korea and was tortured to death for
doing so.
I realize that you want me to join your ranks, since misery loves company,
but I don't want the devil to lead me around by the nose.
Lundwall, "Fate of the Persecutors of the Prophet Joseph Smith"
... The statement of Seth Howe had a lasting impression on me as he related:
'My grandfather was one of the leaders of the mob which murdered Joe Smith.'
I questioned him further as to what became of his grandfather afterwards. He
related that following the assassination of Joseph Smith his grandfather
never saw a well day, although he lived for several years afterwards. His
condition grew progressively worse and physicians of the day who called to
attend him were unable to diagnose it as any known affliction, but his
suffering was so intense that he frequently expressed the desire to obtain
poison to end it all. His family very carefully kept anything of that nature
out of his reach and at his final demise he actually had rotted alive,
finally dying in intense agony. ...
... He was literally eaten alive by worms. His eye balls had fallen out, the
flesh on his cheeks and neck had fallen off, and though he could breathe he
could take nourishment only through an opening in his throat. Pieces of
flesh as large as two hands had reputedly fallen from different parts of his
body. ...
Josephus, "Antiquities of the Jews", Book 17, Ch. 6
... But now Herod's distemper greatly increased upon him after a severe
manner, and this by God's judgment upon him for his sins; for a fire glowed
in him slowly, which did not so much appear to the touch outwardly, as it
augmented his pains inwardly; for it brought upon him a vehement appetite to
eating, which he could not avoid to supply with one sort of food or other.
His entrails were also ex-ulcerated, and the chief violence of his pain lay
on his colon; an aqueous and transparent liquor also had settled itself
about his feet, and a like matter afflicted him at the bottom of his belly.
Nay, further, his privy-member was putrefied, and produced worms; and when
he sat upright, he had a difficulty of breathing, which was very loathsome,
on account of the stench of his breath, and the quickness of its returns; he
had also convulsions in all parts of his body, which increased his strength
to an insufferable degree. ...
Book 17, Ch. 7
... but as his pains were become very great, he was now ready to faint for
want of somewhat to eat; so he called for an apple and a knife; for it was
his custom formerly to pare the apple himself, and soon afterwards to cut
it, and eat it. When he had got the knife, he looked about, and had a mind
to stab himself with it; and he had done it, had not his first cousin,
Achiabus, prevented him, and held his hand, and cried out loudly. ...
Book 17, Ch. 8
... He also made provision for all the rest of his kindred, by giving them
sums of money and annual revenues, and so left them all in a wealthy
condition. He bequeathed also to Caesar ten millions [of drachmae] of coined
money, besides both vessels of gold and silver, and garments exceeding
costly, to Julia, Caesar's wife; and to certain others, five millions. When
he had done these things, he died, the fifth day after he had caused
Antipater to be slain; having reigned, since he had procured Antigonus to be
slain, thirty-four years; but since he had been declared king by the Romans,
thirty-seven. (11) A man he was of great barbarity towards all men equally,
and a slave to his passion; but above the consideration of what was right;
yet was he favored by fortune as much as any man ever was, for from a
private man he became a king; and though he were encompassed with ten
thousand dangers, he got clear of them all, and continued his life till a
very old age. But then, as to the affairs of his family and children, in
which indeed, according to his own opinion, he was also very fortunate,
because he was able to conquer his enemies, yet, in my opinion, he was
herein very unfortunate. ...
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>
Jong Kim
>
> >Don't forget, those false messengers you dealt with never taught that the
> >Spirit of God accompanies their works.
>
> Actually, every single one of those messengers taught that the
> Spirit of God accompanies their works.
>
> >68 And I hereby set my seal, saith the Lord, upon this work and unto
> >whomsoever it may come, that it verily is through and of me, saith the
Lord,
> >and doth teach men the right path which leadeth unto the eternal lives
and a
> >SPIRIT of peace will ACCOMPANY THIS WORK to testify that I have spoken
it,
> >saith the Lord God of the Lives.
>
> Peace is very important to me. Few messengers bring peace with
> them. They are way eager to condemn everyone to hell as sons
> of perdition. They are way eager to reign down blood and horror
> upon the nations. They are seldom willing to say, "peace be unto
> you, even if you believe differently than I do." I believe that a
> true messenger will say, 'Peace be unto the Methodists, and
> peace be upon the polygamists, and peace be upon the
> LdS, and peace be upon the Muslims'.
>
> I haven't read brother Bulla's revelations, and I am not
> likely to in the future. But if a man of peace comes among
> us, I am very likely to hear about it through the grape vine.
There can be no peace, except there first be a righteous struggle against
evil to establish peace on the earth.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
36 And a man's foes [shall be] they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he
that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy
of me.
39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for
my sake shall find it.
40 ś He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth
him that sent me.
41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a
prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a
righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.
(New Testament | Matthew 10:34 - 41)
6 For behold, if ye deny the Holy Ghost when it once has had place in you,
and ye know that ye deny it, behold, this is a sin which is unpardonable;
yea, and whosoever murdereth against the light and knowledge of God, it is
not easy for him to obtain forgiveness; yea, I say unto you, my son, that it
is not easy for him to obtain a forgiveness.
7 And now, my son, I would to God that ye had not been guilty of so great a
crime. I would not dwell upon your crimes, to harrow up your soul, if it
were not for your good.
8 But behold, ye cannot hide your crimes from God; and except ye repent they
will stand as a testimony against you at the last day.
(Book of Mormon | Alma 39:6 - 8)
>
>
> >7 ś How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth
good
> >tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that
> >publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
>
> When I see someone that brings peace rather than contention
> then perhaps I might pay attention. I'm still looking.
2 But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated,
as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the
gospel of God with much contention.
3 For our exhortation [was] not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile:
4 But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so
we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which TRIETH our HEARTS.
(New Testament | 1 Thessalonians 2:2 - 4)
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>
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Scott Marquardt
>> Like I told you back then, Art is a lying sack of shit. Just like his
>> "revelation" about the upcoming moderation of this news group.
>
>I've already proved that the gist of that posting was <snip>
So what?
You ask your cousin Bob what on earth he meant in his letter, where he
mentioned his wild sex with some guy named Jim last Tuesday. It would
hardly be an answer to your question if he objected that the gist of his
letter was about his new friends.
No one's denying the "gist." But Art claimed something very specific; he
said the Lord told him that the moderation of this group was an attempt to
silence him.
Art has not defended his false claim (there's no moderation coming to this
group, as you finally realized), and neither have you. It's apparent that
Art is either hearing voices, or he's lying. He uses the phrase "the Lord
says" (or comparable) whenever he gets agitated and feels the compulsion to
vent his anger. It's pretty sad.
Jong, what's the truth about this? You pretend that answering questions no
one is the same as answering the one question at issue. It's not.
- Scott
Goner
Jong Kim wrote:
LOL. Excuuuuuuse me, (with apologies to Steve Martin).
I'll try to remember, door to door encyclopedia salesman, not vacuum cleaner
salesman.
>
>
> >
> > Here's what you posted on 2/23/02 relating a little chat between you
> > and Art:
> >
> > > Art says:
> > > When I was "crucified" by the Mormons, the sun darkened at noonday in
> > > Salt
> > > Lake, the very day of my trial.
> > > Jong says:
> > > emperors Vespesian and Titus knew Josephus was a prophet of God and
> > > they
> > > sustained him.
> > > Art says:
> > > It became pitch dark for a few minutes.
> > > Jong says:
> > > thank you for your testimony, i didn't know that before.
> >
> > Darkened at noonday, and it became "pitch dark" was what Art said.
> > I'd say that "dark as night" and "pitch dark" were similar.
> >
> > Remember when I asked you to check at a library and read the two Salt
> > Lake City newspapers and see if anyone else noticed that it became
> > pitch dark at noonday?
>
> So the Lord dimmed the sky to a considerable extent for a few minutes,
No, pitch dark, not "dimmed to a considerable extent".
> as a
> sign of his displeasure with the Mormon Church for their excommunicating
> Art. I've experienced similar situations during rainy seasons in California
> where the sky turned pretty dark,
LOL. No, not "pretty dark", pitch dark.
> because of dark rainy clouds (I am
> referring in particular to one late morning a few years back where the
> clouds were so dark some appeared nearly 100% black).
No, not dark clouds, pitch dark.
LOL
>
>
> >
> > Like I told you back then, Art is a lying sack of shit. Just like his
> > "revelation" about the upcoming moderation of this news group.
>
> I've already proved that the gist of that posting was a prophecy of a
> complete loss of freedom in the United States, including freedom of speech
> in the Internet (his posting time preceding by just a few hours the
> unrighteous ruling by those three Federal judges to delay the California
> gubernatorial recall election), which you always snip out in your replies,
> whereas I do not to your words, again demonstrating that you are the one
> without any credibility therefore you prefer the cover of darkness and lies.
"The Lord says this
imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as I
brandish it like a sword."
Art Bulla
Read it slowly over and over until you understand that it says exactly what it
says.
We can see who prefers darkness (LOL) and lies.
(snip)
>
> I would never follow anyone around (unless he is sent of God), believe me,
> I'm too independent, as was my great-grandfather that cried out and openly
> protested the Japanese occupation of Korea and was tortured to death for
> doing so.
>
> I realize that you want me to join your ranks, since misery loves company,
> but I don't want the devil to lead me around by the nose.
I don't want you to join my ranks. I want you to think for yourself.
>
>
> Lundwall, "Fate of the Persecutors of the Prophet Joseph Smith"
>
> ... The statement of Seth Howe had a lasting impression on me as he related:
> 'My grandfather was one of the leaders of the mob which murdered Joe Smith.'
> I questioned him further as to what became of his grandfather afterwards. He
> related that following the assassination of Joseph Smith his grandfather
> never saw a well day, although he lived for several years afterwards. His
> condition grew progressively worse and physicians of the day who called to
> attend him were unable to diagnose it as any known affliction, but his
> suffering was so intense that he frequently expressed the desire to obtain
> poison to end it all. His family very carefully kept anything of that nature
> out of his reach and at his final demise he actually had rotted alive,
> finally dying in intense agony. ...
>
> ... He was literally eaten alive by worms. His eye balls had fallen out, the
> flesh on his cheeks and neck had fallen off, and though he could breathe he
> could take nourishment only through an opening in his throat. Pieces of
> flesh as large as two hands had reputedly fallen from different parts of his
> body. ...
LOL.
Dangerous1
father of peace
>There can be no peace, except there first be a righteous struggle against
>evil to establish peace on the earth.
I find peace just fine within my own heart. I don't need
to struggle and fight looking for peace which never comes
by the sword. Peace only comes by saying to my brother,
peace be unto you, and unto the methodists, and unto
the polygamists, and unto the LdS, and unto the muslims.
The biggest evil on earth is people taking up the sword
to enFORCE their religious views against their peacable
neighbors who believe differently.
>37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he
>that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
Then I am not worthy...
>> I have experience many spiritual things. I am
>> perfectly willing to attribute them to the placebo
>> effect, or to my own bliss.
>6 For behold, if ye deny the Holy Ghost when it once has had place in you,
>and ye know that ye deny it, behold, this is a sin which is unpardonable;
Ah, I figured it was only a matter of time before you called me a
son of perdition. It' such a common thing among those who claim
to be godly.
>8 But behold, ye cannot hide your crimes from God; and except ye repent they
>will stand as a testimony against you at the last day.
I repented a long time ago of following men who claim to represent
God. They never do and never will. God is perfectly willing to speak
directly to me regarding my own needs. There is no need to get the
message garbled by putting a man, however decent, between
myself and God.
>(New Testament | 1 Thessalonians 2:2 - 4)
I don't have much use for scripture. The people who wrote
them were common men, very prone to errors in judgement and
understanding. I prefer to deal directly with God rather than
relying on a man to garble the message for me.
>Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
>http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
Selling religion in order to get power and gain? How sad.
Scott Marquardt
>Jong Kim wrote:
>> Like I said, you twist things. And Art doesn't have any legal problems, so
>> you lied again, like when you keep saying Art is an ex-vaccum cleaner
>> salesman (truth is that Art is an ex-Encyclopedia Britannica salesman).
>LOL. Excuuuuuuse me, (with apologies to Steve Martin).
>I'll try to remember, door to door encyclopedia salesman, not vacuum cleaner
>salesman.
He shoulda stuck with that. Jong's his only current customer. A repeat
customer, to be sure, every single day buying into the lunacy. But a
customer all the same.
There's something poignant about an encyclopedia salesman in a declining
market, coming to his end this way. No sales pitch works anymore. You
become desperate. Your impotence in terms of sales fosters fantasies of
power. Eventually you convince yourself that God's on your side. You begin
to identify your frustrations with his. Finally you go over the edge and
start selling your delusions. There are few buyers. But all you need is
one.
Then along he comes.
>> So the Lord dimmed the sky to a considerable extent for a few minutes,
>
>No, pitch dark, not "dimmed to a considerable extent".
Yup, that's what Art said. The sky was pitch black.
A dark sky could be attributed to, as Jong indicates, heavy cloud cover.
But "pitch" blackness?
Art seems to evoke signs of biblical proportions. Of course, biblical signs
were given to attest something. In the case of Art's blackout (an equivocal
term, here, if ever there was one), the only person who witnessed any
attestation was Art himself. Given how mercurial his emotions can be, I
have little doubt the phenomenon was just his own rage darkening his
perceptions -- "seeing red" as it's sometimes called. That explanation
would certainly be consistent with his behavior in these parts. He gets mad
and starts "receiving a revelation this second," and so forth.
- Scott
Scott Marquardt
>Jong said:
>>Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
>>http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
>Selling religion in order to get power and gain? How sad.
I've noticed that in Jong's sig, and thought it kind of witless. The gaffe
is so obvious. Why on earth would Jesus want his revelations to be
available only to those who would pay money to Art Bulla? Is giving money
to Art the divinely ordained price of knowing Truth?
- Scott
Jong Kim
> Goner wrote:
> >Jong Kim wrote:
>
> >> Like I said, you twist things. And Art doesn't have any legal problems,
so
> >> you lied again, like when you keep saying Art is an ex-vaccum cleaner
> >> salesman (truth is that Art is an ex-Encyclopedia Britannica salesman).
>
> >LOL. Excuuuuuuse me, (with apologies to Steve Martin).
> >I'll try to remember, door to door encyclopedia salesman, not vacuum
cleaner
> >salesman.
>
> He shoulda stuck with that. Jong's his only current customer. A repeat
> customer, to be sure, every single day buying into the lunacy. But a
> customer all the same.
>
> There's something poignant about an encyclopedia salesman in a declining
> market, coming to his end this way. No sales pitch works anymore. You
> become desperate. Your impotence in terms of sales fosters fantasies of
> power. Eventually you convince yourself that God's on your side. You begin
> to identify your frustrations with his. Finally you go over the edge and
> start selling your delusions. There are few buyers. But all you need is
> one.
>
> Then along he comes.
44 ś Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the
which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and
selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
45 ś Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking
goodly pearls:
46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that
he had, and bought it.
(New Testament | Matthew 13:44 - 46)
26 And I also cast my eyes round about, and beheld, on the other side of the
river of water, a great and spacious building; and it stood as it were in
the air, high above the earth.
27 And it was filled with people, both old and young, both male and female;
and their manner of dress was exceedingly fine; and they were in the
attitude of mocking and pointing their fingers towards those who had come at
and were partaking of the fruit.
28 And after they had tasted of the fruit they were ashamed, because of
those that were scoffing at them; and they fell away into forbidden paths
and were lost.
29 And now I, Nephi, do not speak all the words of my father.
30 But, to be short in writing, behold, he saw other multitudes pressing
forward; and they came and caught hold of the end of the rod of iron; and
they did press their way forward, continually holding fast to the rod of
iron, until they came forth and fell down and partook of the fruit of the
tree.
31 And he also saw other multitudes feeling their way towards that great and
spacious building.
32 And it came to pass that many were drowned in the depths of the fountain;
and many were lost from his view, wandering in strange roads.
33 And great was the multitude that did enter into that strange building.
And after they did enter into that building they did point the finger of
scorn at me and those that were partaking of the fruit also; but we heeded
them not.
34 These are the words of my father: For as many as heeded them, had fallen
away.
35 And Laman and Lemuel partook not of the fruit, said my father.
(Book of Mormon | 1 Nephi 8:26 - 35)
>
> >> So the Lord dimmed the sky to a considerable extent for a few minutes,
> >
> >No, pitch dark, not "dimmed to a considerable extent".
>
> Yup, that's what Art said. The sky was pitch black.
>
> A dark sky could be attributed to, as Jong indicates, heavy cloud cover.
> But "pitch" blackness?
>
> Art seems to evoke signs of biblical proportions. Of course, biblical
signs
> were given to attest something. In the case of Art's blackout (an
equivocal
> term, here, if ever there was one), the only person who witnessed any
> attestation was Art himself. Given how mercurial his emotions can be, I
> have little doubt the phenomenon was just his own rage darkening his
> perceptions -- "seeing red" as it's sometimes called. That explanation
> would certainly be consistent with his behavior in these parts. He gets
mad
> and starts "receiving a revelation this second," and so forth.
>
> - Scott
24 [Ye] blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
(New Testament | Matthew 23:24)
29 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes
of the blind shall see out of obscurity and out of darkness.
30 And the meek also shall increase, and their joy shall be in the Lord, and
the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.
31 For assuredly as the Lord liveth they shall see that the terrible one is
brought to naught, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for
iniquity are cut off;
32 And they that make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him
that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of naught.
33 Therefore, thus saith the Lord, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the
house of Jacob: Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now
wax pale.
34 But when he seeth his children, the work of my hands, in the midst of
him, they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and
shall fear the God of Israel.
35 They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that
murmured shall learn doctrine.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 27:29 - 35)
Scott Marquardt
Scott M said:
>30 But, to be short in writing, behold, he saw other multitudes pressing
>forward; and they came and caught hold of the end of the rod of iron; and
>they did press their way forward, continually holding fast to the rod of
>iron, until they came forth and fell down and partook of the fruit of the
>tree.
How is this relevant to how many people have found Art to be the worthy
object of their attention?
>> Yup, that's what Art said. The sky was pitch black.
>24 [Ye] blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Not at all. It's material whether it was as dark as could be accounted for
by heavy clouds, as *you* said, or whether it was something that could not
be, as *Art* said.
Interesting that you can't tell the difference between a material and a
trivial factoid.
But not at all interesting, that you just cut and paste other people's
texts, rather than defending the Art/Jong nexus of nonsense with sound
answers.
- Scott
Jong Kim
You lied again. The electronic PDF format of "The Revelations of Jesus
Christ" is freely available via download, has been for many months. At the
main home page artbulla.com, it says (2 links):
---
Purchase Volume
Or Download the Revelations of Jesus Christ (electronically published)
---
Go to http://www.artbulla.com/zion/order.html for the free downloads of PDF
files.
7 And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they
give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.
(New Testament | Luke 10:7)
79 Behold, I send you out to prove the world, and the laborer is worthy of
his hire.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 84:79)
7 ś How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good
tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that
publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
8 Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they
sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 52:7 - 8)
Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
Tune into http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=artbulla
Forwhatitsworth
"Jong Kim" <jo...@artbulla.com> slathered:
<snip>
>
> You lied again. The electronic PDF format of "The Revelations of Jesus
> Christ" is freely available via download, has been for many months. At the
> main home page artbulla.com, it says (2 links):
> ---
Jonggie,
So how many have bothered to DL it? How many other Jongs are there? Who,
besides yourself, is a willing participant in Art's <fevered> dreams?
Mark
FWIW
father of peace
>> >>Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
>> >>http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
>> >Selling religion in order to get power and gain? How sad.
>You lied again. The electronic PDF format of "The Revelations of Jesus
>Christ" is freely available via download,
Then perhaps rather than offering to sell religion, you should
offer religion for free. It seems to me, from a marketing
perspective, that "FREE DOWNLOAD OF THE REVELATIONS
of JESUS CHRIST" would draw more interest to your site
than "Purchase the revelations of Jesus Christ". Especially
if you are targeting a mormon audience: 'Purchase Religion'
just doesn't work well for mormons.
>79 Behold, I send you out to prove the world, and the laborer is worthy of
>his hire.
I think that King Benjamin's example would be more appropriate:
When the king left his fields to preach, then the people left their
fields to hear.
Love,
Absalom
>Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
>http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
Selling religion to get power and gain? How sad.
Scott Marquardt
>> >Jong said:
>> >>Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
>> >>http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
>> >Selling religion in order to get power and gain? How sad.
>> I've noticed that in Jong's sig, and thought it kind of witless. The gaffe
>> is so obvious. Why on earth would Jesus want his revelations to be
>> available only to those who would pay money to Art Bulla? Is giving money
>> to Art the divinely ordained price of knowing Truth?
>You lied again. The electronic PDF format of "The Revelations of Jesus
>Christ" is freely available via download, has been for many months. At the
>main home page artbulla.com, it says (2 links):
How did I lie? I know your web site has the material. That only makes
mentioning the saleable version -- but not the free version -- in your sig
all the more greedy.
- Scott
Scott Marquardt
>So the Lord dimmed the sky to a considerable extent for a few minutes, as a
>sign of his displeasure with the Mormon Church for their excommunicating
>Art.
To whom did the "sign" signify anything? To only Art?
Did anyone else catch the "sign"ificance of it?
If not, why did your god's sign fail to signify? Or was this sign just for
Art?
Jong, have you ever noticed that when Art is really pissed, he starts
projecting his emotions onto the real world -- including God himself? All
these things over the years that have putatively vindicated his calling --
has it ever occured to you that Art is just sublimating each crisis he
weathers?
Jong, you've hitched you cart to a sick mule. You're being led by someone
who will probably need years of professional help before he can grasp
reality again. Alternatively, he might just be lacking some chemical
balance, and some medication could do miracles for him almost immediately.
Dude, while you have a chance, see what you can do for Art. Maybe God
called you not to follow Art, but to lead him back to wholeness.
Tread carefully, Jong. If you'd like to correspond privately by email
without Art's knowledge, my email address is my first name at marquardts
dot org
- Scott
€ R.L. Measures
"Jong Kim" <jo...@artbulla.com> wrote:
> "Goner" <Go...@Dangerous1.com> wrote in message
> news:210920030128498901%Go...@Dangerous1.com...
> > In article
> > <V61bb.146903$0v4.10...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Jong
> > Kim <jo...@artbulla.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ...
> > Darkened at noonday, and it became "pitch dark" was what Art said.
> > I'd say that "dark as night" and "pitch dark" were similar.
> >
> > Remember when I asked you to check at a library and read the two Salt
> > Lake City newspapers and see if anyone else noticed that it became
> > pitch dark at noonday?
>
> So the Lord dimmed the sky to a considerable extent for a few minutes, as a
> sign of his displeasure with the Mormon Church for their excommunicating
> Art. ...
€€ what is he smoking?
--
Rich, AG6K, 805-386-3734
€ R.L. Measures
RwEaMs...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Jong Kim wrote:
>
> >> Like I told you back then, Art is a lying sack of shit. Just like his
> >> "revelation" about the upcoming moderation of this news group.
> >
> >I've already proved that the gist of that posting was <snip>
>
> So what?
>
> You ask your cousin Bob what on earth he meant in his letter, where he
> mentioned his wild sex with some guy named Jim last Tuesday. It would
> hardly be an answer to your question if he objected that the gist of his
> letter was about his new friends.
>
> No one's denying the "gist." But Art claimed something very specific; he
> said the Lord told him that the moderation of this group was an attempt to
> silence him.
>
> Art has not defended his false claim (there's no moderation coming to this
> group, as you finally realized), and neither have you. It's apparent that
> Art is either hearing voices, or he's lying. He uses the phrase "the Lord
> says" (or comparable) whenever he gets agitated and feels the compulsion to
> vent his anger. It's pretty sad.
>
€ more like bizarre.
--
Rich, AG6K, 805-386-3734
John Manning
€ R.L. Measures wrote:
I really like the part where he claims that
he's "gathering Israel". 'Israel' must be
the chickens in his neighbor's back yard.
John Manning
>
€ R.L. Measures
<jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:
€ John -- so maybe the chickens are kosher?
--
Rich, AG6K, 805-386-3734
Jong Kim
You are a devil, not just another liar. Go your way, and I'll go mine. I
know you are already in torment, because of the diamond truth that cuts
through all things.
Goner
<CJMbb.155176$3o3.11...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Jong
Kim <jo...@artbulla.com> wrote:
"The Lord says this imposed moderation is an
attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up
as I brandish it like a sword."
Art Bulla
--
Cheers,
Don Marchant
dangerous1.com
Scott Marquardt
Diamond truth for a diamond price.
Why not mention that it's free in your sig too, Jong, so people will be
able to see what they're buying?
At any rate, Art hasn't answered the charge that he's proven himself a
false prophet by claiming that "the Lord" said that "imposed moderation"
was in order to censor him.
It's safe to assume that's an impossible expectation. The only defense you
guys have made is the lame "gist" defense -- as if claiming that the moon
is made of green cheese was just an irrelevant part of a research paper,
the gist of which is that venus and mars aren't made of paper mache.
- Scott
father of peace
>Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
>http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
Selling religion to get power and gain? How sad.
Aaron Kim
> Goner wrote:
> >Jong Kim wrote:
>
> >> Like I said, you twist things. And Art doesn't have any legal problems,
so
> >> you lied again, like when you keep saying Art is an ex-vaccum cleaner
> >> salesman (truth is that Art is an ex-Encyclopedia Britannica salesman).
>
> >LOL. Excuuuuuuse me, (with apologies to Steve Martin).
> >I'll try to remember, door to door encyclopedia salesman, not vacuum
cleaner
> >salesman.
>
> He shoulda stuck with that. Jong's his only current customer. A repeat
> customer, to be sure, every single day buying into the lunacy. But a
> customer all the same.
>
> There's something poignant about an encyclopedia salesman in a declining
> market, coming to his end this way. No sales pitch works anymore. You
> become desperate. Your impotence in terms of sales fosters fantasies of
> power. Eventually you convince yourself that God's on your side. You begin
> to identify your frustrations with his. Finally you go over the edge and
> start selling your delusions. There are few buyers. But all you need is
> one.
49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.
(New Testament | John 8:48 - 52)
Without revelation direct from heaven, it is impossible for any person to understand fully the plan of salvation. We often hear it said that the living oracles must be in the Church, in order that the Kingdom of God may be established and prosper on the earth. I will give another version of this sentiment. I say that the living oracles of God, or the Spirit of revelation must be in each and every individual, to know the plan of salvation and keep in the path that leads them to the presence of God. 9:279.
These priestcrafters the secterians are operating the church under the guise of being faithful servants of God but they are only interested in making money so they don't want anything that would enlighten people and loosen their grip on the deceived masses just like in the days of Jesus and His apostels Priestcraft is anything that is not geared to the building of the kingdom of God. The Lord's prayer says, "Father in Heaven , hallowed be thy name, thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven". So when these priestcrafters and all other types of liars like the ones on a.r.m are exposed with the truth, they are angered, gnash their teeth, and mob us just like all the messengers of God are confronted when they dare boldly declare the truth to them. It's like lifting up a rock and finding all these heinous little bugs scurrying around in every direction.
24
Yea, wo unto this people, because of this time which has arrived, that ye do cast out the prophets, and do mock them, and cast stones at them, and do slay them, and do all manner of iniquity unto them, even as they did of old time.25
And now when ye talk, ye say: If our days had been in the days of our fathers of old, we would not have slain the prophets; we would not have stoned them, and cast them out.26
Behold ye are worse than they; for as the Lord liveth, if a prophet come among you and declareth unto you the word of the Lord, which testifieth of your sins and iniquities, ye are angry with him, and cast him out and seek all manner of ways to destroy him; yea, you will say that he is a false prophet, and that he is a sinner, and of the devil, because he testifieth that your deeds are evil.(
Book of Mormon | Helaman 13:24 - 26)‘‘Brethren this Church shall be led on o the very brink of hell by the
leadersArt Bulla is a literal descendant of Jesus Christ also prophesied as the Root of Jesse to gather Israel in the last days. It is by this royal lineage according to the Davidic covenant that he has rights to the priveliege of holding the keys to the Priesthood in these last times.
16
Therefore, I will raise up unto my people a man, who shall lead them like as Moses led the children of Israel.17
For ye are the children of Israel, and of the seed of Abraham, and ye must needs be led out of bondage by power, and with a stretched–out arm.18
And as your fathers were led at the first, even so shall the redemption of Zion be.(
Doctrine and Covenants | Section 103:15 - 18)7
And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send one mighty and strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand, clothed with light for a covering, whose mouth shall utter words, eternal words; while his bowels shall be a fountain of truth, to set in order the house of God, and to arrange by lot the inheritances of the saints whose names are found, and the names of their fathers, and of their children, enrolled in the book of the law of God;(
Doctrine and Covenants | Section 85:7)10
And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.(
Old Testament | Isaiah 11:10)5
What is the root of Jesse spoken of in the 10th verse of the 11th chapter?6
Behold, thus saith the Lord, it is a descendant of Jesse, as well as of Joseph, unto whom rightly belongs the priesthood, and the keys of the kingdom, for an ensign, and for the gathering of my people in the last days.(
Doctrine and Covenants | Section 113:5 - 6)25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:(
New Testament | Romans 11:26)12
And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.(
New Testament | Romans 15:12)--
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>Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
Selling religion to get power and gain? Makes me feel sad.
Goner
Aaron Kim wrote:
How much "tithing" have you paid that silly fraud so far?
D1
The Rock
It is a common mistake man makes in saying that a prophet is uncommon among
the people at large:
A prophet is a common thing according to St. John, for (Rev. 19:10) "the
testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
So, if Art has a real "testimony of Jesus" then he has "the spirit of
prophecy" for he speaks of things to come, which have not happen, that will
one day come to past, the kingdoms of this world shall become the kingdoms
of our Lord.
So what if he's a prophet, what is more important than being a prophet, is
being a prophet that shows love for others:
(I Corinthians 13:2) "And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand
all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I
could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing."
So I ask, is Art a nothing when it comes to charity?
Is he an egotist who is more worry about what others may thing of him?
Does Art spend too much time here in A.R.M. trying to defend himself?
I now think that if he were a prophet with a real testimony of Jesus, he
would show us his power by calling down fire from heaven. For even a prophet
of Satan can do that.
However, Art will say that to ask God to do this would be tempting the Lord.
Yes it is tempting the Lord, but it was done before in order to save Israel,
so why not do it again?:
(I Kings 18:36-37) "And it came to pass at the time of the offering of the
evening sacrifice, that Elijah the prophet came near, and said, Lord God of
Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, let it be known this day that thou art God in
Israel, and that I am thy servant, and that I have done all these things at
thy word. Hear me, O Lord, hear me, that this people may know that thou art
the Lord God, and that thou hast turned their heart back again."
Was not this tempting God? Yes, but God allowed it then, why not allow it
again?
(I King 18:38) "Then the fire of the Lord fell, and consumed the burnt
sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the
water that was in the trench."
So all people were saved that day, and it can happen again in the near
future I hope, that God shall make himself known again. Then we will know
if he is a real prophet.
Besides this test, I can find another test of a true prophet:
A prophet receives no honor in his own country, but in foreign countries he
receives honor.
So I ask, has Art been rejected in his own country?
And the answer is yes, so he foots the bill, and the shoes fits him well. So
by rejecting him we make more a prophet.
Just like Jesus Christ, he was reject by his own country, yet accepted by
the rest of the world, even Emperor Cesar like Jesus and Thomas, he called
his little twins.
(Matthew 13:57) "And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A
prophet is not without honor, save in his own country, and in his own
house."
But in order to past this test, I ask has Art been accept outside this
country?
And if the answer is still yes, then I have only this say about this
prophet:
(I Corinthians 13:2) "And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand
all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I
could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing."
I find no posts were Art shows himself to be a man with "charity" for
others, only posts were he is caught up with being a egotist, "Look what I
have done." sort of thing. And just like and egotist that he is, he has no
time to care about others and show forth charity towards the household of
God, but is just a busy body in search of mischief.
Joshua Israel Gemmell
Scott Marquardt
>"Scott Marquardt" wrote:
>> There's something poignant about an encyclopedia salesman in a declining
>> market, coming to his end this way. No sales pitch works anymore. You
>> become desperate. Your impotence in terms of sales fosters fantasies of
>> power. Eventually you convince yourself that God's on your side. You begin
>> to identify your frustrations with his. Finally you go over the edge and
>> start selling your delusions. There are few buyers. But all you need is
>> one.
>
>More crazy conjecturing and slanders. Sounds like you must work for the NY Times.
I realize that's all nonsense -- the problem is that you guys don't realize
how nonsensical your rants are.
>It seems like true prophets of the Lord are only considered genuine once
>they're dead.
And false prophets are considered false while they're alive. Your point
would be?
>But then if you then get hundreds of years of tradition
>establishing them as prophets like Jesus for example or more recently
>Joseph Smith, then everyone accepts them.
"Everyone accepts" Joseph Smith?
>But isn't a true sign of a true
>believer is someone who is always willing to receive more revelations from
>God than just thoughtlessly following traditions ?
Sure. But isn't it a sign of credulity to follow a ranting lunatic as if
his rejection by others was proof of his authenticity?
>The people who don't want to receive more revelations are either severly
>deceived or they are priestcrafters.
The 3 people who think Art's rants are revelations people don't want to
receive, are missing the point.
>These priestcrafters the secterians are operating the church under the
>guise of being faithful servants of God but they are only interested in making money
LOL
That's why the last line in your post reads thus:
>Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ: http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
>So when these priestcrafters and all other types of liars like the ones on a.r.m
>are exposed with the truth, they are angered, gnash their teeth, and mob us just
>like all the messengers of God are confronted when they dare boldly declare the
>truth to them. It's like lifting up a rock and finding all these heinous little bugs
>scurrying around in every direction.
Do you realize how stoned out of your gourd you are? Do you honestly
believe readers of your rants in this forum are convicted by the "truth" of
Art's rants?
Look at it this way, Aaron. There are atheists here who reject the basic
premise that there is a God. Consider that if they reject that basic
premise, they're hardly going to be convicted of the truth of revelations
coming from a God they don't believe is there to give the revelations in
the first place.
Think of it this way. If someone doesn't believe we went to the moon, it's
no good telling them the reason they laugh at the astronaut giving a talk
at their college is because they're intimidated by someone who's actually
walked on the moon.
Do you understand this?
>Art Bulla I declare by REVELATION from the HOLY SPIRIT
So? Lots of people you disagree with declare things by the Holy Spirit. Why
should anyone believe *your* story about what the Holy Spirit says?
That wasn't a rhetorical question, Aaron. What compelling reasons can you
offer for why anyone should believe you, and not others?
>that he is a true prophet of the Lord. He is the one who has been sent
>forth in these latter days to gather Zion.
So where's Zion, Aaron? How long has he been gathering?
>Art Bulla is a literal descendant of Jesus Christ
Art Bulla is a fruitcake nonpareil. He could rejoin the ranks of humanity
and offer his insights as opinions to be considered among peers in the
human race at any time. He has chosen to be a total lunatic instead.
Aaron, wise up.
- Scott
Scott Marquardt
>A prophet receives no honor in his own country, but in foreign countries he
>receives honor.
>So I ask, has Art been rejected in his own country?
>And the answer is yes, so he foots the bill, and the shoes fits him well. So
>by rejecting him we make more a prophet.
1. If Art is a prophet, then he will be rejected in his own country.
2. Art is rejected in his own country.
3. Therefore, Art is a prophet.
Logical fallacy. Specifically, you're affirmin the consequent.
See also Modus tollens http://snurl.com/2fzk
>But in order to past this test, I ask has Art been accept outside this
>country?
Again, it doesn't matter. Lots of nonprophets are accepted outside their
country, so that proves nothing either.
>I find no posts were Art shows himself to be a man with "charity" for
>others, only posts were he is caught up with being a egotist, "Look what I
>have done." sort of thing. And just like and egotist that he is, he has no
>time to care about others and show forth charity towards the household of
>God, but is just a busy body in search of mischief.
That seems about right. But I think he's probably psychotic. Jong and Aaron
are seriously in need of help, too, but Art's clearly the fruitcake that
keeps it all going.
- Scott
Goner
Marquardt <do...@doot.com> wrote:
We know who's making money playing the "faithful servant of god".
Art is the only one here collecting "tithing" from his friends.
--
Cheers,
Don Marchant
dangerous1.com
Jong Kim
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"The Rock" <starg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Read the above again, it says Elijah did things according to the will of
God, and the fire also came down when Elijah was moved upon by the Holy
Spirit to call for it.
>
>
>
> (I King 18:38) "Then the fire of the Lord fell, and consumed the burnt
> sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the
> water that was in the trench."
>
>
>
> So all people were saved that day, and it can happen again in the near
> future I hope, that God shall make himself known again. Then we will know
> if he is a real prophet.
You contradicted the scriptures again.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona:
for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is
in heaven.
(New Testament | Matthew 16:17)
Signs follow them that believe, as it is written. Aaron performed the sign
at the parking lot, not by his own will, though he requested some kind of
guidance or help having perfect faith at that very moment, but by the will
and power of God it was done for him. The Lord will give his grace (favor)
to whomsoever he will, in his own time and in his own way, if his
servant/handmaid will have sincere faith.
Excuse me, Art Bulla gives money to Negroes when requested, I've seen him do
it on two different occasions to beggars in the street. He has more charity
than anyone else on the planet at this time. The Lord God of Israel is no
respector of persons, as ye children of men are.
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don m
(in message
<Aa9cb.151019$0v4.11...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>):
> Excuse me, Art Bulla gives money to Negroes when requested, I've seen him do
> it on two different occasions to beggars in the street. He has more charity
> than anyone else on the planet at this time. The Lord God of Israel is no
> respector of persons, as ye children of men are.
LOL.
What's really funny is that it was YOUR money.
What a crackpot.
--
Cheers,
don marchant
dangerous1.com
I was only joking.... Really
Scott Marquardt
>Excuse me, Art Bulla gives money to Negroes when requested,
Heck, some of his best friends are Negroes.
>I've seen him do
>it on two different occasions to beggars in the street. He has more charity
>than anyone else on the planet at this time. The Lord God of Israel is no
>respector of persons, as ye children of men are.
Well heck, Art doesn't respect persons much either:
There are those on arm who have complained because of my speaking
against god damned niggers and queers like yourself, you fool. I revel
in freedom of speech and I love to dance on your head, you gentile
fastidious jerk.
I have absolutely no charity towards my enemies....
The Lord says the only way for you, Zoellner, to be forgiven for your
murders is by the shedding of your own blood according to the law of
blood atonement. I myself, however, do not and never will have charity
for you enough to do it.
I know your kind and hate you with much more fury than you hate
godliness and if up to me you would be put to the sword, but alas it is
not up to me as yet.
The notion that Art has more charity than "anyone else on the planet at
this time" is proven to your satisfaction in that you've seen him "give
money to Negroes when requested," on all of two occasions?
Please.
Do you seriously expect anyone to believe that? Is Art now a veritable
Mother Teresa? Good grief.
>Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
>http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
Still doing the priestcraft thing, eh?
- Scott
Aaron Kim
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"Scott Marquardt" <do...@doot.com> wrote in message
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> Aaron Kim wrote:
> >"Scott Marquardt" wrote:
>
> >> There's something poignant about an encyclopedia salesman in a
declining
> >> market, coming to his end this way. No sales pitch works anymore. You
> >> become desperate. Your impotence in terms of sales fosters fantasies of
> >> power. Eventually you convince yourself that God's on your side. You
begin
> >> to identify your frustrations with his. Finally you go over the edge
and
> >> start selling your delusions. There are few buyers. But all you need is
> >> one.
> >
> >More crazy conjecturing and slanders. Sounds like you must work for the
NY Times.
>
> I realize that's all nonsense -- the problem is that you guys don't
realize
> how nonsensical your rants are.
>
> >It seems like true prophets of the Lord are only considered genuine once
> >they're dead.
>
> And false prophets are considered false while they're alive. Your point
> would be?
But the point is that the prophets of Israel's God are shunned, mocked and
cast out but there are many false ones out there who are accepted. Look at
the millions of follower that these impostors like "Rev." Moon, Bahai, Billy
Graham,all the other evangelists have. Where is there authority? Were they
baptized and ordained by a legal administrator? Where is their Melchizedek
Priesthood? There are thousands of people who write books on life and
philosophies who point to themselves as sources of light like that Dr. Phil
who appears on Oprah and they have millions of followers. They will follow
these but they will reject and persecute the true ones as has been the case
with Art Bulla. It's the blind leading the blind into destruction.
37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with
the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute,
afflicted, tormented;
38 (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in
mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.
(New Testament | Hebrews 11:37 - 38)
Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Four 1839-42 Pg.205
The world always mistook false prophets for true ones, and those that were
sent of God, they considered to be false prophets and hence they killed,
stoned, punished and imprisoned the true prophets, and these had to hide
themselves "in deserts and dens, and caves of the earth," and though the
most honorable men of the earth, they banished them from their society as
vagabonds, whilst they cherished, honored and supported knaves, vagabonds,
hypocrites, impostors, and the basest of men.
> >But then if you then get hundreds of years of tradition
> >establishing them as prophets like Jesus for example or more recently
> >Joseph Smith, then everyone accepts them.
>
> "Everyone accepts" Joseph Smith?
I'm talking about the cultural Utah Mormons and others like them.
> >But isn't a true sign of a true
> >believer is someone who is always willing to receive more revelations
from
> >God than just thoughtlessly following traditions ?
>
> Sure. But isn't it a sign of credulity to follow a ranting lunatic as if
> his rejection by others was proof of his authenticity?
We have given you testimonies and scriptural proof which you and others of
your kind never do because you know you have no foot to support your words
but your ignorant wicked beliefs.
So you're an atheist? That makes sense.
> Think of it this way. If someone doesn't believe we went to the moon, it's
> no good telling them the reason they laugh at the astronaut giving a talk
> at their college is because they're intimidated by someone who's actually
> walked on the moon.
>
> Do you understand this?
>
> >Art Bulla I declare by REVELATION from the HOLY SPIRIT
>
> So? Lots of people you disagree with declare things by the Holy Spirit.
Why
> should anyone believe *your* story about what the Holy Spirit says?
These others have no authority as Art has. They can be argued against and
defeated. No one has disproved Art, but only try to shout him down with
insults.
> That wasn't a rhetorical question, Aaron. What compelling reasons can you
> offer for why anyone should believe you, and not others?
How do you know Jesus Christ is true? How do you know the Bible is true?
Most people will say it's because their parents and society has told them
so. They believe in traditions. But the scriptures say in order to have a
true testimony, one must get revelations which is the Holy Spirit. In fact I
feel the Spirit even as I type these words. I don't say that to brag but to
let you and others know how wonderful it is, the spirit of revelation.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that
he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth
him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and
shall be in you.
(New Testament | John 14:16 - 17)
45 And this is not all. Do ye not suppose that I know of these things
myself? Behold, I testify unto you that I do know that these things whereof
I have spoken are true. And how do ye suppose that I know of their surety?
46 Behold, I say unto you they are made known unto me by the Holy Spirit of
God. Behold, I have fasted and prayed many days that I might know these
things of myself. And now I do know of myself that they are true; for the
Lord God hath made them manifest unto me by his Holy Spirit; and this is the
spirit of revelation which is in me.
(Book of Mormon | Alma 5:45 - 46)
Discourses of Brigham Young, Pg.35
No person can receive a knowledge of this work, except by the power of
revelation. 8:315.
If one is earnest in seeking the Lord's will., he or she must humble
themselves and pray to the Lord about Art Bulla's calling, if he is the One
Mighty and Strong as prophesied in Isaiah 28 and D&C sect.85. They will get
a testimony as Jong and I have.
> >that he is a true prophet of the Lord. He is the one who has been sent
> >forth in these latter days to gather Zion.
>
> So where's Zion, Aaron? How long has he been gathering?
How many did Noah gather when the floods hit? Just seven others besides
himself. What about Sodom and Gomorrah before it was destroyed by fire ?
Just Lot, his wife and two daughters. How many believed Lehi when he
preached that Babylon would destroy Israel, just his family and one other,
Ishamael's family. So in many examples in the past we see that when the
Gospel is preached to a wicked generation, unfortunately few will hearken
and believe. When Art was broadcasting on talk radio in Utah during the
80's, he had a huge audience. Zion will eventually be built in
Independence, Missouri.
28 And when the times of the Gentiles is come in, a light shall break forth
among them that sit in darkness, and it shall be the fulness of my gospel;
29 But they receive it not; for they perceive not the light, and they turn
their hearts from me because of the precepts of men.
30 And in that generation shall the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 45:28 - 30)
4 Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought,
and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the LORD, and my work with my
God.
5 śAnd now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb to be his servant,
to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be
glorious in the eyes of the LORD, and my God shall be my strength.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 49:4 - 5)
> >Art Bulla is a literal descendant of Jesus Christ
>
> Art Bulla is a fruitcake nonpareil. He could rejoin the ranks of humanity
> and offer his insights as opinions to be considered among peers in the
> human race at any time. He has chosen to be a total lunatic instead.
> Aaron, wise up.
Aaron
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www.artbulla.com
> - Scott
Scott Marquardt
>But the point is that the prophets of Israel's God are shunned, mocked and
>cast out but there are many false ones out there who are accepted. Look at
>the millions of follower that these impostors like "Rev." Moon, Bahai, Billy
>Graham,all the other evangelists have. Where is there authority? Were they
>baptized and ordained by a legal administrator? Where is their Melchizedek
>Priesthood?
As a fundamentalist Mormon, you have two strikes against you.
First, you've deviated from orthodox Christianity.
Secondly, you've deviated from that deviation (you reject SLC).
If Art's a nut case, I'd say that's strike three.
>There are thousands of people who write books on life and
>philosophies who point to themselves as sources of light like that Dr. Phil
>who appears on Oprah and they have millions of followers. They will follow
>these but they will reject and persecute the true ones as has been the case
>with Art Bulla. It's the blind leading the blind into destruction.
It's not evident to anyone that Art's anything but a nut. The issue here is
that you guys need to consider that possibility. You haven't. If you never
do, the remainder of your life is going to be a downhill spiral into the
chaos of the Bulla mind.
>> "Everyone accepts" Joseph Smith?
>
>I'm talking about the cultural Utah Mormons and others like them.
And you think LdS who are moving, culturally speaking, in the direction of
North American evangelicalism are going to attend to Art's wacko nonsense?
>> Sure. But isn't it a sign of credulity to follow a ranting lunatic as if
>> his rejection by others was proof of his authenticity?
>
>We have given you testimonies and scriptural proof which you and others of
>your kind never do because you know you have no foot to support your words
>but your ignorant wicked beliefs.
You've given rants that constitute no "proof" at all. You're
misunderstanding what *Art* thinks is proof, with what proof and
demonstration really means. You guys are polemically impotent. You can't
even foist a bad argument, because you're not doing arguments at all.
You're doing boilerplate paste of texts that aren't even generally relevant
to what you claim to be proving.
>> >Art Bulla I declare by REVELATION from the HOLY SPIRIT
>>
>> So? Lots of people you disagree with declare things by the Holy Spirit. Why
>> should anyone believe *your* story about what the Holy Spirit says?
>These others have no authority as Art has.
That's your *assertion*, just as others might assert that they have
authority and you don't. Why do you bother telling me the above? I
obviously *know* you think Art has authority, and others don't. But you
seem to think that just saying so, or citing texts whose irrelevance to the
question you seem oblivious to, is sufficient to induce belief in honest
listeners. It's not. You make the error of supposing that what's obvious to
you guys should be at least suggestive to others.
The issue is that Art is truly a nut case, so what he thinks is so clear
*never will* even suggestive to others.
Get used to it Aaron. Art has nothing to do with gathering Zion, and
someday if you don't wise up you're going to blame God for wasting your
years -- all because you identified Art's voice with God's own. All that
irony.
>They can be argued against and
>defeated. No one has disproved Art, but only try to shout him down with
>insults.
Aaron, why did Art claim that "the Lord" said that "pending moderation" of
this newsgroup was an attempt to shut him up?
No one can disprove Art to you guys, because you never address objections.
You just paste in more boilerplate nonsense. You put your hands over your
eyes and tap Ctrl-V as fast as you can.
>> That wasn't a rhetorical question, Aaron. What compelling reasons can you
>> offer for why anyone should believe you, and not others?
>How do you know Jesus Christ is true? How do you know the Bible is true?
>Most people will say it's because their parents and society has told them
>so. They believe in traditions. But the scriptures say in order to have a
>true testimony, one must get revelations which is the Holy Spirit. In fact I
>feel the Spirit even as I type these words. I don't say that to brag but to
>let you and others know how wonderful it is, the spirit of revelation.
Lots of people believe they "feel" the Spirit, Aaron. It's something only
you can believe. What you feel has no bearing on whether what you have to
say is credible. If you should be credible because you say you feel the
Spirit, then everyone who claims they feel the Spirit should be just as
credible -- which, when considering the variant testimonies this raises (in
other words, make it a categorical imperative and cull the rants from all
the nuts), reduces to no credibility for anyone at all.
Get a critical epistemology, Aaron.
>If one is earnest in seeking the Lord's will., he or she must humble
>themselves and pray to the Lord about Art Bulla's calling, if he is the One
>Mighty and Strong as prophesied in Isaiah 28 and D&C sect.85. They will get
>a testimony as Jong and I have.
LOL
No, Aaron, they must not. There's no compelling reason for someone who's
earnest to pay any attention to Art at all. This is what you guys seem to
think, but it's not true. Just because Art rants, does not mean anyone need
attend to him. Sincere and earnest seekers of God may happily shun Art.
Nothing recommends considering him. He's twice departed from the path of
Christian truth -- thrice departed, if it's also true that he's departed
from his mind.
Testimonies are a dime a dozen, Aaron. Everyone in every sect has them.
They're important *within* sects; what you guys don't understand is how
irrelevant they are outside the sect.
>> >that he is a true prophet of the Lord. He is the one who has been sent
>> >forth in these latter days to gather Zion.
>>
>> So where's Zion, Aaron? How long has he been gathering?
> How many did Noah gather when the floods hit? Just seven others besides
>himself. What about Sodom and Gomorrah before it was destroyed by fire ?
>Just Lot, his wife and two daughters. How many believed Lehi when he
>preached that Babylon would destroy Israel, just his family and one other,
>Ishamael's family. So in many examples in the past we see that when the
>Gospel is preached to a wicked generation, unfortunately few will hearken
>and believe. When Art was broadcasting on talk radio in Utah during the
>80's, he had a huge audience.
Good grief, then that explains why he's widely celebrated as a nut case.
Everyone got to hear how crazy he is.
>> Art Bulla is a fruitcake nonpareil. He could rejoin the ranks of humanity
>> and offer his insights as opinions to be considered among peers in the
>> human race at any time. He has chosen to be a total lunatic instead.
> > Aaron, wise up.
- Scott
€ R.L. Measures
abs...@pipeline.com wrote:
> >> When anyone can teach me to levitate, or to move objects
> >> with my mind, then and only then, will I consider listening
> >> to the message they might have to tell me about being
> >> Mighty and Strong.
>
>
> >7 And he that seeketh signs shall see signs, but not unto salvation.
>
> I've never seen levitation, whether unto salvation or not.
> If I do some day, then I might pay attention. Until then I've
> been involved in way too many gatherings, and heard the
> sermons of way too many "One Mighty and Strongs" to
> care to be involved in that any more... until someone shows
> up that is actually making progress on purifying and
> cleansing the church.
>
> There's a lot of prophets willing to prophecy. Few if
> any that actually demonstrate any power from God.
>
> >Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
> >http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
>
> Selling religion? Preaching to get gain? How sad.
>
>
€ 'Tis how some folks make a living.
--
Rich, AG6K, 805-386-3734
€ R.L. Measures
RwEaMs...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Aaron Kim wrote:
>
> >But the point is that the prophets of Israel's God are shunned, mocked and
> >cast out but there are many false ones out there who are accepted. Look at
> >the millions of follower that these impostors like "Rev." Moon, Bahai, Billy
> >Graham,all the other evangelists have. Where is there authority? Were they
> >baptized and ordained by a legal administrator? Where is their Melchizedek
> >Priesthood?
>
> As a fundamentalist Mormon, you have two strikes against you.
>
> First, you've deviated from orthodox Christianity.
>
> Secondly, you've deviated from that deviation (you reject SLC).
>
> If Art's a nut case, ...
*** If he's not, then we are, Scott.
--
Rich, AG6K, 805-386-3734
Scott Marquardt
That is so absolutely true. There's definitely no middle ground.
- Scott
Art Bulla
Cardinals, Trinity, Virgin Mary, infant baptism, Vestal Virgin Pagan
celibacy doctrine, pagan holidays, holy water, burning incense, Inquisition,
Archbishop of Canterbury, ad nauseum, and who does not comprehend that it is
manmade is a fool. Scott deviates from Catholocism and calls himslef
Protestant, and is a hypocrit, and has three legitimate strikes against him,
for I am a righteous judge, and Scott is a mere knee-jerk reactionary with
an axe to grind (persecution of Joseph Smith, and now myself). The word
Trinity is nowhere in the Bible, God does not speak to them, therefore any
right thinking person will decry Scott for what he is, a blind, evil,
sectarian fool.
"Aaron Kim" <aa...@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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Scott Marquardt
>Anyone who believes the bullshit call Christianity with their Popes,
>Cardinals, Trinity, Virgin Mary, infant baptism, Vestal Virgin Pagan
>celibacy doctrine, pagan holidays, holy water, burning incense, Inquisition,
>Archbishop of Canterbury, ad nauseum, and who does not comprehend that it is
>manmade is a fool.
Very well. Well over a billion people are fools. The three people who find
you credible are geniuses.
>Scott deviates from Catholocism and calls himslef
>Protestant, and is a hypocrit, and has three legitimate strikes against him,
>for I am a righteous judge, and Scott is a mere knee-jerk reactionary with
>an axe to grind (persecution of Joseph Smith, and now myself). The word
>Trinity is nowhere in the Bible, God does not speak to them, therefore any
>right thinking person will decry Scott for what he is, a blind, evil,
>sectarian fool.
Why is it an axe to grind to expect a prophet to make good on his claims,
Art? You still haven't explained what you meant when you said that "the
Lord" told you about moderation on ARM being an attempt to shut you up.
Whether I have an axe to grind doesn't matter. That's just an apostate who
you think is nuts. But your own claims, Art, you claim are of paramount
importance to humanity -- yet you're incapable of defending your gaffes.
You just resort to invective.
This from the guy who says he'll debate anyone. Still can't explain
something as simple as his error in attributing impossible words to the
Lord.
- Scott
€ R.L. Measures
RwEaMs...@hotmail.com wrote:
€€€ Agreed. // What are the chances that Art has MPD, and that one of
the personalities is 'Jong'?
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Forwhatitsworth
"? R.L. Measures" <2...@vc.net> wrote in message
news:2-2509031...@66-42-106-178.lsan.npni.net...
> >
> > >In article <9qu3nvkhvebp9j4eg...@4ax.com>,
> > >RwEaMs...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > >> Aaron Kim wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >But the point is that the prophets of Israel's God are shunned,
mocked and
> > >> >cast out but there are many false ones out there who are accepted.
Look at
> > >> >the millions of follower that these impostors like "Rev." Moon,
> Bahai, Billy
> > >> >Graham,all the other evangelists have. Where is there authority?
Were they
> > >> >baptized and ordained by a legal administrator? Where is their
Melchizedek
> > >> >Priesthood?
> > >>
> > >> As a fundamentalist Mormon, you have two strikes against you.
> > >>
> > >> First, you've deviated from orthodox Christianity.
> > >>
> > >> Secondly, you've deviated from that deviation (you reject SLC).
> > >>
> > >> If Art's a nut case, ...
> > >
> > >*** If he's not, then we are, Scott.
> >
> > That is so absolutely true. There's definitely no middle ground.
>
> the personalities is 'Jong'?
I have postulated that for a long time. I remain highly suspicious that
both Aaron and Jong are mere figments of Art's diseased mind.
It would make sense, if there is any sense to be had anywhere near Art.
Mark
fwiw
>
> --
> Rich, AG6K, 805-386-3734
Jong Kim
> Art Bulla wrote:
>
> >Anyone who believes the bullshit call Christianity with their Popes,
> >Cardinals, Trinity, Virgin Mary, infant baptism, Vestal Virgin Pagan
> >celibacy doctrine, pagan holidays, holy water, burning incense,
Inquisition,
> >Archbishop of Canterbury, ad nauseum, and who does not comprehend that it
is
> >manmade is a fool.
>
> Very well. Well over a billion people are fools. The three people who find
> you credible are geniuses.
1 O LORD our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth! who hast
set thy glory above the heavens.
2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength
because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the
avenger.
(Old Testament | Psalms 8:1 - 2)
>
> >Scott deviates from Catholocism and calls himslef
> >Protestant, and is a hypocrit, and has three legitimate strikes against
him,
> >for I am a righteous judge, and Scott is a mere knee-jerk reactionary
with
> >an axe to grind (persecution of Joseph Smith, and now myself). The word
> >Trinity is nowhere in the Bible, God does not speak to them, therefore
any
> >right thinking person will decry Scott for what he is, a blind, evil,
> >sectarian fool.
>
> Why is it an axe to grind to expect a prophet to make good on his claims,
> Art? You still haven't explained what you meant when you said that "the
> Lord" told you about moderation on ARM being an attempt to shut you up.
Let me relate a true story:
A few weeks ago, I was translating into Spanish the following from The
Revelations of Jesus Christ:
5:4 And because of the INTERPOLATIONS of men, this is not had among the
Gentiles, for behold it is his Priesthood which is without beginning of days
nor end of years, saith the Lord, for he wast a man created in mine own
image, and his Father after the flesh was my servant Noah, saith the Lord.
I couldn't find "interpolation" in my Spanish-English dictionary (i.e., an
occurence of "interpolación", nor could I find "interpolation"), so I went
online and searched on the Internet, but still found no instance of this
word, so that while contemplating on this dilemma, the Spirit impressed it
on my heart to find a Spanish word for "meddling", so this is how I
translated verse 4. Less than a month later, I mentioned this to Art while
we were eating (that I did so by a revelation from the Lord), and he said he
nonetheless disagreed because "interpolation" is a word with Latin roots so
"interpolación" should be in the Spanish tongue, so I said I'll do more
investigation, which I did later that day, and searched for more
Spanish-English dictionaries on the Internet, and finally found a site with
"interpolación" (also, later in a bookstore I eventually found thicker
dictionaries with that word). So this is how the Lord led me to properly
translate this portion of his word given through his servant Art Bulla, when
it is that the Lord could have easily given me a revelation to go with
"interpolación", even if I didn't find it in my dictionary nor immediately
online. So the OVERALL INTENT of the Lord was not revealed me when his
Spirit had strongly suggested to make use of a Spanish word for "meddling".
The Lord wanted me to realize that "interpolación" is in fact the correct
translation after going over it with Art, which thing was inadvertent on my
part since I mentioned it to him only in passing while eating, not in order
to consult. The Lord chose to lead me step by step in this way, though he
could easily have given me a direct revelation on "interpolación". So you
must comprehend the overall meaning of the revelation that Art has received
on the upcoming slavery of America, the letters of which you hotly dispute
in the spirit of the accuser, which is the devil.
4 Y por causa de las INTERPOLACIONES de hombres, un conocimiento correcto
no ha sido tenido entre los gentiles, porque he aquí es su sacerdocio que ni
tiene principio de días, ni fin de años, dice el Señor, porque él fue varón
creado a mi imagen, y su padre según la carne fue mi siervo Noé, dice el
Señor.
>
> Whether I have an axe to grind doesn't matter. That's just an apostate who
> you think is nuts. But your own claims, Art, you claim are of paramount
> importance to humanity -- yet you're incapable of defending your gaffes.
> You just resort to invective.
>
> This from the guy who says he'll debate anyone. Still can't explain
> something as simple as his error in attributing impossible words to the
> Lord.
>
> - Scott
The gist of that revelation was this:
"So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain what they consider
a temporary victory in shutting me up, for the COURTS are CORRUPT and the
WICKED are JUSTIFIED by these ATHEIST JUDGES and are thus fearless."
Amazing, in light of corrupt Federal judges unconstitutionally fighting
against Roy Moore in order to keep influencing public institutions to deny
the existence of God and against the recall election in California, hoping
to delay the gubernatorial election until the California Democratic primary
next year to get more Democrat-siding voters to show up for the recall
election, wherein the unjust ruling by these three judges was made just
hours after Art had written the above and also the following in the same
post:
"This black Pharonic power is threatening to take away your liberty for if
these once again who are inspired of the devil, saith the Lord, are allowed
to reign, your speech and your liberty guaranteed by Ephraim, the founding
fathers, who are Ephraim, saith the Lord, Thomas Jefferson, Washington,
Franklin, et al, who manifested the racial characteristic of Ephraim in
fighting for the liberty of all mankind, will be lost, saith the Lord."
I might also add that the Holy Ghost had witnessed to me of the truth of the
corrupt judges part of Art's post, this spiritual evidence had been granted
me at 7:10 pm Pacific, Sep. 16, 2003.
SECTION 72.
Revelation received August 8, 1993, Provo, Utah concerning those who claim
Art Bulla to be a false prophet because of the failure of his prophecy
concerning the outcome of the Persian Gulf War. It is a wicked and
adulterous generation that seeketh for a sign from heaven that they may
believe, saith the Lord.
1 Thus saith the Lord concerning that which is known among men as the
PERSIAN GULF, it is, saith the Lord, that because of the repentance of thy
nation, and the Presidency thereof, even George Bush, as he is known among
men, and also that they, this nation did also begin to return unto me, the
God thereof and did pray and fast as decreed by their President that it is
that I did not suffer them to be BROKEN in the DESERT as prophesied by my
servant Art, and this according to the pattern of them of old, even Ninevah
who did hearken unto my servant Jonah, and did turn from their evil way. And
thus my wrath was turned away from them, and was not Jonah confounded
thereby that in the depth of his soul he did protest unto me, the Lord his
God because of my longsuffering unto the children of men, that I the Lord
God am slow to anger, and not easily provoked? And thus he was wroth that I
destroyed not them of old as I have stayed my wrath concerning thee at this
time, saith the Lord. Therefor saith the Lord, them who call my servant a
false prophet because of these things do it because they are the SERVANTS of
SIN THEMSELVES, and they LAY a SNARE for MY SERVANT in VAIN, for I the Lord
God will justify him at that last day, saith the Lord, when their secret
works and abominations shall be made manifest, even him who is known as
Martin Tanner, and lawyers and false testators and them who commit LIES and
whoredoms as of old. Therefore it is that all who drive and testify against
my servants when they have done none other things than that which I the Lord
God COMMANDED them shall be severed from the ordinances of mine house, saith
the Lord, and shall be cut off from among the people as I the Lord God spake
in that day through the mouth of my servant Moses. For it is, saith the Lord
that they nor their posterity shall right unto the priesthood. Even so.
Amen.
29 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes
of the blind shall see out of obscurity and out of darkness.
30 And the meek also shall increase, and their joy shall be in the Lord, and
the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.
31 For assuredly as the Lord liveth they shall see that the terrible one is
brought to naught, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for
iniquity are cut off;
32 And they that make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him
that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of naught.
33 Therefore, thus saith the Lord, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the
house of Jacob: Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now
wax pale.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 27:29 - 33)
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>"Scott Marquardt" wrote:
>> Very well. Well over a billion people are fools. The three people who find
>> you credible are geniuses.
>1 O LORD our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth! who hast
>set thy glory above the heavens.
>2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength
>because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the
>avenger.
Whokay, Jong -- which emenies and avengers have you guys managed to
"still?" To the contrary, we've heard Art rant about people conspiring to
still *him*.
>> Why is it an axe to grind to expect a prophet to make good on his claims,
>> Art? You still haven't explained what you meant when you said that "the
>> Lord" told you about moderation on ARM being an attempt to shut you up.
>Let me relate a true story:
<snip>
Jong, I'm glad you ended up with a decent translation. It's nice to hear
that you got it right. Unfortunately, the stuff you're taking pains to
translate is wack.
> [...] So you
>must comprehend the overall meaning of the revelation that Art has received
>on the upcoming slavery of America, the letters of which you hotly dispute
>in the spirit of the accuser, which is the devil.
Art specifically claimed that the Lord says that the pending moderation's
purpose is to shut him up. That's a specific claim about something the Lord
is supposed to have said about something we all know isn't real.
Art wasn't working in some difficult language, Jong. What he said was very
clear. The words aren't problematic. It wasn't a complex assertion to
string together.
What you're not understanding is that your mental mentor just appends "the
Lord says" to whatever his agitated brain contrives, and you guys swallow
it whole. Now and then a total gaffe like this comes along, and what I've
learned this time around is that the guy who boldly claims he'll debate
anyone, anytime, anywhere just rants and relies on circumlocution in the
hope that the gaffe will just go away.
I think it would be wise for Art to repent of his gratuitous attribution of
his own thoughts to God, and rejoin the human race.
>> Whether I have an axe to grind doesn't matter. That's just an apostate who
>> you think is nuts. But your own claims, Art, you claim are of paramount
>> importance to humanity -- yet you're incapable of defending your gaffes.
>> You just resort to invective.
>> This from the guy who says he'll debate anyone. Still can't explain
>> something as simple as his error in attributing impossible words to the
>> Lord.
>The gist of that revelation was this:
<snip>
So what, Jong? I'm not arguing with the gist. I'm observing that Art made
an unmistakable claim about something the Lord said about ARM moderation's
purpose being to shut him up. Mr. "I'll argue with anyone, anywhere,
anytime, for I can confound the wise in their own conceits, sayeth the Lord
blah blah blah" hasn't at all defended his claim. All he's done is rant, as
if taking him up on his bold challenge were a sin to high heaven.
In other words, Art's a wimp. He's big talk when he can paste reams of
material from his betters, but when he's forced to compose a paragraph
himself, all that comes through is mindless ranting. In fact, Jong, haven't
you noticed that he depends on your for what little reason may be found
among you guys? You *know* he's incoherent when he's mad. You *know* he
makes a fool of himself. So you do the posting when he's out of control.
>"So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain what they consider
>a temporary victory in shutting me up, for the COURTS are CORRUPT and the
>WICKED are JUSTIFIED by these ATHEIST JUDGES and are thus fearless."
>
>Amazing, in light of corrupt Federal judges unconstitutionally fighting
>against Roy Moore in order to keep influencing public institutions to deny
>the existence of God and against the recall election in California, hoping
>to delay the gubernatorial election until the California Democratic primary
>next year to get more Democrat-siding voters to show up for the recall
>election, wherein the unjust ruling by these three judges was made just
>hours after Art had written the above and also the following in the same
>post:
And how was this something these judges *considered a temporary victory in
shutting [Art] up*, Jong? Do you hear what these words mean?
The grammar, Jong, would have it that these judges consider what they did
to be a temporary victory in shutting up Art Bulla. Good grief, what kind
of delusions of grandeur are we talking about, Jong? Do you seriously think
these judges even know who Art Bulla is, much less tailor their decisions
in order to gain "a temporary victory in shutting [Art] up?"
You're getting as wack as Art, Jong, if you can't even see that the stuff
you think vindicates Art's gaffe not only isn't relevant, it's just digging
you a deeper hole.
Crawl out of the hole, Jong.
>Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
>http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
Still not mentioning in your sig that you also offer it freely, eh?
Priestcrafter.
- Scott
Goner
(in message <kaNcb.158857$3o3.11...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>):
> Let me relate a true story:
>
> A few weeks ago, I was translating into Spanish the following from The
> Revelations of Jesus Christ:
You could possibly find someone who spoke spanish in Mexico.
that was probably the All Time Most Boring Thing that has ever been posted
here. And incoherent, too.
(snip)
> The gist of that revelation was this:
>
> "So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain what they consider
> a temporary victory in shutting me up, for the COURTS are CORRUPT and the
> WICKED are JUSTIFIED by these ATHEIST JUDGES and are thus fearless."
(snip more boring excuses)
The "gist" of that revelation was that Art pretended that he spoke with the
"lord" and the "lord" told him the upcoming moderation was an attempt to shut
up Art. Of course, there is no upcoming moderation, so either your "lord" is
stupid or Art lied about receiving that "revelation".
It's very simple, Jong. Art is a liar and a fraud.
--
Cheers,
don marchant
dangerous1.com
I was only joking..... Really
Jong Kim
> Jong Kim wrote:
> >"Scott Marquardt" wrote:
> >> Art Bulla wrote:
>
> >> Very well. Well over a billion people are fools. The three people who
find
> >> you credible are geniuses.
>
> >1 O LORD our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth! who hast
> >set thy glory above the heavens.
> >2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength
> >because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the
> >avenger.
Why did you remove the source of this scripture, i.e. the Book of Psalms?
>
> Whokay, Jong -- which emenies and avengers have you guys managed to
> "still?" To the contrary, we've heard Art rant about people conspiring to
> still *him*.
4 Let them now that fear the LORD say, that his mercy [endureth] for ever.
5 I called upon the LORD in distress: the LORD answered me, [and set me] in
a large place.
6 The LORD [is] on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?
7 The LORD taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see [my
desire] upon them that hate me.
8 [It is] better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
9 [It is] better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.
10 All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD will I
destroy them.
11 They compassed me about; yea, they compassed me about: but in the name of
the LORD I will destroy them.
12 They COMPASSED ME about like BEES; they are quenched as the fire of
thorns: for in the name of the LORD I will destroy them.
13 Thou hast thrust sore at me that I might fall: but the LORD helped me.
14 The LORD [is] my strength and song, and is become my salvation.
15 The voice of rejoicing and salvation [is] in the tabernacles of the
righteous: the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.
16 The right hand of the LORD is exalted: the right hand of the LORD doeth
valiantly.
17 I shall not die, but live, and declare the works of the LORD.
18 The LORD hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto
death.
19 Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, [and] I will
praise the LORD:
20 This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter.
21 I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.
22 The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the
corner.
23 This is the LORD's doing; it [is] marvellous in our eyes.
(Old Testament | Psalms 118:4 - 23)
You really are become a devil. I am sorry that you have become one, but I'm
just glad I'm not you. Better that you be a devil than me. I know that you
are a devil and that the Lord has snared you and thereby PROVEN that you do
watch for iniquity where there is none, for Satan your father is the accuser
of the brethren.
Wimp? How can a wimp endure as the following for most of his adult life?
"They compassed me about; yea, they compassed me about: but in the name of
the LORD I will destroy them. They COMPASSED ME about like BEES; they are
quenched as the fire of thorns: for in the name of the LORD I will destroy
them. Thou hast thrust sore at me that I might fall: but the LORD helped
me." Psalms 118:11 - 13
But on the other hand, your devilish cunning shows that you are the wimp of
an evil nature.
This is out of control? Any honest person would admit this is a true
prophecy of utter loss of freedom in the United States in the not too
distant future, not any single person but the whole society even on the
Internet (and besides all this, the Mormon Church last fall did try to shut
down artbulla.com but we finally prevailed after something like 5 months,
but they gave up finally because even the letter of the specific provisions
of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act bolstered our cause and not theirs --
fair use provision. So we've already had a taste of the evil that's coming.
If we were really fools as you say, why would the well-endowed Mormon
Church, a type and pattern of the wealthy Catholic Church, bother with such
an "idiotic fringe group" as us?):
"I prophesy that nothing but PC speech will be allowed on arm as a result
of the wicked who are cut to the heart complaining incessantly, and the
weak-kneed cave in and compromise as they have always done when confronted
by persecution. PC (politically correct speech) which is nothing more than
the fascism of the devil and the godless left is taking over the church,
i.c. feminists, leftist negros, homosexuals, atheists, murderers, sorcerers,
adulterers, liars, etc. The Lord says that these who have complained are the
vilest of men and are are those devoid of truth who have nothing in their
arsenal but slander and persecution, since they are not furnished with the
word of God, but slander, name-calling and persecution in the form of PC
censorship. The truth they consider defamatory because it is an arrow to
their corrupt hearts, and they fear and tremble because of it. No vampire
in horror films could frear a crucifix more than the so-called "liberals"
who are the most intolerant of mankind, saith the Lord. The Lord says this
imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as I
brandish it like a sword. But Parley P. Pratt said "You may as well shut up
a fire in a pile of wood chips than shut up a man who has the testimony of
Jesus (the spirit of prophecy). When Joseph was Prime Minister of Pharoah,
the Hyskos (who invented the chariot, and other high tech for that time) who
were white, descendants of Shem, and cousins of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob,
(semitic means Shemitic, descendants of Shem or Melchizedec). But at the
time of Moses the Hyskos of Egypt were replaced by a black Pharoah who
enslaved the Hebrews (Eber, the son of Shem, Ebrews, means descendants of
Eber). This black Pharonic power is threatening to take away your liberty
for if these once again who are inspired of the devil, saith the Lord, are
allowed to reign, your speech and your liberty guaranteed by Ephraim, the
founding fathers, who are Ephraim, saith the Lord, Thomas Jefferson,
Washington, Franklin, et al, who manifested the racial characteristic of
Ephraim in fighting for the liberty of all mankind, will be lost, saith the
Lord. So sit still and do nothing and the devil will put you in a worse
slavery than black Pharoah did to Israel for 400 years, turning nature on
its head. For nature and nature's God decreed that Israel shall rule and
that Cainan (son of Ham) shall be his servant (see Genesis 9). But you are
only ripening for destruction when the fullness of the wrath of the Almighty
falls upon your heads, and you cannot escape his wrath, for the devil whom
you serve, ye politically correct, cannot resurrect anyone. So the meek
shall inherit the earth for all things which are of man shall be shaken and
thrown down. So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain what
they consider a temporary victory in shutting me up, for the courts are
corrupt and the wicked are justified by these atheist judges and are thus
fearless. But I also prophesy that I will shine brighter than the sun at
noonday, and the honest in heart will remember what is said, for God will
fight my battles for me."
SECTION 72.
>
> >"So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain what they
consider
> >a temporary victory in shutting me up, for the COURTS are CORRUPT and the
> >WICKED are JUSTIFIED by these ATHEIST JUDGES and are thus fearless."
> >
> >Amazing, in light of corrupt Federal judges unconstitutionally fighting
> >against Roy Moore in order to keep influencing public institutions to
deny
> >the existence of God and against the recall election in California,
hoping
> >to delay the gubernatorial election until the California Democratic
primary
> >next year to get more Democrat-siding voters to show up for the recall
> >election, wherein the unjust ruling by these three judges was made just
> >hours after Art had written the above and also the following in the same
> >post:
>
> And how was this something these judges *considered a temporary victory in
> shutting [Art] up*, Jong? Do you hear what these words mean?
>
> The grammar, Jong, would have it that these judges consider what they did
> to be a temporary victory in shutting up Art Bulla. Good grief, what kind
> of delusions of grandeur are we talking about, Jong? Do you seriously
think
> these judges even know who Art Bulla is, much less tailor their decisions
> in order to gain "a temporary victory in shutting [Art] up?"
Either you can't read or you are lying again, and I think it's the latter
mostly: that, what Art wrote by the power of God did not say or imply that
any Federal judges or any judge (of government at any level) for that matter
would curtail his free speech on the Internet, within or without a.r.m. The
true meaning, as any honest spiritual minded person would readily admit, is
that in the not too distant future, it is prophesied that free speech of
ANYONE on even the Internet would come to a halt.
>
> You're getting as wack as Art, Jong, if you can't even see that the stuff
> you think vindicates Art's gaffe not only isn't relevant, it's just
digging
> you a deeper hole.
>
> Crawl out of the hole, Jong.
>
> >Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
> >http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
>
> Still not mentioning in your sig that you also offer it freely, eh?
>
> Priestcrafter.
>
> - Scott
Cost of the book includes paper and printing costs, and the free Internet
download of pdf files doesn't include actual paper. You are lying again, for
besides the publishing costs, the laborer in Zion is worthy of his hire, as
it is written.
You think you are being funny and witty, etc. being at ease in your present
comfort, but if you do not speedily repent, the joke will be on you, for the
devil will utterly have you in his grasp. And only then will you know that
the Lord Jesus is God, and that Art Bulla is the Lord's mighty and strong
one to the salvation of Ephraim. I know that there is a devil and in fact
many of them, these fallen spirits, just as I know that there are the
Almighty Eloheim, and that I better get on the side of the latter than the
former. By PERSONAL experiences with both sides of this great conflict.
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Goner
(in message <JVPcb.159255$3o3.11...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>):
> This is out of control? Any honest person would admit this is a true
> prophecy of utter loss of freedom in the United States in the not too
> distant future, not any single person but the whole society even on the
> Internet (and besides all this, the Mormon Church last fall did try to shut
> down artbulla.com but we finally prevailed after something like 5 months,
> but they gave up finally because even the letter of the specific provisions
> of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act bolstered our cause and not theirs --
> fair use provision. So we've already had a taste of the evil that's coming.
> If we were really fools as you say, why would the well-endowed Mormon
> Church, a type and pattern of the wealthy Catholic Church, bother with such
> an "idiotic fringe group" as us?):
Copyright abuse, dipshit. They had to protect their property that you stole
from them.
(snip boring crap)
>The Lord says this
> imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as I
> brandish it like a sword.
What a liar. "The Lord says", LOL
"Wo unto the liar, for he shall be thrust down to hell" You're screwed.
Scott Marquardt
>"Scott Marquardt" <do...@doot.com> wrote in message
>> Jong Kim wrote:
>> >"Scott Marquardt" wrote:
>> >> Art Bulla wrote:
>>
>> >> Very well. Well over a billion people are fools. The three people who
>find
>> >> you credible are geniuses.
>>
>> >1 O LORD our Lord, how excellent [is] thy name in all the earth! who hast
>> >set thy glory above the heavens.
>> >2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength
>> >because of thine enemies, that thou mightest still the enemy and the
>> >avenger.
>
>Why did you remove the source of this scripture, i.e. the Book of Psalms?
Man, you guys are sure anal retentive. Either that or paranoid about the
most innocuous things.
Heck, Jong, it's because I feared the reference more than the content. You
confounded me, and I was scared.
>> Whokay, Jong -- which emenies and avengers have you guys managed to
>> "still?" To the contrary, we've heard Art rant about people conspiring to
>> still *him*.
<snip bizarre choices of texts that have nothing to do with the question>
>> >The gist of that revelation was this:
>> <snip>
>> So what, Jong? I'm not arguing with the gist. I'm observing that Art made
>> an unmistakable claim about something the Lord said about ARM moderation's
>> purpose being to shut him up. Mr. "I'll argue with anyone, anywhere,
>> anytime, for I can confound the wise in their own conceits, sayeth the Lord
>> blah blah blah" hasn't at all defended his claim. All he's done is rant, as
>> if taking him up on his bold challenge were a sin to high heaven.
>> In other words, Art's a wimp. He's big talk when he can paste reams of
>> material from his betters, but when he's forced to compose a paragraph
>> himself, all that comes through is mindless ranting. In fact, Jong, haven't
>> you noticed that he depends on your for what little reason may be found
>> among you guys? You *know* he's incoherent when he's mad. You *know* he
>> makes a fool of himself. So you do the posting when he's out of control.
>You really are become a devil. I am sorry that you have become one, but I'm
>just glad I'm not you. Better that you be a devil than me. I know that you
>are a devil and that the Lord has snared you and thereby PROVEN that you do
>watch for iniquity where there is none, for Satan your father is the accuser
>of the brethren.
Jong, is it or is it not true that Art -- and you're learning well too,
BTW, if your posts are any indication -- posts reams of material that's not
his own -- just pasting it in as if it answers anything he's replying to?
Fact is, whenever he comes up with anything original it's wack, so he uses
material from his betters in a poor attempt to bolster his credibility. But
all it does is make him look stupid.
Hey, maybe I infer amiss. But the weird front you guys present sure doesn't
help discourage the imagination.
>Wimp? How can a wimp endure as the following for most of his adult life?
>"They compassed me about; yea, they compassed me about:
That's his demons he's talking about.
>but in the name of the LORD I will destroy them.
OK, so when is that going to happen?
>They COMPASSED ME about like BEES; they are
>quenched as the fire of thorns: for in the name of the LORD I will destroy
>them. Thou hast thrust sore at me that I might fall: but the LORD helped
>me." Psalms 118:11 - 13
This sure fit David, it certainly doesn't fit Art.
>But on the other hand, your devilish cunning shows that you are the wimp of
>an evil nature.
Well, when Art alluded to Smith kicking people's asses in Nauvoo
(apparently Art's idea of what turns out to be a pretty impotent-sounding
threat), I offered to meet him in Nauvoo and buy him a soda pop, and we
could talk about whatever he wanted.
So far, the big wimp hasn't taken me up on it.
However, I've never been called "cunning" before. Is this my 15 minutes?
>This is out of control? Any honest person would admit this is a true
>prophecy of utter loss of freedom in the United States in the not too
>distant future,
LOL!
Any honest person!
Ergo, everyone is dishonest (because no one admits this is any such
prophecy).
So it's not Art who's off his rocker, it's everyone else who's dishonest.
There go those delusions of grandeur again.
>not any single person but the whole society even on the
>Internet (and besides all this, the Mormon Church last fall did try to shut
>down artbulla.com but we finally prevailed after something like 5 months,
>but they gave up finally because even the letter of the specific provisions
>of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act bolstered our cause and not theirs --
>fair use provision. So we've already had a taste of the evil that's coming.
>If we were really fools as you say, why would the well-endowed Mormon
>Church, a type and pattern of the wealthy Catholic Church, bother with such
>an "idiotic fringe group" as us?):
Maybe because they're worried that people who know little of Mormonism will
become privy to your rants and think that if this is what Mormonism is
like, they won't want to have anything to do with Mormonism?
>"I prophesy that nothing but PC speech will be allowed on arm as a result
>of the wicked who are cut to the heart complaining incessantly, and the
>weak-kneed cave in and compromise as they have always done when confronted
>by persecution. PC (politically correct speech) which is nothing more than
>the fascism of the devil and the godless left is taking over the church,
>i.c. feminists, leftist negros, homosexuals, atheists, murderers, sorcerers,
>adulterers, liars, etc. The Lord says that these who have complained are the
>vilest of men and are are those devoid of truth who have nothing in their
>arsenal but slander and persecution, since they are not furnished with the
>word of God, but slander, name-calling and persecution in the form of PC
>censorship. The truth they consider defamatory because it is an arrow to
>their corrupt hearts, and they fear and tremble because of it. No vampire
>in horror films could frear a crucifix more than the so-called "liberals"
>who are the most intolerant of mankind, saith the Lord.
And here it is -- the stupid remark:
>The Lord says this
>imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as I
>brandish it like a sword.
So did the Lord say that or not, Jong? You're still not answering. Are you
as much of a wimp as Art? "One Mighty and Strong" indeed.
<snip more instances of Jong building his Ctrl-V muscles, which will one
day be mighty and strong>
That's not what Art said, Jong. Let's break it down, shall we?
[the politically correct fascists] subject
[will gain] verb
[what they consider to be a temporary victory in shutting me up] predicate
What will they gain? Something they consider to be something --
specifically, something they consider to be a temporary victory in shutting
[Art] up.
So tell me, Jong -- which judges consider the temporary victory Art claims
they've gained, to be an instance of shutting Art up?
>> >Purchase The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
>> >http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
>>
>> Still not mentioning in your sig that you also offer it freely, eh?
>>
>> Priestcrafter.
>>
>> - Scott
>
>Cost of the book includes paper and printing costs, and the free Internet
>download of pdf files doesn't include actual paper. You are lying again, for
>besides the publishing costs, the laborer in Zion is worthy of his hire, as
>it is written.
In that case, someone ought to put the lash to Art's back. But no one's
hired him, so there's no one to give him his due drubbing.
>You think you are being funny and witty, etc. being at ease in your present
>comfort, but if you do not speedily repent, the joke will be on you, for the
>devil will utterly have you in his grasp. And only then will you know that
>the Lord Jesus is God,
That I know.
>and that Art Bulla is the Lord's mighty and strong
>one to the salvation of Ephraim.
Well, it'll have to wait, as you say, because there's certainly no
indication of Art being anything but a jackass. Far from being "One Mighty
and Strong," he's afraid to even meet for a soda pop. I suppose he's
worried I'll toss it in his face or something.
- Scott
€ R.L. Measures
<forwhat...@fwiw.com> wrote:
*** If this be the case, Aaron and Jong are faithful followers who will
never, ever, desert Art. I encountered a case of such on a radio
discussion group. A outspoken proponent of "fractal antennas" (a compact
design) claimed that fractal radio antennas could perform as well as large
antennas. Several radio antenna experts agreed. It turned out that all
of these experts, as well as the proponent himself , just happened to be
using the same computer. // My guess is that Art had a somewhat less
than delightsome childhood, and that he constructed imaginary people to
share in the grief.
> It would make sense, if there is any sense to be had anywhere near Art.
>
> Mark
> fwiw
>
> >
> > --
> > Rich, AG6K, 805-386-3734
--
Rich, AG6K, 805-386-3734
Art Bulla
that prophecy is conditional and many times the prophecy is altered by the
persons, people, etc, turning from their evil way, the chief example being
Jonah who prophesied the destruction of Ninevah. Shining a light on the
wicked designs of men often has the effect of altering the result
prophesied. Prophecy is conditonal, saith the Lord, on the repentance and
obedience of men as they respond to the warning or as they work
righteousness before the Lord and is not meant as a sign to the wicked, but
for a comfort to those who already believe. It is a wicked and adulterous
generation that seeketh for a sign, saith the Lord. The Lord reserves the
right to change his mind regarding future events just as you do, as the
agency of men is introduces a randomness, which agency is respected by God.
Therefore circumstances which held at the beginning of the prophecy may
change due to the reasons outlined above. These things are evident to the
student of scripture, but not understood by the wicked and rebellious.
"Art Bulla" <a...@artbulla.com> wrote in message
news:ekl9b.12067$ok3.408...@twister2.starband.net...
> I prophesy that nothing but PC speech will be allowed on arm as a result
> of the wicked who are cut to the heart complaining incessantly, and the
> weak-kneed cave in and compromise as they have always done when confronted
> by persecution. PC (politically correct speech) which is nothing more than
> the fascism of the devil and the godless left is taking over the church,
> i.c. feminists, leftist negros, homosexuals, atheists, murderers,
sorcerers,
> adulterers, liars, etc. The Lord says that these who have complained are
the
> vilest of men and are are those devoid of truth who have nothing in their
> arsenal but slander and persecution, since they are not furnished with the
> word of God, but slander, name-calling and persecution in the form of PC
> censorship. The truth they consider defamatory because it is an arrow to
> their corrupt hearts, and they fear and tremble because of it. No vampire
> in horror films could frear a crucifix more than the so-called "liberals"
> who are the most intolerant of mankind, saith the Lord. The Lord says
this
> imposed moderation is an attempt to shut up the truth, and shut me up as I
> thrown down. So I prophesy the politically correct fascists will gain
what
> they consider a temporary victory in shutting me up, for the courts are
> corrupt and the wicked are justified by these atheist judges and are thus
> fearless. But I also prophesy that I will shine brighter than the sun at
> noonday, and the honest in heart will remember what is said, for God will
> fight my battles for me. As proof the devil has inspired you PC crowd
named
> above to fight against Zion I provide the following:
>
> From New Revelation, by Orson Pratt; The Seer; May 1854:
>
> But the moment that God sent angels from heaven to earth, and raised
up
> inspired men, and once more restored the true Christian Church to the
> earth, the devil, with all his combined armies of Catholics and
Protestants,
> (Polygamists, Latter-Day Saints) was enraged. For God to dare restore
the
> religion of the Bible again to the earth, by sending prophets and inspired
> men, by giving visions, and by sending angels, as He did in all other ages
> when His religion was on the earth, was more than the devil could bear
> without making a tremendous exertion to put it down. To undertake to put
it
> down by scripture, reason or argument , was entirely in vain, though
this
> was attempted in some few instances at first, but it always resulted in
the
> most disastrous consequences to the devil's kingdom. The devil soon
found
> that there was not the least shadow of evidence to sustain the Catholic
and
> Protestant imposition against the doctrine of continued revelation. This
> forlorn hope having utterly failed him, his next and most successful
> operation was to ridicule and denounce the doctrine, and lie about it, and
> if possible, to close the eyes and ears, and hearts of the people
> effectually against it. But even in this thing he will be defeated;
though
> he may for a time triumph, yet the refuge of lies shall be swept away, and
> God will show unto the honest in heart, with power and great glory that he
> is the same, yesterday, today and forever, and that he is a God who
delights
> to reveal Himself by revelations , and dreams, and visions, and
prophecies,
> by the ministering of angels, and by the miraculous gifts and power of the
> Holy Ghost. All who deny these things, and do them away, will be cut off
> from among the people, (a prophecy of my advent, the One mighty and
> strong--see Isaiah 28) and be sent down to hell to suffer with the devil
who
> has deceived them, and by whom they have been led captive to reject and
deny
> the gifts of the Holy Ghost and the powers and glory of God's kingdom.
> If this generation are asked to give a reason for rejecting all
> revelation later than John the Revelator's day, their answer is, almost
> universally, "We have enough, and need no more;" and we reply, yes they
have
> enough to send them to hell, unless they will receive more, when God in
> mercy offers it to them. The very Bible which they pretend is enough,
will
> rise up in judgment against apostate Christendom, and condemn them,
be-cause
> in it is taught the doctrine of continued revelation, which they have the
> great wickedness to reject.
> But why is the devil so angry with a church under the guidance of New
> Revelation? Because he knows that a people who live near enough to the
> Lord to receive information from Him, will receive by that means a
knowledge
> of all his cunning plans, and detect the cunning devices by which he has
> blinded the nations of apostate Christendom so long. To have the ancient
> and venerated systems of priestcraft exposed, and the false doctrines,
which
> he has taken so much pains to introduce and maintain for so many
centuries,
> overturned by the restoration of true Christianity again to the earth, is
> calculated to make the hellish hosts and all under their influence, who
> delight in darkness, to tremble with anxiety and through fear of the
> consequences.
> Fear and trembling seize upon the wicked priests, whenever the sound
of
> ancient Christianity, with its revelations, prophecies, visions and the
> gifts and power of the Holy Ghost, approach their neighborhood. Their
craft
> is in danger--they fear for their rotten corrupt forms of religion--they
> fear that the people will get their eyes open to discern the wide
difference
> between the religion of the Bible and their powerless forms invented by
the
> devil and his servants--they fear that their popularity will wane, and
their
> salaries be decreased or entirely fail them. To travel without purse or
> script, as the Latter-Day and Former Day Saints have done, they cannot
> afford to do. And then if they should do so, they would receive no
reward,
> but condemnation for preaching false doctrines among the people.
> If they preach false doctrines they think that they must be well
paid:
> for it is the only reward that they can get, and bye and bye the end comes
> and they are hewn down and cast into the fire: their motto, then is, to
live
> grand while they have the chance, and so long as they can delude the
nations
> with their apostate forms of religion (now we also have false science to
> delude the nations, and does not the devil doubly exult in the conflict
> between false science and false religion, the masses tossed to and fro on
a
> sea of contentious debate between classes of liars?), under the sacred
garb
> of Christianity, they have the prospect of waxing fat on the hard earnings
> of their deluded victims.
> No wonder then that ancient Christianity, taught by the humble servant of
> God, as the Holy Ghost gives him utterance, is like an arrow to the hearts
> of such hypocritical impostors. Oh! how abhorrent and disgusting to a
> humble servant of Christ, and to God, and to all His Holy angels, to see
> Catholic and Protestants ministers enter their richly adorned churches
(now
> we have Cathedrals of Tomorrow, and other such nonsense as Jimmy Swaggert
> and other liars on TV!) and chapels, and there pretend to worship God,
when
> they are as destitute of almost every feature of ancient Christianity as
the
> devil and his angels. The days are not far distant when such base
> hypocrites, and all that will suffer themselves to be deceived by them,
will
> be cast down by devouring fire, that their impositions, and their
> hypocrisies, and their corruptions, and all their filthiness and
> abominations, may cease to come up before the Lord of Hosts.
> Tremble and fear! for if there ever were a generation that had need
to
> tremble and fear, it is the present--Tell about this being an enlightened
> age--an age of gospel light! Never was there an age of greater darkness
> (Brigham Young said it is the common delusion of every generation to
think
> itself more progressive and enlightened than previous ones, and here is
the
> proof, O vain modern man, who art also deluded as others before thee,
saith
> the Lord God of Isaiah) since man was created upon the earth so far as it
> regards the religion of heaven (You ought to behold the present one,
Orson,
> for I am he who was prophesied to come to do battle against false science
> and easily against priestcraft, for their craft today also contradicts the
> Bible, which they also profess to rely upon). It is the very age
predicted
> by Isaiah, the Prophet, when "darkness should cover the earth and gross
> darkness the minds of the people;" it is a day of thick
darkness--darkness
> that has been accumulating for centuries , through the abominations
> practiced by the apostate nations of Christendom. Not even one ray of
light
> from heaven has forced its passage through the dark, gloomy dismal night
> with which they have been for centuries enshrouded, until an angel
> penetrated the depths and brought to light that treasure the Book of
> Mormon--and raised up inspired men by which light from heaven again shines
> on our earth.
> But so great are the mists of darkness, that this generation do not
perceive
> the light. "The light shineth in darkness, but the darkness comprhendeth
it
> not."
> "An age of light!" Oh tell it not in the face of high heaven! Where
> are your holy apostles inspired from heaven to speak the word of the Lord
in
> the ears of fallen man? Where are your prophets to lift up their voices
by
> the word of the Lord, and warn the nations of approaching danger? Where
are
> your Seers enwrapt in the visions of the Almighty (I have seen the Father
> and spoken face to face with him in the vision), bringing to light things
> both new and old (I have received two volumes of scripture authoritatively
> for Israel as anciently), opening the grand events of futurity, and
> unlocking the hidden mysteries of the heavenly world? Where now is the
> voice of inspiration, and the voice of angels (I have been visited by two)
> to salute the ears of mortal man with glad tidings of great joy? Where
now
> are the gifts of healing -the opening of the eyes of the blind--the
> unstopping of the ears of the deaf-- the speaking with other tongues, and
> all the miraculous gifts and powers of Holy Ghost? They are not to be as
> enjoyed by the Latter-day Saints (1854, the modern ones have departed from
> the Lord). Will Christendom have the unblushing impudence to call
> themselves the people of God, when they are destitute of all these most
> precious gifts promised in the gospel? "An age of light!" Oh shame! Oh
> impudence! when will you cease to call evil good? How long will the
heavens
> suffer such wickedness to go unpunished!
> "And age of light!"--"a Christian nation!" Go to all your large
cities
> throughout the land--find one, if you can, where there are not whoredoms
> (now we have an even greater abomination, forced governmental racial
mixing
> with the black and filthy race of Cain, the first murderer calculated by
> rich and lying politicians and newsmen to get gain by robbing the white
and
> delightsome race, Israel, of its future birthright and incurring the curse
> of Cain upon them and their posterity forever, all urged on by Black
devils
> guised in ministers garb shouting glory and praise to the God of Pharaoh,
> who was as black in his mind as they, and the white masses caving into
this
> delusion as before . the flood, for thus saith the Lord, the black race of
> Cain sought to mix with the white and delightsome race that the Curse upon
> Cain was in danger of being spread over all the face of the earth, and it
> was that rather than the earth become lost, I the Lord God did send in the
> flood upon them that the inheritance of mine anointed might be preserved.)
> But God suffers you thus to corrupt yourselves, because you love darkness
> and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and false doctrines and every evil work.
> He will suffer you until your golden cup is full and running over, that he
> may visit you with a more speedy and awful judgment, and blot out your
name
> from under heaven! Then shall the holy apostles and prophets, and all the
> heavens rejoice over your downfall; for you shall fall to rise no more.
> At the present time, so great is your wickedness, that silence reigns
> in heaven, and all eternity is pained, and the angels are waiting with
> longing anxiety for the great command to reap down the harvest of the
earth,
> and bind the tares in bundles and give them to the burning flame1 And if
> you will not listen to the warning voice, and repent, the servants of God
> will not cease their cries to the heavens, until God shall come out of his
> hiding place, and make a full end, that the earth may be cleansed and rest
> for a season.
> How is it, that you will not awake to a sense of the awful condition
> that you are in? How is it, that you will close your eyes to the signs of
> the times, (Civil war was poured out upon them in punishment by the Lord
for
> killing Joseph and Hyrum, my beloved brethren, the Prophets and Seers of
> Jacob, yea, even Israel) and not perceive the day of your visitation? How
> is it, that you will not pay any attention to that which belongs to your
> peace? How is it, that you can be so hard in your hearts and blind in
your
> minds that you cannot perceive the hand of the Lord in bringing to light
> the sacred Records of the ancient Israelites who dwelt upon this
continent?
> Why do you condemn the most excellent work upon popular rumour, without
even
> reading one page of its contents? Why will you be proud in your hearts
and
> exalt yourselves above all other nations, and boast of your own strength
as
> a nation, and imagine that no evil will come upon you, though you continue
> in your wickedness? (Was not Brother Orson a prophet in this regard, even
as
> I am, for I, being moved upon mightily by the Spirit of Revelation, and
> Prophecy, do hereby prophesy such great destruction upon this the North
> American continent that the tongue cannot portray the scene of anguish,
and
> this shall be because of the wickedness of the inhabitants of the land as
> before, and it shall be racial conflict between the abominable black son
of
> Cain and the equally wretched red-necked gentile, saith the Lord, that it
> shall make Civil War seem civil in comparison, for they even they, saith
the
> Lord, shall feed upon each other's flesh in that day as in the day that
the
> Nephite and Lamanite warriors fed upon the flesh of their victims as
> recorded in the Book of Mormon as a testimony to this nation of bigots of
> their pattern in their destruction as a nation, for thus saith the Lord,
> they, even they shall be hewn down just in like manner as the two other
> nations whose inhabitants have covered the land also as thine, O ye great
> big Gentile). Why not discern and understand that it is God that has
made
> you a strong and powerful nation, and not yourselves? It is God that
> setteth up and pulleth down.
> If you would repent, as He requires you in the Book of Mormon, you would
> continue to be blessed upon the land; but if you obey not and reject His
> word, He will certainly visit you as it is written. Oh, then, why will
you
> not repent? it will certainly do you no harm to repent, and forsake false
> doctrines and every species of wickedness. If you repent and call upon
the
> Lord even as our pilgrim fathers did, when they first came to this land,
God
> will be merciful unto you and prolong your blessings in the land.-- Even
> though you in your darkness may suppose the Book of Mormon (and the
> Book--The Revelations of Jesus Christ) an imposition, you certainly will
be
> on the safe side if you repent and do as that book (those books) require.
> If this new revelation required you to do something that was evil,
you
> would have some reason for distrusting it and paying no attention to it;
> but when it requires you to repent, and forsake every evil practice, and
> sets forth your evils and abominations plainly before your eyes, of which
> you yourselves know that you are guilty, where is your excuse for not
> obeying, even though you may think that it is the work of man? If it be
the
> work of man, can you be excused, and will God overlook all the sins which
> you know you are guilty of and which that book accuses you of, and which
it
> requires you to repent of? No: you have no excuse; you well know that
you
> ought to repent of every evil of which (those books) accuse you; and that
> God will in no wise acquit the guilty. And if you already know this, how
> much more ought you to fear when a professed revelation makes its
appearance
> threatening you with awful and speedy judgment, if you do not repent.
> Oh my nation! the inhabitants of this beautiful and lovely country!
> open your ears to the voice of your bowels of compassion yearn over
> you--whose voice is to all the inhabitants of the land calling upon them
to
> repent, and turn away from all their iniquities, and be rebaptized in His
> name for the remission of sins, that they may be filled with the Holy
Ghost.
> Then shall ye know His voice, and the voice of his servants, and the voice
> of his spirit: for the spirit is light, and maketh manifest the truth,
and
> if it be in you, you shall be the children of the light and not walk in
> darkness.
> Now what man is there in all this nation that will not acknowledge
that
> repentance would not only be beneficial to individuals, but to the whole
> nation? Why then condemn the (The Revelations of Jesus Christ) Book of
> Mormon, for calling upon you to do that which you know would be
beneficial?
> But, you may reply, the Book of Mormon (Ibid) professes to be a New
> Revelation, and we do not believe in new revelation, (or we do not believe
a
> man from the east with such an unlikely name as Art Bulla can get it, for
he
> should be able to cut off an arm or some other member of the body and
> restore it again or some other sign that the people may know he has come
> with power, before we will believe) and therefor we will not repent--A
poor
> excuse indeed! that you will not do that which you acknowledge would be
> beneficial, because you
> Another thing should cause you to fear and tremble exceedingly.
> You should remember that, that very book is substantiated to this
generation
> with far greater evidence than they have for any other revelation . To
> reject so great evidence, and still remain in your sins will be
presumptuous
> on your part.
> Again, every man in the nation has the privilege on condition of
> repentance and obedience of receiving the Holy Ghost, which will most
> assuredly guide them into all truth, and bear record unto them of the
truth
> of this New Revelation, so that they may have the same knowledge of the
> divine Authenticity of the Record as they have of any other truth. To
know
> a thing to be true certainly would impart more happiness and joy, than to
> remain in uncertainty and doubt. A knowledge of the truth will give
> stability to the mind, so that it will not fluctuate to and fro with every
> wind of doctrine, invented by the cunning craftiness of uninspired men.
Is
> there any excuse therefore, for any man in the nation when it is within
the
> power of all to obtain the most perfect knowledge that the (Revelations of
> Jesus Christ) Book of Mormon is a revelation from God? And especially
when
> this knowledge is to be obtained by doing that which every man will
> acknowledge ought to be done, and which all see would be beneficial both
to
> individuals and to the nation to do?
> Orson Pratt, The Seer, May 1854. Published Washington, D.C.
>
>
> --
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> http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
>
> But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call
> down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are
> indebted to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say
how
> much God has spoken and how much He has not spoken? Joseph Smith
>
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>
Jong Kim
> Many do not understand the nature of prophecy. I would like to say here,
> that prophecy is conditional and many times the prophecy is altered by the
> persons, people, etc, turning from their evil way, the chief example being
> Jonah who prophesied the destruction of Ninevah. Shining a light on the
> wicked designs of men often has the effect of altering the result
> prophesied. Prophecy is conditonal, saith the Lord, on the repentance and
> obedience of men as they respond to the warning or as they work
> righteousness before the Lord and is not meant as a sign to the wicked,
but
> for a comfort to those who already believe. It is a wicked and adulterous
> generation that seeketh for a sign, saith the Lord. The Lord reserves the
> right to change his mind regarding future events just as you do, as the
> agency of men is introduces a randomness, which agency is respected by
God.
> Therefore circumstances which held at the beginning of the prophecy may
> change due to the reasons outlined above. These things are evident to the
> student of scripture, but not understood by the wicked and rebellious.
17 But behold, IF the inhabitants of the earth SHALL REPENT of their
wickedness and abominations they shall NOT be destroyed, saith the Lord of
Hosts.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 28:17)
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>
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Art Bulla wrote:
> Many do not understand the nature of prophecy. I would like to say here,
> that prophecy is conditional and many times the prophecy is altered by the
> persons, people, etc, turning from their evil way, the chief example being
> Jonah who prophesied the destruction of Ninevah.
Irrelevant. You said the Lord told you the "upcoming moderation" of the
newsgroup was an attempt to silence you
You lied.
Dangerous1
Forwhatitsworth
No doubt, Art never has made things easy for himself. But, regardless if
Jong/Aaron are mere doppelgangers for Art, or are real live stupid people of
their own existance, they sure do seem to be near perfect copies of Art
himself. Same quote-random-crap-until-the-eyes-glaze-over style, same total
lack of coherence.
And there's a new imaginary friend of Art now, too. Great. Just great.
>
> > It would make sense, if there is any sense to be had anywhere near Art.
> >
> > Mark
> > fwiw
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rich, AG6K, 805-386-3734
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> --
> Rich, AG6K, 805-386-3734
Mark
fwiw
Forwhatitsworth
"Jong Kim" <jo...@artbulla.com> wrote in message
news:rV4db.154460$0v4.11...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
This is good. Either Art's pet Jong is arguing with him, or Art's
personalities are beginning to come unravelled and he's fighting with
himself.
Mark
fwiw
Scott Marquardt
>Many do not understand the nature of prophecy. I would like to say here,
>that prophecy is conditional and many times the prophecy is altered by the
>persons, people, etc, turning from their evil way, the chief example being
>Jonah who prophesied the destruction of Ninevah. Shining a light on the
>wicked designs of men often has the effect of altering the result
>prophesied. <snip>
Great. This is great, Art. So now whenever something you prophesy doesn't
come to pass, not only can you claim it's because they repented, but you
can take the credit for their repentence by believing that your Powerful
and Mighty Words had just that effect. Art Bulla's prophecies do not come
true, because Art Bulla's prophecies are so very effective!
You've finally found a rationalization that reinforces your delusion.
- Scott
Scott Marquardt
>"Art Bulla" <a...@artbulla.com> wrote in message
>> Many do not understand the nature of prophecy. I would like to say here,
>> that prophecy is conditional and many times the prophecy is altered by the
>> persons, people, etc, turning from their evil way, the chief example being
[...]
>17 But behold, IF the inhabitants of the earth SHALL REPENT of their
>wickedness and abominations they shall NOT be destroyed, saith the Lord of
>Hosts.
Oh no, they're heterodyning off each other now.
- Scott