Re: "Now kill all the boys"
�R. L. Measures
<4caf103e-74e0-48ba...@f37g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 1:06=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <6bcd9d74-1bf0-4b82-a9d0-f290b4079...@r31g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 22, 10:01=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <941666e2-c520-4dce-9d0a-2704ac3ef...@b6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On May 22, 7:09=3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D95R. L. Measures) wr=
> ote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <61f31660-2e5d-405f-8236-5ec1864bd...@v23g2000pro.googlegroups.co=
> m>,
> >
> > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On May 21, 2:34=3D3D3DA0pm, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3D95R. L. Meas=
> ures) wr=3D
> > > ote:
> >
> > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > So, do you still think a person is "hostile toward Jews=
> " fo=3D
> > > r
> > > > > > > > > > > supporting the 1948 convention on genocide -- a major t=
> ool =3D
> > > used=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0to
> > > > > > > > > > > bring war criminals to justice? =3D3D3D3DA0The same war=
> crimi=3D
> > > nals t=3D3D
> > > > > hat ki=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > lled
> > > > > > > > > > > millions of Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3DA0Incredibly boring.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Measures, you ignored the question.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" for supporti=
> ng t=3D
> > > he 1=3D3D
> > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to bring war cr=
> imin=3D
> > > als =3D3D
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > justice? =3D3D3DA0The same war criminals that killed millio=
> ns of =3D
> > > Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3DA0ZZZZZ
> >
> > > > > > > Measures, you ignored the question.
> >
> > > > > > ** =3D3DA0Correct. Congrats. =3D3DA0
> >
> > > > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" for supporting t=
> he 1=3D
> > > 948
> > > > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to bring war crimin=
> als =3D
> > > to
> > > > > > > justice? =3D3DA0The same war criminals that killed millions of =
> Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > You seem to take that position. =3D3DA0After all, you accused m=
> e of
> > > > > > > "hostility toward Jews" in this thread, because I support the 1=
> 948
> > > > > > > convention on genocide.
> >
> > > > > > ** =3D3DA0I have no opinion the 1948 UN convention because I am u=
> nfamil=3D
> > > iar wi=3D3D
> > > > > th it.
> >
> > > > > If you have no opinion of the 1948 UN convention against genocide
> > > > > (because you are unfamiliar with it) then why did you accuse me of
> > > > > being "hostile towards Jews" for supporting that convention?
> >
> > > > > Didn't you know what you were talking about when you made that
> > > > > accusation?
> >
> > > > ** =3DA0quote me.
> >
> > > May 18, in this thread. =A0Duwayne posts an article challenging David=
> =3D92s
> > > assertion that the 1948 convention on genocide is =3D93bad=3D94 because=
> , as
> > > David asserts, it too easily targets innocent people
> >
> > > May 19, in this thread, Measures replies to Duwayne=3D92s article with =
> the
> > > terse comment =3D93incredible=3D94
> >
> > > May 19, in this thread, Duwayne replies to Measures with this
> > > question: =3D93What's "incredible," Measures?=3D94
> >
> > > May 19, in this thread, Measures answers =3D93** =A0hostility toward Je=
> ws.=3D94
> >
> > > Now, you=3D92ve been snipping and ignoring this question long enough,
> > > Measures. =A0How about a straight-forward and honest answer?
> >
> > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" for supporting the 1948
> > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to bring war criminals to
> > > justice? =A0The same war criminals that killed millions of Jews?
> > > You seem to take that position. =A0After all, you accused me of
> > > "hostility toward Jews" in this thread, because I support the 1948
> > > convention on genocide.
> >
> > ** =A0I don't know anything about said Convention,
>
> Okay. Then you didn't know anything about what you were talking
> about.
>
> Makes sense.
** he's mixed up.
>
>
> > however,
> > IMO you are prejudiced against Jews.
>
> That's the lie you've been promoting, Rich. But you haven't been able
> to supply a single quotation or position of mine that supports it.
>
> The sad thing is, you think a person is "prejudiced against Jews" for
> advocating human rights and condemning genocide.
** You advocate human rights for those wh randomly rocket their
neighbors, I say such rocketeers have no rights.
> By equating those
> things with anti-Semitism you make a mockery of every Jew that died in
> the holocaust.
** meshuggah
>
> You really should be ashamed of yourself.
>
** crazy?
> >
> > --
> > R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
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R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
Duwaynea Anderson
Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's "hostile toward
Jews" to support the 1948 convention against genocide?
>
>
>
> > You really should be ashamed of yourself.
>
> ** crazy?
>
> > > --
> > > R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org-Hide quoted text -
�R. L. Measures
<929f4a24-5c6e-486b...@o30g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 8:02=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <4caf103e-74e0-48ba-8be9-b7d4c2162...@f37g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 23, 1:06=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <6bcd9d74-1bf0-4b82-a9d0-f290b4079...@r31g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On May 22, 10:01=3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D95R. L. Measures) w=
> rote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <941666e2-c520-4dce-9d0a-2704ac3ef...@b6g2000pre.googlegroups.com=
> >,
> >
> > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On May 22, 7:09=3D3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3D95R. L. Meas=
> ures) wr=3D
> > > ote:
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > <61f31660-2e5d-405f-8236-5ec1864bd...@v23g2000pro.googlegroup=
> s.co=3D
> > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On May 21, 2:34=3D3D3D3DA0pm, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3D3D95R.=
> L. Meas=3D
> > > ures) wr=3D3D
> > > > > ote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So, do you still think a person is "hostile toward =
> Jews=3D
> > > " fo=3D3D
> > > > > r
> > > > > > > > > > > > > supporting the 1948 convention on genocide -- a maj=
> or t=3D
> > > ool =3D3D
> > > > > used=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > =3D3DA0to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > bring war criminals to justice? =3D3D3D3D3DA0The sa=
> me war=3D
> > > =A0crimi=3D3D
> > > > > nals t=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > hat ki=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > lled
> > > > > > > > > > > > > millions of Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3D3DA0Incredibly boring.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Measures, you ignored the question.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" for supp=
> orti=3D
> > > ng t=3D3D
> > > > > he 1=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to bring wa=
> r cr=3D
> > > imin=3D3D
> > > > > als =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > justice? =3D3D3D3DA0The same war criminals that killed =
> millio=3D
> > > ns of =3D3D
> > > > > Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3DA0ZZZZZ
> >
> > > > > > > > > Measures, you ignored the question.
> >
> > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3DA0Correct. Congrats. =3D3D3DA0
> >
> > > > > > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" for supporti=
> ng t=3D
> > > he 1=3D3D
> > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to bring war cr=
> imin=3D
> > > als =3D3D
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > justice? =3D3D3DA0The same war criminals that killed millio=
> ns of =3D
> > > Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > > > You seem to take that position. =3D3D3DA0After all, you acc=
> used m=3D
> > > e of
> > > > > > > > > "hostility toward Jews" in this thread, because I support t=
> he 1=3D
> > > 948
> > > > > > > > > convention on genocide.
> >
> > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3DA0I have no opinion the 1948 UN convention because =
> I am u=3D
> > > nfamil=3D3D
> > > > > iar wi=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > th it.
> >
> > > > > > > If you have no opinion of the 1948 UN convention against genoci=
> de
> > > > > > > (because you are unfamiliar with it) then why did you accuse me=
> of
> > > > > > > being "hostile towards Jews" for supporting that convention?
> >
> > > > > > > Didn't you know what you were talking about when you made that
> > > > > > > accusation?
> >
> > > > > > ** =3D3DA0quote me.
> >
> > > > > May 18, in this thread. =3DA0Duwayne posts an article challenging D=
> avid=3D
> > > =3D3D92s
> > > > > assertion that the 1948 convention on genocide is =3D3D93bad=3D3D94=
> because=3D
> > > , as
> > > > > David asserts, it too easily targets innocent people
> >
> > > > > May 19, in this thread, Measures replies to Duwayne=3D3D92s article=
> with =3D
> > > the
> > > > > terse comment =3D3D93incredible=3D3D94
> >
> > > > > May 19, in this thread, Duwayne replies to Measures with this
> > > > > question: =3D3D93What's "incredible," Measures?=3D3D94
> >
> > > > > May 19, in this thread, Measures answers =3D3D93** =3DA0hostility t=
> oward Je=3D
> > > ws.=3D3D94
> >
> > > > > Now, you=3D3D92ve been snipping and ignoring this question long eno=
> ugh,
> > > > > Measures. =3DA0How about a straight-forward and honest answer?
> >
> > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" for supporting the 1=
> 948
> > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to bring war criminals =
> to
> > > > > justice? =3DA0The same war criminals that killed millions of Jews?
> > > > > You seem to take that position. =3DA0After all, you accused me of
> > > > > "hostility toward Jews" in this thread, because I support the 1948
> > > > > convention on genocide.
> >
> > > > ** =3DA0I don't know anything about said Convention,
> >
> > > Okay. =A0Then you didn't know anything about what you were talking
> > > about.
> >
> > > Makes sense.
> >
> > ** =A0he's mixed up. =A0
> >
> >
> >
> > > > however,
> > > > IMO you are prejudiced against Jews.
> >
> > > That's the lie you've been promoting, Rich. =A0But you haven't been abl=
> e
> > > to supply a single quotation or position of mine that supports it.
> >
> > > The sad thing is, you think a person is "prejudiced against Jews" for
> > > advocating human rights and condemning genocide.
> >
> > ** =A0You advocate human rights for those wh randomly rocket their
> > neighbors, =A0 I say such rocketeers have no rights.
> >
> > > By equating those
> > > things with anti-Semitism you make a mockery of every Jew that died in
> > > the holocaust.
> >
> > ** =A0meshuggah
>
> Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's "hostile toward
> Jews" to support the 1948 convention against genocide?
>
** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
Duwaynea Anderson
Then why did you call me "hostile toward Jews" for supporting the 1948
convention against genocide?
�R. L. Measures
<c72fe570-3579-46cb...@s28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 8:52=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <929f4a24-5c6e-486b-b5a1-cbea5e6f3...@o30g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 28, 8:02=3DA0pm, r...@somis.org (=3D95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <4caf103e-74e0-48ba-8be9-b7d4c2162...@f37g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On May 23, 1:06=3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D95R. L. Measures) wr=
> ote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <6bcd9d74-1bf0-4b82-a9d0-f290b4079...@r31g2000prh.googlegroups.co=
> m>,
> >
> > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On May 22, 10:01=3D3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3D95R. L. Mea=
> sures) w=3D
> > > rote:
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > <941666e2-c520-4dce-9d0a-2704ac3ef...@b6g2000pre.googlegroups=
> .com=3D
> > > >,
> >
> > > > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On May 22, 7:09=3D3D3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3D3D95R.=
> L. Meas=3D
> > > ures) wr=3D3D
> > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > <61f31660-2e5d-405f-8236-5ec1864bd...@v23g2000pro.googleg=
> roup=3D
> > > s.co=3D3D
> > > > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 2:34=3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3D=
> 3D3D95R.=3D
> > > =A0L. Meas=3D3D
> > > > > ures) wr=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, do you still think a person is "hostile tow=
> ard =3D
> > > Jews=3D3D
> > > > > " fo=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > r
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supporting the 1948 convention on genocide -- a=
> maj=3D
> > > or t=3D3D
> > > > > ool =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > used=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bring war criminals to justice? =3D3D3D3D3D3DA0=
> The sa=3D
> > > me war=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0crimi=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > nals t=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > hat ki=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > lled
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > millions of Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3D3D3DA0Incredibly boring.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Measures, you ignored the question.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" for =
> supp=3D
> > > orti=3D3D
> > > > > ng t=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > he 1=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to brin=
> g wa=3D
> > > r cr=3D3D
> > > > > imin=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > als =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > justice? =3D3D3D3D3DA0The same war criminals that k=
> illed =3D
> > > millio=3D3D
> > > > > ns of =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3D3DA0ZZZZZ
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Measures, you ignored the question.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3DA0Correct. Congrats. =3D3D3D3DA0
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" for supp=
> orti=3D
> > > ng t=3D3D
> > > > > he 1=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to bring wa=
> r cr=3D
> > > imin=3D3D
> > > > > als =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > justice? =3D3D3D3DA0The same war criminals that killed =
> millio=3D
> > > ns of =3D3D
> > > > > Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > You seem to take that position. =3D3D3D3DA0After all, y=
> ou acc=3D
> > > used m=3D3D
> > > > > e of
> > > > > > > > > > > "hostility toward Jews" in this thread, because I suppo=
> rt t=3D
> > > he 1=3D3D
> > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > > > convention on genocide.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3DA0I have no opinion the 1948 UN convention be=
> cause =3D
> > > I am u=3D3D
> > > > > nfamil=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > iar wi=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > th it.
> >
> > > > > > > > > If you have no opinion of the 1948 UN convention against ge=
> noci=3D
> > > de
> > > > > > > > > (because you are unfamiliar with it) then why did you accus=
> e me=3D
> > > =A0of
> > > > > > > > > being "hostile towards Jews" for supporting that convention=
> ?
> >
> > > > > > > > > Didn't you know what you were talking about when you made t=
> hat
> > > > > > > > > accusation?
> >
> > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3DA0quote me.
> >
> > > > > > > May 18, in this thread. =3D3DA0Duwayne posts an article challen=
> ging D=3D
> > > avid=3D3D
> > > > > =3D3D3D92s
> > > > > > > assertion that the 1948 convention on genocide is =3D3D3D93bad=
> =3D3D3D94=3D
> > > =A0because=3D3D
> > > > > , as
> > > > > > > David asserts, it too easily targets innocent people
> >
> > > > > > > May 19, in this thread, Measures replies to Duwayne=3D3D3D92s a=
> rticle=3D
> > > =A0with =3D3D
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > terse comment =3D3D3D93incredible=3D3D3D94
> >
> > > > > > > May 19, in this thread, Duwayne replies to Measures with this
> > > > > > > question: =3D3D3D93What's "incredible," Measures?=3D3D3D94
> >
> > > > > > > May 19, in this thread, Measures answers =3D3D3D93** =3D3DA0hos=
> tility t=3D
> > > oward Je=3D3D
> > > > > ws.=3D3D3D94
> >
> > > > > > > Now, you=3D3D3D92ve been snipping and ignoring this question lo=
> ng eno=3D
> > > ugh,
> > > > > > > Measures. =3D3DA0How about a straight-forward and honest answer=
> ?
> >
> > > > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" for supporting t=
> he 1=3D
> > > 948
> > > > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to bring war crimin=
> als =3D
> > > to
> > > > > > > justice? =3D3DA0The same war criminals that killed millions of =
> Jews?
> > > > > > > You seem to take that position. =3D3DA0After all, you accused m=
> e of
> > > > > > > "hostility toward Jews" in this thread, because I support the 1=
> 948
> > > > > > > convention on genocide.
> >
> > > > > > ** =3D3DA0I don't know anything about said Convention,
> >
> > > > > Okay. =3DA0Then you didn't know anything about what you were talkin=
> g
> > > > > about.
> >
> > > > > Makes sense.
> >
> > > > ** =3DA0he's mixed up. =3DA0
> >
> > > > > > however,
> > > > > > IMO you are prejudiced against Jews.
> >
> > > > > That's the lie you've been promoting, Rich. =3DA0But you haven't be=
> en abl=3D
> > > e
> > > > > to supply a single quotation or position of mine that supports it.
> >
> > > > > The sad thing is, you think a person is "prejudiced against Jews" f=
> or
> > > > > advocating human rights and condemning genocide.
> >
> > > > ** =3DA0You advocate human rights for those wh randomly rocket their
> > > > neighbors, =3DA0 I say such rocketeers have no rights.
> >
> > > > > By equating those
> > > > > things with anti-Semitism you make a mockery of every Jew that died=
> in
> > > > > the holocaust.
> >
> > > > ** =3DA0meshuggah
> >
> > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's "hostile toward
> > > Jews" to support the 1948 convention against genocide?
> >
> > ** =A0I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
>
> Then why did you call me "hostile toward Jews" for supporting the 1948
> convention against genocide?
** I determined that you, Manning, and Kramer were anti-Semitic from a
number of things you said.
Duwaynea Anderson
I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
(which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
is anti-Semitic.
Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
>
>
>
> --
> R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org
�R. L. Measures
<0534144a-d29d-4478...@j18g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 5:37=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <c72fe570-3579-46cb-b630-2ab30b1e9...@s28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 29, 8:52=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <929f4a24-5c6e-486b-b5a1-cbea5e6f3...@o30g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On May 28, 8:02=3D3DA0pm, r...@somis.org (=3D3D95R. L. Measures) wr=
> ote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <4caf103e-74e0-48ba-8be9-b7d4c2162...@f37g2000pro.googlegroups.co=
> m>,
> >
> > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On May 23, 1:06=3D3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3D95R. L. Meas=
> ures) wr=3D
> > > ote:
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > <6bcd9d74-1bf0-4b82-a9d0-f290b4079...@r31g2000prh.googlegroup=
> s.co=3D
> > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On May 22, 10:01=3D3D3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3D3D95R=
> . L. Mea=3D
> > > sures) w=3D3D
> > > > > rote:
> > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > <941666e2-c520-4dce-9d0a-2704ac3ef...@b6g2000pre.googlegr=
> oups=3D
> > > .com=3D3D
> > > > > >,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 22, 7:09=3D3D3D3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3D=
> 3D3D95R.=3D
> > > =A0L. Meas=3D3D
> > > > > ures) wr=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > > <61f31660-2e5d-405f-8236-5ec1864bd...@v23g2000pro.goo=
> gleg=3D
> > > roup=3D3D
> > > > > s.co=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 2:34=3D3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, r...@somis.org (=
> =3D3D3D3D=3D
> > > 3D3D95R.=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0L. Meas=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ures) wr=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, do you still think a person is "hostile=
> tow=3D
> > > ard =3D3D
> > > > > Jews=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > " fo=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > r
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supporting the 1948 convention on genocide =
> -- a=3D
> > > =A0maj=3D3D
> > > > > or t=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ool =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > used=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3DA0to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bring war criminals to justice? =3D3D3D3D3D=
> 3D3DA0=3D
> > > The sa=3D3D
> > > > > me war=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > =3D3DA0crimi=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > nals t=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > hat ki=3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > lled
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > millions of Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3D3D3D3DA0Incredibly boring.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Measures, you ignored the question.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" =
> for =3D
> > > supp=3D3D
> > > > > orti=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ng t=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > he 1=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to =
> brin=3D
> > > g wa=3D3D
> > > > > r cr=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > imin=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > als =3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > justice? =3D3D3D3D3D3DA0The same war criminals =
> that k=3D
> > > illed =3D3D
> > > > > millio=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ns of =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3D3D3DA0ZZZZZ
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Measures, you ignored the question.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3D3DA0Correct. Congrats. =3D3D3D3D3DA0
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" for =
> supp=3D
> > > orti=3D3D
> > > > > ng t=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > he 1=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to brin=
> g wa=3D
> > > r cr=3D3D
> > > > > imin=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > als =3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > justice? =3D3D3D3D3DA0The same war criminals that k=
> illed =3D
> > > millio=3D3D
> > > > > ns of =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You seem to take that position. =3D3D3D3D3DA0After =
> all, y=3D
> > > ou acc=3D3D
> > > > > used m=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > e of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "hostility toward Jews" in this thread, because I s=
> uppo=3D
> > > rt t=3D3D
> > > > > he 1=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > > > > > convention on genocide.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3D3DA0I have no opinion the 1948 UN convent=
> ion be=3D
> > > cause =3D3D
> > > > > I am u=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > nfamil=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > iar wi=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > th it.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > If you have no opinion of the 1948 UN convention agains=
> t ge=3D
> > > noci=3D3D
> > > > > de
> > > > > > > > > > > (because you are unfamiliar with it) then why did you a=
> ccus=3D
> > > e me=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0of
> > > > > > > > > > > being "hostile towards Jews" for supporting that conven=
> tion=3D
> > > ?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Didn't you know what you were talking about when you ma=
> de t=3D
> > > hat
> > > > > > > > > > > accusation?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3DA0quote me.
> >
> > > > > > > > > May 18, in this thread. =3D3D3DA0Duwayne posts an article c=
> hallen=3D
> > > ging D=3D3D
> > > > > avid=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D92s
> > > > > > > > > assertion that the 1948 convention on genocide is =3D3D3D3D=
> 93bad=3D
> > > =3D3D3D3D94=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0because=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > , as
> > > > > > > > > David asserts, it too easily targets innocent people
> >
> > > > > > > > > May 19, in this thread, Measures replies to Duwayne=3D3D3D3=
> D92s a=3D
> > > rticle=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0with =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > terse comment =3D3D3D3D93incredible=3D3D3D3D94
> >
> > > > > > > > > May 19, in this thread, Duwayne replies to Measures with th=
> is
> > > > > > > > > question: =3D3D3D3D93What's "incredible," Measures?=3D3D3D3=
> D94
> >
> > > > > > > > > May 19, in this thread, Measures answers =3D3D3D3D93** =3D3=
> D3DA0hos=3D
> > > tility t=3D3D
> > > > > oward Je=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ws.=3D3D3D3D94
> >
> > > > > > > > > Now, you=3D3D3D3D92ve been snipping and ignoring this quest=
> ion lo=3D
> > > ng eno=3D3D
> > > > > ugh,
> > > > > > > > > Measures. =3D3D3DA0How about a straight-forward and honest =
> answer=3D
> > > ?
> >
> > > > > > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" for supporti=
> ng t=3D
> > > he 1=3D3D
> > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to bring war cr=
> imin=3D
> > > als =3D3D
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > justice? =3D3D3DA0The same war criminals that killed millio=
> ns of =3D
> > > Jews?
> > > > > > > > > You seem to take that position. =3D3D3DA0After all, you acc=
> used m=3D
> > > e of
> > > > > > > > > "hostility toward Jews" in this thread, because I support t=
> he 1=3D
> > > 948
> > > > > > > > > convention on genocide.
> >
> > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3DA0I don't know anything about said Convention,
> >
> > > > > > > Okay. =3D3DA0Then you didn't know anything about what you were =
> talkin=3D
> > > g
> > > > > > > about.
> >
> > > > > > > Makes sense.
> >
> > > > > > ** =3D3DA0he's mixed up. =3D3DA0
> >
> > > > > > > > however,
> > > > > > > > IMO you are prejudiced against Jews.
> >
> > > > > > > That's the lie you've been promoting, Rich. =3D3DA0But you have=
> n't be=3D
> > > en abl=3D3D
> > > > > e
> > > > > > > to supply a single quotation or position of mine that supports =
> it.
> >
> > > > > > > The sad thing is, you think a person is "prejudiced against Jew=
> s" f=3D
> > > or
> > > > > > > advocating human rights and condemning genocide.
> >
> > > > > > ** =3D3DA0You advocate human rights for those wh randomly rocket =
> their
> > > > > > neighbors, =3D3DA0 I say such rocketeers have no rights.
> >
> > > > > > > By equating those
> > > > > > > things with anti-Semitism you make a mockery of every Jew that =
> died=3D
> > > =A0in
> > > > > > > the holocaust.
> >
> > > > > > ** =3D3DA0meshuggah
> >
> > > > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's "hostile tow=
> ard
> > > > > Jews" to support the 1948 convention against genocide?
> >
> > > > ** =3DA0I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
> >
> > > Then why did you call me "hostile toward Jews" for supporting the 1948
> > > convention against genocide?
> >
> > ** =A0I determined that you, Manning, and Kramer were anti-Semitic from a
> > number of things you said.
>
> I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>
> It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> is anti-Semitic.
>
> Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
>
** chortle
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org
Duwaynea Anderson
By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
"anti-Semitic."
Alexander
Actually he was choking on the facts you stuffed down his throat.
dsharavi
> > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
>>against genocide?
On May 29, 8:52 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> ** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
That makes two of you.
Deborah
dsharavi
wrote:
> I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>
> It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> is anti-Semitic.
>
> Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
Adolf Eichmann was another who claimed he wasn't an antisemite.
Duwayne Anderson, taking a stand defending human rights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s&feature=related
Deborah
�R. L. Measures
<a059e8ea-bdd6-493b...@k38g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 8:30=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <0534144a-d29d-4478-8901-6bcd85133...@j18g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 29, 5:37=3DA0pm, r...@somis.org (=3D95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <c72fe570-3579-46cb-b630-2ab30b1e9...@s28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On May 29, 8:52=3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D95R. L. Measures) wr=
> ote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <929f4a24-5c6e-486b-b5a1-cbea5e6f3...@o30g2000vbc.googlegroups.co=
> m>,
> >
> > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On May 28, 8:02=3D3D3DA0pm, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3D95R. L. Meas=
> ures) wr=3D
> > > ote:
> > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > <4caf103e-74e0-48ba-8be9-b7d4c2162...@f37g2000pro.googlegroup=
> s.co=3D
> > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On May 23, 1:06=3D3D3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3D3D95R.=
> L. Meas=3D
> > > ures) wr=3D3D
> > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > <6bcd9d74-1bf0-4b82-a9d0-f290b4079...@r31g2000prh.googleg=
> roup=3D
> > > s.co=3D3D
> > > > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 22, 10:01=3D3D3D3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3=
> D3D3D95R=3D
> > > . L. Mea=3D3D
> > > > > sures) w=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > rote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > > <941666e2-c520-4dce-9d0a-2704ac3ef...@b6g2000pre.goog=
> legr=3D
> > > oups=3D3D
> > > > > .com=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > >,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 22, 7:09=3D3D3D3D3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=
> =3D3D3D3D=3D
> > > 3D3D95R.=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0L. Meas=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ures) wr=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <61f31660-2e5d-405f-8236-5ec1864bd...@v23g2000pro=
> .goo=3D
> > > gleg=3D3D
> > > > > roup=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > s.co=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > m>,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wro=
> te:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 21, 2:34=3D3D3D3D3D3D3DA0pm, r...@somis.=
> org (=3D
> > > =3D3D3D3D3D=3D3D
> > > > > 3D3D95R.=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > =3D3DA0L. Meas=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ures) wr=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > ote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, do you still think a person is "hos=
> tile=3D
> > > =A0tow=3D3D
> > > > > ard =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > Jews=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > " fo=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > r
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supporting the 1948 convention on genoc=
> ide =3D
> > > -- a=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0maj=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > or t=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ool =3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > used=3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D3DA0to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bring war criminals to justice? =3D3D3D=
> 3D3D3D=3D
> > > 3D3DA0=3D3D
> > > > > The sa=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > me war=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3D3DA0crimi=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > nals t=3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hat ki=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lled
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > millions of Jews?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3D3D3D3D3DA0Incredibly boring.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Measures, you ignored the question.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Je=
> ws" =3D
> > > for =3D3D
> > > > > supp=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > orti=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > ng t=3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > he 1=3D3D3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used=
> to =3D
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> >
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> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Measures, you ignored the question.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3D3D3DA0Correct. Congrats. =3D3D3D3D3D3=
> DA0
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> > > > > > > =3D3DA0of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > being "hostile towards Jews" for supporting that co=
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > accusation?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3D3DA0quote me.
> >
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> icle c=3D
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> > > > > ging D=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > avid=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > =3D3D3D3D3D92s
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> > > > > > > =3D3DA0because=3D3D3D3D
> > > > > > > > > , as
> > > > > > > > > > > David asserts, it too easily targets innocent people
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > May 19, in this thread, Measures replies to Duwayne=3D3=
> D3D3D3=3D
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> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > terse comment =3D3D3D3D3D93incredible=3D3D3D3D3D94
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > May 19, in this thread, Duwayne replies to Measures wit=
> h th=3D
> > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > question: =3D3D3D3D3D93What's "incredible," Measures?=
> =3D3D3D3D3=3D
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> >
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> * =3D3D3=3D
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> > > > > > > > > ws.=3D3D3D3D3D94
> >
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> quest=3D
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> > > > > > > ugh,
> > > > > > > > > > > Measures. =3D3D3D3DA0How about a straight-forward and h=
> onest =3D
> > > answer=3D3D
> > > > > ?
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Do you think a person is "hostile toward Jews" for supp=
> orti=3D
> > > ng t=3D3D
> > > > > he 1=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > > > convention on genocide -- a major tool used to bring wa=
> r cr=3D
> > > imin=3D3D
> > > > > als =3D3D3D
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > justice? =3D3D3D3DA0The same war criminals that killed =
> millio=3D
> > > ns of =3D3D
> > > > > Jews?
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> ou acc=3D
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> > > > > > > > > > > "hostility toward Jews" in this thread, because I suppo=
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> > > > > 948
> > > > > > > > > > > convention on genocide.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3DA0I don't know anything about said Convention=
> ,
> >
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> were =3D
> > > talkin=3D3D
> > > > > g
> > > > > > > > > about.
> >
> > > > > > > > > Makes sense.
> >
> > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3DA0he's mixed up. =3D3D3DA0
> >
> > > > > > > > > > however,
> > > > > > > > > > IMO you are prejudiced against Jews.
> >
> > > > > > > > > That's the lie you've been promoting, Rich. =3D3D3DA0But yo=
> u have=3D
> > > n't be=3D3D
> > > > > en abl=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > e
> > > > > > > > > to supply a single quotation or position of mine that suppo=
> rts =3D
> > > it.
> >
> > > > > > > > > The sad thing is, you think a person is "prejudiced against=
> Jew=3D
> > > s" f=3D3D
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > advocating human rights and condemning genocide.
> >
> > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3DA0You advocate human rights for those wh randomly r=
> ocket =3D
> > > their
> > > > > > > > neighbors, =3D3D3DA0 I say such rocketeers have no rights.
> >
> > > > > > > > > By equating those
> > > > > > > > > things with anti-Semitism you make a mockery of every Jew t=
> hat =3D
> > > died=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0in
> > > > > > > > > the holocaust.
> >
> > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3DA0meshuggah
> >
> > > > > > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's "hostile=
> tow=3D
> > > ard
> > > > > > > Jews" to support the 1948 convention against genocide?
> >
> > > > > > ** =3D3DA0I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
> >
> > > > > Then why did you call me "hostile toward Jews" for supporting the 1=
> 948
> > > > > convention against genocide?
> >
> > > > ** =3DA0I determined that you, Manning, and Kramer were anti-Semitic =
> from a
> > > > number of things you said.
> >
> > > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> > > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
> >
> > > It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> > > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> > > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> > > is anti-Semitic.
> >
> > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =A0When you attach the reckless
> > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > > and bigotry. =A0You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> >
> > ** =A0chortle
>
> By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> "anti-Semitic."
>
** I'm chortling at the meshuggah stuff you come up with.
dsharavi
> > > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> > > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>
> > > It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> > > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> > > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> > > is anti-Semitic.
>
> > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > > and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> On May 30, 8:30 pm, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > ** chortle
On May 30, 9:41 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> "anti-Semitic."
"I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
“Jews are wonderful people, as are Palestinians. They have a
wonderful
history and tradition. I even find many of their religious traditions
refreshing -- and I'm an atheist.”
Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 7 May 2009 19:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
“Susan also provided this quote of mine:
Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
of Gaza really belongs to Israel?"
Duwaynea Anderson, Mon, 11 May 2009 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
“Susan's religion is vile”
Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
“I said Susan's religous beliefs are vile.”
Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
“Susan is lying -- and violating The Law. I didn't say "Judaism is
vile." Your bastardized religion is certainly "vile" but you don't
define Judaism. You are to Judaism what Taliban is to Islam: a
fanatice that destroys the good in the religon to spread your message
of hate.”
Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
“Saying that Israel does vile things is not the same as saying that
Judaism is vile; Judaism is a religion, not a country. Your religion
is not Judaism. You are to Judaism as Pat Roberts is to
Christianity. You are to Judaism as the Taliban is to Islam.”
Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
“Susan is lying again. I've never called Judaism "vile." I have
called Susan's bastardized religion (which is *not* true Judiasm)
vile.”
Duwaynea Anderson,Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
“I wonder if she got the motivation for her genocidal hatred from
Moses? “
Duwaynea Anderson, Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:03:43 -0800 (PST)
Duwayne R. Anderson: taking a stand on defending human rights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s&feature=related
Deborah
�R. L. Measures
<6cdb03ed-95d4-4f78...@r37g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
dsharavi <dsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On May 30, 6:30=A0pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
> >
> > It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> > is anti-Semitic.
> >
> > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =A0When you attach the reckless
> > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > and bigotry. =A0You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
>
> Adolf Eichmann was another who claimed he wasn't an antisemite.
>
** Good one Deborah.
�R. L. Measures
<cca0a06a-32bd-48eb...@t21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
dsharavi <dsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> >>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> >>against genocide?
>
> On May 29, 8:52 am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > ** =A0I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
>
> That makes two of you.
>
> Deborah
** chortle
dsharavi
> > wrote:
> > > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> > > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>
> > > It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> > > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> > > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> > > is anti-Semitic.
>
> > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =A0When you attach the reckless
> > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > > and bigotry. =A0You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Adolf Eichmann was another who claimed he wasn't an antisemite.
On May 31, 1:49 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> ** Good one Deborah.
Every time someone protests too much that he/she isn't an antisemite,
the Eichmann quote is the first thing that comes to mind.
Another that comes to mind is the old saying: If one person says
you're drinking too much - slow down. If two people say you're
drinking too much - lie down.
By now, more than two people have opined that Duwayne is an antisemite
-- and that includes the Jews he's tangled with. Time for Duwayne to
lie down.
Deborah
mir...@actcom.co.il
> Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
Mr Duwaynea!
Mostly Latent Anti Semites , who hide it and are speaking against
Israel [ as a cover up for their Anti semitism ] use this kind of
examples or arguments, We don`t need your comments about Holocaust,
It is People like YOU Speaking against JEWS , who are making a mockery
of Human rigths , Basic Human Rights teach Not to Incite against
Others , something which you do ALL THE TIME .
mirjam
mir...@actcom.co.il
And it is my experience that Every Antisemite has `His Jewish
Friend`,
mirjam
�R. L. Measures
<323c0b07-23bd-44c1...@x3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> >
> > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =A0When you attach the reckless
> > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > and bigotry. =A0You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
>
> Mr Duwaynea!
> Mostly Latent Anti Semites , who hide it and are speaking against
> Israel [ as a cover up for their Anti semitism ] use this kind of
> examples or arguments, We don`t need your comments about Holocaust,
> It is People like YOU Speaking against JEWS , who are making a mockery
> of Human rigths , Basic Human Rights teach Not to Incite against
> Others , something which you do ALL THE TIME .
>
> mirjam
** indeed M.
�R. L. Measures
Gary Renzetti
Nice try but no cigar, Mirjam.
Anti-zionism and anti-Isr-al are *not* antisemitism.
Duwaynea Anderson
Deborah, I still haven't seen an answer from you with regard to
genocide. I do hope you aren't trying to dodge the question. Here it
is again:
Do you universally and unequivocally condemn genocide?
Waiting ...
Duwaynea Anderson
> On May 30, 6:30 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>
> > It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> > is anti-Semitic.
>
> > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
>
> Adolf Eichmann was another who claimed he wasn't an antisemite.
Adolf Eichmann (apparenlty like you) was unwilling to universally and
unequivocally condemn genocide.
Duwaynea Anderson
> In article
<snip>
> > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =A0When you attach the reckless
> > > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > > > and bigotry. =A0You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
>
> > > ** =A0chortle
>
> > By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> > "anti-Semitic."
>
> ** I'm chortling at the meshuggah stuff you come up with.
Are you saying you *support* and defend genocide, and that because I
universally and un-conditionally condemn genocide you think I'm "anti-
Semitic" and post "meshuggah stuff?"
>
> --
> R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org
Duwaynea Anderson
> > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> > > > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>
> > > > It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> > > > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> > > > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> > > > is anti-Semitic.
>
> > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> > > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > > > and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> > On May 30, 8:30 pm, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > ** chortle
>
> On May 30, 9:41 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> > "anti-Semitic."
>
> "I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
Adolf Eichmann, like Deborah, also refused to condemn genocide.
>
> “Jews are wonderful people, as are Palestinians. They have a
> wonderful
> history and tradition. I even find many of their religious traditions
> refreshing -- and I'm an atheist.”
> Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 7 May 2009 19:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
Deborah, would you explain why you think is "anti-Semitic” to describe
Jews as “wonderful people with a wonderful history and tradition?”
> “Susan also provided this quote of mine:
> Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
> their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
> can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
> of Gaza really belongs to Israel?"
> Duwaynea Anderson, Mon, 11 May 2009 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
Deborah, would you find the word "Jew" in that sentence?
You wouldn't be a fanatical Zionist that equates Israel with Judaism,
would you?
> “Susan's religion is vile”
> Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
You think that Susan is Judaism? My! You really are a fanatic.
>
> “I said Susan's religous beliefs are vile.”
> Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
Susan is not Jewish.
>
> “Susan is lying -- and violating The Law. I didn't say "Judaism is
> vile." Your bastardized religion is certainly "vile" but you don't
> define Judaism. You are to Judaism what Taliban is to Islam: a
> fanatice that destroys the good in the religon to spread your message
> of hate.”
> Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
Do you even bother to read these quotations, Deborah? Here I am, on
record, saying *good* things about Judaism -- and you think that is
"anti-Semitic?"
You are not Jewish. You don't follow Judaism. Your bastardized
religion is vile. But that's got nothing to do with Judaism. Like
any fanatic, you are simply trying to hijack a great religion for your
personal fanatical aspirations.
> “Saying that Israel does vile things is not the same as saying that
> Judaism is vile; Judaism is a religion, not a country. Your religion
> is not Judaism. You are to Judaism as Pat Roberts is to
> Christianity. You are to Judaism as the Taliban is to Islam.”
> Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
As if to prove the point, Deborah does it again. Provides a quotation
showing her personal fanatacism, and nothing that is "anti-Semitic."
>
> “Susan is lying again. I've never called Judaism "vile." I have
> called Susan's bastardized religion (which is *not* true Judiasm)
> vile.”
> Duwaynea Anderson,Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
The fact your religion (which is not Judaism) is vile, Deborah, is
clearly illustrated by the way you refuse to condemn genocide.
> “I wonder if she got the motivation for her genocidal hatred from
> Moses? “
Young-earth creationists got their motivation from Moses, too. Do you
think it’s “anti-Semitic” to study geology?
> Duwaynea Anderson, Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:03:43 -0800 (PST)
>
> Duwayne R. Anderson: taking a stand on defending human rights:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s&feature=related
>
> Deborah- Hide quoted text -
Duwaynea Anderson
> > > On May 30, 6:30=A0pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> > > > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>
> > > > It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> > > > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> > > > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> > > > is anti-Semitic.
>
> > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =A0When you attach the reckless
> > > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > > > and bigotry. =A0You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> > dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Adolf Eichmann was another who claimed he wasn't an antisemite.
>
> On May 31, 1:49 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>
> > ** Good one Deborah.
>
> Every time someone protests too much that he/she isn't an antisemite,
> the Eichmann quote is the first thing that comes to mind.
Eichmann, like Deborah, also refused to universally and
unconditionally condemn genocide.
And R. L. Measures thinks that supporting the 1948 convention against
genocide reflects "hostility toward Jews."
> Another that comes to mind is the old saying: If one person says
> you're drinking too much - slow down. If two people say you're
> drinking too much - lie down.
>
> By now, more than two people have opined that Duwayne is an antisemite
> -- and that includes the Jews he's tangled with. Time for Duwayne to
> lie down.
>
> Deborah- Hide quoted text -
Duwaynea Anderson
> > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
>
> Mr Duwaynea!
> Mostly Latent Anti Semites , who hide it and are speaking against
> Israel
What bunk. I suppose next you will be siding with the Christian
fundamentalists that say atheists hate America.
Fanatics that equate "critical of Israel - critical of Judaism" are
the worst kind of fundamentalist wackos -- they damage the religion,
and the country.
> [ as a cover up for their Anti semitism ] use this kind of
> examples or arguments, We don`t need your comments about Holocaust,
Yes, you do. Fanatics like you, Deborah, and Measures need to be told
that you desparage the memory of holocaust victims when you try to use
"anti-Semitism" as a crutch for a political movement that has nothing
to do with Judaism.
> It is People like YOU Speaking against JEWS , who are making a mockery
> of Human rigths ,
I support human rights as a basic right. Measures, Deborah, and Susan
all refused to agree, however, with this simple question:
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
How about you? Are you willing to support basic human rights by
affirming those questions?
Just as importantly, are you against genocide?
> Basic Human Rights teach Not to Incite against
> Others , something which you do ALL THE TIME .
You are lying, Gary. And violating The Law.
>
> mirjam
mir...@actcom.co.il
This is antisemitic , >
> > "I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
>
> Adolf Eichmann, like Deborah, also refused to condemn genocide.
mirjam
�R. L. Measures
<8369cb4d-66a4-41c8...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 1:39=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > In article
>
> <snip>
> > > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rig=
> hts
> > > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =3DA0When you attach the re=
> ckless
> > > > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecuti=
> on
> > > > > and bigotry. =3DA0You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semi=
> te" as
> > > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> >
> > > > ** =3DA0chortle
> >
> > > By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> > > "anti-Semitic."
> >
> > ** =A0I'm chortling at the meshuggah stuff you come up with.
>
> Are you saying you *support* and defend genocide, and that because I
> universally and un-conditionally condemn genocide you think I'm "anti-
> Semitic" and post "meshuggah stuff?"
>
** I think you are anti-Kike because of what you write.
Gary Renzetti
Well Mirjam, Even Eichmann didn't as far as I know post "recipes"
suggesting eating children, unlike the disgusting Shoveari creature.
Here, let me show you:
This Is How Violent Zionists Are: Zionist, Cannibalistic "Recipe":
http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/
Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200,
"Heinrich"<Heinr...@mailgate.org>wrote:
> As usual, you left out the part about the IDF
> eating their palestinian prey after they kill them.
> It's the reason the dead palestinian numbers
> are so low and the missing count is so high.
Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.
Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid
8 small sage leaves
1 Palestinian Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped
Divide the sage leaves into equal portions
and dress the kid.
In a large flameproof casserole,
melt the fat over a high flame.
Brown the kid in the melted fat,
and then remove and reduce the flame.
Add the onion, carrot and turnip,
cover and let simmer for an hour.
Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider.
Bring to a boil, add the bouquet garni,
cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2 hours.
Remove the kid from the casserole
and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole,
pressing down on the vegetables
to squeeze out the liquids.
Place the kid on a warmed serving platter,
pour over some of the juices
and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.
Serves lots of Pallies.
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
>
>
>
> Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 31, 1:39=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > In article
>
> > <snip>
> > > > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rig=
> > hts
> > > > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =3DA0When you attach the re=
> > ckless
> > > > > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> > > > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecuti=
> > on
> > > > > > and bigotry. =3DA0You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semi=
> > te" as
> > > > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
>
> > > > > ** =3DA0chortle
>
> > > > By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> > > > "anti-Semitic."
>
> > > ** =A0I'm chortling at the meshuggah stuff you come up with.
>
> > Are you saying you *support* and defend genocide, and that because I
> > universally and un-conditionally condemn genocide you think I'm "anti-
> > Semitic" and post "meshuggah stuff?"
>
> ** I think you are anti-Kike because of what you write.
Measures, you ignored the question (again).
Are you saying you *support* and defend genocide, and that because I
universally and unconditionally condemn genocide you think I'm "anti-
Semitic" and post "meshuggah stuff?"
Personally, I think it's anti-Semitic to (as you do) say it's anti-
Semitic to advocate for human rights.
>
> --
> R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org
Duwaynea Anderson
Deborah is no Jew.
As for anti-Semitism, there are many ways to demonstrate hatred toward
Judaism. Here are a few:
1) Equating support for basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
2) Equating opposition to genocide with anti-Semitism
3) Equating criticism of Israel with criticism of Judaism
4) Trying to hijack the label "anti-Semite" for a radical political
agenda
I've seen a lot of anti-Semitism in this thread.
>
> mirjam
American Eagle
This is a great byline.
>
>
>
>
>> mirjam
>
mir...@actcom.co.il
> As for anti-Semitism, there are many ways to demonstrate hatred toward
> Judaism. Here are a few:
day .
mirjam
Hermann
One could never hate you, Mirjam. Most of us feel sorry for you.
Your allusions about life is a self made punishment.
>
>
mir...@actcom.co.il
I wanted some Humour reading with my `Coffee break` , and you just
provided it.
hahahahhah . mirjam
�R. L. Measures
<ae885505-fc72-47d3...@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 1, 5:06=A0pm, r...@somis.org ( R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <8369cb4d-66a4-41c8-abec-9435a2ef1...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On May 31, 1:39=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > > In article
> >
> > > <snip>
> > > > > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human=
> rig=3D
> > > hts
> > > > > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =3D3DA0When you attach =
> the re=3D
> > > ckless
> > > > > > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genoc=
> ide,
> > > > > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under perse=
> cuti=3D
> > > on
> > > > > > > and bigotry. =3D3DA0You really should be ashamed for using "ant=
> i-Semi=3D
> > > te" as
> > > > > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> >
> > > > > > ** =3D3DA0chortle
> >
> > > > > By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> > > > > "anti-Semitic."
> >
> > > > ** =3DA0I'm chortling at the meshuggah stuff you come up with.
> >
> > > Are you saying you *support* and defend genocide, and that because I
> > > universally and un-conditionally condemn genocide you think I'm "anti-
> > > Semitic" and post "meshuggah stuff?"
> >
> > ** I think you are anti-Kike because of what you write.
>
> Measures, you ignored the question (again).
** clue-challenged
>
> Are you saying you *support* and defend genocide, and that because I
> universally and unconditionally condemn genocide you think I'm "anti-
> Semitic" and post "meshuggah stuff?"
>
> Personally, I think it's anti-Semitic to (as you do) say it's anti-
> Semitic to advocate for human rights.
>
** the rub is that you advocate for human rights for terrorists.
�R. L. Measures
<c5239383-2722-4c5c...@t21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> Mr Duwaynea,,, you write
> > As for anti-Semitism, there are many ways to demonstrate hatred toward
> > Judaism. =A0Here are a few:
> And in the Last Month + you have demonstrated How you do it , every
> day .
> mirjam
** Some days he demonstrated it several times.
Duwaynea Anderson
You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
basic human rights with anti-Semitism. You're also wrong if you think
it's anti-Semitic to equate opposition to genocide with anti-Semitism.
Duwaynea Anderson
Here's what I advocate, Measures. It's in these questions you refuse
to answer:
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
Since you think the notion of being *born* with basic human rights
equates to advocating for "terrorists," perhaps you would be so kind
as to tell us which people you think have "terrorist" babies.
>
> --
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�R. L. Measures
<8d55780f-0267-4aba...@r16g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 2, 4:21=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <ae885505-fc72-47d3-9d17-3c85faadc...@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 1, 5:06=3DA0pm, r...@somis.org ( R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <8369cb4d-66a4-41c8-abec-9435a2ef1...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On May 31, 1:39=3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D95R. L. Measures) wr=
> ote:
> > > > > > In article
> >
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-h=
> uman=3D
> > > =A0rig=3D3D
> > > > > hts
> > > > > > > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =3D3D3DA0When you a=
> ttach =3D
> > > the re=3D3D
> > > > > ckless
> > > > > > > > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-g=
> enoc=3D
> > > ide,
> > > > > > > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under p=
> erse=3D
> > > cuti=3D3D
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > and bigotry. =3D3D3DA0You really should be ashamed for usin=
> g "ant=3D
> > > i-Semi=3D3D
> > > > > te" as
> > > > > > > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> >
> > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3DA0chortle
> >
> > > > > > > By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation=
> of
> > > > > > > "anti-Semitic."
> >
> > > > > > ** =3D3DA0I'm chortling at the meshuggah stuff you come up with.
> >
> > > > > Are you saying you *support* and defend genocide, and that because =
> I
> > > > > universally and un-conditionally condemn genocide you think I'm "an=
> ti-
> > > > > Semitic" and post "meshuggah stuff?"
> >
> > > > ** I think you are anti-Kike because of what you write.
> >
> > > Measures, you ignored the question (again).
> >
> > ** =A0clue-challenged
> >
> > > Are you saying you *support* and defend genocide, and that because I
> > > universally and unconditionally condemn genocide you think I'm "anti-
> > > Semitic" and post "meshuggah stuff?"
> >
> > > Personally, I think it's anti-Semitic to (as you do) say it's anti-
> > > Semitic to advocate for human rights.
> >
> > ** =A0the rub is that you advocate for human rights for terrorists.
>
> Here's what I advocate, Measures. It's in these questions you refuse
> to answer:
>
> 1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
> certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
> to personal freedom/self determination?
>
> 2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
>
> http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
>
> Since you think the notion of being *born* with basic human rights
> equates to advocating for "terrorists," perhaps you would be so kind
> as to tell us which people you think have "terrorist" babies.
>
** terrorist babies is a new one Duwayne. Since you came up with it, you
tell us.
Duwaynea Anderson
Oh. But we already know why you think that. You explained it all
when I asked this question: "Do you universally and unconditionally
condemn genocide as a crime against humanity?"
Remember your answer? Sure you do. You said "Not in every case."
Then your L'll buddy Michael Ejercito explained that "... in fact, it
is wrong NOT to commit genocide when God tells you to do so."
Here's the link:
�R. L. Measures
<c429ebfb-a1ed-489a...@q2g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 2, 7:03=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <8d55780f-0267-4aba-b695-5b72bd7b0...@r16g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 2, 4:21=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <ae885505-fc72-47d3-9d17-3c85faadc...@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Jun 1, 5:06=3D3DA0pm, r...@somis.org ( R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > > > > In article
> > > > > > <8369cb4d-66a4-41c8-abec-9435a2ef1...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com=
> >,
> >
> > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On May 31, 1:39=3D3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D3D95R. L. Meas=
> ures) wr=3D
> > > ote:
> > > > > > > > In article
> >
> > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider p=
> ro-h=3D
> > > uman=3D3D
> > > > > =3DA0rig=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > hts
> > > > > > > > > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =3D3D3D3DA0When=
> you a=3D
> > > ttach =3D3D
> > > > > the re=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > ckless
> > > > > > > > > > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and an=
> ti-g=3D
> > > enoc=3D3D
> > > > > ide,
> > > > > > > > > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered und=
> er p=3D
> > > erse=3D3D
> > > > > cuti=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > and bigotry. =3D3D3D3DA0You really should be ashamed fo=
> r usin=3D
> > > g "ant=3D3D
> > > > > i-Semi=3D3D3D
> > > > > > > te" as
> > > > > > > > > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3D3DA0chortle
> >
> > > > > > > > > By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusa=
> tion=3D
> > > =A0of
> > > > > > > > > "anti-Semitic."
> >
> > > > > > > > ** =3D3D3DA0I'm chortling at the meshuggah stuff you come up =
> with.
> >
> > > > > > > Are you saying you *support* and defend genocide, and that beca=
> use =3D
> > > I
> > > > > > > universally and un-conditionally condemn genocide you think I'm=
> "an=3D
> > > ti-
> > > > > > > Semitic" and post "meshuggah stuff?"
> >
> > > > > > ** I think you are anti-Kike because of what you write.
> >
> > > > > Measures, you ignored the question (again).
> >
> > > > ** =3DA0clue-challenged
> >
> > > > > Are you saying you *support* and defend genocide, and that because =
> I
> > > > > universally and unconditionally condemn genocide you think I'm "ant=
> i-
> > > > > Semitic" and post "meshuggah stuff?"
> >
> > > > > Personally, I think it's anti-Semitic to (as you do) say it's anti-
> > > > > Semitic to advocate for human rights.
> >
> > > > ** =3DA0the rub is that you advocate for human rights for terrorists.
> >
> > > Here's what I advocate, Measures. =A0It's in these questions you refuse
> > > to answer:
> >
> > > 1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
> > > certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
> > > to personal freedom/self determination?
> >
> > > 2) =A0Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
> >
> > >http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
> >
> > > Since you think the notion of being *born* with basic human rights
> > > equates to advocating for "terrorists," perhaps you would be so kind
> > > as to tell us which people you think have "terrorist" babies.
> >
> > ** =A0terrorist babies is a new one Duwayne. =A0Since you came up with it=
> , you
> > tell us.
>
> Measures, you ignored the question (again)
** the same will eventually happen to you unless you start coming up with
some new material
>
> Since you think the notion of being *born* with basic human rights
> equates to advocating for "terrorists," perhaps you would be so kind
> as to tell us which people you think have "terrorist" babies.
>
** is this some idiotic shit or what?
> Oh. But we already know why you think that. You explained it all
> when I asked this question: "Do you universally and unconditionally
> condemn genocide as a crime against humanity?"
>
> Remember your answer? Sure you do. You said "Not in every case."
>
> Then your L'll buddy Michael Ejercito explained that "... in fact, it
> is wrong NOT to commit genocide when God tells you to do so."
>
> Here's the link:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.mormon/browse_frm/thread/8c4468=
> 218270eff0/d7a506faed5739ba#d7a506faed5739ba
>
>
>
> >
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dsharavi
Typical antisemite's comeback.
Deborah
dsharavi
>>>>Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
>>>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
>>>>against genocide?
>>(•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>>>** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
>>That makes two of you.
>>Deborah
On Jun 1, 12:03 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>Deborah, I still haven't seen
...the light? That's obvious.
>Waiting ...
...to get a clue -- that, too, is obvious, and it appears the wait
will be a long one.
Deborah
dsharavi
>>>I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
>>>reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>>>It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
>>>ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
>>>(which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
>>>is anti-Semitic.
>>>Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
>>>accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
>>>you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
>>>a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
>>Adolf Eichmann was another who claimed he wasn't an antisemite.
>Adolf Eichmann (apparenlty like you) was unwilling to universally and
>unequivocally condemn genocide.
What do you think of these two examples?
Example #1:
"On November 19, 1835, a British ship carrying 500 Māori armed with
guns, clubs and axes arrived, followed by another ship on December 5,
1835 with a further 400 Māori. They proceeded to massacre the Moriori
and enslave the survivors. A Moriori survivor recalled: "[The Māori]
commenced to kill us like sheep.... [We] were terrified, fled to the
bush, concealed ourselves in holes underground, and in any place to
escape our enemies. It was of no avail; we were discovered and killed
- men, women and children indiscriminately". A Māori conqueror
justified their actions as follows: "We took possession... in
accordance with our customs and we caught all the people. Not one
escaped....."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatham_Islands
Example #2:
"Tainos from South America had settled in Jamaica at around 1,000 BC
and called the land Xamayca, meaning "a land of wood and water". After
Christopher Columbus' arrival in 1494, Spain claimed the island and
began occupation in 1509, naming the island Santiago (St. James). The
Arawaks were exterminated by the Spanish."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jamaica
Those are only two examples of many. The common to these two examples
is peaceful islands, with no history of warfare, left unprepared to
deal with an invading force with better technology. It's different
than the Middle East where everybody has had fought each other for the
last 6,000 years and there is usually a pretext of previous war(s) to
justify the genocide. Most people have problems dealing
with these examples, even though they are well documented. (E.g. none
of Jamaica's original population survived.)
What do you think of that, Duwayne? Let's see you, once again, put
that incisive mind of yours yo this knotty question, and, as usual,
arrive at the wrong answer.
>>Duwayne Anderson, on guard defending human rights:
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s&feature=related
Deborah
�R. L. Measures
<45a6e330-e349-405b...@l32g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
dsharavi <dsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 1, 12:18=A0pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On May 31, 1:44 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that ca=
> n
> > > > > > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
> >
> > > > > > It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race=
> /
> > > > > > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rig=
> hts
> > > > > > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures t=
> hinks
> > > > > > is anti-Semitic.
> >
> > > > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human r=
> ights
> > > > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." =A0When you attach the re=
> ckless
> > > > > > accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocid=
> e,
> > > > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecu=
> tion
> > > > > > and bigotry. =A0You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semi=
> te" as
> > > > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> > > > On May 30, 8:30 pm, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > > > ** =A0chortle
> >
> > > On May 30, 9:41 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> > > > "anti-Semitic."
> >
> > > "I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
> >
> > Adolf Eichmann, like Deborah, also refused to condemn genocide.
> >
> >
> >
> > > =93Jews are wonderful people, as are Palestinians. =A0They have a
> > > wonderful
> > > history and tradition. =A0I even find many of their religious tradition=
> s
> > > refreshing -- and I'm an atheist.=94
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 7 May 2009 19:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > Deborah, would you explain why you think is "anti-Semitic=94 to describe
> > Jews as =93wonderful people with a wonderful history and tradition?=94
> >
> > > =A0=93Susan also provided this quote of mine:
> > > Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
> > > their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
> > > can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
> > > of Gaza really belongs to Israel?"
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Mon, 11 May 2009 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > Deborah, would you find the word "Jew" in that sentence?
> >
> > You wouldn't be a fanatical Zionist that equates Israel with Judaism,
> > would you?
> >
> > > =93Susan's religion is vile=94
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > You think that Susan is Judaism? =A0My! =A0You really are a fanatic.
> >
> >
> >
> > > =93I said Susan's religous beliefs are vile.=94
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > Susan is not Jewish.
> >
> >
> >
> > > =93Susan is lying -- and violating The Law. I didn't say "Judaism is
> > > vile." Your bastardized religion is certainly "vile" but you don't
> > > define Judaism. You are to Judaism what Taliban is to Islam: a
> > > fanatice that destroys the good in the religon to spread your message
> > > of hate.=94
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > Do you even bother to read these quotations, Deborah? =A0Here I am, on
> > record, saying *good* things about Judaism -- and you think that is
> > "anti-Semitic?"
> >
> > You are not Jewish. =A0You don't follow Judaism. =A0Your bastardized
> > religion is vile. =A0But that's got nothing to do with Judaism. =A0Like
> > any fanatic, you are simply trying to hijack a great religion for your
> > personal fanatical aspirations.
> >
> > > =A0=93Saying that Israel does vile things is not the same as saying tha=
> t
> > > =A0Judaism is vile; Judaism is a religion, not a country. Your religion
> > > is not Judaism. You are to Judaism as Pat Roberts is to
> > > Christianity. You are to Judaism as the Taliban is to Islam.=94
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > As if to prove the point, Deborah does it again. =A0Provides a quotation
> > showing her personal fanatacism, and nothing that is "anti-Semitic."
> >
> >
> >
> > > =A0=93Susan is lying again. I've never called Judaism "vile." I have
> > > =A0called Susan's bastardized religion (which is *not* true Judiasm)
> > > =A0vile.=94
> > > =A0Duwaynea Anderson,Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > The fact your religion (which is not Judaism) is vile, Deborah, is
> > clearly illustrated by the way you refuse to condemn genocide.
> >
> > > =93I wonder if she got the motivation for her genocidal hatred from
> > > Moses? =93
> >
> > Young-earth creationists got their motivation from Moses, too. =A0Do you
> > think it=92s =93anti-Semitic=94 to study geology?
> >
> > > Duwaynea Anderson, Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:03:43 -0800 (PST)
>
> Typical antisemite's comeback.
>
> Deborah
>
** Duwayne was trapped by what he wrote.
Duwaynea Anderson
> >>>Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> >>>>Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> >>>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> >>>>against genocide?
> >>(•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> >>>** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
> >>That makes two of you.
> >>Deborah
>
> On Jun 1, 12:03 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>
> >Deborah, I still haven't seen
>
> ...the light? That's obvious.
You ignored the question, Deborah.
Let’s ask it again: Do you universally and unequivocally condemn
genocide as a crime against humanity?
Any moral/ethical person would. Why won’t you?
Duwaynea Anderson
> >>Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> >>>I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> >>>reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
> >>>It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race/
> >>>ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> >>>(which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> >>>is anti-Semitic.
> >>>Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> >>>and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> >>>accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
> >>>you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> >>>and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> >>>a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> >>Adolf Eichmann was another who claimed he wasn't an antisemite.
> >Adolf Eichmann (apparenlty like you) was unwilling to universally and
> >unequivocally condemn genocide.
>
> What do you think of these two examples?
>
> Example #1:
>
> guns, clubs and axes arrived, followed by another ship on December 5,
> and enslave the survivors. A Moriori survivor recalled: "[The Mâori]
> commenced to kill us like sheep.... [We] were terrified, fled to the
> bush, concealed ourselves in holes underground, and in any place to
> escape our enemies. It was of no avail; we were discovered and killed
> justified their actions as follows: "We took possession... in
> accordance with our customs and we caught all the people. Not one
> escaped....."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatham_Islands
>
> Example #2:
>
> "Tainos from South America had settled in Jamaica at around 1,000 BC
> and called the land Xamayca, meaning "a land of wood and water". After
> Christopher Columbus' arrival in 1494, Spain claimed the island and
> began occupation in 1509, naming the island Santiago (St. James). The
> Arawaks were exterminated by the Spanish."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jamaica
>
> Those are only two examples of many. The common to these two examples
> is peaceful islands, with no history of warfare, left unprepared to
> deal with an invading force with better technology. It's different
> than the Middle East where everybody has had fought each other for the
> last 6,000 years and there is usually a pretext of previous war(s) to
> justify the genocide. Most people have problems dealing
> with these examples, even though they are well documented. (E.g. none
> of Jamaica's original population survived.)
>
> What do you think of that, Duwayne? Let's see you, once again, put
> that incisive mind of yours yo this knotty question, and, as usual,
> arrive at the wrong answer.
I universally and unconditionally condemn genocide. No exceptions.
Any moral/ethical person would, Deborah.
Why won't you?
>
> >>Duwayne Anderson, on guard defending human rights:
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lUjhEHlh7s&feature=related
>
Duwaynea Anderson
Yes, it is. But remember, it comes as a result of your position.
After all, Measures, you are the person that says the notion of
natural rights -- rights we are born with -- are a "cover" for
"terrorists."
Of course you also think there are times when genocide is justifiable.
With regard to the question "Do you universally and unconditionally
condemn genocide as a crime against humanity" here are the answers:
1) R. L. Measures, "Not in every case."
2) Michael Ejercito, "... NOT .... when God orders genocide; in fact,
it is wrong NOT to commit genocide when God tells you to do so."
These two shining examples of ethics/morality made those astounding
statements in the thread "Now kill all the boys," on June 2, 2009.
How amazing the evil that religious fanaticism wreaks on the hearts of
men.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Oh. But we already know why you think that. You explained it all
> > when I asked this question: "Do you universally and unconditionally
> > condemn genocide as a crime against humanity?"
>
> > Remember your answer? Sure you do. You said "Not in every case."
>
> > Then your L'll buddy Michael Ejercito explained that "... in fact, it
> > is wrong NOT to commit genocide when God tells you to do so."
>
> > Here's the link:
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.mormon/browse_frm/thread/...
> > 218270eff0/d7a506faed5739ba#d7a506faed5739ba
>
> > > --
> > > R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org-Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> --
> R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
dsharavi
> > > > > > > I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
> > > > > > > reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
> > > > > > > ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
> > > > > > > (which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
> > > > > > > is anti-Semitic.
> > > > > > > Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
> > > > > > > and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
> > > > > > > you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
> > > > > > > and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
> > > > > > > a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
> > > > >R. L. Measures wrote:
> > > > > > **chortle
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> > > > > By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
> > > > > "anti-Semitic."
> > > On May 31, 1:44 am, dsharavi wrote:
> > > > "I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
> > On Jun 1, 12:18 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> > > Adolf Eichmann, like Deborah, also refused to condemn genocide.
> > > >”Jews are wonderful people, as are Palestinians. They have a
> > > > wonderful
> > > > history and tradition. I even find many of their religious traditions
> > > > refreshing -- and I'm an atheist.”
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 7 May 2009 19:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Deborah, would you explain why you think is "anti-Semitic” to describe
> > > Jews as "wonderful people with a wonderful history and tradition?”
> > > > "Susan also provided this quote of mine:
> > > > Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
> > > > their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
> > > > can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
> > > > of Gaza really belongs to Israel?"
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Mon, 11 May 2009 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Deborah, would you find the word "Jew" in that sentence?
> > > You wouldn't be a fanatical Zionist that equates Israel with Judaism,
> > > would you?
> > > > "Susan's religion is vile"
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
> > > You think that Susan is Judaism? My! You really are a fanatic.
> > > > "I said Susan's religous beliefs are vile."
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Susan is not Jewish.
> > > > "Susan is lying -- and violating The Law. I didn't say "Judaism is
> > > > vile." Your bastardized religion is certainly "vile" but you don't
> > > > define Judaism. You are to Judaism what Taliban is to Islam: a
> > > > fanatice that destroys the good in the religon to spread your message
> > > > of hate."
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Do you even bother to read these quotations, Deborah? Here I am, on
> > > record, saying *good* things about Judaism -- and you think that is
> > > "anti-Semitic?"
> > > You are not Jewish. You don't follow Judaism. Your bastardized
> > > religion is vile. But that's got nothing to do with Judaism. Like
> > > any fanatic, you are simply trying to hijack a great religion for your
> > > personal fanatical aspirations.
> > > > "Saying that Israel does vile things is not the same as saying that
> > > > Judaism is vile; Judaism is a religion, not a country. Your religion
> > > > is not Judaism. You are to Judaism as Pat Roberts is to
> > > > Christianity. You are to Judaism as the Taliban is to Islam."
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > > As if to prove the point, Deborah does it again. Provides a quotation
> > > showing her personal fanatacism, and nothing that is "anti-Semitic."
> > > > "Susan is lying again. I've never called Judaism "vile." I have
> > > > called Susan's bastardized religion (which is *not* true Judiasm)
> > > > vile."
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson,Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
> > > The fact your religion (which is not Judaism) is vile, Deborah, is
> > > clearly illustrated by the way you refuse to condemn genocide.
> > > > "I wonder if she got the motivation for her genocidal hatred from
> > > > Moses? "
> > > Young-earth creationists got their motivation from Moses, too. Do you
> > > think it's "anti-Semitic" to study geology?
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson, Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:03:43 -0800 (PST)
> dsharavi wrote:
> > Typical antisemite's comeback.
> > Deborah
On Jun 3, 2:48 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> ** Duwayne was trapped by what he wrote.
And he parrots it so often. So eager is he to parrot his own
jabberings, he often mistakes the poster to whom he's ostensibly
addressing them. Do you think this might be a lingering aftereffect
from his long years of peddling religion?
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
>
> - Show quoted text -
Deborah, why do you refuse to universally and unconditionally condemn
genocide?
Would you commit genocide if god told you?
Duwaynea Anderson
Deborah, why won't you condemn genocide?
I asked if you universally and unconditionally condemn genocide.
No answer.
I've asked if you would commit genocide if god told you to.
No answer.
fla...@verizon.net
On 1-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 12:58�am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> > >>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> > >>against genocide?
> >
> > On May 29, 8:52 am, r...@somis.org (�R. L. Measures) wrote:
> >
> > > ** �I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
> >
> > That makes two of you.
> >
> > Deborah
>
> Deborah, I still haven't seen an answer from you with regard to
> genocide.
And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed, and he
pretends he has the right to projwect it onto the Jew who exposed it.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 1-Jun-2009, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> Duwaynea
> This is antisemitic , >
> > > "I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
> >
> > Adolf Eichmann, like Deborah, also refused to condemn genocide.
> To throw this Horrid name and compare it to any Jew ,,,
Especially in the context f his constant lie - that's DuWayne's Jew-hatred
in a nutshell.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 2-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 1, 8:24�pm, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> > Mr Duwaynea,,, you write> As for anti-Semitism, there are many ways to
> > demonstrate hatred toward
> > > Judaism. �Here are a few:
> >
> > And in the Last Month + you have demonstrated How you do it , every
> > day .
> > mirjam
>
> You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
> basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 1-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 31, 12:58 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> > > >>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> > > >>against genocide?
>
> > > On May 29, 8:52 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>
> > > > ** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
>
> > > That makes two of you.
>
> > > Deborah
>
> > Deborah, I still haven't seen an answer from you with regard to
> > genocide.
>
> And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
1) Do you universally and unconditionally condemn genocide as a crime
against humanity?
2) If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
It does take a bigot to (as you and Deborah have done) ignore them and
refuse to answer them.
> and he
> pretends he has the right to projwect it onto the Jew who exposed it.
>
> Susan- Hide quoted text -
dsharavi
>>>>>>>>>I challenge you to provide a verifiable quotation of mine that can
>>>>>>>>>reasonably be construed as "anti-Semitic."
>>>>>>>>>It's easy enough for anyone to see that my position has been race /
>>>>>>>>>ethnic neutral, and is one based on universal and basic human rights
>>>>>>>>>(which Measures objects to) and anti-genocide -- which Measures thinks
>>>>>>>>>is anti-Semitic.
>>>>>>>>>Measure, it's simply reprehensible of you to consider pro-human rights
>>>>>>>>>and anti-genocide to be "anti-Semitic." When you attach the reckless
>>>>>>>>>accusation of "anti-Semite" to pro-human rights, and anti-genocide,
>>>>>>>>>you are making a mockery of Jews that have suffered under persecution
>>>>>>>>>and bigotry. You really should be ashamed for using "anti-Semite" as
>>>>>>>>>a propaganda ploy for advancing your radical Zionism.
.
>>>>>>>R. L. Measures wrote:
>>>>>>>>**chortle
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>>>>>By "chortle" you clearly mean you can't support your accusation of
>>>>>>>"anti-Semitic."
>>>>>On May 31, 1:44 am, dsharavi wrote:
>>>>>>"I'm no Anti-Semite." Adolf Eichmann, December 1961
>>>>On Jun 1, 12:18 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>>>Adolf Eichmann, like Deborah, also refused to condemn genocide.
.
>>>>>>”Jews are wonderful people, as are Palestinians. They have a
>>>>>>wonderful
>>>>>>history and tradition. I even find many of their religious traditions
>>>>>>refreshing -- and I'm an atheist.”
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 7 May 2009 19:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>Deborah, would you explain why you think is "anti-Semitic” to describe
>>>>>Jews as "wonderful people with a wonderful history and tradition?”
>>>>>>"Susan also provided this quote of mine:
>>>>>>Do you think the evil and vile things that Israel does is a result of
>>>>>>their religion and thinking they are God's chosen people and therefore
>>>>>>can do no wrong, or a culture of entitlement where they think the land
>>>>>>of Gaza really belongs to Israel?"
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Mon, 11 May 2009 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>Deborah, would you find the word "Jew" in that sentence?
>>>>>You wouldn't be a fanatical Zionist that equates Israel with Judaism,
>>>>>would you?
>>>>>>"Susan's religion is vile"
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>You think that Susan is Judaism? My! You really are a fanatic.
.
>>>>>>"I said Susan's religous beliefs are vile."
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Tue, 5 May 2009 20:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>Susan is not Jewish.
.
>>>>>>"Susan is lying -- and violating The Law. I didn't say "Judaism is
>>>>>>vile." Your bastardized religion is certainly "vile" but you don't
>>>>>>define Judaism. You are to Judaism what Taliban is to Islam: a
>>>>>>fanatice that destroys the good in the religon to spread your message
>>>>>>of hate."
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>Do you even bother to read these quotations, Deborah? Here I am, on
>>>>>record, saying *good* things about Judaism -- and you think that is
>>>>>"anti-Semitic?"
>>>>>You are not Jewish. You don't follow Judaism. Your bastardized
>>>>>religion is vile. But that's got nothing to do with Judaism. Like
>>>>>any fanatic, you are simply trying to hijack a great religion for your
>>>>>personal fanatical aspirations.
.
>>>>>>"Saying that Israel does vile things is not the same as saying that
>>>>>>Judaism is vile; Judaism is a religion, not a country. Your religion
>>>>>>is not Judaism. You are to Judaism as Pat Roberts is to
>>>>>>Christianity. You are to Judaism as the Taliban is to Islam."
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>As if to prove the point, Deborah does it again. Provides a quotation
>>>>>showing her personal fanatacism, and nothing that is "anti-Semitic."
>>>>>>"Susan is lying again. I've never called Judaism "vile." I have
>>>>>>called Susan's bastardized religion (which is *not* true Judiasm)
>>>>>>vile."
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson,Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>The fact your religion (which is not Judaism) is vile, Deborah, is
>>>>>clearly illustrated by the way you refuse to condemn genocide.
.
>>>>>>"I wonder if she got the motivation for her genocidal hatred from
>>>>>>Moses? "
>>>>>Young-earth creationists got their motivation from Moses, too. Do you
>>>>>think it's "anti-Semitic" to study geology?
>>>>>>Duwaynea Anderson, Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:03:43 -0800 (PST)
>>>dsharavi wrote:
>>>>Typical antisemite's comeback.
>>>>Deborah
>
>>On Jun 3, 2:48 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>>>** Duwayne was trapped by what he wrote.
> On Jun 3, 9:47 am, dsharavi wrote:
>>And he parrots it so often. So eager is he to parrot his own
>>jabberings, he often mistakes the poster to whom he's ostensibly
>>addressing them. Do you think this might be a lingering aftereffect
>>from his long years of peddling religion?
>>Deborah
On Jun 3, 3:40 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Deborah, why do you refuse to universally and unconditionally condemn
>genocide?
Duwayne, why do you continuously refuse to answer the question whether
you believe your habit of parroting questions is a lingering
aftereffect from your long years of being a door-to-door religion-
monger?
>Would you commit genocide if god told you?
Why would I? What do you think would happen if I refused? Would I go
to hell?
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
That makes no sense.
>
> >Would you commit genocide if god told you?
>
> Why would I?
You ignored the question.
If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
> What do you think would happen if I refused?
More to the point, what do *you* think would happen if god told you to
commit genocide, and you refused?
> Would I go
> to hell?
Does you god send people there if he tells them to commit genocide,
and they refuse?
dsharavi
> > >>>>Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> > >>>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> > >>>>against genocide?
> > >>(•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > >>>** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
.
> > >>That makes two of you.
> > >>Deborah
>
> > On Jun 1, 12:03 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> > >Deborah, I still haven't seen
>
> > ...the light? That's obvious.
>
> > >Waiting ...
>
> > ...to get a clue -- that, too, is obvious, and it appears the wait
> > will be a long one.
> > Deborah
>
> > Deborah, why won't
....you get a clue? Search me.
> I asked if you
...believe this represents your stance on human rights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
or if this represents your stance on human rights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
> No answer.
Well, I haven't yet decided whether this is where you're coming from:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
or whether you incline more to this position:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
I tend to think it's probably this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
What do you think, Duwayne?
> I've asked if you would commit genocide if god told you to.
>No answer.
Stop lying, Duwayne. I answered your idiotic question. Twice already.
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
> > > >>>Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> > > >>>>Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> > > >>>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> > > >>>>against genocide?
> .
> > > >>(•R. L. Measures) wrote:
> > > >>>** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
> .
> > > >>That makes two of you.
> > > >>Deborah
>
> > > On Jun 1, 12:03 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
> > > >Deborah, I still haven't seen
>
> > > ...the light? That's obvious.
>
> > > >Waiting ...
>
> > > ...to get a clue -- that, too, is obvious, and it appears the wait
> > > will be a long one.
> > > Deborah
>
> On Jun 3, 3:51 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>
> > > Deborah, why won't
>
> ....you get a clue? Search me.
>
> > I asked if you
Ooops. Deborah snipped the question again.
Deborah, if god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
>
> ...believe this represents your stance on human rights:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
> or if this represents your stance on human rights:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
> > No answer.
>
> Well, I haven't yet decided whether this is where you're coming from:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
> or whether you incline more to this position:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
> I tend to think it's probably this one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
> What do you think, Duwayne?
>
> > I've asked if you would commit genocide if god told you to.
> >No answer.
>
> Stop lying, Duwayne. I answered your idiotic question. Twice already.
>
Duwaynea Anderson
Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan. Please identify
the "projected bigotry" in these questions:
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
3) Do Jews have the right to live?
4) Do Palestinians have the right to live?
5) Do Jews have the right to self determination?
6) Do Palestinians have the right to self determination?
7) Do you unconditionally condemn genocide?
8) If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
Why have these questions caused you so much trouble?
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 8:41�pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On �1-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On May 31, 12:58�am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> > > > >>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> > > > >>against genocide?
> >
> > > > On May 29, 8:52 am, r...@somis.org (�R. L. Measures) wrote:
> >
> > > > > ** �I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
> >
> > > > That makes two of you.
> >
> > > > Deborah
> >
> > > Deborah, I still haven't seen an answer from you with regard to
> > > genocide.
> >
> > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
>
> It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions" rather than
a bad projecting of his bigotry onto those who expose it.
You deliberately sidestepped your own bigotry & launched
right into the attack of those pretended "questions" that you
had no right to pretend even needed to be asked - as always.
The only bigotry evinced was yours - as always.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 8:42�pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On �2-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Jun 1, 8:24�pm, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> > > > Mr Duwaynea,,, you write> As for anti-Semitism, there are many ways
> > > > to
> > > > demonstrate hatred toward
> > > > > Judaism. �Here are a few:
> >
> > > > And in the Last Month + you have demonstrated How you do it , every
> > > > day .
> > > > mirjam
> >
> > > You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
> > > basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
> >
> > You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
> > your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
> >
> > Susan
>
> Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan.
Dodge noted - AGAIN.
Asked & answered - even tho' you had no right to ever
ask them in the first place & refused to acknowledge
not just that, but that they have *been* answered.
You are still upset that my answer did not kowtow to
you bigotry, but indicted you as you deserved.
Susan
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 3, 8:41 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > On 1-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 31, 12:58 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
> > > > > >>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
> > > > > >>against genocide?
>
> > > > > On May 29, 8:52 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>
> > > > > > ** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
>
> > > > > That makes two of you.
>
> > > > > Deborah
>
> > > > Deborah, I still haven't seen an answer from you with regard to
> > > > genocide.
>
> > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
>
> > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
>
> It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
They're questions designed to stump bigots. And they've done that
nicely.
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the
right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
And why have you also ignored these questions?
1) Do you universally and unconditionally condemn genocide as a
crime
against humanity?
2) If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
> rather than
> a bad projecting of his bigotry onto those who expose it.
>
> You deliberately sidestepped your own bigotry & launched
> right into the attack of those pretended "questions" that you
> had no right to pretend even needed to be asked - as always.
> The only bigotry evinced was yours - as always.
>
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 3, 8:42 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > On 2-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 1, 8:24 pm, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> > > > > Mr Duwaynea,,, you write> As for anti-Semitism, there are many ways
> > > > > to
> > > > > demonstrate hatred toward
> > > > > > Judaism. Here are a few:
>
> > > > > And in the Last Month + you have demonstrated How you do it , every
> > > > > day .
> > > > > mirjam
>
> > > > You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
> > > > basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
>
> > > You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
> > > your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
>
> > > Susan
>
> > Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan.
>
> Dodge noted - AGAIN.
Thanks for confessing. Now, about those questions -- through dodging
them, yet? Here they are once more:
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the
right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
And why have you also ignored these questions?
1) Do you universally and unconditionally condemn genocide as a
crime
against humanity?
2) If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
>
> Asked & answered
You keep asserting that -- but you refuse to post the link where you
"answered" them (wink, wink) or repeat the answer.
Of course, that's exactly what we'd expect if you were just lying
about having answered the questions.
>- even tho' you had no right to ever
> ask them in the first place & refused to acknowledge
> not just that, but that they have *been* answered.
> You are still upset that my answer did not kowtow to
> you bigotry, but indicted you as you deserved.
>
dsharavi
<DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>wrote:
>That makes no sense.
It makes perfect sense to anyone who has been pestered by
proselytizers (door-to-door religion-
mongers) over the years. You were one yourself for a decade, moving
your family from state to state so that you could peddle your former
religion --until you got atheism and became a born again atheist that
is. And on nothing more than the basis of a verse you misread, from
scriptures with whose traditions and scholarship you were, and remain,
totally ignorant.
>>>Would you commit genocide if god told you?
>
>>Why would I?
>
>You ignored the question.
Responding to a question with a question is not ignoring the first
question. Even you should be able to figure that out. Speaking of
ignoring questions, why do you keep ignoring the question whether
you'd tell your "god" to fuck himself, if your "god" commanded you to
stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
her gymnastic meets, and start boinking her instead? (Assuming you
haven't been fantasizing about it.)
.
>If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
Already answered. The question which you keep ignoring:
If your god commanded you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck himself, and start
boinking her instead? Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it?
Have you done a bit more than merely fantasize about it?
>>What do you think would happen if I refused?
>
>More to the point, what do *you* think would happen if god told you to
>commit genocide, and you refused?
You're the one who brought up the question, you tell me what would
happen.
>
>>Would I go to hell?
>
>Does you god send people there if he tells them to commit genocide,
>and they refuse?
I rather doubt it. Here's another question you've been ignoring,
Duwayne: Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and
Laura, too -- suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for
indecent exposure on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
Explain.
<snip>
> >You ignored the question.
>
> Responding to a question with a question is not ignoring the first
> question.
Sure it is. I'll ask it for you again:
If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
> Even you should be able to figure that out. Speaking of
> ignoring questions, why do you keep ignoring the question whether
> you'd tell your "god" to fuck himself, if your "god" commanded you to
> stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
> her gymnastic meets, and start boinking her instead? (Assuming you
> haven't been fantasizing about it.)
Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
that's never been done?
But you never said it was "impossible" for your god to ask you to
commit genocide. You never said it's something that he/she/it would
absolutely never do. You just said it was unlikely.
But something that's unlikely is still possible (unlike the bogus
sexual fantasy that you tried to make into a question).
So, since it's "possible" that you god might ask you to commit
genocide, I think you should explain whether or not you would obey
your evil god.
If your god told you to pick up a hatchet and kill all the boys that
had recently been taken prisoners of war in a battle, would you do it?
Of course there's little question regarding the answer to that
question. Of course you would. That's why you're trying so hard to
dodge and ignore the question. On the one hand you don't want to piss
off this evil god you worship by saying you might disobey a direct
commandment, but on the other hand you don't want to look like a
raving religious fanatic -- which you are.
It's a conundrum. Should you piss off god, or should you give
yourself away?
> >If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
>
> Already answered.
Not with "no."
dsharavi
>>>>>>>>Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
>>>>>>>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
>>>>>>>>against genocide?
.
>>>>>>(•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>>>>>>>** I know nothing about this convention Duwayne.
.
>>>>>>That makes two of you.
>>>>>>Deborah
>
>>>>On Jun 1, 12:03 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>>>Deborah, I still haven't seen
>
>>...the light? That's obvious.
>
>>>>>Waiting ...
>
>>...to get a clue -- that, too, is obvious, and it appears the wait
>>>>will be a long one.
>>>>Deborah
>
>>On Jun 3, 3:51 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>>Deborah, why won't
>
....you get a clue? Search me.
>
>>>I asked if you
On Jun 5, 10:49 am, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>Ooops.
Ooops, gotta restore another of Duwayne's snips:
>>Duwayne wrote:
>>>I asked if you
>>...believe this represents your stance on human rights:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
>>or if this represents your stance on human rights:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
>>>No answer.
>
>>Well, I haven't yet decided whether this is where you're coming from:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
>>or whether you incline more to this position:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
>>I tend to think it's probably this one:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
>>What do you think, Duwayne?
>
>>>I've asked if you would commit genocide if god told you to.
>>>No answer.
>
>>Stop lying, Duwayne. I answered your idiotic question. Twice already.
>>Deborah
>Deborah snipped the question again.
>Deborah, if god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
Stop lying, Duwayne. I answered your idiotic question. Several times
already. Speaking of snipped and ignored questions, here's the
question you keep ignoring and/or snipping, Duwayne:
Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
Here's another question you've keep ignoring and/or snipping,
Duwayne:
If your god commanded you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck himself, and start
boinking her instead? Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it?
Have you done a bit more than merely fantasize about it?
Deborah
Duwaynea Anderson
Deborah thinks this is an "idiotic question:"
Question: If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do
it?
> Several times
> already.
Not with "no."
> Speaking of snipped and ignored questions, here's the
> question you keep ignoring and/or snipping, Duwayne:
>
> Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
> suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
> on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
that's never been done?
But you never said it was "impossible" for your god to ask you to
commit genocide. You never said it's something that he/she/it would
absolutely never do. You just said it was unlikely.
But something that's unlikely is still possible (unlike the bogus
sexual fantasy that you tried to make into a question).
So, since it's "possible" that you god might ask you to commit
genocide, I think you should explain whether or not you would obey
your evil god.
If your god told you to pick up a hatchet and kill all the boys that
had recently been taken prisoners of war in a battle, would you do it?
Of course there's little question regarding the answer to that
question. Of course you would. That's why you're trying so hard to
dodge and ignore the question. On the one hand you don't want to piss
off this evil god you worship by saying you might disobey a direct
commandment, but on the other hand you don't want to look like a
raving religious fanatic -- which you are.
It's a conundrum. Should you piss off god, or should you give
yourself away?
<snip to end>
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
> > > > > basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
> >
> > > > You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
> > > > your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
> >
> > > > Susan
> >
> > > Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan.
> >
> > Dodge noted - AGAIN.
>
> Thanks for confessing.
That you've dodged the fact that you were falsely projecting
your bigory onto those who exposed it? I've done nothing but
point thart out this enture thread. As alays, your deliberate
obtuseness doesn't change that either.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
> >
> > > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
> >
> > It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
>
> They're questions designed to stump bigots.
Except for them not being questions, but rather projections
of your own bigotry onto those who exposed it - as I have
pointed out before. This is proven by your constant &
contrtradictopry lies about the answer you did receive.
Anyone *truly* concerned with human rights would have
*rejoiced* in my answer - but *you* were upset because
what you *wanted* to do was project your bigotry onto me,
not have your own confirmed so irrevocably.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher �-- and Laura, too --
> > suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
> > on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
>
> Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
> that's never been done?
Dodge noted.
No, but you are, when you keep pretending that you
had any reason whatsoever to project your bigotry onto
those who exposed it in the form of those charges
you keep lying about being questions.
Susan
dsharavi
>>>>>>>** Duwayne was trapped by what he wrote.
.
>>>>>On Jun 3, 9:47 am, dsharavi wrote:
>>>>>>And he parrots it so often. So eager is he to parrot his own
>>>>>>jabberings, he often mistakes the poster to whom he's ostensibly
>>>>>>addressing them. Do you think this might be a lingering aftereffect
>>>>>>from his long years of peddling religion?
>>>>>>Deborah
>
>>>>On Jun 3, 3:40 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>Deborah, why do you refuse to universally and unconditionally condemn
>>>>>genocide?
>
>>>On Jun 5, 10:34 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>Duwayne, why do you continuously refuse to answer the question whether
>>>>you believe your habit of parroting questions is a lingering
>>>>aftereffect from your long years of being a door-to-door religion-
>>>>monger?
>
>>On Jun 5, 10:42 am, Duwaynea Anderson
>><DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>That makes no sense.
>On Jun 5, 3:21 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>It makes perfect sense to anyone who has been pestered by
>>proselytizers
>
On Jun 5, 3:26 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>Explain.
><snip>
The explanation is inherent in the part of the statement above, which
you snipped. Here is is again, with your snippage restored: It makes
perfect sense to anyone who has been pestered by proselytizers (door-
to-door religion-
mongers) over the years. You were one yourself for a decade, moving
your family from state to state so that you could peddle your former
religion --until you got atheism and became a born again atheist that
is. And on nothing more than the basis of a verse you misread, from
scriptures with whose traditions and scholarship you were, and remain,
totally ignorant.
If you're too dense to comprehend it, learn to read before snipping,
or ask Chris or Caroline for an explanation.
>>>You ignored the question.
>>Responding to a question with a question is not ignoring the first
>>question.
>Sure it is.
I'll give you an example of why you're wrong, again, which lies in the
question you keep ignoring and/or snipping. The question is you keep
avoiding is:
Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
>I'll ask it for you again:
I'll ask the same question for you again: Did Jacob, Mischael,
Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too -- suffer acute
embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure on the
corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
>If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
Already answered. Several times. Because you're too dense to
comprehend the answer doesn't mean it wasn't answered. And speaking of
repeated questions, I'll repeated another question to keep snipping
and ignoring. Here's that question, Duwayne:
If your god commanded you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck himself, and start
boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it,
or more, already.)
>>Even you should be able to figure that out. Speaking of
>>ignoring questions, why do you keep ignoring the question whether
>>you'd tell your "god" to fuck himself, if your "god" commanded you to
>>stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
>>her gymnastic meets, and start boinking her instead? (Assuming you
>>haven't been fantasizing about it.)
>Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
>that's never been done?
Yes or no, Duwayne. f your god commanded you to stop drooling over
Caroline's snatch at her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck
himself, and start boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been
fantasizing about it, or more, already.)
>But you never said it was "impossible" for your god to ask you to
>commit genocide.
You never said it was impossible for you to stop drooling over
Caroline's snatch at her gymnastic meets, or to stop your fantasizing
about Caroline either.
>You never said it's something that he/she/it would
>absolutely never do. You just said it was unlikely.
You, on the other hand, never said it was unlikely that you've done
more than indulge yourself in fantasies about Caroline. Have you done
more than that, Duwayne?
>But something that's unlikely is still possible
Therefore, it's likely that you've done more than merely fantasize
about Caroline.
>(unlike the bogus
>sexual fantasy that you tried to make into a question).
No sexual fantasy was ever mentioned. Duwayne -- until you just
mentioned it. Therefore, one may rightly assume that that sexual
fantasy you mentioned in connection with Caroline is more than likely
-- and possibly more than a sexual fantasy.
>So, since it's "possible" that you god might ask you to commit
>genocide, I think you should explain whether or not you would obey
>your evil god.
Since it's "possible" that what you have called your sexual fantasy
regarding Caroline may be more than that. I think you'd better
explain your inclinations here. And the evil god is YOURS, Duwayne.
>If your god told you to pick up a hatchet and kill all the boys that
>had recently been taken prisoners of war in a battle, would you do it?
Not at issue. What's at issue is what you've confessed are your sexual
fantasies regarding Caroline, and what you've done to make them more
than your fantasies.
>Of course there's little question regarding the answer to that
>question. Of course you would. That's why you're trying so hard to
>dodge and ignore the question. On the one hand you don't want to piss
>off this evil god you worship by saying you might disobey a direct
>commandment, but on the other hand you don't want to look like a
>raving religious fanatic -- which you are.
Nope. You're the one who dragged your family from state to state while
missionizing for your evil god, Duwayne. Stop trying to scapegoat
others for your own failings.
>It's a conundrum. Should you piss off god, or should you give
>yourself away?
You've done that, quite frequently. You've also failed and refused to
qualify your question, but even so, I answered it. Because you're too
dense, dishonest, and self-delusionary to comprehend it doesn't mean
the question wasn't answered.
>>>If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
>
>>Already answered.
>
>Not with "no."
You also failed and refused to answer with a "no" -- or a "yes" -- the
question:
Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no? But that's rather
minor, in light of your inadvertent confession of the nature of your
relationship with Caroline, wouldn't you say?
Deborah
Boed...@isp.com
> On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > > > You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
> > > > > > basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
>
> > > > > You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
> > > > > your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
>
> > > > > Susan
>
> > > > Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan.
>
> > > Dodge noted - AGAIN.
>
> > Thanks for confessing.
>
> That you've dodged the fact that you were falsely projecting
"Projecting". That 1 million and one.
> your bigory
"Bigory"?
onto those who exposed it? I've done nothing but
> point thart out this enture thread. As alays, your deliberate
> obtuseness doesn't change that either.
Sigh. "enture"? "alays"? "thart"?
How is it you can spell "Projecting" and "Flaws" correctly but have
problems with the simplest of words?
>
> Susan
Hermann
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > > > You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support for
> > > > > > basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
>
> > > > > You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
> > > > > your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
>
> > > > > Susan
>
> > > > Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan.
>
> > > Dodge noted - AGAIN.
>
> > Thanks for confessing.
>
> That you've dodged the fact that you were falsely projecting
> your bigory onto those who exposed it?
Find the bigotry in these questions I've been asking you, Susan:
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
>
> > > > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
>
> > > It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
>
> > They're questions designed to stump bigots.
>
> Except for them not being questions, but rather projections
> of your own bigotry
You have it bass akwards. It takes a bigot to imagine bigotry in
these questions
1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
to personal freedom/self determination?
2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
Any honest/ethical person would answer the questions with "yes,"
Susan.
Why won't you?
Duwaynea Anderson
<snip>
> Yes or no, Duwayne. f your god commanded you to stop drooling over
> Caroline's snatch at her gymnastic meets,
I'm an atheist. I don't have a god or gods.
You do, however. And you've admitted that it's possible for your god
to command his/her/its subjects to commit genocide. So I think it’s
time for you to answer this question – the one that you have snipped,
ignored, and dodged:
Question: “If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do
it?”
It's a simple question. The fact that you refuse to answer it tells
us exactly what your answer is.
<snip rest of Deborah's frustrated sexual fantasy>
Duwaynea Anderson
<snip>
> You also failed and refused to answer with a "no" -- or a "yes" -- the
> question:
> Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
> suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
> on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey?
Can't be embarrassed over something that didn't happen.
Now, if you are through writing fiction as an expression of your
sexual fantasies, I think it's time you actually dealt with the
substantive issues here.
You really do worship a god that might tell you to commit genocide.
You allowed for that possibility.
So, since you allow that it is possible that your god might tell you
to commit genocide, I think the rest of us would like to know what you
intend to do if/when this evil god of yours tells you to start killing
people.
<snip to end>
fla...@verizon.net
On 8-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 4:11�pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On �5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > > You're wrong if you think it's anti-Semitic to equate support
> > > > >for
> > > > > > > basic human rights with anti-Semitism.
> >
> > > > > > You're wrong if you think that *anyone* has missed
> > > > > > your projection of your own bigotry as anything else.
> >
> > > > > > Susan
> >
> > > > > Here are the questions I've been asking you, Susan.
> >
> > > > Dodge noted - AGAIN.
> >
> > > Thanks for confessing.
> >
> > That you've dodged the fact that you were falsely projecting
> > your bigory onto those who exposed it?
>
> Find the bigotry in these questions I've been asking you, Susan:
It;s int he fact that - as I have pointed out every time you
try trhis dodge - the fact they are not questions, but your
projecting your own bigotry onto those who exposed it.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 8-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 4:28�pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On �5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
> >
> > > > > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
> >
> > > > It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
> >
> > > They're questions designed to stump bigots.
> >
> > Except for them not being questions, but rather projections
> > of your own bigotry
>
> You have it bass akwards.
Your desperation does make lies true.
You only threw these "questions" at those who exposed
your bigotry as a lame attempt to project said bigotry
onto those who exposed it. This is proven by not just
your refusal to ever address your bigotry, but the
contradictory lies you have told about the answer you
received.
Susan
RabbiJoekerr
wrote:
ooops duhwayne got caught lying again!!!
> > - Show quoted text -
RabbiJoekerr
wrote:
> Why have these questions caused you so much trouble?
Because any answer given is either twisted by you into something else
followed by your false accusations
or your lies claiming there was no answer...
now either respond to the questions asked of you or go back to your
fellow racists and leave us in peace!
RabbiJoekerr
wrote:
>
> They're questions designed to stump bigots. And they've done that
> nicely.
>
you're a liar... you simply pretend you don't see the responses or use
warped and depraved reasoning to twist their responses into something
else... you are the bigot!
RabbiJoekerr
wrote:
> On Jun 5, 4:28 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
>
> > On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
>
> > > > > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
>
> > > > It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
>
> > > They're questions designed to stump bigots.
>
> > Except for them not being questions, but rather projections
> > of your own bigotry
>
> You have it bass akwards. It takes a bigot to imagine bigotry in
> these questions
designed to justify your bigotry!
RabbiJoekerr
wrote:
>
> Can't be embarrassed over something that didn't happen.
ahhh and using your own dimwitted and pathetic attempt at logic...
since "God" hasn't asked us to commit genocide none of us can honestly
answer that question!
Duwaynea Anderson
> On 8-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 5, 4:28 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > On 5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
>
> > > > > > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
>
> > > > > It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
>
> > > > They're questions designed to stump bigots.
>
> > > Except for them not being questions, but rather projections
> > > of your own bigotry
>
> > You have it bass akwards.
>
> Your desperation does make lies true.
Nothing can make your lies true, Susan.
Now, about those questions you refuse to answer:
1) Do you unconditionally condemn genocide?
2) If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
Any moral/ethical person would answer those questions, Susan.
Why won't you?
<snip to end>
fla...@verizon.net
On 9-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <Duwayne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 4:10�am, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > On �8-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 5, 4:28�pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> > > > On �5-Jun-2009, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > And here we go again: DuWayne's bigotry is exposed,
> >
> > > > > > > It doesn't take a "bigot" to ask these questions:
> >
> > > > > > It takes a bigot to pretend they are "questions"
> >
> > > > > They're questions designed to stump bigots.
> >
> > > > Except for them not being questions, but rather projections
> > > > of your own bigotry
> >
> > > You have it bass akwards.
> >
> > Your desperation does make lies true.
>
> Nothing can make your lies true, Susan.
Or even existent, as you know best of all.
A shame the same cannot be said of you.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 9-Jun-2009, RabbiJoekerr <jokerso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Except for them not being questions, but rather projections
> > > of your own bigotry
> >
> > You have it bass akwards. �It takes a bigot to imagine bigotry in
> > these questions
> No it takes someone who has observed your conduct to see that it's
> designed to justify your bigotry!
That's another fabulous encapsulation of DuWaynea's posts.
Susan
dsharavi
wrote:
> 1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
> certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
> to personal freedom/self determination?
Paletinians don't think so, especially if one happens to be a Jew, or
a woman, or gay.
> 2) Do you agree with the inalienable rights described at this link?
> http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/
The States which paid lip service to it certainly don't.
Deborah
mir...@actcom.co.il
> Find the bigotry in these questions I've been asking you, Susan:
Religion, politics etc ,,
Asking people such questions is BIGOTRY
Because You Put yourself in a Judge`s chair , which you are not !!!!
All people have the right to hold their own beliefs quietly to
themselves , as long as they don`t harm others .....
mirjam
Duwaynea Anderson
> On Jun 8, 3:33 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > 1) Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with
> > certain inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right
> > to personal freedom/self determination?
>
> Paletinians don't think so,
How racist of you to lump all Palestinians together like that.
But I notice you ignored the questions. So, what does Deborah think?
Are all people (including Palestinians, Jews, etc.) born with certain
inalienable rights, including the right to live, and the right to
personal freedom/self determination?
RabbiJoekerr
More important and duhwayne has always refused to answer the
question...
Is self defense genocide? Is it genocide when the announced intent of
the muslims is genocide? etc etc
If muslims state that there is no self determination and that it is
incompatible with their beliefs does this violate his norrow minded
delusional definition? On so/not why? How is it that he expects the
minority rights to disenfranchise the majority isn't that a violation?
When does self self determination(sic) require others to accept your
views? After all his own definition means he must accept our beliefs
without question as he has insisted of others... his claim is that if
you don't accept others choices (regardless of basis) then you are at
fault this isn't just hypocrisy it's stupidity!
Duwaynea Anderson
> > Find the bigotry in these questions I've been asking you, Susan:
>
> The Most cherished Human Right is to have your free ideas about
> Religion, politics etc ,,
>
> Asking people such questions is BIGOTRY
You have it bass akwards. Ignoring questions/issues about basic human
rights is bigotry.
dsha...@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>Measures, would you mind explaining why you think it's
>>>>>>>>>>"hostile toward Jews" to support the 1948 convention
>>>>>>>>>>against genocide?
.
>>>>>>>>(•R. L. Measures) wrote:
.
>>>>>>>>That makes two of you.
>>>>>>>>Deborah
>
>>>>>>On Jun 1, 12:03 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>>>>>Deborah, I still haven't seen
.
>dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>...the light? That's obvious.
>
>>>>>>>Waiting ...
>
>>...to get a clue -- that, too, is obvious, and it appears the wait
>>>>>>will be a long one.
>>>>>>Deborah
>
>>>>On Jun 3, 3:51 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>>>>Deborah, why won't
>
....you get a clue? Search me.
>
>>>>>I asked if you
>
>>On Jun 5, 10:49 am, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>Ooops.
>
>>Ooops, gotta restore another of Duwayne's snips:
>
>>>>Duwayne wrote:
>>>>>I asked if you
>>...believe this represents your stance on human rights:
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
>>>>or if this represents your stance on human rights:
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
>>>>>No answer.
>
>>>>Well, I haven't yet decided whether this is where you're coming from:
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY&feature=fvw
>>>>or whether you incline more to this position:
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
>>>>I tend to think it's probably this one:
>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffoOZLqNmk
>
>>>>What do you think, Duwayne?
>
>>>>>I've asked if you would commit genocide if god told you to.
>>>>>No answer.
>
>>>>Stop lying, Duwayne. I answered your idiotic question. Twice already.
>>>>Deborah
.
>>>Deborah snipped the question again.
>>>Deborah, if god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
>
>>Stop lying, Duwayne. I answered your idiotic question.
>
Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>wrote:
>Deborah thinks this is an "idiotic question:"
>Question: If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do
>it?
Coming from a former religion-pedlar-turned-atheist, the question is
risable.
>
>>Several times already.
>
>Not with "no."
>
You're not asking questions, Duwayne. You're dictating responses based
on your need to reassure yourself that you made The Right Decision.
>
>>Speaking of snipped and ignored questions, here's the
>>question you keep ignoring and/or snipping, Duwayne:
>
>>Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
>>suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
>>on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
>
>Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
>that's never been done?
>
You did not answer yes or no. Which is it, Duwayne? Are you
acknowledging that Jacob, Michael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and
Laura, too -- DID suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for
indecent exposure, just not on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey?
Yes or no.
>But you never said it was "impossible" for your god to ask you to
>commit genocide. You never said it's something that he/she/it would
>absolutely never do. You just said it was unlikely.
It's a mystery how someone with a degree in physics, who is one of
Tektronix's senior engineers, can be so bloody dense. I said it seemed
unlikely, as it's impossible to answer a question based on an action
which never happened and is merely hypothetical--at best.
>But something that's unlikely is still possible (unlike the bogus
>sexual fantasy that you tried to make into a question).
The "sexual" fantasy appears to be yours, Duwayne, as you're the one
who brought it up. And, one might add, went a bit ballistic over it.
You did protest too much, methinks.
>So, since it's "possible" that you god might ask you to commit
>genocide, I think you should explain whether or not you would obey
>your evil god.
Why does an atheist like yourself believe in the existence of a god?
>If your god told you to pick up a hatchet and kill all the boys that
>had recently been taken prisoners of war in a battle, would you do it?
Like the soldiers of Alexander with the Malloi? Now that, Duwayne,
unlike your ludicrously sophomoric examples, was an actual event.
None were left alive in the Mallian stronghold, neither man nor woman
nor child. Why don't you try for a bit of realism and ask your
question based on the reality of orders received from a commanding
officer, rather than basing it on your belief in a god?
>Of course there's little question regarding the answer to that
>question. Of course you would. That's why you're trying so hard to
>dodge and ignore the question. On the one hand you don't want to piss
>off this evil god you worship by saying you might disobey a direct
>commandment, but on the other hand you don't want to look like a
>raving religious fanatic -- which you are.
Well, there you are Duwayne. You're dictating answers because you're
begging for reassurance that your decision to leave the faith of your
fathers--a momentous decision you made based solely on your personal
interpretation of a verse of a chapter of a book of the bible--was The
Right Thing To Do. That's the sole point of your childish reiteration
of your latest in a long line of your sophomoric questions.
>It's a conundrum. Should you piss off god, or should you give
>yourself away?
Should you go on believing that leaving Mormonism, based on your
personal interpretation of a verse of a chapter of a book of the bible
-- which, you admit, you'd never read -- The Right Thing To Do? It's a
conundrum, isn't it?
><snip to end>
Duwayne's snippy snippies restored.
Deborah
dsha...@yahoo.com
><snip>
Duwayne can dish it out, but he can't take it.
>>>>>>>>On Jun 3, 2:48 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>** Duwayne was trapped by what he wrote.
.
>>>>>>>On Jun 3, 9:47 am, dsharavi wrote:
>>>>>>>>And he parrots it so often. So eager is he to parrot his own
>>>>>>>>jabberings, he often mistakes the poster to whom he's ostensibly
>>>>>>>>addressing them. Do you think this might be a lingering aftereffect
>>>>>>>>from his long years of peddling religion?
>>>>>>>>Deborah
.
>>>>>>On Jun 3, 3:40 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>Deborah, why do you refuse to universally and unconditionally condemn
>>>>>>>genocide?
.
>>>>>On Jun 5, 10:34 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>Duwayne, why do you continuously refuse to answer the question whether
>>>>>>you believe your habit of parroting questions is a lingering
>>>>>>aftereffect from your long years of being a door-to-door religion-
>>>>>>monger?
.
>>>>On Jun 5, 10:42 am, Duwaynea Anderson
>>>><DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>That makes no sense.
.
>>>On Jun 5, 3:21 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>It makes perfect sense to anyone who has been pestered by
>>>>proselytizers
.
>>On Jun 5, 3:26 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>Explain.
>>><snip>
.
>dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>>wrote:
.
>>>I'll ask it for you again:
.
>>I'll ask the same question for you again: Did Jacob, Mischael,
>>Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too -- suffer acute
>>embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure on the
>>corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
.
>>>If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
.
>>Already answered. Several times. Because you're too dense to
>>comprehend the answer doesn't mean it wasn't answered. And speaking of
>>repeated questions, I'll repeated another question to keep snipping
>>and ignoring. Here's that question, Duwayne:
.
>>If your god commanded you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
>>her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck himself, and start
>>boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it,
>>or more, already.)
.
>>>>Even you should be able to figure that out. Speaking of
>>>>ignoring questions, why do you keep ignoring the question whether
>>>>you'd tell your "god" to fuck himself, if your "god" commanded you to
>>>>stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
>>>>her gymnastic meets, and start boinking her instead? (Assuming you
>>>>haven't been fantasizing about it.)
>>>Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
>>>that's never been done?
.
>>Yes or no, Duwayne. f your god commanded you to stop drooling over
>>Caroline's snatch at her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck
>>himself, and start boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been
>>fantasizing about it, or more, already.)
.
>I'm an atheist. I don't have a god or gods.
.
For a self-proclaimed atheist, you're pretty hung up on gods. For a
self-proclaimed atheist.
>You do, however.
I do what?
>And you've admitted that it's possible for your god
>to command his/her/its subjects to commit genocide.
You're lying again, Duwayne. I never said anything of the sort. Stop
lying.
>So I think it’s
>time for you to answer this question – the one that you have snipped,
>ignored, and dodged:
>Question: “If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do
>it?”
>It's a simple question.
No, it isn't a simple question. You merely think it's a simple
question, because you're anxious to dictate answers so that you can
hurry on to your real motive, which is drumming up reassurance that
your decision to leave Mormonism -- based on your personal
interpretation of a verse of a chapter of a book of the bible -- was
The Right Thing To Do. You also think it's a simple question, because
you have a simple mind.
First, you would have to provide a precedent where a person received
supernatural orders to commit genocide.
>The fact that you refuse to answer it tells
>us exactly what your answer is.
Stop lying. It tells nothing but that you're anxious to dictate the
answers -- which is no doubt what you did when you were peddling your
religion -- so that you can hurry on to drumming up reassurance that
your decision to leave Mormonism -- based on your personal
interpretation of a verse of a chapter of a book of the bible -- was
The Right Thing To Do.
><snip rest of Deborah's frustrated sexual fantasy>
The sexual fantasy is YOURS, Duwayne; you're the one who mentioned it.
Therefore, one may rightly assume that that sexual fantasy you
mentioned in connection with Caroline is more than likely -- and
possibly more than a sexual fantasy. The fact that you refused to
answer the question tells us exactly what your answer is.
Deborah
.
>>>So, since it's "possible" that you god might ask you to commit
>>>genocide, I think you should explain whether or not you would obey
>>>your evil god.
.
>>Since it's "possible" that what you have called your sexual fantasy
>>regarding Caroline may be more than that. I think you'd better
>>explain your inclinations here. And the evil god is YOURS, Duwayne.
.
>>>But you never said it was "impossible" for your god to ask you to
>>>commit genocide.
.
>>You never said it was impossible for you to stop drooling over
>>Caroline's snatch at her gymnastic meets, or to stop your fantasizing
>>about Caroline either.
.
>>>You never said it's something that he/she/it would
>>>absolutely never do. You just said it was unlikely.
.
>>You, on the other hand, never said it was unlikely that you've done
>>more than indulge yourself in fantasies about Caroline. Have you done
>>more than that, Duwayne?
.
>>>But something that's unlikely is still possible
.
>>Therefore, it's likely that you've done more than merely fantasize
>>about Caroline.
.
>>>(unlike the bogus
>>>sexual fantasy that you tried to make into a question).
.
>>No sexual fantasy was ever mentioned. Duwayne -- until you just
>>mentioned it. Therefore, one may rightly assume that that sexual
>>fantasy you mentioned in connection with Caroline is more than likely
>>-- and possibly more than a sexual fantasy.
.
>>>So, since it's "possible" that you god might ask you to commit
>>>genocide, I think you should explain whether or not you would obey
>>>your evil god.
.
>>Since it's "possible" that what you have called your sexual fantasy
>>regarding Caroline may be more than that. I think you'd better
>>explain your inclinations here. And the evil god is YOURS, Duwayne.
.
>>>If your god told you to pick up a hatchet and kill all the boys that
>>>had recently been taken prisoners of war in a battle, would you do it?
.
>>Not at issue. What's at issue is what you've confessed are your sexual
>>fantasies regarding Caroline, and what you've done to make them more
>>than your fantasies.
.
>>>Of course there's little question regarding the answer to that
>>>question. Of course you would. That's why you're trying so hard to
>>>dodge and ignore the question. On the one hand you don't want to piss
>>>off this evil god you worship by saying you might disobey a direct
>>>commandment, but on the other hand you don't want to look like a
>>>raving religious fanatic -- which you are.
.
>>Nope. You're the one who dragged your family from state to state while
>>missionizing for your evil god, Duwayne. Stop trying to scapegoat
>>others for your own failings.
.
>>>It's a conundrum. Should you piss off god, or should you give
>>>yourself away?
.
>>You've done that, quite frequently. You've also failed and refused to
>>qualify your question, but even so, I answered it. Because you're too
>>dense, dishonest, and self-delusionary to comprehend it doesn't mean
>>the question wasn't answered.
.
>>>>>If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
.
>>>>Already answered.
.
>>>Not with "no."
.
dsha...@yahoo.com
><snip>
Oho, here's Duwayne's second response to the same post. He really
can't take what he dishes out.
>>>>>>>>On Jun 3, 2:48 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>** Duwayne was trapped by what he wrote.
.
>>>>>>>On Jun 3, 9:47 am, dsharavi wrote:
>>>>>>>>And he parrots it so often. So eager is he to parrot his own
>>>>>>>>jabberings, he often mistakes the poster to whom he's ostensibly
>>>>>>>>addressing them. Do you think this might be a lingering aftereffect
>>>>>>>>from his long years of peddling religion?
>>>>>>>>Deborah
.
>>>>>>On Jun 3, 3:40 pm, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>Deborah, why do you refuse to universally and unconditionally condemn
>>>>>>>genocide?
.
>>>>>On Jun 5, 10:34 am, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>Duwayne, why do you continuously refuse to answer the question whether
>>>>>>you believe your habit of parroting questions is a lingering
>>>>>>aftereffect from your long years of being a door-to-door religion-
>>>>>>monger?
.
>>>>On Jun 5, 10:42 am, Duwaynea Anderson
>>>><DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>That makes no sense.
>>>On Jun 5, 3:21 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>It makes perfect sense to anyone who has been pestered by
>>>>proselytizers
.
>>On Jun 5, 3:26 pm, Duwaynea Anderson wrote:
>>>Explain.
>>><snip>
.
>dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com>>wrote:
>>The explanation is inherent in the part of the statement above, which
>>you snipped. Here is is again, with your snippage restored: It makes
>>perfect sense to anyone who has been pestered by proselytizers (door-
>>to-door religion-
>>mongers) over the years. You were one yourself for a decade, moving
>>your family from state to state so that you could peddle your former
>>religion --until you got atheism and became a born again atheist that
>>is. And on nothing more than the basis of a verse you misread, from
>>scriptures with whose traditions and scholarship you were, and remain,
>>totally ignorant.
.
>>If you're too dense to comprehend it, learn to read before snipping,
>>or ask Chris or Caroline for an explanation.
.
>>>>>You ignored the question.
>>>>Responding to a question with a question is not ignoring the first
>>>>question.
.
>>>Sure it is.
.
>>I'll give you an example of why you're wrong, again, which lies in the
>>question you keep ignoring and/or snipping. The question is you keep
>>avoiding is:
>>Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
>>suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
>>on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
.
>>>I'll ask it for you again:
,
>>I'll ask the same question for you again: Did Jacob, Mischael,
>>Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too -- suffer acute
>>embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure on the
>>corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no?
,
>>>If your god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
,
>>Already answered. Several times. Because you're too dense to
>>comprehend the answer doesn't mean it wasn't answered. And speaking of
>>repeated questions, I'll repeated another question to keep snipping
>>and ignoring. Here's that question, Duwayne:
,
>>If your god commanded you to stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
>>her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck himself, and start
>>boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been fantasizing about it,
>>or more, already.)
,
>>>>Even you should be able to figure that out. Speaking of
>>>>ignoring questions, why do you keep ignoring the question whether
>>>>you'd tell your "god" to fuck himself, if your "god" commanded you to
>>>>stop drooling over Caroline's snatch at
>>>>her gymnastic meets, and start boinking her instead? (Assuming you
>>>>haven't been fantasizing about it.)
,
>>>Are you still confused about the impossibility of "stopping" something
>>>that's never been done?
.
>>Yes or no, Duwayne. f your god commanded you to stop drooling over
>>Caroline's snatch at her gymnastic meets, would you tell him to fuck
>>himself, and start boinking her instead? (Assuming you haven't been
>>fantasizing about it, or more, already.)
.
>>>But you never said it was "impossible" for your god to ask you to
>>>commit genocide.
.
>>You never said it was impossible for you to stop drooling over
>>Caroline's snatch at her gymnastic meets, or to stop your fantasizing
>>about Caroline either.
.
>>>You never said it's something that he/she/it would
>>>absolutely never do. You just said it was unlikely.
.
>>You, on the other hand, never said it was unlikely that you've done
>>more than indulge yourself in fantasies about Caroline. Have you done
>>more than that, Duwayne?
.
>>>But something that's unlikely is still possible
>>
>>Therefore, it's likely that you've done more than merely fantasize
>>about Caroline.
.
>>>(unlike the bogus
>>>sexual fantasy that you tried to make into a question).
.
>>No sexual fantasy was ever mentioned. Duwayne -- until you just
>>mentioned it. Therefore, one may rightly assume that that sexual
>>fantasy you mentioned in connection with Caroline is more than likely
>>-- and possibly more than a sexual fantasy.
.
>>>So, since it's "possible" that you god might ask you to commit
>>>genocide, I think you should explain whether or not you would obey
>>>your evil god.
.
>>Since it's "possible" that what you have called your sexual fantasy
>>regarding Caroline may be more than that. I think you'd better
>>explain your inclinations here. And the evil god is YOURS, Duwayne.
.
>>>If your god told you to pick up a hatchet and kill all the boys that
>>>had recently been taken prisoners of war in a battle, would you do it?
.
>>Not at issue. What's at issue is what you've confessed are your sexual
>>fantasies regarding Caroline, and what you've done to make them more
>>than your fantasies.
.
>>>Of course there's little question regarding the answer to that
>>>question. Of course you would. That's why you're trying so hard to
>>>dodge and ignore the question. On the one hand you don't want to piss
>>>off this evil god you worship by saying you might disobey a direct
>>>commandment, but on the other hand you don't want to look like a
>>>raving religious fanatic -- which you are.
.
>>Nope. You're the one who dragged your family from state to state while
>>missionizing for your evil god, Duwayne. Stop trying to scapegoat
>>others for your own failings.
.
>>>It's a conundrum. Should you piss off god, or should you give
>>>yourself away?
.
>>You've done that, quite frequently. You've also failed and refused to
>>qualify your question, but even so, I answered it. Because you're too
>>dense, dishonest, and self-delusionary to comprehend it doesn't mean
>>the question wasn't answered.
.
>>>>>If god commanded you to commit genocide, would you do it?
.
>>>>Already answered.
.
>>>Not with "no."
.
>>You also failed and refused to answer with a "no" -- or a "yes" -- the
>>question:
>>Did Jacob, Mischael, Caroline, and Christopher -- and Laura, too --
>>suffer acute embarassment when you were arrested for indecent exposure
>>on the corner of Pittsburgh and Hankey? Yes or no? But that's rather
>>minor, in light of your inadvertent confession of the nature of your
>>relationship with Caroline, wouldn't you say?
.
>Can't be embarrassed over something that didn't happen.
.
But one is supposed to answer ludicrous questions based on something
that didn't happen, no?
>Now, if you are through writing fiction as an expression of your
>sexual fantasies,
.
They're YOUR sexual fantasies, Duwayne. You've already confessed to
them.
>I think it's time you actually dealt with the
>substantive issues here.
.
The only substantive issue here, Duwayne, is your childish reiteration
of your sophomoric questions based on your need for reassurance that
your decision to leave Mormonism -- based on your personal
interpretation of a verse from a chapter of a book of the bible --
which you admit you'd never read -- was The Right Thing To Do. See a
shrink and stop pestering people.
>You really do worship a god that might tell you to commit genocide.
>You allowed for that possibility.
That's YOUR presumption, Duwayne, and you're lying again. I never said
anything of the sort. For all you know, I'm a regular attendee at the
Church of Satan in Seaside.
>So, since you allow that it is possible that ...
...you need to see a shrink about your insecurity over having turned
your back on the faith of your fathers, yes, I think you should see a
shrink. Don't forget to tell the shrink about your inability to
distinguish fact from fiction, and your pathological need to lie in
lieu of facing facts.
Deborah
NefeshBarYochai
wrote:
You should stop playing with yourself. You'll see when you stop
masturbating the the evil spirit that cause you to post such non-sense
will not have so much power. You should be careful what you post
here. A person might attack you with a Bolshevik Machete.
fla...@verizon.net
On 10-Jun-2009, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
> > Find the bigotry in these questions I've been asking you, Susan:
> The Most cherished Human Right is to have your free ideas about
> Religion, politics etc ,,
>
That's not even the point , here. He's not questioning
my beliefs - he's ignoring them, & lying about them.
> Asking people such questions is BIGOTRY
> Because You Put yourself in a Judge`s chair , which you are not !!!!
>
Well, the real problem is that he's only doing it to try
to project his own bigotry onto me, completely unfairly,
because he exposed himself as a bigot in the very
beginning of this thread & I not only caught him, I
wouldn't let up on him about it.
> All people have the right to hold their own beliefs quietly to
> themselves , as long as they don`t harm others .....
But the fact is that he's been lying about my beliefs,
lying about my answer - & all because he was lying
about Israel, Jews, Judaism & I caught him.
Susan