Satan is mad with Mormons, because Satan can’t have exaltation.
Master Mahan
Nothing upsets Satan more than when a Mormon teases him.
According to elders in the LDS Church, God allows Satan to get back at
you if you tease him.
Here is an example of what I am talking about:
Aha, Aha, Satan can�t have children, Satan can never become a god.
Aha, Aha, Satan can�t have children, Satan can never become a god.
Aha, Aha, Satan can�t have children, Satan can never become a god.
I will never stop saying this until you do my bidding, Aha, Aha.
If you want me to stop, then give me a Billion Dollars.
According to the LDS Church only gods and goddess can have children.
And Satan get so anger when you tease him, that he is even reported to
have cause car wrecks when you tease on the road. And I once had a
dream from God that if I tease Satan, God would allow Satan to destroy
me. So, Goodbye everyone, just incase Satan gets me tonight.
So there you have it, don�t tease Satan, and be wise, don�t follow my
foolish example.
Take from: - p587 in "WHAT I LEARN BY BEING A MORMON"
Curmugeon
> Satan is mad with Mormons, because Satan can’t have exaltation.
>
Woody, see what you have stirred up? <g>
Woody Brison
> Satan is mad with Mormons, because Satan can’t have exaltation.
Yes. That is correct.
> Nothing upsets Satan more than when a Mormon teases him.
Oh, not really. He doesn't mind insults. What he wants is
for people to get used to hatred and feel it all the time.
If he's the object of the hatred, it doesn't bother him.
> According to elders in the LDS Church, God allows Satan to get back at
> you if you tease him.
>
> Here is an example of what I am talking about:
>
> Aha, Aha, Satan can’t have children, Satan can never become a god.
> Aha, Aha, Satan can’t have children, Satan can never become a god.
> Aha, Aha, Satan can’t have children, Satan can never become a god.
> I will never stop saying this until you do my bidding, Aha, Aha.
> If you want me to stop, then give me a Billion Dollars.
>
> According to the LDS Church only gods and goddess can have children.
>
> And Satan get so anger when you tease him, that he is even reported to
> have cause car wrecks when you tease on the road. And I once had a
> dream from God that if I tease Satan, God would allow Satan to destroy
> me. So, Goodbye everyone, just incase Satan gets me tonight.
>
> So there you have it, don’t tease Satan, and be wise, don’t follow my
> foolish example.
OK, brother, point taken.
I've studied questions like "how do we know what we think
we know?" and "what's the origin of ... <whatever advice>."
It comes down to information. You can't get information
about the world by tossing a dice; only information about
the dice, if they are loaded. A random source of information
doesn't inform. So when someone is making stuff up, they
aren't a reliable source.
Satan does exist. He was one of our Father's children,
long before the earth was populated. He was expelled from
the family and is out of the program. He is a spirit, he
will never be able to get a physical body like we all have.
This is because he is a ruined mind, he has no commitment
to truth and can't form any such commitment any more. So,
he lies all the time. So, he's not a good source of
information. So, it's useless to converse with him. So,
ignore him.
Some of our missionaries were having a lot of troubles
with evil spirits - dreams, fears, visits, even a
possession or two. The mission president said the problem
was caused by the missionaries talking about Satan all
the time, discussing him and his state, his future, etc.
It's great to understand Satan's condition, but then let
it go. To think about him all the time, talk about him,
etc. etc. etc. won't do any good - having him on the mind
all the time only gives him a little more chance to bother
us.
Much better to talk about God and his work. Then, that
fills our minds and Satan doesn't find much chance to
butt in.
> Take from: - p587 in "WHAT I LEARN BY BEING A MORMON"
I'm not familiar with this. Is it a book? Check the title,
see if you got it correct. I'd like to find out what it says.
Wood
Curmugeon
> On Jan 3, 8:15 pm, Master Mahan <ea...@earth.net> wrote:
>
> > Satan is mad with Mormons, because Satan can’t have exaltation.
GF: I doubt that Satan is more angry with "Mormons" than with any
other people. Why would he be?I suppose he could be if he thinks that
"Mormons" are more dangerous to he cause than other people. But are
they? Does he believe they are?
> > Nothing upsets Satan more than when a Mormon teases him.
GF: I am not intimately acquainted with Satan, as Master Mahan may be,
so I have no real notion of what upsets him more and what upsets him
less. I don't really want to know such intimate details.
Snip Wood's reply
> > According to elders in the LDS Church, God allows Satan to get back at
> > you if you tease him.
GF: Which elders would that be? I am an elder in The Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints, which I assume you are intending by the
use of "the LDS Church", having been ordained such many years ago. I
do not make that claim. I know many others who have been ordained as
Elders in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and I have
never heard any of them make that claim. So again, which elders are
you referring to in making that claim?
> > Here is an example of what I am talking about:
>
> > Aha, Aha, Satan can’t have children, Satan can never become a god.
> > Aha, Aha, Satan can’t have children, Satan can never become a god.
> > Aha, Aha, Satan can’t have children, Satan can never become a god.
> > I will never stop saying this until you do my bidding, Aha, Aha.
> > If you want me to stop, then give me a Billion Dollars.
GF: An example should, in my understanding, give an instance of a real
happening. Right? So when have you heard the string of words that you
have written here, said by an "LDS Elder"?
> > According to the LDS Church only gods and goddess can have children.
GF: Interesting. All of my ancestors had children. <g> I have been the
father of children. Does that mean that I am a god? Of course not. Now
you may have a point here that you have not stated very well, but as
it stands, your statement is not true.
> > And Satan get so anger when you tease him, that he is even reported to
> > have cause car wrecks when you tease on the road.
GF: What is the source and believabiltiy of that report?
> And I once had a
> > dream from God that if I tease Satan, God would allow Satan to destroy
> > me.
GF: What makes you think that was a dream from God?
> So, Goodbye everyone, just incase Satan gets me tonight.
GF: I am not particularly worried about that. You may be tempting God
by making light of him, but I don't think He will seek retribution by
removing you from mortality. I don't believe He works that way.
> > So there you have it, don’t tease Satan, and be wise, don’t follow my
> > foolish example.
>
> OK, brother, point taken.
GF: I saw no real point there.
Wood's advice (which is good) deleted.
>
> > Take from: - p587 in "WHAT I LEARN BY BEING A MORMON"
>
> I'm not familiar with this. Is it a book? Check the title,
> see if you got it correct. I'd like to find out what it says.
If it exists in some form, I would be interested in the author as
well.
> Wood
Curmugeon
> Satan is mad with Mormons, because Satan can’t have exaltation.
Actually, if that is a true statement, Satan must be a rather childish
being. The "Mormons" have nothing to do with the fact that he cannot
have exaltation.
Zootal
"Curmugeon" <gfull...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I think it would be more accurate to say that he is mad at those that choose
not to follow him. That includes all of us who kept our first estate and are
entitled to a session here on earth in mortality. Those that played a role
in thwarting him are the ones he is more mad at. As for the LDS - we not
only played a prominent role in thwarting him in the pre-existence, but we
are actively working at thwarting him here. It stands to reason that we are
the ones he is most irked at, and the ones he targets more. But even so, his
bounds are set, and no matter how "mad" he is, he is still limited in what
he can do to us.
But as you implied, the reason he is "mad" is not that he can't have
exaltation. If he is mad at all, it is because we thwarted him and continue
to do so.
Curmugeon
> "Curmugeon" <gfuller1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I agree. But I still don't want the point to be lost that Satan made
his own choice that has put him into the position he is in where he
not only will not be exalted in the Celestial Kingdom, he did not even
manage to be "exalted" to the degree necessary to be allowed to come
to earth to gain a body of flesh and bones. We did not cause that in
any manner. Even if we had supported his plan to take over the honor
of our Father (Moses 4:1), he would not have made it.
Actually, I would speculate that Satan may be angry with his (and our)
Father. Many boys at a certain level of development decide they are
wiser than their father and are angry when they do not receive
confirmation of that supposition.
RetroProphet
Woody Brison says...
>
>
>I've studied questions like "how do we know what we think
>we know?" and "what's the origin of ... <whatever advice>."
>It comes down to information. You can't get information
>about the world by tossing a dice; only information about
>the dice, if they are loaded. A random source of information
>doesn't inform. So when someone is making stuff up, they
>aren't a reliable source.
Here's a good example of someone making stuff up
(and, not owning up to it...):
"Another factor, the Spanish Conquistadores burned all the
native books they could find. Not much left to testify of
the Nephites, but some of their books and art is gradually
coming forth."
D_Fru...@ndersnat.ch
> Here's a good example of someone making stuff up
> (and, not owning up to it...):
> "Another factor, the Spanish Conquistadores burned all the
> native books they could find. Not much left to testify of
> the Nephites, but some of their books and art is gradually
> coming forth."
Perhaps he was thinking of Ixtlilxochitl?
Bill
Woody Brison
wrote:
> Here's a good example of someone making stuff up
> (and, not owning up to it...):
>
> "Another factor, the Spanish Conquistadores burned all the
> native books they could find. Not much left to testify of
> the Nephites, but some of their books and art is gradually
> coming forth."
Thanks for the example. You are making stuff up all right.
What I wrote there was true, and still is.
We studied Mexican history in 6th grade, and that point
about the burning of native books was made in the textbook.
I didn't make it up.
It's also true that there isn't much to testify of the
Nephites. If you disagree, trot out the evidence to the
contrary.
It's also true that some of their books and art is gradually
coming forth. The Book of Mormon is one of their books.
There are also murals being discovered. You rarely see
any art that doesn't also transmit previous art. So,
assuming that the Mayan who painted the mural wasn't a
Nephite, he may have seen a mural that was painted by
a guy who saw a Nephite mural. You see this pattern all
throughout art history. Do some seeing. Go to Mexico and
look at some of the modern murals. They all look similar
to each other, they are copying what they've seen and
making slight changes with each iteration.
We also have the promise (1 Nephi 13:39) that there will
be more books coming forth.
And, it just makes good sense. The Nephites are all going
to be resurrected. Why wouldn't we get to read their books?
Wood
Woody Brison
And they say that Satan is really intelligent. He gave up
everything, exaltation, being a great leader, being a hero...
he even gave up sex! How intelligent is he really?
Wood
Zootal
"Woody Brison" <woody....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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There is a huge difference between "intelligent" and "wise". I have had the
misfortune to work with some very intelligent people that seem to be mostly
devoid of common sense. Smart as can be, but you look at them and wonder how
they can be so smart, and so clueless?
Satan wanted things his way. How he figured he had any chance of winning at
all is beyond me. Maybe he knew where he was going to end up, and figured
that was OK with him so long as he can bring enough people with him to be
his slaves? After all, how many billions of people have followed him? Maybe
he decided he would rather rule in hell then be a servant in heaven?
Unfortunately, we have almost no information at all about this phase or our
existence. All we really know is that there were two very different
ideologies, and we were given a choice as to which one to follow. The
majority ruled, and the miniority was kicked out. And a lot of people sat on
the fence and choose neither.
Today we see an interesting parallel in the US government. The liberals want
to control and force people to do things there way, just as satan wants to
control and force people to do things his way. The anti-Christ is in the
whitehouse surrounded by socialists, communists, and Maoists. We have the
very same war of ideology brewing as before.
<'}}><
<woody....@gmail.com> wrote:
>Much better to talk about God and his work. Then, that
>fills our minds and Satan doesn't find much chance to
>butt in.
I don�t need a Harvard degree Brother Brison to know that one does not
rise to the top of Mormon kingdom without confronting the Devil. How
long have you be without a personal confrontation?
No one gets close to God without confronting the Devil. Please get
the right picture Brother Brison, the scriptures paints the same
picture for everyone searching for God. Yes, its always the same
picture; you cannot get near God, without first confronting the Devil.
You speak about avoiding that confrontation, as if in the end of your
journey to know God, the Devil will not be there waiting to confront
you.
Are you so incline to not prepare others for that confrontation?
One does not fight evil by being ignorant of it�s existence.
If what I tell you has no bearing, then why are we taught how to
detect an evil spirit?
(D&C 129:8) "If it be the devil as an angel of light, when you ask him
to shake hands he will offer you his hand, and you will not feel
anything; you may therefore detect him."
My experiences with the Devil are few, but more than any man I know in
the church today. I was only six years old when I had my first
confrontation. I was playing outside in a open field when the Devil
approached me. My family had not yet joined the LDS Church,
therefore, I was at disadvantage in knowing how to detect an evil
spirit.
In fact the Devil had no right to harm me according to the Mormon
Doctrine. The Devil cannot harm innocent children, he is required to
use a proxy, a human proxy to harm little children under eight.
Except for me, Brother Brison, no else in the church has claimed to be
harmed by the Devil himself at a tender age of six.
While the prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. had to confront the Devil at the
age of fourteen, I had to confront the Devil at the age of six. It
doesn�t surprise me that the Devil detected the young spirit of Joseph
Smith, and knew he would be a disturber of his kingdom, a thorn at his
side. However, I often wonder what it was that the Devil saw in me.
Know that I spent three weeks in the hospital, and six months in bed,
it was a miracle the doctor said, how my mother Judith kept my heel
from getting infected; the doctor was expecting to amputate my right
leg. However, my mother learned from her father a German doctor how
to sterilize everything, my wound never came into contact with
anything, and my mother slept for six month holding up my foot in the
air, keeping my foot from touching the bed sheets. Yes, my mother
took to washing my foot three times a day in salt water that she had
to boil. My mother could not speak English, and my father was off
shore working. But the Lord provide a German with a car, and he even
offer to give me blood if I need blood. All efforts to locate that
man have failed, have failed. Came out of no where, and vanished just
the same. But that does surprises me one bit, since that is not the
first time, that a person appear out of nowhere to help us. One time
I was given pills by my sister when we were little, my skin had turn
blue, and my mother not being able to speak English ran to the store
near our home, and the man close his shop and rush us to the hospital,
and there at the hospital a doctor that could speak my mother�s
language approached her, he arranged for everything, even a bed to be
set up for my mother could spend the night with us, because he had the
same name as my mother, he even arranged for our transportation home.
All efforts to local that doctor have failed, but I am not surprise
since I have meet angels already.
Perhaps to an untrained eye, there was nothing out of the ordinary
about my life as a young boy, expect for being the most beautiful baby
born in the hospital, even the doctor said, This baby is really
beautiful. And all the nurse in the hospital came to see me, for I was
child of the gods, never had they seen such beautiful baby before. I
was a blond, blue eyes, fair skin baby without a puff fat face like
other children, I was truly beautiful, and I have pictures to prove
it, even Kodak company took pictures of me. Yes, to the untrained
eyes, there is nothing to be said, but the fact remains that my mother
could not bear children, and she stayed in bed without moving to give
birth to her first child, she only got up to go to the bathroom, or
got up to bathe. But God did not grant her the desires of her heart,
when she wanted me to be born, but God gave her a daughter instead,
which she named Dafne, now Dafne was born with a beautiful face, Hong
Kong Enterprises offered to make her famous throughout the world for a
beauty. Yes, still nothing strange to the untrained eye. When my
mother try a second time for me to be born, the Lord gave her Iris
instead. Now, my mother still determine that I should be born, for
she had already chosen my name before Dafne was born, therefore, my
mother pleaded with God a third time, and said, If you grant me a son
this time, I�ll offer him up to your service, to use him to glorify
your name, to be the servant in your hands. Now, Brother Brison, I was
ready to be born.
I was born three days late, on my father�s birthday, December 3, on
the same hour, and same minute of the day that he was born, only the
year being different. My father being 33 years of age when I was
born, and I was his third born child. He was also the third child to
his father, and my mother was the third child of her family also. Now,
all of this may seem nothing at all, but I know in my heart that God
has ordered everything in my life to coincide with the number 3.
And while the untrained eye see nothing out of the ordinary in my
life, my whole life has been surrounded by unordinary events. For not
only was I born with the number 3 everywhere, I was also to inherit a
ancient surname, "Gemmell" which in Scotland means "Old One" or
"Ancient". This surname comes for the third letter of the Hebrew
alphabet. Yes, to the untrained eye, it means nothing at all today,
but did you know that the royal household of David went into exile to
a city called Gamla (Gamla or Gamala)? Gamla means "Camel" in Hebrew,
and Gemmell comes from the third letter of the Hebrew alphabet and
means "Camel". Well, for the untrained eye, it means nothing, but to
a Sage it mean everything, for my ancestors came from Gamla, and that
is how we got our name. The first to hold that name was my ancestor
Gamel Lord of Carrick, the Gemmell of Templehouse are his descendents.
We are the oldest branch of the Gemmells in Scotland.
Today, everyone in the LDS church believes that Joseph Smith, Jr. was
on the lineage of the Grail Kings, yet what proof have we? If Joseph
can trace in family line back to Robert Smith, so can I, I am related
to Joseph Smith, Jr., and I proof.
I know that it was not by accident that the Devil appeared before me
at the age of six, and that he bruised my right heel at the tender age
of six. At first I could not understand why God had sent His angel to
warn me about the accident, yet do nothing to stop it, but actual
cause it to happen. Yes, I told God in prayer that I went around
telling everyone my favorite story of Samson, for it spoke of the
power and majesty of God, how He give man supernormal powers. And I
asked God how could allow His angel to appear before me, warn me of
danger, then do nothing to stop it, but actually cause it to happen.
Yes, I was hurt when my heel got caught between the two trailer
hitches, and the Devil moved the trailers so my heel would be bruise.
When I felt the heat, and knew my foot was soaked in blood, I called
out for the man to help me, and he disappears. My sister Dafne saw
the man, and all the children in the field that day, yes, the Devil
was dress in a black suit, wearing a black Derby hat, completely out
of place for the small Cajun town of Thibodaux, Louisiana.
When the Lord answered my prayer, He told me to go and open the bible,
for He also did the same before, He had to opened the scrolls to see
where it opened before starting his mission. I went as He command me,
and I took the large family bible and part it open, and it land on
this page, Genesis 3:15, "And I will put enmity between thee and the
woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head,
and thou shalt bruise his heel."
Now, are you a trained eye, Brother Brison? How often does the Lord
show you things, and yet you do not see the significant of it all?
Do you know the significance of what I just told you? Do you have any
understanding at all, my brother?
Allow me to explain, the elders like you like to analysis our problems
and give lectures to help us get closer to God. Yet, God in His
wisdom had to provide a better way to help his people establish Zion.
Every time God try to establish a Zion with elders like you He worked
daily to analysis problems, and to give lectures, and still failed to
establish Zion. So, God in His wisdom knew from the very beginning of
this world what Satan�s end would be like, and He knew that while
elders work to establish Zion, their work was in vain, unless they
could remove Satan authority over man�s hearts.
Oh, how I wish God could give me the power to explain it to you
Brother, but you must understand with words that I can give. I am not
sent to analysis the leaves of a tree, but to go to the root of that
tree and cut if off. While you work while there is still light in the
day to analysis the problems of man, and that is good, but not right
dear brother. If we are going to win this spiritual battle against
Satan we need to go to the root of the problems and cut it off at the
root. Your lectures about leaving Satan alone, defeats your
objective. We must capture Satan, and chain him up for a thousand
years of peace. And there is no other solution to man�s problems, we
must remove Satan, then men are free to learn about God.
You can spend another six thousand years trying to build up a Zion,
but you will never establish another Zion upon this earth until you
remove Satan authority over man, even Enoch had to remove his city
from Satan.
I was born to lead the priesthood in removing Satan, and chaining him
up. The Lord spoke to Joseph Smith about sending two servants that He
would call to do just that�.
(D&C 113:3-6)
3 What is the rod spoken of in the first verse of the 11th chapter of
Isaiah, that should come of the Stem of Jesse?
4 Behold, thus saith the Lord: It is a servant in the hands of Christ,
who is partly a descendant of Jesse as well as of Ephraim, or of the
house of Joseph, on whom there is laid much power.
5 What is the root of Jesse spoken of in the 10th verse of the 11th
chapter?
6 Behold, thus saith the Lord, it is a descendant of Jesse, as well as
of Joseph, unto whom rightly belongs the priesthood, and the keys of
the kingdom, for an ensign, and for the gathering of my people in the
last days.
-o-
What I am saying to you Brother Brison is that I am of the two
servants in the hands of the Lord, and the other one is my nephew.
Now, you could give us a lecture on "fears, jealousy, and unrighteous
dominion." And how Satan keeps us from received from the Lord greater
blessings, and power from heaven above by our giving in to fears,
jealousy, and unrighteous dominion.
(D&C 67: 10) "And again, verily I say unto you that it is your
privilege, and a promise I give unto you that have been ordained unto
this ministry, that inasmuch as you strip yourselves from jealousies
and fears, and humble yourselves before me, for ye are not
sufficiently humble, the veil shall be rent and you shall see me and
know that I am�not with the carnal neither natural mind, but with the
spiritual."
Can�t you see my dear brother, God is calling you to draw nigh to Him
with your heart, not with you lips. Then the veil shall be rent,
however, before that happens, you will have to confront the Devil, as
I have. This is the only way to greater blessings, you must overcome
your fears of confronting the Devil, and cast your jealousies of me
away. Will you not humble yourself before God, and prepare for
something special to happen in your life?
I have already seen the Devil, and a few angels of which I even had
conversations with, and the Lord who visited me while visiting Temple
Square. I know that my election made sure is not yet happened, for
when I saw the Lord, he did not allow me to see his face. My election
made sure will not happen until the veil covering his face is rent.
Now, I am sorry if I have offend you, it is in my nature to be the
way, but surely I must be doing something right to have done so much
for our heavenly father.
I have blessed, and I have cursed, and when I blessed the blacks, the
church said it couldn�t happen in our lifetime, but I asked God to
allow all worthy blacks to have the priesthood, and I did it for my
sister, and God answered me that year on my sister�s birthday, June
1st. (June 1st. Is the day that Prophet Kimball received the
revelation.)
Now, you may become jealous again, but that is up to you, dear
brother, to resist that temptation, I can only tell you what has
happened. And when I asked God to bring Prophet Kimball to me, he was
brought Kimball to meet me, and when Kimball saw my face, he could not
let go of my hand, and he proceed to bless up a storm for me.
Now, if I have a special mission, why would anyone want to make it
hard for me to accomplish? I understand that you do not know things
like I do, but I don�t want to make your tasks hard to accomplish.
However, that is a price I pay for having something that is special,
and it is the same price Noah, Moses, Elijah, Peter, Joseph Smith, Jr.
had to pay, for they did not expect others to understand what God has
allowed them to clearly see.
Now, it that were all that has happened, I would not have troubled you
with my boring story, but that is not all. I was trained in the
deeper doctrines of the church, and I applied the knowledge I learned
to approach God in mighty prayer, and I did ask God for great things
when I was younger. And God answered me many times. Know that I even
asked God to sent the future leader of Israel to my family, the one
that the Prophet Zechariah called "The Branch" [See Zech. 3:8], and
he was born to my family, not yours, not Joseph Smith�s, but mine
close family.
Now, I am related to Joseph Smith, so it will not trouble him so much
as it may trouble you, but you must overcome this jealousy and God
will bless you for it. But you can go the ways of Cain, and seek to
belittle things I told you, but know that the words of the Lord is
like a double-edged sword, it cuts both ways, it can either bless us,
or it can curse us if we are not ready to accept it. Therefore, I will
stop, and not say anything more, for I want to leave you a blessing,
and do not want you to fear that I will be a curse rather than a
blessing to you. Now, you know why many are called and few are chosen
to know more.
May our Lord bless you and your family,
Erick Gemmell a.k.a. Joshua
Zootal
"<'}}><" <endt...@non.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 13:23:53 -0800 (PST), Woody Brison
> <woody....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Much better to talk about God and his work. Then, that
>>fills our minds and Satan doesn't find much chance to
>>butt in.
>
<major snippage>
> Erick Gemmell a.k.a. Joshua
Do you cut and paste this stuff, or type it on the spot? You, sir, have way
too much time on your hands.
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Correction:
>Now, [if] that were all that has happened, I would not have troubled you
>with my boring story, but that is not all. I was trained in the
>deeper doctrines of the church, and I applied the knowledge I learned
>to approach God in mighty prayer, and I did ask God for great things
>when I was younger. And God answered me many times. Know that I even
>asked God to sent the future leader of Israel to my family, the one
>that the Prophet Zechariah called "The Branch" [See Zech. 3:8], and
>he was born to my family, not yours, not Joseph Smith�s, but mine
>close family.
[After I asked God to send The Branch to my family, and he was born
five months after I asked God. And I never told anyone what I had
asked God to do. For in silent prayer did I ask God. Yes, he was
born, and the LDS prophet sent a group of men to bless the child
without me helping to tell him. Who was it that told him?]
[What you are doing with my testimony, and that of others, does not
serve anyone here, but you.]
[My writing is not perfect, but the information is perfect, and you
just don't have the signs like I do, and you should not be against me
for this reason. I have many signs given to me, but I know that only
the Sage will consider it, and it is against the nature of God to
force intelligence upon your soul.]
[Take for example, the sign of "56" -- The bible testifies that 3
witness is a testimony of the truth, if you think not, then read if
read:]
[(D&C 5:15) "And the testimony of three witnesses will I send forth
of my word." Don�t you see Brother Brison is a pattern that God uses
to establish the truth of a matter, I have my testimony, my nephew�s
testimony, and church�s testimony, and you have what on your side?" IF
anyone were to claim what I claim, I believe it would be grounds for
removal of their names from church records, but no on can remove my
name, only me, because my testimony is back up by others in the
church.]
[And if that were all, but I also have numbers on my side, and what do
you have? Take for example, when the seventh day of the Lord began, I
was 44 years, 4 months, and 4 days old. On April 6, 2001, how old were
you, Brother Brison? Why don�t the numbers add up in your case? Don�t
you see, neither you or I have control on the day we are born, only
God. So, we a testimony of God that my life is different, but only a
Sage like the three wise Sages that came to see the Jesus Christ would
have understood. Now, if that were all, but my whole the deeper you
look in to it the more signs are given. Now for the sign of "56", the
LORD testifies that "�.As I live, even so will I come in the last
days, in the days of wickedness and vengeance, to fulfill the oath
which I have made unto you concerning the children of Noah; And the
day shall come that the earth shall rest, but before that day the
heavens shall be darkened, and a veil of darkness shall cover the
earth; and the heavens shall shake, and also the earth; and great
tribulations shall be among the children of men, but my people will I
preserve; And righteousness will I send down out of heaven; and truth
will I send forth out of the earth, to bear testimony of mine Only
Begotten; his resurrection from the dead; yea, and also the
resurrection of all men; and righteousness and truth will I cause to
sweep the earth as with a flood, to gather out mine elect from the
four quarters of the earth, unto a place which I shall prepare, an
Holy City, that my people may gird up their loins, and be looking
forth for the time of my coming; for there shall be my tabernacle, and
it shall be called Zion, a New Jerusalem." (Moses 7: 60-62) Yes,
Brother Brison, all my works nudges one towards these truths, and
never have I sought to convert you or another to do otherwise, so why
do you say you don�t have enough information? IT was not I but the
LORD who said, "But as it was in the days of Noah, so it shall be also
at the coming of the Son of Man;" [JS-M 1:41]
Now, why are there 3 witness backing up my testimony, but not yours? I
don�t think that there can be a greater witness than the one that God
gives, and He controls the day we were born. Now, in what way is your
birth compared to that of Noah�s birth? Were you born like a child of
the gods? Did the whole hospital come to see your beauty? We have
records that testify that Noah was a beautiful baby, just like me, and
I have pictures to prove it. Yes, everyone can testify I speak the
truth, when they see my baby pictures. Now, if that were all, but it
is not, then we have the three signs of "56", both Noah and I were
born in "56" - Noah born 1056, and I was born in 1956. Now, that is
only me, not you. Like the LORD said, "But as it was in the days of
Noah, so it shall be also at the coming of the Son of Man;" [JS-M
1:41]
NOW, here is a puzzle for you, if you add "56" to the year of my
birth, you have December 2012, now what does Mayan calendar taken from
the earth have to say about December 2012? The LORD said, in 120
years that judgment would come upon the earth, yes, the LORD did as he
foretold Enoch he would do. And the LORD said, "and truth will I send
forth out of the earth" - and where do you think the Mayan calendar
came from when it was unearthed? We have the Mayan calendar
predicting the end also, and the information is overload in my favor
that "56" testifies the truth of the matter. Now, you know that Noah
was living near the city of Enoch, because Noah was the great-grandson
of Enoch. And the church teaches that the Gulf of Mexico formed when
the city of Enoch left this earth. That the Gulf of Mexico is where
the city of Enoch once stood. Now, where would have Noah lived if you
draw a straight line between Adam-ondi-Ahman and the center of the
Gulf of Mexico (City of Enoch)? You have the same place where I was
born, I just like Noah, share the same place. I was born in New
Orleans. Now, if that were all, but it not, there are more signs, for
truth testifies of truth, and signs will abound for the Sage to see.
Gopher wood is Cypress wood. Did you know that there are logs that
sunk to the bottom of the Mississippi River, and when they are pull
out after a hundred years, the wood is still good, and valuable? Yes,
the earth testifies that Noah, built the ark here in Louisiana, yet
you like all the Doubting Thomas will not see all the signs.
In Scotland the better class of Scot live in the highlands, not the
lowlands of Scotland. The prophet of the LDS church teaches that God
brought the best bloodline to Scotland. The Pillar of Jacob, known as
the coronation stone, upon which the kings of Israel were crown is now
found in Scotland. Legend has it that where the stone is found, so
will you find the bloodline of the Grail Kings. Now, where does your
family come from, does the evidence point to Scotland? My family came
from Wanlockhead, Scotland, the highest village of all Scotland. There
is a museum there, and my family made the history books of England,
for my grandfather George, found while walk an often traveled road,
the largest gold nugget in the history of England. Now, did God do
the same for your family? Don�t you think that God had a reason for
providing my grandfather the means of leaving Wanlockhead, so I would
be born in America? Now, we have the testimony of the Rev. J. Moir
Porteous, the author of "The Government of The Kingdom of Christ," and
"The gold of that land is good" taken from his book "God�s Treasure
House In Scotland" p54 we have record of the gold that my
great-grandfather found at Wanlockhead in 1872, "and is of
considerable size, weighing about 10 lbs. Gemmell unfortunately broke
it into a number of pieces, and sold themto various individuals in the
district. With the assistance of Mr. Clark of Speddoch, Mr. Dudgeon
obtained the loan of all the pieces form their respective owners, and
having joined them together, he has had an ezuisite copy of the
restored mass executed I chromo and gold, which forms the frontispiece
of the "Notes," which is at once a handsome and most interesting
illustration of them. This discovery was first made public by Dr.
Grierson exhibiting a specimen at the "Society of Inquiry" in 1873."
This doesn�t really mean much to the untrained eye, Brother Brison,
except for the fact that the expert who examined the gold nugget said
that it was Australian. Didn�t the LORD say "and truth will I send
forth out of the earth", now we all know that money talks, and the
golden plates of Joseph Smith, and the gold nugget of my
great-grandfather talks allot, and both were witnessed by others.
Except for my family gold, one does not have to say, Where is it? For
my proof is still in the museum at Wanlockhead, and you can see a
picture of it on the net. George gave it to his father Andrew to
sell, it known as the Andrew Gemmell nugget. Now, I don�t have
degrade anyone position, to make my family look good, my family
history is different, and the more you look in to it, the more you
will see that mother earth took good care of Holy Grail line. For I
have lost count of how many treasures my family has from mother earth.
Even Andrew Gemmell was married to a Margaret Laidlaw, you can see her
picture on the internet, [
http://www.aiimhs.org.uk/Sites/Museum-of-Lead-Mining?view=zoomGntmlImage&iName=Peggy%20Gemmell&rName=centreDocument
]. The Laidlaw family is the richest family in Scotland today. Yes,
there is a reason why God has given wealth throughout my close and
distant relatives. And I have lost count of all the wealth that my
family has given up for righteousness, and the wealth it now has.
There must be a reason for all of this, don�t you think? Was your
family inline to inherit Greece? My cousins were, and you can read
about it in a book, "THE HISTORY OF MODERN GREECE, From Its Conquest
by The Romans B. C. 146, TO THE PRESENT TIME." by James Emerson, Esq.
of Trinity College, Dublin. Yes, I am related to Mary Balls, and her
husband was the last inline of the Constantine family.
The facts remain, that there is more to prove my line than anyone else
in the LDS church as having an special history, and didn�t the LORD
say there was going to be truth coming from the earth? So, where is
your proof, what did you family do that you can belittle my testimony?
Even today, my family moves in world affairs, and you have not seen
what will happen in 2012. My cousin Marco Antonio Sagastume Gemmell
is an expert for the United Nations, for human rights, and the author
of many books on human rights. And while I am not a writer, I did ask
God to send a great writer to my family clan, and David Gemmell the
author of legends and hero was raised up by the LORD, David is the
best England has ever produced, yes, God answered my prayers, and one
day God shall resurrect him to write my story. All of his books were
bestsellers.
Now, you must consider your stance Brother Brison, for there is no end
to the signs in my favor. As you know the Book of Mormon speaks of
Mulek, according to the Book of Mormon, King Zedekiah's son Mulek
escaped death and where does the LDS church believe the Mulek was
taken to? To the present-day America, and where in America? Do you
not believe the Book of Mormon? It says, all the sons of Zedekiah
were killed except for Mulek, and Mulek escaped into the wilderness
and traveled "across the great waters" to the Americas, founding a new
nation. The Mulekites established their capital at Zarahemla, north
of where Lehi and his people landed. And where does the LDS church
believe where the people of Zarahemala will be found? Mesoamerica,
Brother Brison, where my father was born. Now, doesn�t it make sense
you that the LORD has been mixing the royal line with others of the
royal line of the Grail Kings? Why did the LORD bring my grandfather
a ship captain, (his family built over 1300 ships) to Guatemala? My
grandfather was from England, yes, and his father from Scotland, but
we already know that the King Zedekiah had two daughters, one was take
to France, and the other to Ireland, both married into royal families,
and the one form Ireland ended up in England, where my family ancient
home is found, at Dunlop, Scotland, at a place called Templehouse. We
were neighbors to the Dunlops, who were the Scots, form which Scotland
got it name, don�t you know English history, the Scots were the
Stuarts, the House of Stuart (Scottish and English royal family) and
some of Gemmell married into that family, and you still don�t see my
point. There is more proof on my side than all you have said to prove
otherwise.
Now, you have it, the Holy Grail kings were taken to Central America,
Ireland then England, and France, and my family today comes from
Central America, England, and France. Yes, my nephew comes from
France through his father side. I can�t explain to you, for I am not a
writer, but Brother Vern Grosvenor Swanson can, he is author of
"Dynasty of The Holy Grail", he read all 400 texts of the Holy Grail.
He is a Mormon. I have corresponded with him, and he can tell you that
the LORD has been remixing the Holy Grail line throughout history. So,
that explains why my family comes from the only three places where to
blood is known to have been taken. And still in seeing the signs you
don�t admit it. I must stop, because even if Jesus Christ were to come
down and say it, there will be those who will doubt what they see.
You only have to compare my family motto, and family crest against all
the family coat of arms in the LDS church, and you would not even come
close to my family�s motto, and crest. My family motto, says, My
Heritage is Christ. Yes, it is written in Latin, and nobody in the
church can claim the same about their motto. So, it jealous that
keeps you from saying I right. Yes, my family crest is lion of Judah,
yes, it is totally different, from the lion seen on the royal family
of England. When you see the royal family of England coat of arms, it
has a lion on one side, and unicorn on the other side, the lion was
the symbol of the house of Judah, and the unicorn was the ancient
symbol for the tribes of Israel. Here is a picture:
[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_coat_of_arms_of_the_United_Kingdom
]
Now, my family crest is different, it is the lion arms crossed,
because we are not only of the tribe of Judah (the lion) but we are
the �arm of God� as was King David, the arm that lead Israel to
victory. And yes, I have proof, and you want more? The LDS prophet
sent a group of men to blessed my nephew, they blessed him with the
power of God in his right hand. Still, you will not believe it. Well,
it doesn�t matter to me, only I search to find the Sages that I will
bring to high positions in the kingdom of heaven. The LORD has
instructed me that those that didn�t have to faith to believe before I
come to power, are not to be chosen when I am giving place among the
seven seers of the holy menorah. God requires faith, and only those
like St. Peter will have a testimony from God, all the signs and
information in the world cannot change this fact. You either have it
or you don�t. I leave you with this to ponder, �.
The Alleged Fifty-Six-Year Second-Coming Prophecy of Joseph Smith:
http://www.shields-research.org/General/LDS_Leaders/1stPres/Joseph_Smith/56_Year.htm
Now, what did the Holy Ghost tell you Brother Brison, was Joseph Smith
wrong about the "56" prophecy?
It reduces to one point Brother Brison, either Joseph was wrong, or he
was right about "56".
I think he was right, but misunderstood. ..in 1890 there was a
widespread belief among Church members that Joseph Smith's prediction
of 1835, that 56 years would "wind up the scene," would be fulfilled.
�But such enthusiasm was short lived.� In 1903, Benjamin F.
Johnson...could not conceal his disappointment when he remarked that
"we were over 70 years ago taught by our leaders to believe that the
coming of Christ and the millennial reign was much nearer than we
believe it to be now.
Yes, we don�t have the original speech of Joseph Smith, but we know he
said "56 year" would "wind up the scene". And I have been trying to
convince you that what our Prophet Joseph Smith was talking about was
about me. Like in the days of Noah, so shall the wind up scene be, as
Noah was born in "56" (1056) so would Erick be born in "56" (December
1956), and if you added "56 years" to the date Erick was born, you
have December 2012, the same time that the Mayan colander ends. What
more proof do you need, if I am wrong, so was Joseph Smith.
- Erick Gemmell
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>> "Curmugeon" <gfuller1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:b247299e-bc9f-46c6...@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 3, 9:15 pm, Master Mahan <ea...@earth.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > Satan is mad with Mormons, because Satan can't have exaltation.
>>
>> > Actually, if that is a true statement, Satan must be a rather childish
>> > being. The "Mormons" have nothing to do with the fact that he cannot
>> > have exaltation.
>>
What is known about Satan is very little, since he is known to get rid
of anyone who reveals his secrets.
However, I will give more info on Satan, he is known by many names,
but I knew him personal as Lucifer.
I have had him visit me a few times here on earth, and he is slow
spoken chap, likes to shape-shift, and prefers to appear as a Mormon
Missionary when he comes to visit Mormons. However, demons have an
advantage over Satan, Satan always has a reddish tint in his head. And
he is a mind reader. Demons on the other hand are not as powerful as
Satan, but there are different degrees within the kingdom of hell. Do
you know the difference between a demon and a devil? A devil is a
demon is possession of a human body. If the demon is not in
possession of a body, then he is a spirit. That is why Satan is
called the Devil, because he is always in possession of someone�s
body.
What I gathered from my studies about the existence of Satan is that
he was the first one to discover this planet, called Earth. And
because he was first to discover it, the Gods gave him the keys of
this planet, these keys are the governing keys over this the earth,
whoever has these keys can command the elements.
NOW, your premise was to say, "The Mormons" have nothing to do with
the fact that [Satan] cannot have exaltation." How wrong you are, for
Mormons are the ones that are planning to evict Satan from this
planet. Satan is angry that we Latter-day Saints want to take what he
was first to discover. When Satan came down with his associates in
mass numbers he sought to create for himself a physical body, many of
the fossils we see of past worlds were experiments conducted by
Lucifer. Lucifer only became a fallen angel, when God intervened and
destroyed all the dinosaurs and ape men that he was working on.
Lucifer became Satan when he sought to destroy the works of God, which
God had placed upon this planet to sub-plant the works that Lucifer
had started.
What we have here is a take-over of planet earth, and the battle with
Lucifer over the rights to rule this planet. The spiritual warfare in
heaven, has taken on a different dominion now, he upon this earth, and
Lucifer is not under the rules that govern heaven, but he does follow
the rules that govern warfare here on earth. There a sort of treaty
between Satan and the Son of the Sun, called the Son of Man, Satan
will not enter the Temples that are holy, and Son of Man will not
enter the dark regions of this world. However, Mormons work to evict
Satan from this planet, and for that reason, Satan is angry with the
Latter-day Saints.
The only way that Mormons can evict Satan is by becoming gods, and
Satan needs this planet to become a creator, but the Gods in heaven
and the Mormons down here on earth keep foiling Satan�s plans.
- Erick Gemmell
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<woody....@gmail.com> wrote:
>We also have the promise (1 Nephi 13:39) that there will
>be more books coming forth.
My grandfather Alfred Gemmell owed one of the four surviving Mayan
texts which priests did not burn. I think my aunt has it, but perhaps
one of my cousins. IF they convert, the LDS church will get their
hands on it. By the way, my uncle and the president of Guatemala took
all the art treasures out of Guatemala during the overthrow of that
government, my uncle owned the first Guatemala airline, and he flew
out all the treasures the could, and money. So, in a way, I have
special information, but that in itself is not helpful, when you need
to touch and see it to believe what I said. However, you can find on
the internet that my uncle did in fact own the airline, and he worked
for the UN and he went back to start the land reform in Guatemala.
Also, my father aunt owns all the planes that fly people to Tikal, and
all the buses in Guatemala. My family owns to much in Guatemala to
even list, they have their hands in also everything you can think of.
Too bad they are not yet converted, I even have a cousin who owns her
own temple made of granite, about half the size of Salt Lake Temple.
Clever, but you have failed to know what is known, Woody. RetroProphet
is right, and I think you could have used a better analogy, but you
didn�t. I would have said like Google search engine, all information
in the universe can be had by remote viewers of the matrix, by
searching the universal searching engine, but using the matrix to see
things does not in itself constitute any telepathy with God, just the
use of the matrix search engine to access the database of the universe
we live in.
In other words, while we do have naturally gifted seers that inherit
the powers of seeing, like Joseph Smith, we also have technical remote
viewing that learn to see, but it in itself does not mean that these
technical remote viewer are in contact with a higher intelligences, or
that the natural born seer like Joseph Smith is accessing anything
more than knowledge he gain in the past life. Only prove that we have
access to the universe search engine. That goes for you, me, and
RetroProphet. I think its a better metaphor to use Google, however, I
think while man can and will use his natural gifts or those taught to
him, he does have special access the search engine the universe to
view all things, unless he has a Urim & Thummim, then he can only see
what�s in the special database, except that Joseph Smith thought that
Urim & Thummin were only training wheels to help develop his powers to
see. Now, if the Urim & Thummin special powers includes actual
telepathy with the higher intelligences throughout the universe then
we have something more than just access to a database knowledge, but
actual higher intelligences are involved.
Now, when we speak of knowing something to be certain, an absolute
certainly, then we are indeed as RetroProphet thinks at a
disadvantage, specially when speaking with intelligent people like
RetroProphet, because he always find holes in our Mormon approach to
things, that make even me reconsider everything. I not speaking
about the database of this universe matrix (sort of like a Google
search engine), but far from it, for all the understanding we Mormon
pride ourselves in knowing is filled with errors, but it takes someone
with the intelligence of RetroProphet to explain it to you Woody how
wrong Mormons are to believe in what they are taught to be truth,
without questioning it out of fears of God coming down and punishing
them for thinking outside the box. I do based my thoughts upon any
current understanding in scientific world, but upon faith.
RetroProphet will tell you that there is a big difference in you
understand of what is truth base upon faith, and what is scientific
fact. You Woody, are dealing in science fiction, not science fact.
Therefore, welcome to the club of faith, where information in the
universe may not be perfect, but ahead of the scientific curve.
There is no doubt in my mind that the prophets in the bible, like our
modern day prophets foresaw many of the of advancements in science,
but they lack the scientific terms to express. Like the air-condition
ducts, and elevators stalls that the church leaders were told to leave
inside the Salt Lake City Temple, before the invention of
air-condition, or elevators. When these things became available, they
fit just perfect. And like the CD library in the Washington D.C.
Temple. Clearly the Mormons were guided in these things, and the
biblical prophets also foresaw atomic weapons which they called
pillars of smoke, cars (chariots that jostle) with lamps
(headlights), airplanes that flew like eagles, subs like the brother
of Jared built, and many more of our modern world inventions.
Like I said, they Saints are ahead of the scientific curve, but it
takes a scientist to understand more and fully appreciate our modern
day wonders. However, when the perfect day comes, we will find out
that all humans were scientists before they were born, and we know
more than what is known by science today, we just need to have our
memories restored. When that perfect day comes, many of the science
fields of today will not be such an honored profession anymore,
because we will all be scientists. For example, the astronomers of
today will be the taxicab drivers of heaven. Little can be said about
doctors in the medical field where no one gets sick or dies.
- Erick Gemmell a.k.a. Joshua
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correction:
>In other words, while we do have naturally gifted seers that inherit
>the powers of seeing, like Joseph Smith, we also have technical remote
>viewing that learn to see, but it in itself does not mean that these
>technical remote viewer are in contact with a higher intelligences, or
>that the natural born seer like Joseph Smith is accessing anything
>more than knowledge he gain in the past life. [It] only prove that we have
>access to [this] universe search engine. That goes for you, me, and
>RetroProphet. I think its a better metaphor to use Google, however, I
>think while man can and will use his natural gifts or those taught to
>him, he does [NOT] have special access [to] search the universe to
>view all things, unless he has a Urim & Thummim, then he can only see
>what�s in the special database, except that Joseph Smith, [he] thought that
>Urim & Thummin were only training wheels to help [him] develop his powers to
>see. Now, if the Urim & Thummin special powers includes actual
>telepathy with the higher intelligences throughout the universe then
>we have something more than just access to a database [of] knowledge, but
>[we then have] actual higher intelligences involved, [which would bring a list of
question from RetroProphet, as to why these higher intelligence don't
want to make themselves known, or at least give us real hard facts
that we can test.]
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<RetroProp...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Woody Brison: "Another factor, the Spanish Conquistadores burned all
the native books they could find. Not much left to testify of the
Nephites, but some of their books and art is gradually coming forth."
- [Taken from "Leviticus 22" posted Dec 22, 2009 by Brison, Woody
a.k.a. Wood.]
To: RetroProphet
Is Woody the person you are referring to? When you precisely accused
him of not living up to his own words?
RetroProphet: "Could you point me to a bibliography of Nephite books?"
(NOTE: the hint of humor coming from the most staunchest atheist of
God) LOL
RetroProphet: "I was thinking Nephite books would make excellent
Christmas presents for some of the folks on my list, but I guess I'll
have to choose something else. Maybe next year. Right, Woody?" -
[Taken from RetroProphetīŋŊs response to "Leviticus 22" posted, Dec 23,
2009 at 1:57 pm.]
Seriously RetroProphet, we donīŋŊt have to resort to humor; Woody does
us a great service, he keeps us thinking. My imgination would not
have been triggered, nor your sarcasm and derogatory remarks about
Woody being the perfect example of his own words about unreliable
information being used for the basses of further investigations into
the existence of the alleged Nephites in the various works of Mormons
who operates on the principle of faith rather than the anthropology
which operates on the non-elusive principle of science. Please given
Woody a break, you well know that no Mormon prophet has ever stated
that science would ever catch-up with the discovering of God in the
universe, yet all the wonders of nature points to there being a
Creator who had a design and purpose in creating nature. Your god is
Dr. Albert Einstein, all scientists worship the ground the great
Einstein walked, thinking that its the greatests honor in the world
for a sceinteist to have known or worked or studied under this Jewish
man. Yes, he had faith.
Yet, in all honesty what did the scientist god Dr. Einstein know about
the study of anthropology? NOTHING!
Yet Dr. Einstein believed in the Creator; I know, you will claim that
he didnīŋŊt believe, but the truth remains that he did, only that he did
not believe the Creator to be a personal God as he is portrayed in the
holy scriptures. Therefore, I challenge you RetroProphet to prove to
us that Dr. Einstein did not exercise īŋŊfaithīŋŊ in thinking there was a
Creator who made the wonders of this univeres.
And I will not rely on what my friend John R. Tusson told me about Dr.
Einstein whom he knew and worked to with to develop a lab for him,
while he was a student at Princeton University on a Monsanto
fellowship to become a chemical engineer, that went on to develop a
new secret weapon for the United States and was made the an honorable
four-star Admiral of the U.S. Navy, for his work.
Yes, it would be unfair of me to use more that just random information
about Dr. Einstein, because it would be unfair to you were I to write
John Robert TussonīŋŊs biography, which he once asked me to do at his
sixty-arce estate, that is why I am well informed about Dr. Einstein
as a personal instructor whom John Tusson knew personally.
Instead I will rely upon what I know of Dr. Einstein and do a Google
search on the internet to find documents for you, and I expect you to
show us the same courtey and post your evidence of what Dr. Einsten
said about his beliefs and faith in a Creator.
Yes, it should be an easier task than searching the words of dead
Nephites, donīŋŊt you think? For logic tells me that if you cannot
prove anything whatsoever about a current modern person like Dr.
Einstein, then how fair would it be if he had lived during the time of
the Nephites? Very unfair.
- Erick Gemmell a.k.a. as Joshua
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corrections:
>And I will not rely on what my friend John R. Tusson told me about Dr.
Einstein whom he knew and worked with to develop a lab for him,
>while he was a student at Princeton University on a Monsanto
fellowship to become a chemical engineer, [then] went on to develop a
>new secret weapon for the United States and was made the an honorable
>four-star Admiral of the U.S. Navy for his work.
>
>Yes, it would be unfair of me to use more that just random information
>about Dr. Einstein, because it would be unfair to you were I to write
>John Robert Tusson�s biography, which he once asked me to do at his
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corrections:
>Seriously RetroProphet, we don�t have to resort to humor; Woody does
>us a great service, he keeps us thinking. My imgination would not
>have been triggered, nor your sarcasm and derogatory remarks about
>Woody being the perfect example of his own words about unreliable
>information being used for the basses of further investigations into
>the existence of the alleged Nephites in the various works of Mormons
>who operates on the principle of faith rather than the anthropology
which operates on the non-elusive principle of science. Please [give]