Q
Marc Goodman
Mark Hill
> Can something be so retro that it's post-modern?
The determination of whether or not something can be so retro that it's
postmodern obviously introduces so many of your own biases into the
analysis that the question is completely meaningless.
Jeremy D. Impson
Answer the damn question, Mark.
--Jeremy
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Eb Oesch
jdim...@acm.spam.org says...
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Mark Hill wrote:
>
> > Marc Goodman wrote:
> >
> >> Can something be so retro that it's post-modern?
> >
> > The determination of whether or not something can be so retro that it's
> > postmodern obviously introduces so many of your own biases into the
> > analysis that the question is completely meaningless.
>
> Answer the damn question, Mark.
"Is <x> post-modern?" is like "What would your benignly insane uncle
do?" It's a valid question, but it's not clear what the answer is good
for.
If you view your soup bowl as a little room and the noodles and beef
chunks as little bits of furniture, then you can ask yourself, "What
does feng shui say my alphabet soup?" You could arrange the letters in
a disharmonious fashion and place your soup bowl on the kitchen floor as
an ant trap. The workers carry the negative energy back with them and
infect the whole colony with malaise.
Mark South
news:Pine.LNX.4.60.04...@monster.apt.net...
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Mark Hill wrote:
>
> > Marc Goodman wrote:
> >
> >> Can something be so retro that it's post-modern?
> >
> > The determination of whether or not something can be so retro that it's
> > postmodern obviously introduces so many of your own biases into the analysis
> > that the question is completely meaningless.
>
> Answer the damn question, Mark.
OK. The term "postmodern" (it's not nor-mally hyphen-ated unless you want to
look a little un-comfortable with the word) is a troll trap for the un-wary.
It's "post" as in, "beyond every-thing" rather than "post" as in "taking place
after a certain date".
So Marc and Mark have been trolled by postmodernism. This is pretty un-aware,
since the word has been a-round for a-bout the last eight dec-ades.
And Mark has been trolled by Jeremy, who may not have ex-pected a dif-ferent
Mark to reply.
IHBT. IWHAND.
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-- M.
Mark Hill
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Mark Hill wrote:
>
>> Marc Goodman wrote:
>>
>>> Can something be so retro that it's post-modern?
>>
>>
>> The determination of whether or not something can be so retro that
>> it's postmodern obviously introduces so many of your own biases into
>> the analysis that the question is completely meaningless.
>
>
> Answer the damn question, Mark.
Oh, you'd like that, WOULDN'T YOU?
James Vandenberg
> "Is <x> post-modern?" is like "What would your benignly insane uncle
> do?" It's a valid question, but it's not clear what the answer is good
> for.
>
> If you view your soup bowl as a little room and the noodles and beef
> chunks as little bits of furniture, then you can ask yourself, "What
> does feng shui say my alphabet soup?" You could arrange the letters in
> a disharmonious fashion and place your soup bowl on the kitchen floor as
> an ant trap. The workers carry the negative energy back with them and
> infect the whole colony with malaise.
I so wanted the last word in that sentence to be ``mayonnaise''.
Ja-ant-salad-mes
Darla Vladschyk
>If you view your soup bowl as a little room and the noodles and beef
>chunks as little bits of furniture, then you can ask yourself, "What
>does feng shui say my alphabet soup?" You could arrange the letters in
>a disharmonious fashion and place your soup bowl on the kitchen floor as
>an ant trap. The workers carry the negative energy back with them and
>infect the whole colony with malaise.
This is lovely! Really!
-=D=-
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in the house." ---Celeste Jarrett
Mark South
news:u00fac...@192.168.1.254...
Go for broke and change the whole last line:
"...invest the whole colon with mayonnaise."
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-- M.
Go on, invest my colon with
mayonnaise, I dare you.
Marc Goodman
> The term "postmodern" (it's not nor-mally hyphen-ated unless you want to
> look a little un-comfortable with the word)
From Google:
Results 1 - 10 of about 488,000 for "post-modern"
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,150,000 for "postmodern"
It seems bad for me so far, BUT WAIT!!!?!
Giant Battle Monsters
Strength: 4
Agility: 6
Intelligence: 2
Postmodern is a Human-Sized Lizard that Stomps Around a Lot, swats
Aeroplanes like Flies, Hovers Eerily, and has Acid for Blood.
vs
Strength: 11
Agility: 2
Intelligence: 4
Post-modern is a Collosal Moth that is Worshipped as a God, shoots
Electricity from its Eyes, is in League with Dark Forces and Easily
Confused, Freezes Solid when Cold, and eats Nuclear Waste.
When attacking:-
Strength: 4
Agility: 6
Intelligence: 2
When defending against postmodern:-
Strength: 11
Agility: 2
Intelligence: 4
(Vulnerable to Cold.)
Post-modern wins!
HAHA I OWNZ U!~!!
James Kibo Parry
>
> Eb Oesch (ericb...@hotmail.com) wrote:
> >
> > "Is <x> post-modern?" is like "What would your benignly insane uncle do?"
> > It's a valid question, but it's not clear what the answer is good for.
"What is the answer to '<x>' good for?" is a useful question, unless
you ask "What is the answer to 'Is <x> post-modern?' good for?", in
which case, the correct answer is to shout "</x>! </x>! </x>!" and
close your Web browser before flashing images of Cowboy X start popping
up in front of everything you ever try to look at. If you're infeXted
by Cowboy X, there is no eXcape, and you muXt burn your computer before
the infeXtion spreads to your neighborX.
> > If you view your soup bowl as a little room and the noodles and beef
> > chunks as little bits of furniture, then you can ask yourself, "What
> > does feng shui say my alphabet soup?" You could arrange the letters in
> > a disharmonious fashion and place your soup bowl on the kitchen floor as
> > an ant trap. The workers carry the negative energy back with them and
> > infect the whole colony with malaise.
>
> I so wanted the last word in that sentence to be ``mayonnaise''.
X also wanXed the laXt Xord in XhaX senXenXX tX bX "maXonnaiXe".
> Ja-ant-salad-mes
Xxxxxxx!
-- X.
Xxxxxx xxx xxxxx,
xxx xxxx xxxxqx.
Bryce Utting
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Mark Hill wrote:
>>> Can something be so retro that it's post-modern?
>>
>> The determination of whether or not something can be so retro that it's
>> postmodern obviously introduces so many of your own biases into the analysis
>> that the question is completely meaningless.
>
> Answer the damn question, Mark.
*sigh*.
The determination of whether or not something can be so retro that
it's postmodern obviously introduces so many of your own biases into
the analysis that the question is completely meaningless, ayyyyy.
butting
John D Salt
news:cagsdh$f5b$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz:
OK, I think I see a market here for a new punctuation mark, which
one would put where the "ayyyyy" is, which indicates that the
foregoing sentence is the answer, or at least the only goddam
anwser you're damwell-getting. An answer mark, instead of a
question mark. It might also be combined with an exclamation
mark to form the anti-puncticle of the interrobang. The
respondobang, probably.
I now intend to obtain funding from the EPSRC to conduct research
into the question of what the typographical appearance of these
marks should be.
All the best,
Gokmop Salt,
The High Energy Punctuation Laboratory,
Gokmop Towers,
S. Wales.
James Kibo Parry
>
> Bryce Utting (but...@ihug.co.nz) wrote:
> >
> > Mark Hill (mh...@epicentre.net) wrote:
> > >
> > > Marc Goodman (marc.g...@comcast.net) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Can something be so retro that it's post-modern?
> > >
> > > The determination of whether or not something can be so
> > > retro that it's postmodern obviously introduces so many of
> > > your own biases into the analysis that the question is
> > > completely meaningless.
> >
> >
> > The determination of whether or not something can be so
> > retro that it's postmodern obviously introduces so many of
> > your own biases into the analysis that the question is
> > completely meaningless, ayyyyy.
>
> OK, I think I see a market here for a new punctuation mark, which
> one would put where the "ayyyyy" is, which indicates that the
> foregoing sentence is the answer, or at least the only goddam
> anwser you're damwell-getting. An answer mark, instead of a
> question mark. It might also be combined with an exclamation
> mark to form the anti-puncticle of the interrobang. The
> respondobang, probably.
I think what we need are two marks. One for the general case of
"Ayyyyyyyyy", and then the one you propose, which would be just
for "Ayyyyyyy, sit on it!"
> I now intend to obtain funding from the EPSRC to conduct research
> into the question of what the typographical appearance of these
> marks should be.
>
> All the best,
>
> Gokmop Salt,
> The High Energy Punctuation Laboratory,
> Gokmop Towers,
> S. Wales.
"Ayyyyyyyy, sit on it!" is a very high-energy interjection, so
whatever symbol represents it would have to be followed by another
symbol representing three to five exclamation points (four to nine
on weekends.)
The other one we would need when answering questions is the extremely
firm period. You need three of them when you say "No, I'm not going
to let you out of that chastity belt. Ever. Goodbye."
-- K.
Those little keys flush
down the toilet so gracefully,
it's a thing of beauty.
Bryce Utting
>> The determination of whether or not something can be so
>> retro that it's postmodern obviously introduces so many of
>> your own biases into the analysis that the question is
>> completely meaningless, ayyyyy.
>
> OK, I think I see a market here for a new punctuation mark, which
> one would put where the "ayyyyy" is, which indicates that the
> foregoing sentence is the answer, or at least the only goddam
> anwser you're damwell-getting. An answer mark, instead of a
> question mark. It might also be combined with an exclamation
> mark to form the anti-puncticle of the interrobang. The
> respondobang, probably.
if dropping the ayyyyy overtones is okay, I'd suggest an umlauted
period. advantages are that the meaning of an upside-down "therefore"
sign can be fairly easily grokked, and also that it can be easily
rendered in TeX and LaTeX.
('\".', if I remember my farting-around-with-LaTeX-instead-of-writing-
my-thesis days right)
> I now intend to obtain funding from the EPSRC to conduct research
> into the question of what the typographical appearance of these
> marks should be.
already done\". way cool, right\"? also, I can see a future where
instead of using hand-hacked versions of Leader Kibo's newsreader,
we'll all have to read ARK with a TeX/dvi/ps toolchain. HOW COOL IS
THAT?\!?\!?\!
butting
Whosetitanelbow
berichtnieuws...news:F%byc.8154$2i5.4934@attbi_s52:
> Can something be so retro that it's post-modern?
>
>
That's what post-modernism in design actually means; see Robert Venturi's
book about Las Vegas.
--
``The nuclear bomb, does that bother you?...I just want you to think big,
Henry, for Christsakes.'' -- R.M. Nixon
Glenn Knickerbocker
>The other one we would need when answering questions is the extremely
>firm period. You need three of them when you say "No, I'm not going
>to let you out of that chastity belt. Ever. Goodbye."
Do they have to be firm when they occur, or is it okay just to let them
congeal before using them? Because it would be a lot of work to have to
spread that utterance out over the course of two months.
ŹR http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/arkville.html
"Doesn't that shred your buns?" --T.M. Pederson
David DeLaney
>already done\". way cool, right\"? also, I can see a future where
>instead of using hand-hacked versions of Leader Kibo's newsreader,
>we'll all have to read ARK with a TeX/dvi/ps toolchain. HOW COOL IS
>THAT?\!?\!?\!
ITYM "THAT\!?\!?\!?", YM!
Dave "once programmed in TeX, but only once" DeLaney
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