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@ IS SEX FOR PLEASURE OR JUST REPRODUCTION OF HUMAN LIFE ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE ?

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OB...@aol.com

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Jun 8, 2013, 3:28:52 PM6/8/13
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You can make a case using the Book of Genesis that it is for the
reproduction alone ! It is not so ! You have to know very well some
other related to sex passages in the Bible.
One good example is Pslam 128 .
Every servant of God and there are some who die celibate will be
blessed with a wife and children .
And the earth must be populated which implies that in view of the fact
that not many will be saved there must be sexual activity in the
Paradise to fill up the earth with people .
That means men and women from the very beginning in their lives in the
Paradise must have sexual organs and of course they will stay that way
throughout the eternity .

That implies that sex in marriages is to be forever and mostly for
pleasure if the earth is to be populated ( filled up ) and lives will
go on further.

You find me one man on this planet earth who has 4 children who had
only 4 times sexual contacts just to have 4 children .
Woman married who cannot have children would have to stop sexual
activity completely if sex is only for giving a birth .

All masturbating activities of men and women would senseless and
sinful as you cannot give a birth to a child this way .

If a woman decided to hava one child basically with the right
knowledge when she can be impregnated she would have to have one
sexual intecourse and that's it ! No more sex in her marital life !

If were looking a wife have you were you looking just to get a woman
to have a child with her or rather to enjoy the pleasure of a woman ?
What was a dominatiing factor ?

It is a complete nonesense to envision human beings sexless in the
Paradise without sexual organs !

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

Greg Carr

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Jun 8, 2013, 4:58:51 PM6/8/13
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Your mental decline continues.

~* Parrish *~

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"Greg Carr" <gregca...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 8, 12:28 pm, "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com> wrote:
> You can make a case using the Book of Genesis that it is for the
> reproduction alone ! It is not so ! You have to know very well some
> other related to sex passages in the Bible.

Your mental decline continues.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
He refuses to seek any kind of therapy claiming his Insurance wont cover it.
And he's obsessed with sex. He never mentions a wife for love or
companionship or friendship. He never mentions wanting to be a father or
husband. All he wants a woman for is to have intercourse with, then set
her aside like one of those plastic dollies sold to the lonely old men out
there.

LashLarue ~~~~

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Jun 9, 2013, 1:58:31 AM6/9/13
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<OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> You can make a case using the Book of Genesis that it is for the
> reproduction alone ! It is not so ! You have to know very well some
> other related to sex passages in the Bible.
> One good example is Pslam 128 .
> Every servant of God and there are some who die celibate will be
> blessed with a wife and children .

And so you believe Jesus lied when he said no one will marry in Paradise?
What motive would he have to lie? Or are you suggesting there will be no
marriage but a lot of free sex in Paradise?


voice of sanity

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Jun 9, 2013, 6:54:02 AM6/9/13
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W dniu sobota, 8 czerwca 2013 21:28:52 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
> IS SEX FOR PLEASURE OR JUST REPRODUCTION OF HUMAN LIFE ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE ?
According to the Bible, the sexual(physical/reproductive) aspect of love will cease to exist in God's Kingdom. Read Luke 20,34-36-and don't even think about distorting it.

> It is a complete nonesense to envision human beings sexless in the
Nowhere in the Bible was it said that your penis would be cut off while you enter the paradise. It was said, however that it would not be used for sex anymore, since sex only exists for reproductive purposes. That was God's idea and don't try to distort it.

Do you still have problems finding a wife for yourself, Obves? Perhaps you'll make it to find one when you realize what the wife-husband relationship is about.



OB...@aol.com

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Jun 14, 2013, 5:42:29 PM6/14/13
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On Jun 9, 1:49 am, "~* Parrish *~" <noth...@blovenia.com> wrote:
> "Greg Carr" <gregcarrso...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It seems you like plastic doll than a woman .

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

OB...@aol.com

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Jun 14, 2013, 5:48:27 PM6/14/13
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On Jun 9, 1:58 am, "LashLarue ~~~~" <LashLa...@kittyHawken.invalid>
wrote:
> <OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1c09cb30-0c7e-4229...@e13g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
>
> > You can make a case using the Book of Genesis that it is for the
> > reproduction alone ! It is not so ! You have to know very well some
> > other related to sex passages in the Bible.
> > One good example is Pslam 128 .
> > Every servant of God and there are some who die celibate will be
> > blessed with a wife and children .
>
> And so you believe Jesus lied when he said no one will marry in Paradise?
> What motive would he have to lie?  Or are you suggesting there will be no
> marriage but a lot of free sex in Paradise?

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There will be sex in the Paradise in marriages and I gave the proof :
Psalm 128 .
Study my posts with the Bible at hand .
I wrote about Matthew 22.30 long time ago .
There cannot be contradictions in the Bible and we use simple common
sense when interpreting the Scriptures .
Every servant of God according to Psalm 128 will be blessed with a
wife . There are servants of God who die celibate but the Promise of
God given in Psalm 128 stands forever and is unshakeable.

So there must be some other interpretation to Matthew 22.30 and it can
be as Jesus was teaching in metaphors and figures of speech that most
people could not understand him but only those God wanted to
understand ( only a few select ) - Matthew 13.11,34-35 .

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

OB...@aol.com

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Jun 14, 2013, 5:53:30 PM6/14/13
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If sex exists for reproductive purposes find me a man or woman who has
5 children and had sex only 5 times .
If a woman is infertile married to a man they should never have sex
after that discovery .
By masturbation children are not born and most men masturbated or
masturbate.

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

~ *Parrish *~

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<OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
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It seems you like plastic doll than a woman .
~~~~~~~~~~~
I don't need a plastic doll. I have a real live spouse that I dearly love
and who loves me. Something you never had and don't want. I don't sit on my
ass believing a God is going to hand me someone in the future. And you
OBVES, have made it quite clear all you want a woman for is PLEASURE! For
SEX and nothing more. For that, all you need is a blow-up doll because
that's all a God would give you since all you want is sex.

LashLarue ~~~~

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<OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 9, 1:58 am, "LashLarue ~~~~" <LashLa...@kittyHawken.invalid>
wrote:
> <OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1c09cb30-0c7e-4229...@e13g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
>
> > You can make a case using the Book of Genesis that it is for the
> > reproduction alone ! It is not so ! You have to know very well some
> > other related to sex passages in the Bible.
> > One good example is Pslam 128 .
> > Every servant of God and there are some who die celibate will be
> > blessed with a wife and children .
>
> And so you believe Jesus lied when he said no one will marry in Paradise?
> What motive would he have to lie? Or are you suggesting there will be no
> marriage but a lot of free sex in Paradise?

--
There will be sex in the Paradise in marriages and I gave the proof :
Psalm 128 .

* That doesn't say Jesus was mistaken or lied. Why do you chose to believe
it does? Why do you believe or think Jesus lied or was mistaken? What else
do you think Jesus lied or was mistaken about?

Study my posts with the Bible at hand .

* You need to study my posts with the bible in your hands and learn the
truth. Jesus is not happy that you consider him a liar.

I wrote about Matthew 22.30 long time ago .
There cannot be contradictions in the Bible and we use simple common
sense when interpreting the Scriptures .

* Exactly - and that means no marriage in Paradise. It would not work since
many people are widowed and remarry. And there will be no need for
reproduction there either. LEARN your bible.

Every servant of God according to Psalm 128 will be blessed with a
wife .

* Where does it say this applies to those in Paradise? Where does it say
Jesus was mistaken or lying?

There are servants of God who die celibate but the Promise of
God given in Psalm 128 stands forever and is unshakeable.

* They die celebate because that's what they choose. They have no interest
in women or sex. Or they're gay men. Or they're the kind of man no woman
wants. No woman in Paradise would want them either - if Jesus was lying or
mistaken. God can't FORCE a woman to marry you as you seem to think he can.

So there must be some other interpretation to Matthew 22.30 and it can
be as Jesus was teaching in metaphors and figures of speech that most
people could not understand him but only those God wanted to
understand ( only a few select ) - Matthew 13.11,34-35 .

* Jesus made it very clear that he was not speaking in metaphors and figures
of speech as you want so desperately to believe. He made himself very clear
to the disiples. Read those passages again.

LashLarue ~~~~

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Jun 15, 2013, 8:57:27 PM6/15/13
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<OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 9, 6:54 am, voice of sanity <matreggie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> W dniu sobota, 8 czerwca 2013 21:28:52 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com
> napisał:> IS SEX FOR PLEASURE OR JUST REPRODUCTION OF HUMAN LIFE ACCORDING
> TO THE BIBLE ?
>
> According to the Bible, the sexual(physical/reproductive) aspect of love
> will cease to exist in God's Kingdom. Read Luke 20,34-36-and don't even
> think about distorting it.
>
> > It is a complete nonesense to envision human beings sexless in the
>
> Nowhere in the Bible was it said that your penis would be cut off while
> you enter the paradise. It was said, however that it would not be used for
> sex anymore, since sex only exists for reproductive purposes. That was
> God's idea and don't try to distort it.
>
> Do you still have problems finding a wife for yourself, Obves? Perhaps
> you'll make it to find one when you realize what the wife-husband
> relationship is about.

--
If sex exists for reproductive purposes find me a man or woman who has
5 children and had sex only 5 times .

* No one said sex is only for reproduction. But with you, you make it plain
all you want a woman for is to have sex with. Nothing about love or
companionship or friendship or having things in common. No mention of doing
anything with a woman but having sex-pleasure with her. No mention of
having children. All you talk about is sex and pleasure as if the woman was
a toy or a mechanical being.

Ike

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Jun 18, 2013, 12:50:39 PM6/18/13
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On 6/8/2013 3:28 PM, OB...@aol.com wrote:
> You can make a case using the Book of Genesis that it is for the
> reproduction alone !

And the perv once again shows his true interests.

Ike

OB...@aol.com

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Jun 21, 2013, 5:37:00 PM6/21/13
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You use simple common sense . Any servant of God will be blessed with wife by God's promise which is 100% true . There were or are servants of God who died or will die without having a wife .
Do you understand the word celibate ?

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

OB...@aol.com

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Jun 22, 2013, 4:47:16 PM6/22/13
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You missed the point like almost all people reading the Bible .
Jesus was not teaching about physical matters but spiritual matters .
Matthew 13.11,34-35 .
Living in this world his true followers must marry with him that .The church is Jesus' bride ! And when they come back to life in the Paradise as 144000 class of servants ( men as sons of God and women as the collective bride ) they will not need to come into this spiritual marriage over again that is " to marry spiritully again with Jesus as they had done so in their previous lifetime .

You need to study my earlier posts .I wrote on about Matthew 22.30 .
That was a good proof we must be in the endtimes when the best final understanding of the Bible is revealed by God Yahweh .You don't understand at all what religion I represent the way you react .

If you understand Matthew 22.30 you can learn where to look for the true christian religion in our times .Almost all religions can be refuted based on the understanding the verse Matthew 22.30 .

Thank God of the Bible you are on this newsgroup as most people are wasting their time on many things on the internet !

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

voice of sanity

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W dniu piątek, 21 czerwca 2013 23:37:00 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
> You use simple common sense . Any servant of God will be blessed with wife by God's promise which is 100% true . There were or are servants of God who died or will die without having a wife .
>
> Do you understand the word celibate ?

Yes, but if you live as a celibate man it would mean that you give up the marriage for the sake of changing this world according to God's will and doing unto others. There are many priests, who live without wives(such as Catholic priests), but they are not looking forward to getting married in the paradise. It is YOU, who thinks that it is better to give up the marriage now and "enjoy" it in the afterlife. Wake up Obves! Firstly, the marriage is not about sex, but about a community. Secondly, physical love(aka sex) does not exist in God's Kingdom. Face that truth instead of making up new lies!

OB...@aol.com

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Jun 24, 2013, 1:03:35 AM6/24/13
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Catholic priests don't understand Pslam 128 ! It is not what they think it is what God Yahweh decided for His servants .
You have crystal clear there in Psalm 128 that every servant of God will be blessed with a wife and children and it must come true sooner or later .There is no exception to that .
So if we have a true servant of God of the Bible that lives now celibate life and dies as celibate he must get a wife in the Paradise that the words of Psalm 128 come true !
Since there cannot be contradictions in God's words we must appropriately explain Matthew 22.30. The verse seems to contradict Psalm 128 on a surface only as we read in Matthew 13.11,34-35 Jesus was teaching in metaphors , parables and there was a good reason for that .
So we must look into Matthew 22.30 as a metaphor or so .

We sinners in this world need to believe in Jesus which means a spiritual marriage with him .
Children of this world ( men and women) who belive in Jesus spiritually marry with him .
Men and women marry with Jesus !
These men and women will not marry ... with Jesus in the Paradise as they already did so in this present lives .

Normal simple taking on that is that people think about men and women marrying with each other ! But the Bible here is talking about men and women marrying now or not marrying in the Paradise with Jesus ! In this last sense men and women will not marry ! Not marry with Jesus in the Paradise as they already married to him by putting faith in him .

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

voice of sanity

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W dniu poniedziałek, 24 czerwca 2013 07:03:35 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
> On Sunday, June 23, 2013 7:52:03 AM UTC-4, voice of sanity wrote:
>
> > W dniu piątek, 21 czerwca 2013 23:37:00 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
>
> >
>
> > > You use simple common sense . Any servant of God will be blessed with wife by God's promise which is 100% true . There were or are servants of God who died or will die without having a wife .
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Do you understand the word celibate ?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Yes, but if you live as a celibate man it would mean that you give up the marriage for the sake of changing this world according to God's will and doing unto others. There are many priests, who live without wives(such as Catholic priests), but they are not looking forward to getting married in the paradise. It is YOU, who thinks that it is better to give up the marriage now and "enjoy" it in the afterlife. Wake up Obves! Firstly, the marriage is not about sex, but about a community. Secondly, physical love(aka sex) does not exist in God's Kingdom. Face that truth instead of making up new lies!
>
>
>
> --
>

>
> You have crystal clear there in Psalm 128 that every servant of God will be blessed with a wife and children and it must come true sooner or later .There is no exception to that .

Of course, there is. You want not to marry now(entirely on purpose) to get a free wife in the Paradise. But, it does not work that way!

> So if we have a true servant of God of the Bible that lives now celibate life and dies as celibate he must get a wife in the Paradise that the words of Psalm 128 come true !
If he dies celibate out of his free will...just like YOU want to, then he does not have to.

> Since there cannot be contradictions in God's words we must appropriately explain Matthew 22.30. The verse seems to contradict Psalm 128 on a surface only as we read in Matthew 13.11,34-35 Jesus was teaching in metaphors , parables and there was a good reason for that .
>
> So we must look into Matthew 22.30 as a metaphor or so .
>
>
>
> We sinners in this world need to believe in Jesus which means a spiritual marriage with him .

> Children of this world ( men and women) who belive in Jesus spiritually marry with him .
>
> Men and women marry with Jesus !
In that case, you would not get a free wife for sex. Do you understand the difference between physical love and the love in the paradise?

TO CONCLUDE:
1)There is no sex in the Paradise.
2)If you don't marry now it means you don't need a woman companion.
3)Speaking about Jesus' love to mankind in a topic called "@ IS SEX FOR PLEASURE OR JUST REPRODUCTION OF HUMAN LIFE ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE ?" is just disgusting.
4)If you want sex that badly, marry NOW.

OB...@aol.com

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On Saturday, June 8, 2013 3:28:52 PM UTC-4, OB...@aol.com wrote:
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To conclude :
you don't understand my posts.

voice of sanity

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W dniu sobota, 29 czerwca 2013 01:12:07 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:

> To conclude :
>
> you don't understand my posts.

Quite the opposite. I DO understand them. It is you, who does not get it that:
-love should not be mistaken for desire
-the marriage is not only about sex
-if you understand what the marriage is about, the time to enter into one is NOW
-if you decide to follow my advice, start looking for a wife for yourself, since we don't live in a society, where young women are given into marriage against their will
And finally....GET A LIFE!

OB...@aol.com

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Sex holds marriages . If some young man is looking for a wife his first concern is or should be sex ,not making a baby .

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

Justin Kase

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<OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> To conclude :
> you don't understand my posts.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

No one can understand them because they make so little sense. You post what
you want your God to do, not what's in the bible. And you change your
beliefs. So how is anyone to make sense of that?

Also, you ignore the bible's command to keep your home and your body clean.
Cleanliness is next to Godliness - yet you claim you live in a smelly filthy
hoarded apartment. Forget sex for awhile and clean up your life.

voice of sanity

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W dniu poniedziałek, 1 lipca 2013 00:37:07 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:

>
> Sex holds marriages .
Not really, what holds them are: love and responsibility for the other person. Two things you are completely unfamiliar with.

> If some young man is looking for a wife his first concern is or should be sex ,not making a baby.
Only in your sick mind. A sane man perceives a woman he loves as:
-the person whom he loves and is loved by
-the one whom he wants to give birth to his children

Your pesonal favourite, "pleasurable sex", comes at the very end of the list.

Will you get a life now?

Justin Kase

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<OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Sex holds marriages . If some young man is looking for a wife his first
concern is or should be sex ,not making a baby .

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

His first concern should be is she a good person. An honest person. A good
friend to him. A good companion, a clean person and a person who likes
children if he wants a family. He should be concerned if she's
compassionate, warm and loving.

Sex is at the end of the list since passion fades in time. Then what? You
look for someone new? But but you wouldn't know about that since all you
see women good for is sexually pleasuring yourself.

OB...@aol.com

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Sex is the most important aspect of marriage .
It is a driving force in two people making a lasting connection.
There are marriages that fall apart because of bad sex .
If I look for a wife the most important thing is sex .

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

voice of sanity

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W dniu piątek, 5 lipca 2013 22:50:51 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
> Sex is the most important aspect of marriage .
>
> It is a driving force in two people making a lasting connection.
>
> There are marriages that fall apart because of bad sex .
>
> If I look for a wife the most important thing is sex .

In that case, you really have no idea what marriage is about. What makes two people stay with each other for years are: love and responsibility for the other person, not sex. PS. There's no sex in the Paradise, so marry now or quit dreaming.

OB...@aol.com

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On Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:28:52 PM UTC-7, OB...@aol.com wrote:
> You can make a case using the Book of Genesis that it is for the reproduction alone ! It is not so ! You have to know very well some other related to sex passages in the Bible. One good example is Pslam 128 . Every servant of God and there are some who die celibate will be blessed with a wife and children . And the earth must be populated which implies that in view of the fact that not many will be saved there must be sexual activity in the Paradise to fill up the earth with people . That means men and women from the very beginning in their lives in the Paradise must have sexual organs and of course they will stay that way throughout the eternity . That implies that sex in marriages is to be forever and mostly for pleasure if the earth is to be populated ( filled up ) and lives will go on further. You find me one man on this planet earth who has 4 children who had only 4 times sexual contacts just to have 4 children . Woman married who cannot have children would have to stop sexual activity completely if sex is only for giving a birth . All masturbating activities of men and women would senseless and sinful as you cannot give a birth to a child this way . If a woman decided to hava one child basically with the right knowledge when she can be impregnated she would have to have one sexual intecourse and that's it ! No more sex in her marital life ! If were looking a wife have you were you looking just to get a woman to have a child with her or rather to enjoy the pleasure of a woman ? What was a dominatiing factor ? It is a complete nonesense to envision human beings sexless in the Paradise without sexual organs ! http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

--
You don't understand what is eternal life and what does it mean to die forever .
You need to understand the passing of the time .You need God to help you understand the time .

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

OB...@aol.com

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On Saturday, July 6, 2013 11:38:25 AM UTC-4, OB...@aol.com wrote: > On Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:28:52 PM UTC-7, OB...@aol.com wrote: > You can make a case using the Book of Genesis that it is for the reproduction alone ! It is not so ! You have to know very well some other related to sex passages in the Bible. One good example is Pslam 128 . Every servant of God and there are some who die celibate will be blessed with a wife and children . And the earth must be populated which implies that in view of the fact that not many will be saved there must be sexual activity in the Paradise to fill up the earth with people . That means men and women from the very beginning in their lives in the Paradise must have sexual organs and of course they will stay that way throughout the eternity . That implies that sex in marriages is to be forever and mostly for pleasure if the earth is to be populated ( filled up ) and lives will go on further. You find me one man on this planet earth who has 4 children who had only 4 times sexual contacts just to have 4 children . Woman married who cannot have children would have to stop sexual activity completely if sex is only for giving a birth . All masturbating activities of men and women would senseless and sinful as you cannot give a birth to a child this way . If a woman decided to hava one child basically with the right knowledge when she can be impregnated she would have to have one sexual intecourse and that's it ! No more sex in her marital life ! If were looking a wife have you were you looking just to get a woman to have a child with her or rather to enjoy the pleasure of a woman ? What was a dominatiing factor ? It is a complete nonesense to envision human beings sexless in the Paradise without sexual organs ! http://www.focusonthebible2011.com -- You don't understand what is eternal life and what does it mean to die forever . You need to understand the passing of the time .You need God to help you understand the time . http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

OB...@aol.com

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On Saturday, July 6, 2013 11:38:25 AM UTC-4, OB...@aol.com wrote:
> On Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:28:52 PM UTC-7, OB...@aol.com wrote: > You can make a case using the Book of Genesis that it is for the reproduction alone ! It is not so ! You have to know very well some other related to sex passages in the Bible. One good example is Pslam 128 . Every servant of God and there are some who die celibate will be blessed with a wife and children . And the earth must be populated which implies that in view of the fact that not many will be saved there must be sexual activity in the Paradise to fill up the earth with people . That means men and women from the very beginning in their lives in the Paradise must have sexual organs and of course they will stay that way throughout the eternity . That implies that sex in marriages is to be forever and mostly for pleasure if the earth is to be populated ( filled up ) and lives will go on further. You find me one man on this planet earth who has 4 children who had only 4 times sexual contacts just to have 4 children . Woman married who cannot have children would have to stop sexual activity completely if sex is only for giving a birth . All masturbating activities of men and women would senseless and sinful as you cannot give a birth to a child this way . If a woman decided to hava one child basically with the right knowledge when she can be impregnated she would have to have one sexual intecourse and that's it ! No more sex in her marital life ! If were looking a wife have you were you looking just to get a woman to have a child with her or rather to enjoy the pleasure of a woman ? What was a dominatiing factor ? It is a complete nonesense to envision human beings sexless in the Paradise without sexual organs ! http://www.focusonthebible2011.com -- You don't understand what is eternal life and what does it mean to die forever . You need to understand the passing of the time .You need God to help you understand the time . http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

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Sexuality in man is forever ! There are no sexless human beings ( without sexual organs normally ) .

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

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W dniu sobota, 6 lipca 2013 17:45:38 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
> Sexuality in man is forever ! There are no sexless human beings ( without sexual organs normally ) .

You mistake men's and women's distiguishing features(penis and vagina) for some kind of "sexual tools", which are there solely for a few seconds of pleasure. Some men also use their penis for other purposes. I do not mean the masturbation, which is to be despised, when done on a regular basis. Adults should be able to contain themselves, are you, Obves?
What is more, the feeling of being urged to have sex by our bodies, which is quite destructive sometimes(just think of divorces, because your wife found a younger sexual partner). In the paradise, men like you, who are addicted to sex are going to feel a deep relief-being able to look at a pretty woman and think about what she's like in the first place. What would come in the first place in your case, would be the willingness of dragging that woman into bed as soon as possible. Wake up Obves! You need to appreciate a woman's personality traits more than her body, otherwise you would hurt her.
To conclude, it is possible to enjoy the Paradise without sex, as well as without your penis being cut off. The reason for a man's happiness there is being close to God and other people, who have lived over the centuries. There will be like billions of them, so don't you worry about the Paradise being "underpopulated".

Justin Kase

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<OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Thursday, July 4, 2013 1:29:11 AM UTC-4, Justin Kase wrote:
>> His first concern should be is she a good person. An honest person. A
>> good
>>
>> friend to him. A good companion, a clean person and a person who likes
wants a family. He should be concerned if she's
>> compassionate, warm and loving.
>> Sex is at the end of the list since passion fades in time. Then what?
>> You
>> look for someone new? But but you wouldn't know about that since all
>> you
>> see women good for is sexually pleasuring yourself.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Sex is the most important aspect of marriage .

* Where do you get this idea from? Your parents? Camping?

> It is a driving force in two people making a lasting connection.

* Since when? Camping told you this? You read it in the bible?

> There are marriages that fall apart because of bad sex .

* Not to be insulting but how would you know what GOOD SEX is since you only
had that one woman who left you years ago? You don't seem to know anything
about sex.

> If I look for a wife the most important thing is sex .

* That's because you're mentally ill with no interest in the woman herself,
just her vagina and breasts. A rubber doll woman would serve your purpose.
Do you think God is going to parade a long line of women in front of you so
you can try out all their vaginas for "good sex"? How will you know which
one of them gives you "good sex?" And all of this without marriage no less!
You'd be fornicating which is a sin.

LashLarue ~~~~

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On Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:28:52 PM UTC-7, OB...@aol.com wrote:
> You can make a case using the Book of Genesis that it is for the
> reproduction alone ! It is not so ! You have to know very well some other
> related to sex passages in the Bible.

* No one said it's for reproduction alone. But it's not for pleasure alone
either. It's for married couples who love and care about each other. But
that's not what you want. You want a woman to be like a toy, for sex
pleasure only. To service you like a prostitute with no strings attached.
You've admitted this so many time in your posts. You've said it so many
different ways. Since you cannot find a woman in this life, you've come to
believe God will hand you this living woman sex-toy after Armageddon. It's
all that keeps you going now. You dream of a woman being forced by God to
have sex with you. To give YOU pleasure.

One good example is Pslam 128 . Every servant of God and there are some who
die celibate will be blessed with a wife and children .[/quote]

* You're not dying celibate or virginal. You claimed you had sex with the
last women before she left you and moved on. And Psalm 128 contradicts what
Jesus said. So who do you believe? Jesus or the person who wrote that? Who
do you think is going to bless you with this wife and children? If no woman
wants you now, they wont want you after Armageddon either. Why would they?
God can't force them to service you. Explain that to us.

And the earth must be populated which implies that in view of the fact that
not many will be saved there must be sexual activity in the Paradise to fill
up the earth with people . That means men and women from the very beginning
in their lives in the Paradise must have sexual organs and of course they
will stay that way throughout the eternity . That implies that sex in
marriages is to be forever and mostly for pleasure if the earth is to be
populated ( filled up ) and lives will go on further.

* No OBVES. You're implying what you want to happen in the future. And
because you refuse to believe what Jesus said, you will not get eternal life
in the Paradise to come. There is a good reason there will be no sex or
marriage in Paradise. Camping must have explained why it would not work.

You find me one man on this planet earth who has 4 children who had only 4
times sexual contacts just to have 4 children . Woman married who cannot
have children would have to stop sexual activity completely if sex is only
for giving a birth . All masturbating activities of men and women would
senseless and sinful as you cannot give a birth to a child this way . If a
woman decided to hava one child basically with the right knowledge when she
can be impregnated she would have to have one sexual intecourse and that's
it ! No more sex in her marital life ! If were looking a wife have you were
you looking just to get a woman to have a child with her or rather to enjoy
the pleasure of a woman ? What was a dominatiing factor ? It is a complete
nonesense to envision human beings sexless in the Paradise without sexual
organs ! http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

* None of what you wrote makes sense to anyone who read the bible or knows
what Jesus said. There will be no sexual desire in Paradise. You wont care
about God forcing some woman to service you for your own selfish pleasure.

You don't understand what is eternal life and what does it mean to die
forever .
You need to understand the passing of the time .You need God to help you
understand the time .

* God made us understand. You're the one who lacks understanding, probably
because the devil is within you making your crave sex....

LashLarue ~~~~

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"voice of sanity" <matreg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The reason for a man's happiness there is being close to God and other
people, who have lived over the centuries. There will be like billions of
them, so don't you worry about the Paradise being "underpopulated".

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

He fails to grasp why sex and marriage wont exist in Paradise. His mind
just shuts it out.

OB...@aol.com

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On Sunday, July 7, 2013 10:37:51 PM UTC-7, LashLarue ~~~~ wrote: > "voice of sanity" <matreg...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:2f72fe28-b20d-42f2...@googlegroups.com... The reason for a man's happiness there is being close to God and other people, who have lived over the centuries. There will be like billions of them, so don't you worry about the Paradise being "underpopulated". ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ He fails to grasp why sex and marriage wont exist in Paradise. His mind just shuts it out. - You have to understand Psalm 128 ! It has the clue ! Every servant of God will be blessed with a wife and children. There were servants in this lifetime who died celibate but the promise of God stands ! So those celibates will have wives and children in the future Paradise .

http://wwww.focusonthebible2011.com

voice of sanity

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W dniu czwartek, 11 lipca 2013 07:48:14 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
You have to understand Psalm 128 ! It has the clue ! Every servant of God will be blessed with a wife and children. There were servants in this lifetime who died celibate but the promise of God stands ! So those celibates will have wives and children in the future Paradise .
>
>
>
> http://wwww.focusonthebible2011.com

You have already been told that you cannot interpret Psalm 128 the way you want to interpret it. Why do you want to believe your OWN lies so badly?

If you want a wife-marry a woman NOW. But remember-a woman is not synonymous to a toy, what you have already been told either.

LashLarue ~~~~

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** No they will not. You're twisting a verse to fit what you have a need to
believe. God cannot force any woman to marry you, service you sexually and
bear your children. Where do you think this wife is going to come from? Thin
air? Marriage would not work in Paradise and you've been told why. Also,
why do you not believe what Jesus said? He said no one marries in Paradise.

OB...@aol.com

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On Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:28:52 PM UTC-7, OB...@aol.com wrote: > You can make a case using the Book of Genesis that it is for the reproduction alone ! It is not so ! You have to know very well some other related to sex passages in the Bible. One good example is Pslam 128 . Every servant of God and there are some who die celibate will be blessed with a wife and children . And the earth must be populated which implies that in view of the fact that not many will be saved there must be sexual activity in the Paradise to fill up the earth with people . That means men and women from the very beginning in their lives in the Paradise must have sexual organs and of course they will stay that way throughout the eternity . That implies that sex in marriages is to be forever and mostly for pleasure if the earth is to be populated ( filled up ) and lives will go on further. You find me one man on this planet earth who has 4 children who had only 4 times sexual contacts just to have 4 children . Woman married who cannot have children would have to stop sexual activity completely if sex is only for giving a birth . All masturbating activities of men and women would senseless and sinful as you cannot give a birth to a child this way . If a woman decided to hava one child basically with the right knowledge when she can be impregnated she would have to have one sexual intecourse and that's it ! No more sex in her marital life ! If were looking a wife have you were you looking just to get a woman to have a child with her or rather to enjoy the pleasure of a woman ? What was a dominatiing factor ? It is a complete nonesense to envision human beings sexless in the Paradise without sexual organs ! http://www.focusonthebible2011.com
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You need mental healing !You are in desperate situation. But it is so deep that no doctor's medicine will help you , only God of the Bible has this type of power of healing from this hypnotic mental condition you are in .You completely don't understand what is sex, even if you had it !
There is no human being sexless ! If a woman attracts a man it is because of sex aspect .
The pleasure of good sex is so great that it is like the basis of eternal happiness after love towards God !
Knowing that a servant of God can wait it out for thousands of years abstaining from sex to have it and enjoy it later on all the time !

If I am celibate now it is not because no woman wants me now ! It is because I am waiting holding off for a much better time for a very good lasting sex !
That secrecy about sex in the Paradise was held secret by God in a super way as otherwise people realizing the whole truth would not marry in this lifetime by postponing sex for a later good time which will be in the Paradise .
You ignore this huge mystery solved now which is now known at the very endtimes ( the right time ) . It could not have been known earlier . It was reserved for our times but you don't understand that even if it is explained to you . You don't understand the explanations given like most people do ! So how in the world anyone could decode this secret sex code by reading the Bible earlier ?!

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com


http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

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On Thursday, July 11, 2013 1:09:07 AM UTC-7, voice of sanity wrote:
> W dniu czwartek, 11 lipca 2013 07:48:14 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał: You have to understand Psalm 128 ! It has the clue ! Every servant of God will be blessed with a wife and children. There were servants in this lifetime who died celibate but the promise of God stands ! So those celibates will have wives and children in the future Paradise . > > > > http://wwww.focusonthebible2011.com You have already been told that you cannot interpret Psalm 128 the way you want to interpret it. Why do you want to believe your OWN lies so badly? If you want a wife-marry a woman NOW. But remember-a woman is not synonymous to a toy, what you have already been told either.

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You are in a desperate mental situation that only God can heal !
You don't grasp the meaning of Psalm 128 .It is already a good warning sign of your need to be healed by God .Right now at this point of time you are not qualified to interpret the Bible , even one verse from it !

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

voice of sanity

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W dniu piątek, 12 lipca 2013 18:07:47 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
> On Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:28:52 PM UTC-7, OB...@aol.com wrote: > You can make a case using the Book of Genesis that it is for the reproduction alone ! It is not so ! You have to know very well some other related to sex passages in the Bible. One good example is Pslam 128 . Every servant of God and there are some who die celibate will be blessed with a wife and children . And the earth must be populated which implies that in view of the fact that not many will be saved there must be sexual activity in the Paradise to fill up the earth with people . That means men and women from the very beginning in their lives in the Paradise must have sexual organs and of course they will stay that way throughout the eternity . That implies that sex in marriages is to be forever and mostly for pleasure if the earth is to be populated ( filled up ) and lives will go on further. You find me one man on this planet earth who has 4 children who had only 4 times sexual contacts just to have 4 children . Woman married who cannot have children would have to stop sexual activity completely if sex is only for giving a birth . All masturbating activities of men and women would senseless and sinful as you cannot give a birth to a child this way . If a woman decided to hava one child basically with the right knowledge when she can be impregnated she would have to have one sexual intecourse and that's it ! No more sex in her marital life ! If were looking a wife have you were you looking just to get a woman to have a child with her or rather to enjoy the pleasure of a woman ? What was a dominatiing factor ? It is a complete nonesense to envision human beings sexless in the Paradise without sexual organs ! http://www.focusonthebible2011.com
>
> ----
>
>
>
> You need mental healing !You are in desperate situation. But it is so deep that no doctor's medicine will help you
You're speaking of yourself, aren't you?

>
> There is no human being sexless ! If a woman attracts a man it is because of sex aspect .
Not really. Some men(most of them actually) are able to see something that you do not want to see-positive traits of a woman's character. For you it is only the body that matters. I think a rubber sex doll would please you just perfectly.

> The pleasure of good sex is so great that it is like the basis of eternal happiness after love towards God !
Wait...did you really say AFTER love towards God? Well, perhaps you are getting better....

> Knowing that a servant of God can wait it out for thousands of years abstaining from sex to have it and enjoy it later on all the time !
And obviously, you don't care about the woman at all. She could have no time for anything, but pleasing you sexually would be her duty. Nice joke, Obves.

> If I am celibate now it is not because no woman wants me now ! It is because I am waiting holding off for a much better time for a very good lasting sex !
But, sex as such does not exist in the Paradise. What is more, you are refusing it out of your own free will, so why would you be given a chance to have it endlessly in the Paradise? That's another product of your deluded mind. No book of the Bible supports your sick theories.

> That secrecy about sex in the Paradise was held secret by God in a super way as otherwise people realizing the whole truth would not marry in this lifetime by postponing sex for a later good time which will be in the Paradise .
It's no secret that sex does not exist in the Paradise, so what are you talking about?

> So how in the world anyone could decode this secret sex code by reading the Bible earlier ?!

Yet another proof that you see references to sex just everywhere. Your doctor must be really concerned about you...

voice of sanity

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W dniu piątek, 12 lipca 2013 18:13:44 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
> You are in a desperate mental situation that only God can heal !
Am I? I guess YOU are!

> You don't grasp the meaning of Psalm 128 .It is already a good warning sign of your need to be healed by God .Right now at this point of time you are not qualified to interpret the Bible , even one verse from it !

If I want to tell you the truth, I am allowed to do that everytime. You just don't like being told the truth, Obves!

Justin Kase

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<OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
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There is no human being sexless ! If a woman attracts a man it is because
of sex aspect .

# So what else do you plan to do with a woman other than have sex with her?
Where will she be when not having all this sex with you? And where do you
think you'll find her since no woman wants you now?

The pleasure of good sex is so great that it is like the basis of eternal
happiness after love towards God !
Knowing that a servant of God can wait it out for thousands of years
abstaining from sex to have it and enjoy it later on all the time !

# Waiting for thousands of years wont make the sex better at the end. Why
would it? God doesn't encourage celibacy. If he did, the earth would have
no people on it at all as no babies would be born. He commanded YOU to be
fruitful and multiply but you refuse to do that.

If I am celibate now it is not because no woman wants me now ! I

# Have you forgot you already told us some years ago your last sex partner
fled and no other woman would date you? That you couldn't find anyone else?


It is because I am waiting holding off for a much better time for a very
good lasting sex !

# Why not have that good lasting sex now as God commanded you to do?

That secrecy about sex in the Paradise was held secret by God in a super way
as otherwise people realizing the whole truth would not marry in this
lifetime by postponing sex for a later good time which will be in the
Paradise .

# OMG!!!! That is the craziest thing you've ever written since you claimed
to be Gods right-hand man. No one in their right mind would be celibate all
their lives because of some future paradise that Jesus said would be pure
and without sex and marriage.

You ignore this huge mystery solved now which is now known at the very
endtimes ( the right time ) . It could not have been known earlier . It was
reserved for our times but you don't understand that even if it is explained
to you . You don't understand the explanations given like most people do !
So how in the world anyone could decode this secret sex code by reading the
Bible earlier ?!

# The "secret sex code" exists only in your sex starved feverish mind.......


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Man learn first sexuality of man from any doctor at least.
You don't know what is sex .

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

Justin Kase

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"voice of sanity" <matreg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>Not really. Some men(most of them actually) are able to see something that
>you do not want to see-positive traits of a woman's character. For you it
>is only >the body that matters. I think a rubber sex doll would please you
>just perfectly.

All he sees in a woman is her vagina and *HIS* pleasure. Nothing else.
Nothing more. Is it any wonder that woman he dated about 10 years ago dumped
him like a hot rock? He doesn't even deny he feels this way about women.
He thinks they only exist, mindless and without feelings or needs, to
pleasure selfish oversexed men like him.

voice of sanity

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W dniu niedziela, 14 lipca 2013 06:38:43 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
> Man learn first sexuality of man from any doctor at least.
And that "any doctor" would tell you that pleasure is NOT the only purpose people have sex for. What is more, I am not speaking of the pleasure of a single person.

> You don't know what is sex .
It's not about exploiting a woman sexually that's for sure.

Get a life!

LashLarue ~~~~

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<OB...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Man learn first sexuality of man from any doctor at least.

* So you learned about sex from a Dr?

> You don't know what is sex .

* I don't? Then how did my spouse and I have children?

>

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Get real ! There are numerous books about sex . You completely have twisted views on sex . Find me one woman in the whole world who has 3 children and had only sexual intercourse 3 times to have the children !
I am writing about mutual sexual pleasure .

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W dniu sobota, 20 lipca 2013 02:22:24 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
> On Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:45:18 AM UTC-4, voice of sanity wrote:

> Get real ! There are numerous books about sex .
Yes, there are. But sadly, none of them approves of your distorted vision of what is sex.

> You completely have twisted views on sex . Find me one woman in the whole world who has 3 children and had only sexual intercourse 3 times to have the children !
But, sex solely for pleasure(the one you want so badly) DOES NOT EXIST now, nor will it exist in the Paradise.

> I am writing about mutual sexual pleasure .
Sure, you want a woman to be forced to have sex with you everytime YOU wish and now you're pretending that you care about someone else's pleasure as well?

You're equally self-deluded and ludicrous. If you want to marry a woman, do it now. There won't be a chance for that in the Paradise, especially if you postpone marriage out of your FREE will.

OB...@aol.com

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On Saturday, June 8, 2013 4:58:51 PM UTC-4, Greg Carr wrote:
> Your mental decline continues.
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Doing calculations I have been doing for years could have spared me from many health problems !
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/04/brain-training-video-game-old-age

Take Harold Camping who searched the Bible for decades by studying compelxities in the Bible .
At his age 90 he was better in his intelligent thinking that most students in colleges !

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com


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You don't know the Bible and what is sex for in the longer run .

Pslam 128

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

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You must be secretly uncoded from from your silly thinking about sex .

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

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Check it out may be she was artificially impregnated .


There are people who have children and yet know or not even realize that sex is for pleasure .

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

http://www

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On Monday, July 15, 2013 4:30:08 AM UTC-4, LashLarue ~~~~ wrote:
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If you had sex with your wife you would know sex is for pleasure !
So check it out someone else could be involved !Or may be you were hypnotized when having sex with your wife ?

http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

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You don't understand sexuality !
Find me a woman who is married for 30 years and has one child and had only time sexual intercourse to bear a child !
Most sexual relations are for pleasure !
Ask any grownup friend who is married and have one child or two children only .
Ask him if he had only one or two sexual intercourses to have a child or two children only .


http://www.focusonthebible2011.com

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W dniu wtorek, 10 września 2013 06:34:48 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
> You don't understand sexuality !
And you, having such a distorted view on it want to teach what it is? Nice joke!

> Find me a woman who is married for 30 years and has one child and had only time sexual intercourse to bear a child !
That's feasible. Sex is not like eating, or drinking. You don't need to have it every single day to survive.

> Most sexual relations are for pleasure !
But still, pleasure is not what sex is there for.

According to you, a man should have sex once in every five minutes, but nobody cares about that. Go see a doctor, you need a treatment.
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Definitely you got it wrong !
There might be some married people who have had sex say once a week or say even once a month and yet or even if they had once a year and have one child during a period of say 30 years that will prove that sex in their lives is mainly for pleasure .

If you have sex once a year and are 80 year old and have 3 children you had proven sex was for pleasure .

If I live in the Paradise to the age 100 000 000 000 years and have 10 000 children it will prove I had sex for pleasure ! Almost in 100% !

To prove sex is only for procreation you would have to have sexual intercourse for short few minutes or a minute one time only in your lifetime if you have one child !
You will not find such person to prove me I am wrong !
Only one time more sex it would already prove sex is for pleasure !
You would be breaking God's law so you would seek the best time to impregnate your wife to have a child and that means you would seek to have only one sexual intercourse in your lifetime if you wanted one child only .

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All in all sex is a basic need for a man and a woman to be happy throughout the eternity .

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W dniu piątek, 13 września 2013 06:46:34 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
> All in all sex is a basic need for a man and a woman to be happy throughout the eternity .

No. The basic need of a man in the eternal life is to be close to God. When a person is close to Him, nothing else is important. Especially such down-to-earth things like sex for its own sake.

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You did not say anything new ! Check my posts . For me God of the Bible is number 1 and then the next is sex !
That is why I did not marry yet and try to hold off ! This shows that God is number 1 for me if I put aside marriage and sex .
You will not do it I think .
To live a celibate life postponing sex is a best sign or proof that some must love God above all things .

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You don't see how it will be in the Paradise !
You have to have a vision of Paradise .


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W dniu sobota, 14 września 2013 22:07:45 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:

> You did not say anything new ! Check my posts . For me God of the Bible is number 1 and then the next is sex !
Oh, really? And where would you put relationship with other people on that strange "list" of yours? Is sex more important to you than any emotions a human being is capable of?

> That is why I did not marry yet and try to hold off ! This shows that God is number 1 for me if I put aside marriage and sex .
If you have not married any woman so far, it only means that you don't need a wife. In the paradise, you will not have the opportunity to get married anymore. Face that simple truth, instead of boring the others with your sickening theories on what love and marriage are like.

> You will not do it I think .
What will I not do?

> To live a celibate life postponing sex is a best sign or proof that some must love God above all things .
One thing, Obves. If a person lives a celibate life, it does not mean that he/she wants to just postpone the sexual intimacy. It means that the person rejects it for the purpose of enjoying something, which is superior to your vision of a sex-based "paradise" in every way imaginable.

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W dniu niedziela, 15 września 2013 00:10:51 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:
> You don't see how it will be in the Paradise !
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> You have to have a vision of Paradise .

You don't know it either. You're just lying and making things up. And your "visions" of the Paradise stem from your delusions, having nothing to do with the Bible.
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Just examine my posts well and you should know I do have a vision !

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People who see sexless Paradise could be deluded .
Psalm 128 well examined proves there will be sexual relations in the Paradise .

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When examined well, Psalm 128 describes the present life of men. You don't want to marry in your present life which means that you do not need sex at all. And what does the Bible say on that? "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven". It's Matthew 22:30. I bet you hate that verse as it proves that you are WRONG again. Get a life and try to marry now, or you won't have another chance to do it.

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I have explained that reference long time ago !
Jesus was teaching in figures of speech - Matthew 13.11,34-35.

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On Saturday, October 5, 2013 5:18:36 AM UTC-4, voice of sanity wrote:
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You are not qualified to interpret the Bible in the first place .You must be convinced based on the Bible you are qualified to do so . Otherwise you willk commit blunders .
Harold Camping of the Family Radio studied the Bible for decades like no other human being to my knowledge .. for more than 50 decades !
For most of that time he was 100% sure there was hot hell for those condemned !
He could quote many verses to prove that and yet later on he had changed his view on hell admitting he was wrong !

Matthew 22.30 is commonly misinterpreted I already explained that . You don't understand or rather don't want to accept what the Bible actually is saying about marriage and sex.
If someone doesn't marry now and you have example in Jesus Christ that doesn't mean sex is bad or will not be in the future .
I can simply postpone marriage and sex for a better time .
Psalm 128 is about every servant of God that fears God and God made a promise that each servant will be blessed with a wife and children regardless of time .
There are servants who fear God now and die celibate but the promise in Psalm 128 stands ! And it must be fulfilled 100% for every servant of God.

The reference Matthew 22.30 is a figure of speech Jesus was commonly teaching using parables.
Matthew 13.11,34-35 :says who can understand God's mysteries of God's Kingdom and who cannot and you are example of those who cannot grasp God's love as portrayed in the Bible and sexual intimacy that plays such important role in making a man or a woman happy together.


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W dniu sobota, 5 października 2013 21:58:56 UTC+2 użytkownik OB...@aol.com napisał:

> Matthew 22.30 is commonly misinterpreted I already explained that . You don't understand or rather don't want to accept what the Bible actually is saying about marriage and sex.
What the Bible says is that none shall enter a marriage or be given into one in the God's Kingdom. The time to conclude a marriage is NOW. If you don't do it, it would mean you just don't need to get married. "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven"-people won't marry but you think it's a lie. Pathetic. Stop making things up.

> If someone doesn't marry now and you have example in Jesus Christ that doesn't mean sex is bad or will not be in the future .
If someone does not marry it means that that person is able to sacrifice sex for the greater good. Nobody who chooses a celibate life is looking forward to having sex in God's Kingdom. Quit dreaming, Obves.

> I can simply postpone marriage and sex for a better time .
No, you can't. If you postpone marriage you just show that you don't need it.

> Psalm 128 is about every servant of God that fears God and God made a promise that each servant will be blessed with a wife and children regardless of time .
You are trying to put God's mercy to the test, don't you. I am pretty sure that you were given numerous chances to marry in your life. If you rejected all of them, you proved that you are not willing to marry. Nothing more and nothing less. There's no "postponing" of the marriage possible.

> There are servants who fear God now and die celibate but the promise in Psalm 128 stands ! And it must be fulfilled 100% for every servant of God.
You mean priests? They give up marriage for the sake of God's service. They do not expect to get married in the eternal life. What is more, how can you be sure that a person, who died celibate would have married a man/woman? You can't say it for sure. But you do.

> The reference Matthew 22.30 is a figure of speech Jesus was commonly teaching using parables.
No, it is not. There is no comparison of one thing to another. It is just said that people are not going to marry in God's Kingdom. If you say this verse is a figure of speech you either are trying to make yourself feel good, or you are lying.

> Matthew 13.11,34-35 :says who can understand God's mysteries of God's Kingdom and who cannot and you are example of those who cannot grasp God's love as portrayed in the Bible and sexual intimacy that plays such important role in making a man or a woman happy together.
It is not sexual intimacy that makes people want to live with each other. Have you ever heard about love and commitment? I guess you have not.

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