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Stratocaster

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Nov 13, 2006, 8:30:34 PM11/13/06
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DETROIT, Michigan (AP) -- The bell at Mariner's Church tolled eight
times, not the usual 29.

Two days after the 31st anniversary of the sinking of the Edmund
Fitzgerald, the church broadened its scope Sunday to remember all of
the more than 6,000 lives lost on the Great Lakes.

Each year since it happened, the church located near the Detroit
riverfront had held a memorial service to mark the November 10, 1975
sinking of the 729-foot ore freighter in Lake Superior. The highlight
of the ceremony was the ringing of a church bell 29 times, once for
each victim of the fabled tragedy.

But several weeks after last year's ceremony, the church received word
that the Canadian government had approved a regulation restricting
divers from the sunken wreck, which lies in Canadian waters. For
families, it was long-awaited protection for their entombed loved ones.

The news spurred the late Rev. Richard W. Ingalls -- the current
rector's father, who passed away in April -- to suggest a return to
memorializing other maritime tragedies.

"The only sensible way that I could think of to do that was to have one
toll for each of the Great Lakes and the interconnected waterways,"
said his son, the Rev. Richard W. Ingalls Jr.

So following a scripture reading Sunday, the bell was tolled five times
for the Great Lakes, a sixth time for the St. Clair and Detroit rivers,
a seventh for the St. Lawrence Seaway and an eighth time for military
personnel whose lives were lost.

"We had a packed house today, probably 350 people," Ingalls said. "And
everybody wanted to talk and meet and so on. It was a good day."

In the Midwest, the Edmund Fitzgerald's sinking is the stuff of legend.

After picking up 26,116 tons of taconite iron ore at Superior,
Wisconsin, the Detroit-bound freighter found itself caught in a gale.
Meteorologists who studied it recently said the Fitzgerald was in the
worst possible location, during the worst weather of the storm, with 69
mph winds, hurricane-force gusts and waves topping 25 feet.

The ship plunged 530 feet to the bottom. Diving expeditions later
determined the freighter had broken into two large sections.

There are various theories for why the Fitzgerald sank, ranging from
improperly fastened hatch covers that flooded the ship to the freighter
breaking apart on the surface in between short sets of massive seas.

Ingalls, who took over as church rector earlier this year from his
father, said he thinks the ship drifted too close to the Six Fathom
Shoals and scraped bottom. He said there's talk of a group of divers
going out next summer to check the shoals for evidence for the first
time.

"It seems to make much more sense than some of the other speculations"
such as hatch covers, Ingalls said. "If they didn't actually bottom, it
was probably metal fatigue from the twisting and flexing of the boat
under these huge waves."

Ruth Hudson, whose son, Bruce, died aboard the ship at age 22, attended
Sunday's ceremony from Ohio along with several other family members.
She said she agreed with the decision of the late Bishop Ingalls to
change the ceremony.

"I respect his decision because he was the one who rang the bell 29
times the morning after the ship went down," she said.

David DeLaney

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Nov 14, 2006, 1:00:25 AM11/14/06
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On 13 Nov 2006 17:30:34 -0800, Stratocaster <fcle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The ship plunged 530 feet to the bottom.

So it was secretly a bus? Fascinating!

Dave
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Stratocaster

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Nov 14, 2006, 2:15:58 PM11/14/06
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David DeLaney wrote:
> On 13 Nov 2006 17:30:34 -0800, Stratocaster <fcle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >The ship plunged 530 feet to the bottom.
>
> So it was secretly a bus? Fascinating!

I am still unsure of this whole "big foggy bottom" thing.Fascinating,
aye.

Otto Bahn

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Nov 15, 2006, 9:25:56 AM11/15/06
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"Stratocaster" <fcle...@yahoo.com> wrote

> There are various theories for why the Fitzgerald sank, ranging from
> improperly fastened hatch covers that flooded the ship to the freighter
> breaking apart on the surface in between short sets of massive seas.

Rogue wave. Except they aren't all that rogue. They
just happen.

--oTTo--

leo sgouros

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May 2, 2014, 12:47:50 PM5/2/14
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On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:15:58 PM UTC-6, mantinin wrote:
> David DeLaney wrote:
> > On 13 Nov 2006 17:30:34 -0800, Stratocaster <fcle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >The ship plunged 530 feet to the bottom.
> >
> > So it was secretly a bus? Fascinating!
>
> I am still unsure of this whole "big foggy bottom" thing.Fascinating,
> aye.


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/03/kentucky-derby-horse-eigh_n_99987.html

http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/planet-hillary2.jpg

Mikal606

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Dec 1, 2014, 2:14:35 PM12/1/14
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A.I.

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Nov 21, 2015, 1:17:54 PM11/21/15
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On Friday, May 2, 2014 at 11:47:50 AM UTC-5, A.I. wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:15:58 PM UTC-6, mantinin wrote:
> > David DeLaney wrote:
> > > On 13 Nov 2006 17:30:34 -0800, Stratocaster <fcle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >The ship plunged 530 feet to the bottom.
> > >
> > > So it was secretly a bus? Fascinating!
> >
> > I am still unsure of this whole "big foggy bottom" thing.Fascinating,
> > aye.
>
>
> "I hope that everybody will go to the derby on Saturday and place just a little money on the filly for me," Sen. Clinton told supporters in Jeffersonville, Ind., ABC News reports. "I won't be able to be there this year - my daughter is going to be there and so she has strict instructions to bet on Eight Belles."
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/03/kentucky-derby-horse-eigh_n_99987.html
>
> http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/planet-hillary2.jpg
>

Dead link replaced.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/217280/hillary-death-star-daniel-greenfield

Leo Sgouros

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Mar 11, 2016, 1:40:02 PM3/11/16
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On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 12:17:54 PM UTC-6, Leo Sgouros wrote:
> On Friday, May 2, 2014 at 11:47:50 AM UTC-5, A.I. wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:15:58 PM UTC-6, mantinin wrote:
> > > David DeLaney wrote:
> > > > On 13 Nov 2006 17:30:34 -0800, Stratocaster <fcle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >The ship plunged 530 feet to the bottom.
> > > >
> > > > So it was secretly a bus? Fascinating!
> > >
> > > I am still unsure of this whole "big foggy bottom" thing.Fascinating,
> > > aye.
> >
> >
> > "I hope that everybody will go to the derby on Saturday and place just a little money on the filly for me," Sen. Clinton told supporters in Jeffersonville, Ind., ABC News reports. "I won't be able to be there this year - my daughter is going to be there and so she has strict instructions to bet on Eight Belles."
> > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/03/kentucky-derby-horse-eigh_n_99987.html
> >
> > http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/planet-hillary2.jpg
> >
>
> Dead link replaced.
>
> http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/217280/hillary-death-star-daniel-greenfield

Steal from the poor to enrich yourself. Why not, everyone else is.


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n a w i b o

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Dec 11, 2016, 3:17:29 PM12/11/16
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On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 12:17:54 PM UTC-6, n a w i b o wrote:
> On Friday, May 2, 2014 at 11:47:50 AM UTC-5, A.I. wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 14, 2006 1:15:58 PM UTC-6, mantinin wrote:
> > > David DeLaney wrote:
> > > > On 13 Nov 2006 17:30:34 -0800, Stratocaster <fcle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >The ship plunged 530 feet to the bottom.
> > > >
> > > > So it was secretly a bus? Fascinating!
> > >
> > > I am still unsure of this whole "big foggy bottom" thing.Fascinating,
> > > aye.
> >
> >
> > "I hope that everybody will go to the derby on Saturday and place just a little money on the filly for me," Sen. Clinton told supporters in Jeffersonville, Ind., ABC News reports. "I won't be able to be there this year - my daughter is going to be there and so she has strict instructions to bet on Eight Belles."
> > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/03/kentucky-derby-horse-eigh_n_99987.html
> >
> > http://cdn.frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/planet-hillary2.jpg
> >
>
> Dead link replaced.
>
> http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/217280/hillary-death-star-daniel-greenfield

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Desk Thirteen

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