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Mark Twain: A Dialogue

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Feb 24, 2001, 9:03:02 PM2/24/01
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I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
window. I'm thinking a nice, secular name like Jeff, or Geoff, or Brian,-
if you have Irish roots, as I do,- would serve the purpose adequately. But
for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
ATHEIST" to me. It seems the path of bringing up your children in an
atheistical household is hedged with inherent dangers concerning
nomenclature, as you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is
not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.

Sincerely,
Zbignew Hympatia-Haus

Karl E. Taylor

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Feb 24, 2001, 9:09:28 PM2/24/01
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Well, we named our son

Justin Michael Anthony

I guess having the name of an archangel in there does qualify as
theistic. But then again, we were believers at that time.

Amazing, but now our son is more of an atheist then anything else.

Hmmmmmmm.

Of course it was more then 15 years ago as well.

Wonderful how people can change throughout the years, ain't it?
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redrum

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Feb 24, 2001, 9:57:23 PM2/24/01
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In article <tagutcow-240...@a010-0563.gnb2.splitrock.net>,
tagu...@nr.infi.net says...

Brian/Bryan is a VERY popular name in Scotland and Ireland, from what
I've heard. And it never seems to go out of style in the US either. (The
Irish spell it with an "i", the Scots with a "y", so if you're Irish use
the "i" spelling.) Charles is another name you might consider, or maybe
the derivative Carl. Buy a baby names book and mark all the ones that
don't have Christian origins, then talk with your SO and narrow it down.


Mike Millerman

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Joshua E Millard

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Feb 24, 2001, 9:50:21 PM2/24/01
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Mark Twain: A Dialogue (tagu...@nr.infi.net) uttered:

> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
>brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,

Well, I was named Joshua by people of differing (Judeo-Christian) branches
of religion -- it my have been a theistic choice, but it may just as well
have been a Treeistic choice.

I'm just excited to find out whether or not we're going to start seeing
white trash kids with Pokemon names.

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Der Senfmeister

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Mark Twain: A Dialogue <tagu...@nr.infi.net> wrote in message
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My name is Zachary, and it doesn't bother me one bit. I actually kinda like
it... not too popular, not too weird. *shrug*

<computer science analogy that may not make sense to non-programmers>
To me, a name is just a pointer. The data is there; it doesn't really
matter *what* you call the pointer, just the thing it points to.
</csatmnmstnp>

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Beable van Polasm

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Feb 24, 2001, 11:06:14 PM2/24/01
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tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain: A Dialogue) writes:
> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
> brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
> Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
> window.

Godhater.

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satchi

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Feb 25, 2001, 1:59:54 AM2/25/01
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Mark Twain: A Dialogue wrote:
>

> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
> brought up in an atheistical household.

I grew up with a girl named Lorna. Nobody asked her if she believed
in God, they always asked how she was DOONE.

Satchi
Jethro: "You can call me Beef."
Girl: "I'd rather call you Jerky!"
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Joshua E Millard

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Feb 24, 2001, 10:50:20 PM2/24/01
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Der Senfmeister (Idon'tlik...@all.com) uttered:

>
><computer science analogy that may not make sense to non-programmers>
>To me, a name is just a pointer. The data is there; it doesn't really
>matter *what* you call the pointer, just the thing it points to.
></csatmnmstnp>

Eh. But, see, that's no good; a name, really, is more like a neuron. The
primary synaptic connection is to the data, sure, but there are all sorts
of other connections as well. You name a kid Elmer, right? People who
know him hear "Elmer" and think of him -- but they also think of glue and
Fudd (and, by tangent, Microsoft). You name him Jim instead and they think
of The Doors and Beam and exercise equipment.

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Ranjit Bhatnagar

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Feb 24, 2001, 11:46:35 PM2/24/01
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Mark Twain: A Dialogue wrote:
>
> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
> brought up in an atheistical household.

For a girl: Madalyn
For a boy: Murray
For an airport: O'Hare

r.

Michelle Malkin

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Feb 24, 2001, 11:53:11 PM2/24/01
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Silly question. Most names have totally lost names with
their origins. Most people either name their kids after
someone in their family or whom they admire or just choose
a name that they like. Some people choose names that
represent their ethnic or cultural heritage and some just
make up totally new names. It's up to the individual. I do
have to admit that I can't see very many atheists naming
their sons Jesus or Krishna or Christian or Muhamad or
Moses, though. And, personally, I love the name Rhiannan.


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Feb 24, 2001, 11:57:27 PM2/24/01
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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 04:06:14 GMT, Beable van Polasm
<bea...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain: A Dialogue) writes:
>> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
>> brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
>> Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
>> window.
>
>Godhater.
>
>cheers
>Beable van Polasm

And, the ever-popular Drink Beer For Your Stomach's Sake.
Those Puritan names were something else.

Der Senfmeister

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Poot Rootbeer <po...@dork.com> wrote in message
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> "Der Senfmeister" <Idon'tlik...@all.com> wrote:
> >My name is Zachary, and it doesn't bother me one bit. I actually
> >kinda like it... not too popular, not too weird. *shrug*
>
> HELLO ZACHARYAWN!
>
> -Poot

alrighty then...

Der Senfmeister

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Joshua E Millard <pu...@WPI.EDU> wrote in message
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> Der Senfmeister (Idon'tlik...@all.com) uttered:
> >
> ><computer science analogy that may not make sense to non-programmers>
> >To me, a name is just a pointer. The data is there; it doesn't really
> >matter *what* you call the pointer, just the thing it points to.
> ></csatmnmstnp>
>
> Eh. But, see, that's no good; a name, really, is more like a neuron. The
> primary synaptic connection is to the data, sure, but there are all sorts
> of other connections as well. You name a kid Elmer, right? People who
> know him hear "Elmer" and think of him -- but they also think of glue and
> Fudd (and, by tangent, Microsoft). You name him Jim instead and they
think
> of The Doors and Beam and exercise equipment.

Well, yeah, but I don't think it changes things *that* much. A name may
also affect its owner in some cases, like naming your kid Syphilis (I've
actually heard of someone naming their kid that. How stupid can you be?),
but for 'average' names I don't think it really matters.

Darla VladsChyk

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Feb 25, 2001, 12:30:08 AM2/25/01
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:03:02 -0500, tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain:
A Dialogue) wrote:

> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be

>brought up in an atheistical household. ... you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is


>not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
>also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
>dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.


We are confident that we avoided these problems by naming our children
Crab Rangoon, Knab Utah, and C++.

-=Darla=-

Otto Bahn

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Feb 25, 2001, 12:31:23 AM2/25/01
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Mark Twain: A Dialogue wrote:
>
> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
> brought up in an atheistical household.

This atheistical (we're really more apatheistic -- there is
not is enough evidence to even care about the subject) house
holds that picking names is a question of aesthetics. And
yes, we celebrate traditions like Xmas. If we liked "Moses"
we'd use it.

--oTTo--

The Owen

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Feb 25, 2001, 1:15:28 AM2/25/01
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Mark Twain: A Dialogue wrote:
>

Jed The Humanoid.

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satchi

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Joshua E Millard wrote:
>
> Der Senfmeister (Idon'tlik...@all.com) uttered:
> >
> ><computer science analogy that may not make sense to non-programmers>
> >To me, a name is just a pointer. The data is there; it doesn't really
> >matter *what* you call the pointer, just the thing it points to.
> ></csatmnmstnp>
>
> Eh. But, see, that's no good; a name, really, is more like a neuron. The
> primary synaptic connection is to the data, sure, but there are all sorts
> of other connections as well. You name a kid Elmer, right? People who
> know him hear "Elmer" and think of him -- but they also think of glue and
> Fudd (and, by tangent, Microsoft). You name him Jim instead and they think
> of The Doors and Beam and exercise equipment.

Yeah, and don't forget "the dead guy".

Satchi
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in the bible. It's the sound
their feet made when they
stepped on dead Christians
or maybe donkey poop.
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satchi

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Ummm, crab rangoon...why'd you'd have to make me think of
those at 1:30 AM dammit!

satchi

The Owen

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Therion Ware

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On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:27:01 -0700, "Der Senfmeister"
<Idon'tlik...@all.com> wrote in alt.atheism:

>Mark Twain: A Dialogue <tagu...@nr.infi.net> wrote in message
>news:tagutcow-240...@a010-0563.gnb2.splitrock.net...
>> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
>> brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
>> Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
>> window. I'm thinking a nice, secular name like Jeff, or Geoff, or Brian,-
>> if you have Irish roots, as I do,- would serve the purpose adequately. But
>> for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
>> ATHEIST" to me. It seems the path of bringing up your children in an
>> atheistical household is hedged with inherent dangers concerning
>> nomenclature, as you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is
>> not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
>> also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
>> dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Zbignew Hympatia-Haus
>
>My name is Zachary, and it doesn't bother me one bit. I actually kinda like
>it... not too popular, not too weird. *shrug*

Are you now, or have you ever, worked on the Jupier II?
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Der Senfmeister

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I have no idea what that is... Does that answer your question?

Carl Wilson

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Tukla Ratte

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On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:03:02 -0500, in alt.atheism, Mark Twain: A
Dialogue wrote:

> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
> brought up in an atheistical household.

We're not technically an "atheistic household", and it certainly didn't
enter my mind when choosing a name. We went with Caelin Orlando Hunter
Keeney. Is any of this Biblical? I have no idea. I got "Orlando" from
the Greg Egan book _Diaspora_.

(I'm trying to remember what we'd picked out for the girl's name, if
Caelin had been a girl. I know the middle names were Nyssa Janae, but I
can't remember what the first name was. I got "Nyssa" from _Doctor
Who_. <smile>)

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:14:35 GMT, in alt.atheism, Mike Millerman wrote:

> j spaceman
> frankie
> bardo
> liam

Liam is *such* a cool name.

Fantod

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Feb 25, 2001, 8:02:48 AM2/25/01
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[Beable van Polasm]:

>tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain: A Dialogue) writes:
>> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children
>> to be
>> brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like
>> Jonathan, Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you
>> will,- are *so* out the window.
>
>Godhater.

Misophist.
Heresiarch.

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Alex

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Feb 25, 2001, 8:27:56 AM2/25/01
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Actually, I would like to name my first daughter Eris (goddess of discord).


Bob Flaminio

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"Mark Twain: A Dialogue" <tagu...@nr.infi.net> wrote in message
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> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to
be
> brought up in an atheistical household.

George W.?

-Bob

John Hattan

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tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain: A Dialogue) wrote:

> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be

>brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
>Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the

>window. I'm thinking a nice, secular name like Jeff, or Geoff, or Brian,-
>if you have Irish roots, as I do,- would serve the purpose adequately. But
>for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
>ATHEIST" to me. It seems the path of bringing up your children in an
>atheistical household is hedged with inherent dangers concerning
>nomenclature, as you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is
>not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
>also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
>dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.

"I'm naming my next son Jason, because I just love Biblical names."
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Xcott Craver

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Darla VladsChyk <Darl...@hfx.remove.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
>We are confident that we avoided these problems by naming our children
>Crab Rangoon, Knab Utah, and C++.

Regarding computer terms used as names, I always thought
"Alet" and "Jidl" would make lovely names. (ALET == access list
entry token, JIDL == I think, Java Interface Definition Language.)

Well, maybe Jidl would be a good cat name, but Alet is IMHO
a better boy's name than Alex, Allen or Aglet.

>-=Darla=-
-S

["Jidl" would be pronounced, "yeedle." Jidl the cat!]

chibiabos

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In article <tagutcow-240...@a010-0563.gnb2.splitrock.net>,

Mark Twain: A Dialogue <tagu...@nr.infi.net> wrote:

> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
> brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
> Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
> window. I'm thinking a nice, secular name like Jeff, or Geoff, or Brian,-
> if you have Irish roots, as I do,- would serve the purpose adequately. But
> for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
> ATHEIST" to me. It seems the path of bringing up your children in an
> atheistical household is hedged with inherent dangers concerning
> nomenclature, as you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is
> not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
> also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
> dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.

How about "Gonzo"?

-chib

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i'll think it strange that normal mortals can

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MEow

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The alien which happened to be occupying the body of "Der Senfmeister"
<Idon'tlik...@all.com> on Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:27:01 -0700 wrote:

<ka-schnip>


>
>My name is Zachary, and it doesn't bother me one bit. I actually kinda like
>it... not too popular, not too weird. *shrug*
>

><computer science analogy that may not make sense to non-programmers>
>To me, a name is just a pointer. The data is there; it doesn't really
>matter *what* you call the pointer, just the thing it points to.
></csatmnmstnp>

Actually I think that names a more that just that (I'm a
non-programmer, but I got your point Btw ;0)) - It's what we present
ourselves with - how well would you think products with crappy names
sell? Or to stay in your computer-analogy - how many people would go
to a home-page with a bad name? I'm not saying that we use our names
to sell ourselves, only that names does matter - it has to do with
self-identity and identity. When someone uses your name, you can't
help feeling some sort of reaction - as all people do. It more than
just the name of a pointer...

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Xcott Craver (Caj@B_r_a_i_n_H_z.c_o_m) uttered:

>Darla VladsChyk <Darl...@hfx.remove.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
> Well, maybe Jidl would be a good cat name, but Alet is IMHO
> a better boy's name than Alex, Allen or Aglet.
^^^^^

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Der Senfmeister (Idon'tlik...@all.com) uttered:
>
>Well, yeah, but I don't think it changes things *that* much. A name may
>also affect its owner in some cases, like naming your kid Syphilis (I've
>actually heard of someone naming their kid that. How stupid can you be?),
>but for 'average' names I don't think it really matters.

It matters. It really, really matters. Cuz, see, if your name is Joshua,
then when street evangelists interrupt your busking and ask you what your
name is, and you say "Josh" or "Joshua", they say, "Oh, that's a good
Christian name. Have you found Christ, Joshua?"

Whereas if your name is, like, Chaim, they say, "Oh, that's a lovely
name. Is your family Jewish? Have you found Christ, Chaim?"

But if your name is -- at least for the purposes of the conversation --
Fuckwit, they pretty much leave, and if they don't you know that it's time
to grab your guitar case and run.

See?

Chris Nelson

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"Mark Twain: A Dialogue" <tagu...@nr.infi.net> wrote in
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..

> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming
children to be
> brought up in an atheistical household.

Godfrey (God-free)
Darwin

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Fred Stone

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I've always liked the ever-popular "Eubadam." :-)

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It's not over 'til you download the fat lady singing.


MEow

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The alien which happened to be occupying the body of
tukla...@tukla.net (Tukla Ratte) on Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:41:00 GMT
wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:14:35 GMT, in alt.atheism, Mike Millerman wrote:
>
>> j spaceman
>> frankie
>> bardo
>> liam
>
>Liam is *such* a cool name.

Are we only talking about boys names? If not then Amanda is such a
beautiful name...

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Beable van Polasm

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"Chris Nelson" <c...@chrisnelsonREMOVETHIS.net> writes:
> "Mark Twain: A Dialogue" <tagu...@nr.infi.net> wrote in
> message
> news:tagutcow-240...@a010-0563.gnb2.splitrock.net.
> ..
> > I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming
> children to be
> > brought up in an atheistical household.
>
> Godfrey (God-free)

Godhaytarr (God-hater)
Duhfiler (De-filer)
Blasfemer (Blas-phemer)
Unbeeleever (Un-believer)

> Darwin

HEY! How come you didn't explain this one? What is it? "(Dar-Ween)"?
I don't get it.

cheers
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Lance Thrust

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Xaonon

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In article <Bi9m6.2659$3y4.9...@typhoon2.ba-dsg.net>, Caj@B_r_a_i_n_H_z.c_o_m
(Xcott Craver) wrote:

> Well, maybe Jidl would be a good cat name, but Alet is IMHO
> a better boy's name than Alex, Allen or Aglet.

How about Womzley?

> ["Jidl" would be pronounced, "yeedle." Jidl the cat!]

Even more addictive to say than "beable"! All together now:

JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL!

(And quit scrambling my newsgroups like this. You guys are already infiltrating
sci.physics.)

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Mikal 606

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"Xaonon" <xao...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
news:xaonon-B79D48....@news.ne.mediaone.net...

> In article <Bi9m6.2659$3y4.9...@typhoon2.ba-dsg.net>,
Caj@B_r_a_i_n_H_z.c_o_m
> (Xcott Craver) wrote:
>
> > Well, maybe Jidl would be a good cat name, but Alet is IMHO
> > a better boy's name than Alex, Allen or Aglet.
>
> How about Womzley?
>
> > ["Jidl" would be pronounced, "yeedle." Jidl the cat!]
>
> Even more addictive to say than "beable"! All together now:
>
> JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
JIDL
> JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
JIDL
> JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
JIDL!
>
> (And quit scrambling my newsgroups like this. You guys are already
infiltrating
> sci.physics.)
>

all your physic are belong to us


A=B=A

Heathen Bastard

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Feb 25, 2001, 4:16:16 PM2/25/01
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In article <tagutcow-240...@a010-0563.gnb2.splitrock.net>,
tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain: A Dialogue) wrote:

> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be

> brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
> Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
> window. I'm thinking a nice, secular name like Jeff, or Geoff, or Brian,-
> if you have Irish roots, as I do,- would serve the purpose adequately. But
> for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
> ATHEIST" to me. It seems the path of bringing up your children in an
> atheistical household is hedged with inherent dangers concerning
> nomenclature, as you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is
> not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
> also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
> dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.

Well, aving a "religious" name has never caused me any grief. Both of
the kids my mother had got saddled with extremely yid names.
My mother - who was an undecided agnostic when she was pregnant, and is
now an atheist - just liked the sound of the names.

As do I. I *like* hebrew & yiddish names. I care less what "meaning"
the rest of the world wants to load on them.

Of course, I'm not likely to ever breed, so the point is largely moot.

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Iain Inkster

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Names with no religious connections.

David

Felicity

Stella

Rowan

Hazel

Tiger Lilly

Use your imaginations!

Mark Twain: A Dialogue wrote in message ...


> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
>brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
>Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
>window. I'm thinking a nice, secular name like Jeff, or Geoff, or Brian,-
>if you have Irish roots, as I do,- would serve the purpose adequately. But
>for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
>ATHEIST" to me. It seems the path of bringing up your children in an
>atheistical household is hedged with inherent dangers concerning
>nomenclature, as you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is
>not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
>also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
>dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.
>

> Sincerely,
> Zbignew Hympatia-Haus


Theresa Willis

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:01:12 GMT, Beable van Polasm
<bea...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>"Chris Nelson" <c...@chrisnelsonREMOVETHIS.net> writes:
>
>> Darwin
>
>HEY! How come you didn't explain this one? What is it? "(Dar-Ween)"?
>I don't get it.
>

I think it means "dolphin", but I'm not sure what dolphins have to do
with atheism.

--Terri

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Joshua E Millard

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Iain Inkster (ia...@inker.com) uttered:

>Names with no religious connections.
>
>David
>
>Use your imaginations!

I am now imagining that "David" has no religious connections. Goliath
just had, like, a stroke, man.

redrum

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In article <97c36r$vc9$1...@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, pu...@WPI.EDU says...

>
>Iain Inkster (ia...@inker.com) uttered:
>>Names with no religious connections.
>>
>>David
>>
>>Use your imaginations!
>
>I am now imagining that "David" has no religious connections. Goliath
>just had, like, a stroke, man.

I like Brian myself. Remember Monty Python's Life of Brian? :)

Heathen Bastard

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In article <97bus8$afq$1...@slb5.atl.mindspring.net>, "Mikal 606"
<mika...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> "Xaonon" <xao...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> news:xaonon-B79D48....@news.ne.mediaone.net...
> > In article <Bi9m6.2659$3y4.9...@typhoon2.ba-dsg.net>,
> Caj@B_r_a_i_n_H_z.c_o_m
> > (Xcott Craver) wrote:
> >
> > > Well, maybe Jidl would be a good cat name, but Alet is IMHO
> > > a better boy's name than Alex, Allen or Aglet.
> >
> > How about Womzley?
> >
> > > ["Jidl" would be pronounced, "yeedle." Jidl the cat!]
> >
> > Even more addictive to say than "beable"! All together now:
> >
> > JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
> > JIDL
> JIDL
> > JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
> > JIDL
> JIDL
> > JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
> > JIDL
> JIDL!
> >
> > (And quit scrambling my newsgroups like this. You guys are already
> infiltrating
> > sci.physics.)
> >
>
> all your physic are belong to us

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL
ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ...

Theresa Willis

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:44:53 -0800, Heathen Bastard
<heathen...@godisdead.com> wrote:

>In article <97bus8$afq$1...@slb5.atl.mindspring.net>, "Mikal 606"
><mika...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> "Xaonon" <xao...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
>> news:xaonon-B79D48....@news.ne.mediaone.net...
>> > In article <Bi9m6.2659$3y4.9...@typhoon2.ba-dsg.net>,
>> Caj@B_r_a_i_n_H_z.c_o_m
>> > (Xcott Craver) wrote:
>> >
>> > > Well, maybe Jidl would be a good cat name, but Alet is IMHO
>> > > a better boy's name than Alex, Allen or Aglet.
>> >
>> > How about Womzley?
>> >
>> > > ["Jidl" would be pronounced, "yeedle." Jidl the cat!]
>> >
>> > Even more addictive to say than "beable"! All together now:
>> >
>> > JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
>> > JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
>> > JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
>> > JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL!
>> >
>> > (And quit scrambling my newsgroups like this. You guys are already
>> > infiltrating sci.physics.)
>> >
>>
>> all your physic are belong to us
>
>ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL
>ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ...

PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE
PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE PUKE ...

Darla VladsChyk

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On 25 Feb 2001 17:47:19 GMT, pu...@WPI.EDU (Joshua E Millard) wrote:

>Xcott Craver (Caj@B_r_a_i_n_H_z.c_o_m) uttered:
>>Darla VladsChyk <Darl...@hfx.remove.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Well, maybe Jidl would be a good cat name, but Alet is IMHO
>> a better boy's name than Alex, Allen or Aglet.


*I* never said any such thing! Wrong attribution! BZZZZT!!

-=Darla=-

The Owen

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Joshua E Millard wrote:
>
> Xcott Craver (Caj@B_r_a_i_n_H_z.c_o_m) uttered:
> >Darla VladsChyk <Darl...@hfx.remove.eastlink.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Well, maybe Jidl would be a good cat name, but Alet is IMHO
> > a better boy's name than Alex, Allen or Aglet.
> ^^^^^
>
> __ _ _ _ ___
> / _(_) __ _| | ___| ||__ \
> | |_| |/ _` | |/ _ \ __|/ /
> | _| | (_| | | __/ |_|_|
> |_| |_|\__, |_|\___|\__(_)
> |___/

I know... it's a duck being fed into a wood-chipper.

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Schwa Love

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Caj@B_r_a_i_n_H_z.c_o_m (Xcott Craver) wrote in
<Bi9m6.2659$3y4.9...@typhoon2.ba-dsg.net>:

>Darla VladsChyk <Darl...@hfx.remove.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>
>>We are confident that we avoided these problems by naming our children
>>Crab Rangoon, Knab Utah, and C++.
>
> Regarding computer terms used as names, I always thought
> "Alet" and "Jidl" would make lovely names. (ALET == access list
> entry token, JIDL == I think, Java Interface Definition Language.)

Ahh! My initials are JDL and I always used to pronounce it "jidl" when I
was a wee one (wow, has it already been three whole weeks since then?).

> ["Jidl" would be pronounced, "yeedle." Jidl the cat!]

Oh. Never mind then.

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The Owen

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Mikal 606 wrote:
>
> "Xaonon" <xao...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> news:xaonon-B79D48....@news.ne.mediaone.net...
> > In article <Bi9m6.2659$3y4.9...@typhoon2.ba-dsg.net>,
> Caj@B_r_a_i_n_H_z.c_o_m
> > (Xcott Craver) wrote:
> >
> > > Well, maybe Jidl would be a good cat name, but Alet is IMHO
> > > a better boy's name than Alex, Allen or Aglet.
> >
> > How about Womzley?
> >
> > > ["Jidl" would be pronounced, "yeedle." Jidl the cat!]
> >
> > Even more addictive to say than "beable"! All together now:
> >
> > JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
> JIDL
> > JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
> JIDL
> > JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL JIDL
> JIDL!
> >
> > (And quit scrambling my newsgroups like this. You guys are already
> infiltrating
> > sci.physics.)
> >
>
> all your physic are belong to us
>
> A=B=A

<At which point, the snipers concealed around Owen's monitor opened
fire>

*BANG*

*BANG* *BANG*

"WHat you sa..." *BANG*

(That's quite enough of that.)

> > --
> > Xaonon, EAC Chief of Mad Scientists and informal BAAWA, aa #1821, Kibo #:
> 1
> > Visit The Nexus Of All Coolness (a.k.a. my site) at http://xaonon.cjb.net/
> > "The universe would be better with out franz heymann. Any group of people
> > would be better with out the slime." -- Kurt Stocklmeir, in sci.physics

The Owen

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That was my mum's middle name and she reckons it should count as child
abuse.

Bob Dog

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tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain: A Dialogue) wrote in <tagutcow-
24020121...@a010-0563.gnb2.splitrock.net>:

> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
>brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
>Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
>window. I'm thinking a nice, secular name like Jeff, or Geoff, or Brian,-
>if you have Irish roots, as I do,- would serve the purpose adequately. But
>for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
>ATHEIST" to me. It seems the path of bringing up your children in an
>atheistical household is hedged with inherent dangers concerning
>nomenclature, as you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is
>not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
>also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
>dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.

Here's a few unrequested thoughts from me:

1) Go ethnic. You say you're Irish, so choose a
traditional, pre-xian imperialism name from the
isles. (My real first name's a Celtic name with
no religious overtones, I like it. ^_^)

2) Remember the "Back To The Future" movies? How
about naming kids like Doc Brown did his dogs,
after scientists and great thinkers: Darwin, or
Archie (Archimedes).

3) Choose a name that's a big "up yours" to the
religious community (*if* they know how to read).
Try names from mythology, especially names that
confront their stupidity. (I changed my middle
name to Raziel, the xian mythology's corruption
of the Greek myth of Prometheus, for that reason.)


Bob Dog
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John Burrage

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tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain: A Dialogue) wrote:

> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
>brought up in an atheistical household.

Off topic, but found this in a name book on Saturday: "Dodo".

Worst girl's name ever.
--
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Phi1ip Legge

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Someone claiming to be John Burrage jumped up and down on their computer
keyboard several times, and what came out in alt.religion.kibology was:

>tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain: A Dialogue) wrote:
>
>> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
>>brought up in an atheistical household.

> Off topic, but found this in a name book on Saturday: "Dodo".
>
> Worst girl's name ever.

I think the name must have had a vogue in the 50's or 60's - the
long-running BBC sci-fi series Doctor Who had a companion named Dodo who
appeared on the show for a year or so. My sympathies for anyone stuck with
such a bad name...

Later companions in the series had equally bad names, such as "Tegan",
"Perpugilliam" (!?!? "Peri" for short!) and "Ace" (a nickname for her real
name of Dorothy).

Cheers, Phi1ip
--
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Jedburgh: Four hundred "rads", ladies and gentlemen - a lethal dose to
anyone within a radius of ten yards. Get it while it's hot! ... Hey, what's
the matter? Don't you all want to be part of the new age of plutonium
lunacy?
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satyr

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Feb 26, 2001, 1:15:35 AM2/26/01
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Judas if it's a boy and Jezebel if it's a girl. Other choices:

Ingersol
Voltaire
Magdelaina
Sinthia
Lesbia

>>
>> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be

>> brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
>> Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
>> window. I'm thinking a nice, secular name like Jeff, or Geoff, or Brian,-
>> if you have Irish roots, as I do,- would serve the purpose adequately. But
>> for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
>> ATHEIST" to me. It seems the path of bringing up your children in an
>> atheistical household is hedged with inherent dangers concerning
>> nomenclature, as you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is
>> not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
>> also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
>> dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.
>>

>> Sincerely,
>> Zbignew Hympatia-Haus

Michelle Malkin

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:41:00 GMT, tukla...@tukla.net
(Tukla Ratte) wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:14:35 GMT, in alt.atheism, Mike Millerman wrote:
>
>> j spaceman
>> frankie
>> bardo
>> liam
>
>Liam is *such* a cool name.

Especially when your mental father is an alien.

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Beable van Polasm

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na...@na.da (redrum) writes:
> In article <97c36r$vc9$1...@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, pu...@WPI.EDU says...
> >Iain Inkster (ia...@inker.com) uttered:
> >>Names with no religious connections.
> >>
> >>David
> >>
> >>Use your imaginations!
> >
> >I am now imagining that "David" has no religious connections. Goliath
> >just had, like, a stroke, man.

And what's the name of that symbol on Israel's flag? Ooh I forget.

> I like Brian myself. Remember Monty Python's Life of Brian? :)

NO I FORGOT ALL ABOUT THAT TOO. PLEAsE TELL US MORE ABOUT THIS
BRIAN BECAUSE YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY THE ONLY ONE WITH THiS KNOWLEDGE.

cheers
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Beable van Polasm

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now...@nospam.com (Bob Dog) writes:
> 2) Remember the "Back To The Future" movies? How
> about naming kids like Doc Brown did his dogs,
> after scientists and great thinkers: Darwin, or
> Archie (Archimedes).

Yes of course! You could name one of your children after
the world's greatest scientist, Archimedes Plutonium, and
name your second child after the world's second greatest
scientist, George "Puke" Hammond.

cheers
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Der Senfmeister

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John Burrage <john.b...@health.wa.gov.au> wrote in message
news:3a99e8f4...@165.118.47.168...

> tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain: A Dialogue) wrote:
>
> > I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
> >brought up in an atheistical household.
>
> Off topic, but found this in a name book on Saturday: "Dodo".
>
> Worst girl's name ever.

My roommate wants to name his daughter (if he ever has one) Ororo.

--
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Der Senfmeister

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MEow <nik...@wanadoo.spammustdie.dk> wrote in message
news:do8i9tgjli9nrgbvq...@4ax.com...

> Actually I think that names a more that just that (I'm a
> non-programmer, but I got your point Btw ;0)) - It's what we present
> ourselves with - how well would you think products with crappy names
> sell? Or to stay in your computer-analogy - how many people would go
> to a home-page with a bad name? I'm not saying that we use our names
> to sell ourselves, only that names does matter - it has to do with
> self-identity and identity. When someone uses your name, you can't
> help feeling some sort of reaction - as all people do. It more than
> just the name of a pointer...

Well, yeah, if somebody named their kid Fuckwit (to use joshua's example) it
would have an effect on things, but I don't think there's a difference with
"average" names. I'm sure I'd still be the same person if my name were
Austin rather than Zachary, you know?

Mark Twain: A Dialogue

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In article <masj9t4a6fmpkos43...@4ax.com>, satyr
<RsEaM...@infidels.org> wrote:

Around a bozo, everything becomes a satyrplay...

> Judas if it's a boy and Jezebel if it's a girl. Other choices:

I don't know my Bible stuff like I should, but Cee-Lo Goodie informs me
that Judas the betrayer came true in the end. Jezebel puts out on a first
date.

> Ingersol

And if your maiden name is Ingersoll, and marry a guy whose last name is
Rand, the family name will be Ingersoll-Rand. What could be a more fitting
tribute to not only American atheism, but American industry. Lay me on an
anvil, oh Ingersoll-Rand, beat me and hammer me into a *crow*bar, let me
pry loose old walls...

> Voltaire

Yeah, and Kurt Cobain was a heroin casualty.

> Magdelaina
> Sinthia
> Lesbia

Whoah, maaan, your questioning of the established order is challenging my
preconcieved notions, maaan. Mister preacher man is all "Don't do this, do
that...", and you're all "No, do the *opposite* of that." Theism is like,
popular, and you're unafraid to show the world how so far past high school
you are by dedicating your life to challenging the popularity LIE. So are
you like that Marilyn Manson DOOD? Whoah, that stuff is OUT THERE.

Sincerely,
Abortion Santa Claus SHUP! SHUP! THWACK!

satchi

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Bob Dog wrote:

> Here's a few unrequested thoughts from me:
>
> 1) Go ethnic.

Yeah, my hero: "Doc Challah day"

Satchi
Yes! That's my
"bagels and lox"
car freshener
hanging from the
rearview mirror.
http://www.bombhumor.com

satchi

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satyr wrote:
>
> Judas if it's a boy and Jezebel if it's a girl. Other choices:
>
> Ingersol
> Voltaire
> Magdelaina
> Sinthia
> Lesbia
>

"Placemat" is good if you're going for the
androgynous thing.


satchi
"Hiney" is a front row name, too.
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Kenneth Doyle

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Der Senfmeister wrote:

> Mark Twain: A Dialogue <tagu...@nr.infi.net> wrote in message
> news:tagutcow-240...@a010-0563.gnb2.splitrock.net...


> > I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be

> > brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
> > Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
> > window. I'm thinking a nice, secular name like Jeff, or Geoff, or Brian,-
> > if you have Irish roots, as I do,- would serve the purpose adequately. But
> > for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
> > ATHEIST" to me. It seems the path of bringing up your children in an
> > atheistical household is hedged with inherent dangers concerning
> > nomenclature, as you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is
> > not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
> > also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
> > dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Zbignew Hympatia-Haus
>

> My name is Zachary, and it doesn't bother me one bit. I actually kinda like
> it... not too popular, not too weird. *shrug*
>
> <computer science analogy that may not make sense to non-programmers>
> To me, a name is just a pointer. The data is there; it doesn't really
> matter *what* you call the pointer, just the thing it points to.
> </csatmnmstnp>


>
> --
> Der Senfmeister
> Minister, ULC
> a.a. #1732

As a computer programmer, I disagree. If I am making a structure that describes
a person, I find it much easier to use names for variables that invoke the
property they represent. Which is easier to deal with, variables like 'weight',
'height' etc. or 'dklea', 'alkiej' (meaningless character sequences)? Of
course, you're right in that it really doesn't matter to the computer itself,
but that sort of proves my point (sort of); the computer doesn't have to
understand the variable names in the same way that we do; in the same way that
it is unavoidable, once having been taught to do so, for us to associate words
with concepts.


Wayland

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Mark Twain: A Dialogue wrote:
>
> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
> brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
> Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
> window. I'm thinking a nice, secular name like Jeff, or Geoff, or Brian,-
> if you have Irish roots, as I do,- would serve the purpose adequately. But
> for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
> ATHEIST" to me. It seems the path of bringing up your children in an
> atheistical household is hedged with inherent dangers concerning
> nomenclature, as you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is
> not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
> also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
> dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.
>
> Sincerely,
> Zbignew Hympatia-Haus

Moon-unit, looks like it has potential.


Wayland

Wayland

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Michelle Malkin wrote:
>
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:41:00 GMT, tukla...@tukla.net
> (Tukla Ratte) wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:14:35 GMT, in alt.atheism, Mike Millerman wrote:
> >
> >> j spaceman
> >> frankie
> >> bardo
> >> liam
> >
> >Liam is *such* a cool name.
>
> Especially when your mental father is an alien.
>

This reminds me of a show that I haven't seen in years. It involved a
girl who was half-alien. She could stop time, and do other cool stuff.
I remember part of the theme song, "Would you like to swing on a star,
carry moon beams home in a jar, and be better off than you are, or would
you like to go to Earth?"

I remember thinking it was real cool, of course, I was like 9 or 10 at
the time.


Wayland

Nick Bensema

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In article <3A9A84FF...@hotmail.com>,

Wayland <termina...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>This reminds me of a show that I haven't seen in years. It involved a
>girl who was half-alien. She could stop time, and do other cool stuff.
>I remember part of the theme song, "Would you like to swing on a star,
>carry moon beams home in a jar, and be better off than you are, or would
>you like to go to Earth?"
>
>I remember thinking it was real cool, of course, I was like 9 or 10 at
>the time.

I remember seeing that. It came on right after Charles in Charge, which
is probably why it stayed on the air for more than a year. The mother
from that show would later do a Psychic Friends commercial.

It had a moment or two, but I think today I'd be embarassed to watch it,
much like Married With Children.


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Plorkwort

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The moving finger of Wayland wrote <termina...@hotmail.com:

>This reminds me of a show that I haven't seen in years. It involved a
>girl who was half-alien. She could stop time, and do other cool stuff.
>I remember part of the theme song, "Would you like to swing on a star,
>carry moon beams home in a jar, and be better off than you are, or would
>you like to go to Earth?"

http://shorty.mudcat.org/!!-song99.cfm?stuff=fall99+D+11840064
"From Bing Crosby's singing in "Going My Way," recorded by Burl Ives"

Plorkwort
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consume itself until ash and stove are one, and heat is gone from the earth.'
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Nick Bensema

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In article <BIvm6.20487$Yx4.7...@news6.giganews.com>,

Nick Bensema <ni...@fnord.io.com> wrote:
>In article <3A9A84FF...@hotmail.com>,
>Wayland <termina...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>This reminds me of a show that I haven't seen in years. It involved a
>>girl who was half-alien. She could stop time, and do other cool stuff.
>>I remember part of the theme song, "Would you like to swing on a star,
>>carry moon beams home in a jar, and be better off than you are, or would
>>you like to go to Earth?"
>>
>>I remember thinking it was real cool, of course, I was like 9 or 10 at
>>the time.
>
>I remember seeing that. It came on right after Charles in Charge, which
>is probably why it stayed on the air for more than a year. The mother
>from that show would later do a Psychic Friends commercial.

P.S. That same show, I believe, came on Saturday mornings, preceding
a block of lame syndicated sitcoms with super-wacky premises: the
new Munsters show, that show about the talking ventriloquist dummy,
and probably Harry and the Hendersons too. The kind of shows I think
network execs designed to get kids hooked on sitcoms early,
taking a cue from Saved by the Bell.

Not to mention this was when Charles in Charge was running on thin ice;
most plots revolved around Charles having to juggle certain obligations
when he had to stay home and watch the kids, the youngest of whom was
only 16. The only thing that kept the show alive was frequent Ben
Stein guest appearances.

But rather than raise my tolerance for bad TV, I think it made me
a little more sensitive to it. I might never have noticed if it
had been just mediocre.

Joe Manfre

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ni...@fnord.io.com (Nick Bensema) wrote:

>Not to mention this was when Charles in Charge was running on thin
>ice; most plots revolved around Charles having to juggle certain
>obligations when he had to stay home and watch the kids, the
>youngest of whom was only 16. The only thing that kept the show
>alive was frequent Ben Stein guest appearances.

Nick, let's not discount the importance of Willie Aames appearing
as Charles' good buddy whatshisname. Seeing Willie Aames every
week was kind of like getting to watch "Bibleman" long before the
first "Bibleman" movie was made! And you can't beat that. Even
if I can't seem to remember the name of that pizza parlor they
were always hanging out at. The important thing is that if I try
really hard, I might get the "Charles in Charge" theme song stuck
in my head, and that will drive out the high-school football cheer
that's been stuck in there since yesterday. What is the topic
sentence of this paragraph, anyway?


JM

Wayland

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While at work reading this thread, I came across these last names in a
project I'm working on:

Despot and Devine.


Wayland

Mike Dahmus

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Pontius or Herod would be my choices.

Mike Dahmus
http://www.io.com/~mdahmus/

Andrew Pearson

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The Owen wrote:
>
> Joshua E Millard wrote:
> >
> > Xcott Craver (Caj@B_r_a_i_n_H_z.c_o_m) uttered:
> > >Darla VladsChyk <Darl...@hfx.remove.eastlink.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, maybe Jidl would be a good cat name, but Alet is IMHO
> > > a better boy's name than Alex, Allen or Aglet.
> > ^^^^^
> >
> > __ _ _ _ ___
> > / _(_) __ _| | ___| ||__ \
> > | |_| |/ _` | |/ _ \ __|/ /
> > | _| | (_| | | __/ |_|_|
> > |_| |_|\__, |_|\___|\__(_)
> > |___/
>
> I know... it's a duck being fed into a wood-chipper.
>

How many ducks would a wood-chipper chip if a wood-chipper
chipped ducks?

(and not "dicks" as one so very nearly typed).

--
So Archimedes Plutonium is tied to a stake in the backyard, and
sleeping in his kennel. Kibo tiptoes up (carrying a dustbin lid)
and measures the length of the chain Arch is tied to, then marks
a radius on the ground...


MEow

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The alien which happened to be occupying the body of "Der Senfmeister"

<Idon'tlik...@all.com> on Mon, 26 Feb 2001 00:34:35 -0700 wrote:
>
>> Actually I think that names a more that just that (I'm a
>> non-programmer, but I got your point Btw ;0)) - It's what we present
>> ourselves with - how well would you think products with crappy names
>> sell? Or to stay in your computer-analogy - how many people would go
>> to a home-page with a bad name? I'm not saying that we use our names
>> to sell ourselves, only that names does matter - it has to do with
>> self-identity and identity. When someone uses your name, you can't
>> help feeling some sort of reaction - as all people do. It more than
>> just the name of a pointer...
>
>Well, yeah, if somebody named their kid Fuckwit (to use joshua's example) it
>would have an effect on things, but I don't think there's a difference with
>"average" names. I'm sure I'd still be the same person if my name were
>Austin rather than Zachary, you know?

You'd probably still be the same person, but it does make a difference
how you present yourself. I like my name a lot (both handle and my RL
name ;0)). People do tend to put some meaning into names - like in
Denmark no one would name their son Brian because of the meaning the
name has gotten, to take a more extreme example (calling someone "A
Brian" is actually an insult - as in "He's such a Brian!"), but also
less problematic names - as just a name that's considered ugly in the
time the person wears it. Someone mentioned his mother having a
problem with the middle name "Amanda" while I think it's very
beautiful - but then again, names come in waves - actually you can
call it a fashion. Here old, Danish names are getting very fashionable
with young parents...

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>^..^<
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EAC - Spanker of Theists

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Iain Inkster

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Beable van Polasm wrote in message ...

>na...@na.da (redrum) writes:
>> In article <97c36r$vc9$1...@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, pu...@WPI.EDU says...
>> >Iain Inkster (ia...@inker.com) uttered:
>> >>Names with no religious connections.
>> >>
>> >>David
>> >>
>> >>Use your imaginations!
>> >
>> >I am now imagining that "David" has no religious connections. Goliath
>> >just had, like, a stroke, man.

The actual origins of the word are not religious.

Mikal 606

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"Iain Inkster" <ia...@inker.com> wrote in message
news:97e81h$ani$3...@plutonium.btinternet.com...

>
> Beable van Polasm wrote in message ...
> >na...@na.da (redrum) writes:
> >> In article <97c36r$vc9$1...@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, pu...@WPI.EDU says...
> >> >Iain Inkster (ia...@inker.com) uttered:
> >> >>Names with no religious connections.
> >> >>
> >> >>David
> >> >>
> >> >>Use your imaginations!
> >> >
> >> >I am now imagining that "David" has no religious connections. Goliath
> >> >just had, like, a stroke, man.
>
> The actual origins of the word are not religious.


happify visualnet


MEow

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The alien which happened to be occupying the body of The Owen

<spm...@my-deja.com> on Mon, 26 Feb 2001 05:18:28 +0000 wrote:
>> >
>> >> j spaceman
>> >> frankie
>> >> bardo
>> >> liam
>> >
>> >Liam is *such* a cool name.
>>
>> Are we only talking about boys names? If not then Amanda is such a
>> beautiful name...
>>
>
>That was my mum's middle name and she reckons it should count as child
>abuse.

I love it, I think it speaks of a strong and independent woman, plus I
have a slight clue as to what it means...

--
>^..^<
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EAC - Spanker of Theists

"If not, then just change it illegally and hide from the Birthday Law Enforcement Agency.
(BLEA)" YADJ

Brian E. Clark

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Der Senfmeister (Idon'tlik...@all.com) wrote:

> > Are you now, or have you ever, worked on the Jupier II?
>
> I have no idea what that is... Does that answer your question?

A likely story, Dr. Smith.

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Mark Twain: A Dialogue (tagu...@nr.infi.net) wrote:

> But for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream
> "RUGGED AMERICAN ATHEIST" to me.

Hey! :)

If you need some reassurance as to the, erm, manliness of the
name, I can stop by your house, down a Guinness and clonk you in
the head with the glass. ;-)

I'm not really up for belting a stranger, mind you, but I don't
want you to fear that any Brian you raise would be unable to
defend himself.

Therion Ware

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On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:59:10 -0500, lo...@sig.for.address (Brian E.
Clark) wrote in alt.atheism:

>Der Senfmeister (Idon'tlik...@all.com) wrote:
>
>> > Are you now, or have you ever, worked on the Jupier II?
>>
>> I have no idea what that is... Does that answer your question?
>
>A likely story, Dr. Smith.

I knew it was him. Only Dr. Smith would deny the obvious. Now we just
need to check for back pain and a low opinion of robots!!
--
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In article <BIvm6.20487$Yx4.7...@news6.giganews.com>, Nick Bensema
<ni...@fnord.io.com> wrote:

}In article <3A9A84FF...@hotmail.com>,
}Wayland <termina...@hotmail.com> wrote:
}>
}>This reminds me of a show that I haven't seen in years. It involved a
}>girl who was half-alien. She could stop time, and do other cool stuff.
}>I remember part of the theme song, "Would you like to swing on a star,
}>carry moon beams home in a jar, and be better off than you are, or would
}>you like to go to Earth?"
}>
}>I remember thinking it was real cool, of course, I was like 9 or 10 at
}>the time.
}
}I remember seeing that. It came on right after Charles in Charge, which
}is probably why it stayed on the air for more than a year. The mother
}from that show would later do a Psychic Friends commercial.

That big fat jolly Jamaican tarot card reader... she's got your number,
slim.

So, if you were into phone sex, could you call the big fat Jamaican
card reader and get off cheaper than with Wild Wanda's 900-number?

How would that conversation *go*, anyway?

--
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poly(TFE) Piano Enterprises' [dibs] for ironic hyperbole and elitist satire.
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Peter van Velzen

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As someone pointed out, children should have nice names
that will make them happy children,
and not names that express the will of their parents to much.
Nevertheless there are many names than actually spell out disbeliever.

Thomas for one makes a nice disbeliever
Frederic was the name of a Roman/Germann emporer who is said to have been
an Atheist.
Bruno is quite nice, having been flamed for his thoughts,
and sound much better the Giordano,
Carl sounds great to me too.
Ralph if you are not to dissapointed about Al Gore losing,.

Now with girls we may run into trouble.
All I can think of is Michelle

--
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Peter van Velzen
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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Christopher Adams

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> Utah sounds too Mormon for my taste.

The Mormons wouldn't like that. It was the United States government that
forced them to name their state "Utah" after the indigenous Ute Indians -
they wanted to call it "Deseret," which I *think* means "land of honey."

--
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I am the way of all flesh.

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Schwa Love

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Mike Dahmus <mdahN%O!SPAM$PORFA...@io.com> wrote in
<hg5l9tg76npjetoo1...@4ax.com>:

The first one would probably just grow up to join the Air Force HAW HAW!

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Oh! A drag queen and her dog.


Satchi

satchi

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Rich Holmes wrote:

> Also "Stalin" would be a good one. It doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
> ATHEIST" either, but would anyone beat him up? I don't think so.

'Stalin' is what I call my nephew when he sets the trash on fire to
avoid doing his homework.

Satchi
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Jim Vandewalker

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In article <97d0tb$nud33$1...@ID-75256.news.dfncis.de>, "Der Senfmeister"
<Idon'tlik...@all.com> wrote:

{ John Burrage <john.b...@health.wa.gov.au> wrote in message
{ news:3a99e8f4...@165.118.47.168...


{ > tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain: A Dialogue) wrote:
{ >
{ > > I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
{ > >brought up in an atheistical household.

{ >
{ > Off topic, but found this in a name book on Saturday: "Dodo".
{ >
{ > Worst girl's name ever.
{
{ My roommate wants to name his daughter (if he ever has one) Ororo.
{
Maybe he can't spell "Aurora"? (="Dawn" in Danae)

--
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satchi

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E Teflon Piano wrote:
>
> In article <BIvm6.20487$Yx4.7...@news6.giganews.com>, Nick Bensema
> <ni...@fnord.io.com> wrote:
>
> }In article <3A9A84FF...@hotmail.com>,
> }Wayland <termina...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> }>
> }>This reminds me of a show that I haven't seen in years. It involved a
> }>girl who was half-alien. She could stop time, and do other cool stuff.
> }>I remember part of the theme song, "Would you like to swing on a star,
> }>carry moon beams home in a jar, and be better off than you are, or would
> }>you like to go to Earth?"
> }>
> }>I remember thinking it was real cool, of course, I was like 9 or 10 at
> }>the time.
> }
> }I remember seeing that. It came on right after Charles in Charge, which
> }is probably why it stayed on the air for more than a year. The mother
> }from that show would later do a Psychic Friends commercial.
>
> That big fat jolly Jamaican tarot card reader... she's got your number,
> slim.
>
> So, if you were into phone sex, could you call the big fat Jamaican
> card reader and get off cheaper than with Wild Wanda's 900-number?

She see you coming a mile away.

Satchi

Der Senfmeister

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Jim Vandewalker <jim...@gate.net> wrote in message
news:jimvan-ya0230800...@news.newsguy.com...

It's Ororo, he says he got it out of a Starwars book somewhere. *shrug*

Karlo X

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Feb 27, 2001, 1:04:44 AM2/27/01
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rsholme...@mailbox.syr.edu (Rich Holmes) wrote in
<xzcg0h1...@rodan.syr.edu>:

>Also "Stalin" would be a good one. It doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
>ATHEIST" either, but would anyone beat him up? I don't think so.

Stalin Colinet, defensive tackle for the Cleveland Browns, has a
brother named "Hitler" and a sister named "Godwin".

Believe it...or NOT!

k.
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"In spite of everything, I still believe that people are
really good at heart." - Anne Frank

Martin Crisp

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Feb 27, 2001, 4:34:39 PM2/27/01
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 0:35:19 +1100, John Hattan wrote
(in message <ef2i9t0lr37u8kbbb...@4ax.com>):

> tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain: A Dialogue) wrote:
>
>> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be

>> brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
>> Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
>> window. I'm thinking a nice, secular name like Jeff, or Geoff, or Brian,-
>> if you have Irish roots, as I do,- would serve the purpose adequately. But

>> for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN


>> ATHEIST" to me. It seems the path of bringing up your children in an
>> atheistical household is hedged with inherent dangers concerning
>> nomenclature, as you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is
>> not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
>> also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
>> dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.
>

> "I'm naming my next son Jason, because I just love Biblical names."
> -- Raising Arizona

A friend (also about a 5th cousin), not the brightest (brother of a
Babe Watch male... Jaason), named his son "Jeremiah Eli". When asked
why he'd chosen biblical names..

"are they biblical names?"

Have Fun
Martin
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Kinky:
What I do that you wouldn't
Perverted:
What you do that I wouldn't

Iain Inkster

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Feb 27, 2001, 5:33:17 PM2/27/01
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Untheistic names.

ARSE-BANDIT.

INKSTER

RUGGEDLYHANDSOME

GODTHEIF

SOLSENTENTIA

HEATHENFRECKLEONINNERTHIGH

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<i i i i IAIN INKSTER has taken your freedom.
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Mark Twain: A Dialogue wrote in message ...


> I'm just curious what strategies people use for naming children to be
>brought up in an atheistical household. Clearly, names like Jonathan,
>Christoper, and Matthew,- cute guy names, if you will,- are *so* out the
>window. I'm thinking a nice, secular name like Jeff, or Geoff, or Brian,-
>if you have Irish roots, as I do,- would serve the purpose adequately. But
>for some reason, Jeff or Geoff or Brian doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
>ATHEIST" to me. It seems the path of bringing up your children in an
>atheistical household is hedged with inherent dangers concerning
>nomenclature, as you could very well inadvertantly choose a name that is
>not only burdened with unneccesary and unwanted Goddist baggage, but might
>also have the side-effect of dooming your child to a future of being a
>dewey Tiger Beat pin-up.
>

> Sincerely,
> Zbignew Hympatia-Haus


Beaglebot

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Feb 27, 2001, 6:12:54 PM2/27/01
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satchi <sat...@mindspring.com> wrote in <3A9B370B...@mindspring.com>:

>
>
>Rich Holmes wrote:
>
>> Also "Stalin" would be a good one. It doesn't scream "RUGGED AMERICAN
>> ATHEIST" either, but would anyone beat him up? I don't think so.
>
>'Stalin' is what I call my nephew when he sets the trash on fire to
>avoid doing his homework.
>

IWPTA "Slain"


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Glenn Knickerbocker

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Feb 27, 2001, 7:51:15 PM2/27/01
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satchi wrote:
> 'Stalin' is what I call my nephew when he sets the trash on fire to
> avoid doing his homework.

"Stalin wasn't stallin'."
--Willie Johnson, at least according to Rhino Records
(most other sources list its origin as unknown)

Nygaard

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Feb 27, 2001, 8:52:04 PM2/27/01
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:03:02 -0500, tagu...@nr.infi.net (Mark Twain:
A Dialogue) wrote:

All names has some kind of roots, mostly theistic. ("Mythological" is
just another christian name for "heathen")

Try greek or latin words, or names of roman emperors...

Anders
...

(origin "andros" greek, "man/human")

Geoff = short for Geoffry/Georg (lat. (greek?) Geo=earth)
Brian = Bran, legendary Celtic hero/half god
Jeff = ? ("Jeffer" sounds a bit like heavily accented Geoffry?)

William Barwell

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Feb 27, 2001, 9:01:19 PM2/27/01
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In article <979vds$3uq$1...@bigboote.WPI.EDU>,
Joshua E Millard <pu...@WPI.EDU> wrote:
>Der Senfmeister (Idon'tlik...@all.com) uttered:
>>
>><computer science analogy that may not make sense to non-programmers>
>>To me, a name is just a pointer. The data is there; it doesn't really
>>matter *what* you call the pointer, just the thing it points to.
>></csatmnmstnp>
>
>Eh. But, see, that's no good; a name, really, is more like a neuron. The
>primary synaptic connection is to the data, sure, but there are all sorts
>of other connections as well. You name a kid Elmer, right? People who
>know him hear "Elmer" and think of him -- but they also think of glue and
>Fudd (and, by tangent, Microsoft). You name him Jim instead and they think
>of The Doors and Beam and exercise equipment.
>


So, you could name yer kids Eratosthenes, or Socrates, or Boudicea.
Throw some curve balls.....

Pope Charles
SubGenius Pope of Houston
Slack!

Nygaard

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Feb 27, 2001, 8:55:03 PM2/27/01
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:01:00 +0100, MEow
<nik...@wanadoo.spammustdie.dk> wrote:

>The alien which happened to be occupying the body of The Owen
><spm...@my-deja.com> on Mon, 26 Feb 2001 05:18:28 +0000 wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> j spaceman
>>> >> frankie
>>> >> bardo
>>> >> liam
>>> >
>>> >Liam is *such* a cool name.
>>>
>>> Are we only talking about boys names? If not then Amanda is such a
>>> beautiful name...
>>>
>>
>>That was my mum's middle name and she reckons it should count as child
>>abuse.
>
>I love it, I think it speaks of a strong and independent woman, plus I
>have a slight clue as to what it means...
>

Amanda? hmm... (this is just _so_ fun...) "Not monday"?

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