quark(s) (was: Latin, the Enlightenment, and science)
Adam Funk
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 09:18:30 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
><gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 26, 10:04 am, Yusuf B Gursey <y...@theworld.com> wrote:
>>> I don't have any idea what Joyce had in mind, but I know that quark is
>>> a type of cheese in German.-
>>
>>Everyone knows that. But it has nothing to do with the name of the
>>subatomic particle, unless Joyce was referencing it in that passage.
>
> It was the other way around. Quarks were named after one of the many
> unusual words in Finnegans Wake.
The OED gives "quark" as "[a] type of soft, unripened cow's milk
cheese of German origin, with a low fat content and smooth texture"
with an American citation from 1903 & a British one from 1931.
So it's *possible* that Joyce had heard of the dairy product. (But I
wouldn't bet on it.)
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> On 2009-12-27, Chuck Riggs wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 09:18:30 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
> ><gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >>On Dec 26, 10:04 am, Yusuf B Gursey <y...@theworld.com> wrote:
> >>> I don't have any idea what Joyce had in mind, but I know that quark is
> >>> a type of cheese in German.-
>
> >>Everyone knows that. But it has nothing to do with the name of the
> >>subatomic particle, unless Joyce was referencing it in that passage.
>
> > It was the other way around. Quarks were named after one of the many
> > unusual words in Finnegans Wake.
>
> The OED gives "quark" as "[a] type of soft, unripened cow's milk
> cheese of German origin, with a low fat content and smooth texture"
> with an American citation from 1903 & a British one from 1931.
>
> So it's *possible* that Joyce had heard of the dairy product. (But I
> wouldn't bet on it.)
>
I would. Joyce lived in Trieste didn't he?
Adam Funk
> On Dec 28 2009, 8:22 pm, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>> The OED gives "quark" as "[a] type of soft, unripened cow's milk
>> cheese of German origin, with a low fat content and smooth texture"
>> with an American citation from 1903 & a British one from 1931.
>>
>> So it's *possible* that Joyce had heard of the dairy product. (But I
>> wouldn't bet on it.)
>>
>
> I would. Joyce lived in Trieste didn't he?
Good point.
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sie in ihre eigene Sprache, so daß unverzüglich etwas völlig anderes
daraus wird. [Goethe]
Mahipal7638
> On 2010-01-01, jimbo.ty...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Dec 28 2009, 8:22 pm, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> >> The OED gives "quark" as "[a] type of soft, unripened cow's milk
> >> cheese of German origin, with a low fat content and smooth texture"
> >> with an American citation from 1903 & a British one from 1931.
>
> >> So it's *possible* that Joyce had heard of the dairy product. (But I
> >> wouldn't bet on it.)
>
> > I would. Joyce lived in Trieste didn't he?
>
> Good point.
From quark(s) to quack(s) is just a qwerty-typo away.
Joyce would've rejoiced, no matter where he lived -- close to cows or
no.
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> Mathematiker sind wie Franzosen: Was man ihnen auch sagt, übersetzen
> sie in ihre eigene Sprache, so daß unverzüglich etwas völlig anderes
> daraus wird. [Goethe]
Goethe in German must be as eloquent, as He is translated.
Enjo(y)...
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Adam Funk
> From quark(s) to quack(s) is just a qwerty-typo away.
> Joyce would've rejoiced, no matter where he lived -- close to cows or
> no.
They don't wander far.
>> Mathematiker sind wie Franzosen: Was man ihnen auch sagt, übersetzen
>> sie in ihre eigene Sprache, so daß unverzüglich etwas völlig anderes
>> daraus wird. [Goethe]
>
> Goethe in German must be as eloquent, as He is translated.
Gauss is even better.
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David DeLaney
>Mahipal7638 wrote:
>> From quark(s) to quack(s) is just a qwerty-typo away.
>> Joyce would've rejoiced, no matter where he lived -- close to cows or no.
>
>They don't wander far.
Fermion cows do.
>>> Mathematiker sind wie Franzosen: Was man ihnen auch sagt, übersetzen
>>> sie in ihre eigene Sprache, so daß unverzüglich etwas völlig anderes
>>> daraus wird.
>>
>> Goethe in German must be as eloquent, as He is translated.
>
>Gauss is even better.
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