CJ
Urundai Kozhambu
real name is GB. He has given book reviews on the internet which he has alluded
to in the past few days. And in those reviews he applauds Jehovah's Witnesses.
He put out an inquiry about a DVD that he was looking for that demonstrates anal
sex. He also talks about how much he likes oral sex. He also has prostrate
trouble.
That is the CJ that is defending the Watchtower and Bible Society. I had
assumed he was not living the life that he so defended, and now I have proof of
it.
No wonder he didn't like the Society being criticized for their history of
protecting sexual perverts. It would be interesting if he is a baptized
Jehovah's Witness or just someone who is enamored with the concept? Maybe he
believes that by defending Jehovah's Witnesses, he will 'buy' his way into their
imaginary paradise?
curtjester1
wrote:
> CJ is a 59 year old man who admits to being a homosexual. The initials of his
> real name is GB. He has given book reviews on the internet which he has alluded
> to in the past few days. And in those reviews he applauds Jehovah's Witnesses.
> He put out an inquiry about a DVD that he was looking for that demonstrates anal
> sex. He also talks about how much he likes oral sex. He also has prostrate
> trouble.
>
HD...so you can guess the rest is well uhhhh...
> That is the CJ that is defending the Watchtower and Bible Society. I had
> assumed he was not living the life that he so defended, and now I have proof of
> it.
>
For a teetotaller and one who sits home every night, I can't say that
I would be rated higher than a fuddy duddy.
> No wonder he didn't like the Society being criticized for their history of
> protecting sexual perverts. It would be interesting if he is a baptized
> Jehovah's Witness or just someone who is enamored with the concept? Maybe he
> believes that by defending Jehovah's Witnesses, he will 'buy' his way into their
> imaginary paradise?
I didn't defend them, I merely said other sex crimes are much worse
and much more prevalent in society and other religions. Why would one
pick on that and not the other? I don't buy into anything, that's
Christendom's thing. They have the "hired man" which is in John 10
and they have people that donate quite a bit being told that they are
saved (no matter the life they lead). I would say that is more on the
buying aspect of salvation. For me, I'd leave it to God to judge me
in the way that He said he would, and leave it entirely up to Him and
his conditions and decision.
They sure come out of the woodwork, don't they?
CJ
Urundai Kozhambu
curtjester1 says...
>
>On Dec 27, 11:27=A0pm, Urundai Kozhambu <Urundai_mem...@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
>> CJ is a 59 year old man who admits to being a homosexual. =A0The initials=
> of his
>> real name is GB. He has given book reviews on the internet which he ha=
>s alluded
>> to in the past few days. And in those reviews he applauds Jehovah's Wi=
>tnesses.
>> He put out an inquiry about a DVD that he was looking for that demonstrat=
>es anal
>> sex. He also talks about how much he likes oral sex. He also has prost=
>rate
>> trouble.
>>
>At least a half a dozen lies. My initials in my email account are
>HD...so you can guess the rest is well uhhhh...
Your name is Gary Bergman. You even used the name Gary when you first started
posting with WebTV, fucking liar!
On YouTube you said you were gay. That's not someone else. That's you, lying
asshole! In that same YouTube account you are subscribed to crazy4patsycline.
There are several more posts to usenet by you about how much you admire Patsy
Cline. It's all there, Gary.
You are the one who wrote recently about the "Fed" and the Illuminati and about
Moonlight Graham and The Field of Dreams. Those are the subjects of three books
that you left comments on in Amazon.com.
You're not the first Jehovah's Witness who's claimed to be something that
they're not. You're a wannabe golfer, a wannabe musician, and a wannabe
Jehovah's Witness!
Florence B. Nitengail
"Urundai Kozhambu" <Urundai...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:hh9c3...@drn.newsguy.com...
> CJ is a 59 year old man who admits to being a homosexual.
The JWs allow gays as long as they agree not to have sex with people of
their sex.
The initials of his
> real name is GB. He has given book reviews on the internet which he has
> alluded
> to in the past few days. And in those reviews he applauds Jehovah's
> Witnesses.
> He put out an inquiry about a DVD that he was looking for that
> demonstrates anal
> sex. He also talks about how much he likes oral sex. He also has
> prostrate
> trouble.
Disgusting............ eeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuwww. :� He can be DFed for
that.
>
> That is the CJ that is defending the Watchtower and Bible Society. I had
> assumed he was not living the life that he so defended, and now I have
> proof of
> it.
Few of them really are. They live double lives.
>
> No wonder he didn't like the Society being criticized for their history of
> protecting sexual perverts. It would be interesting if he is a baptized
> Jehovah's Witness or just someone who is enamored with the concept? Maybe
> he
> believes that by defending Jehovah's Witnesses, he will 'buy' his way into
> their
> imaginary paradise?
Quite possibly.
Urundai Kozhambu
Nitengail says...
>
>
>"Urundai Kozhambu" <Urundai...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>news:hh9c3...@drn.newsguy.com...
>> CJ is a 59 year old man who admits to being a homosexual.
>
>The JWs allow gays as long as they agree not to have sex with people of
>their sex.
argued extensively about how children were once allowed to be married and have
sex. Even though that's historically true, he seems obsessed with the concept.
Children are children and they need to grow up as children - not some pervert's
sex toy.
>The initials of his
>> real name is GB. He has given book reviews on the internet which he has
>> alluded
>> to in the past few days. And in those reviews he applauds Jehovah's
>> Witnesses.
>> He put out an inquiry about a DVD that he was looking for that
>> demonstrates anal
>> sex. He also talks about how much he likes oral sex. He also has
>> prostrate
>> trouble.
>
>Disgusting............ eeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuwww. :� He can be DFed for
>that.
Most of what he says about Jehovah's Witnesses seems to come from several years
ago. Chances are he once studied extensively with Jehovah's Witnesses but
either never became baptized or was disfellowshipped. He knows a lot about the
CONCEPT of being a JW but not about the PRACTICE of being a JW. In one of his
posts he defended homosexuality but added that homosexuals should not join
religions that do not accept them.
>> That is the CJ that is defending the Watchtower and Bible Society. I had
>> assumed he was not living the life that he so defended, and now I have
>> proof of
>> it.
>
>Few of them really are. They live double lives.
They have to live double lives because no one can possibly follow all their
rules.
>> No wonder he didn't like the Society being criticized for their history of
>> protecting sexual perverts. It would be interesting if he is a baptized
>> Jehovah's Witness or just someone who is enamored with the concept? Maybe
>> he
>> believes that by defending Jehovah's Witnesses, he will 'buy' his way into
>> their
>> imaginary paradise?
>
>Quite possibly.
He pooed off what I had said previously about how many people cannot accept the
fact that they are mortal. But that's where he's at. He believes in the
Jehovah's Witnesses fairy tales but he cannot live up to their expectations.
So, the only other option for him is to feel good about 'preaching' their
nonsense.
Homosexuality has always been around and it is not evil. I personally don't
understand it but I don't condemn others because of my short sightedness.
He will never feel good about himself until he realizes that the WTBTS is
bullshit.
curtjester1
wrote:
> In article <e7d4b59a-b56d-4802-ad78-b0469a74e...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> curtjester1 says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Dec 27, 11:27=A0pm, Urundai Kozhambu <Urundai_mem...@newsguy.com>
> >wrote:
> >> CJ is a 59 year old man who admits to being a homosexual. =A0The initials=
> > of his
> >> real name is GB. He has given book reviews on the internet which he ha=
> >s alluded
> >> to in the past few days. And in those reviews he applauds Jehovah's Wi=
> >tnesses.
> >> He put out an inquiry about a DVD that he was looking for that demonstrat=
> >es anal
> >> sex. He also talks about how much he likes oral sex. He also has prost=
> >rate
> >> trouble.
>
> >At least a half a dozen lies. My initials in my email account are
> >HD...so you can guess the rest is well uhhhh...
>
> Your name is Gary Bergman. You even used the name Gary when you first started
> posting with WebTV, fucking liar!
>
> On YouTube you said you were gay.
I guess gay people look around on the internet for other people? I
have never stated, ever, that I was gay, or have gay tendencies, and
have many cites that readily infer my straightness. Of course a
polygraph wouldn't do for this nut, since he would have no backbone to
ante up some cash on his slanderous accusation. Many of these types
of people in these groups have no interest in religion at all, only an
agenda of mischief and trolling.
CJ
That's not someone else. That's you, lying
> asshole! In that same YouTube account you are subscribed to crazy4patsycline.
> There are several more posts to usenet by you about how much you admire Patsy
> Cline. It's all there, Gary.
>
> You are the one who wrote recently about the "Fed" and the Illuminati and about
> Moonlight Graham and The Field of Dreams. Those are the subjects of three books
> that you left comments on in Amazon.com.
>
> You're not the first Jehovah's Witness who's claimed to be something that
> they're not. You're a wannabe golfer, a wannabe musician, and a wannabe
> Jehovah's Witness!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Florence B. Nitengail
> In article <4b3968f1$0$2430$834e...@reader.greatnowhere.com>, Florence B.
> Nitengail says...
>>
>>
>>"Urundai Kozhambu" <Urundai...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>>news:hh9c3...@drn.newsguy.com...
>>> CJ is a 59 year old man who admits to being a homosexual.
>>
>>The JWs allow gays as long as they agree not to have sex with people of
>>their sex.
>
> That's only what he has admitted to, but it gets much deeper than that.
> He has
> argued extensively about how children were once allowed to be married and
> have
> sex. Even though that's historically true, he seems obsessed with the
> concept.
> Children are children and they need to grow up as children - not some
> pervert's
> sex toy.
Good grief!!!!!! How did you find all this out about him? Someone posted a
site (a few years back) with statistics showing that JWs as a Org have the
highest number of mentally ill people studied. Yet, the WTS deceitfully
claims they're a "clean" org. From what I saw, as long as the JW was a good
book and magazine seller and was bringing in the converts, the cong' looked
the other way.
>>
>>Disgusting............ eeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuwww. :� He can be DFed for
>>that.
> Most of what he says about Jehovah's Witnesses seems to come from several
> years
> ago. Chances are he once studied extensively with Jehovah's Witnesses but
> either never became baptized or was disfellowshipped. He knows a lot
> about the
> CONCEPT of being a JW but not about the PRACTICE of being a JW. In one of
> his
> posts he defended homosexuality but added that homosexuals should not join
> religions that do not accept them.
If he was DFed for being gay that was because another JW became aware that
he was seeing or dating another man. They spy on, talk about, and rat on
each other all the time. Or he could have been too pro-homosexual and an
elder took offence.
>>
>>Few of them really are. They live double lives.
>
> They have to live double lives because no one can possibly follow all
> their
> rules.
Exactly. This causes many of them stress, misery, guilt.... I've seen it.
It's sad.
Maybe
>>> he
>>> believes that by defending Jehovah's Witnesses, he will 'buy' his way
>>> into
>>> their
>>> imaginary paradise?
>>Quite possibly.
> He pooed off what I had said previously about how many people cannot
> accept the
> fact that they are mortal. But that's where he's at. He believes in the
> Jehovah's Witnesses fairy tales but he cannot live up to their
> expectations.
> So, the only other option for him is to feel good about 'preaching' their
> nonsense.
He may get over that stage. Some of them do. They finally move
on...........
>
> Homosexuality has always been around and it is not evil. I personally
> don't
> understand it but I don't condemn others because of my short sightedness.
>
> He will never feel good about himself until he realizes that the WTBTS is
> bullshit.
I don't condemn them either. I've known several from past jobs (coworkers)
who became good friends, plus one trans-gender person I still keep in
contact with. These difference are not a choice. They're BORN that way.
Unfortunately some cults and religions still teach their followers it's a
choice. The JW cult among them.
Rob
"curtjester1" <curtj...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8a399ff2-ead8-475c...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 28, 4:35 pm, Urundai Kozhambu <Urundai_mem...@newsguy.com>
wrote:
> In article
<e7d4b59a-b56d-4802-ad78-b0469a74e...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> curtjester1 says...
>
> >On Dec 27, 11:27=A0pm, Urundai Kozhambu <Urundai_mem...@newsguy.com>
> >wrote:
>
> Your name is Gary Bergman. You even used the name Gary when you first
started
> posting with WebTV, fucking liar!
>
> On YouTube you said you were gay.
I guess gay people look around on the internet for other people? I
have never stated, ever, that I was gay, or have gay tendencies, and
have many cites that readily infer my straightness. Of course a
polygraph wouldn't do for this nut, since he would have no backbone to
ante up some cash on his slanderous accusation. Many of these types
of people in these groups have no interest in religion at all, only an
agenda of mischief and trolling.
CJ
No, most people here are trying to warn people not to waste their lives as a
JW. We also warn them that they'll be lied to and lose their family and
friends if they question the GB idiots in NYC. We also warn that JW's harbor
pedophiles and protect them in court. They deny writing child custody books,
and they lie about how they treat DF'd people.
If telling the world that pedophiles go door to door and continue to molest
children until they die is "mischief", then you are a jackass. I've warned
hundreds of people in my area and now the cops drive right up and throw them
out of town. And I'm proud I helped do that.
JW's do indeed have the highest rate of mental illness among any religion
and many times worse than the world they love to mock and insult. (Not
Christian conduct. And I do NOT have to act Christian because I'm not a
Christian. YOU are the hypocrite.)
You also have the mental illness symptom of having to have the last word, as
if that makes you the winner. To prove you don't have mental illness, do NOT
answer my post here. If you are such a mature "big" man with gracious
behavior, then do not answer this post. I bet you can't do it. You'll either
jump right in and fight or you'll struggle with my dare, knowing that if you
don't answer, I might think I beat you, and you can't stand that.
Why don't you meet me in person? I'll take you to a group of grown ex-JW's
who were molested in their teens and DF'd for telling the police. I'll just
leave you with them for 5 minutes. How about it, wussy?? Try using your
stupid statements on them. If you go, put your affairs in order first.
curtjester1
> "curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
cases are concerned with what actually happened vs. what was alleged
to happen. I would categorize, and I am not close to the situation,
but I would think since they are so closely knit as a group and in
families that it would be more likely to be a hormonal thing and a
they said vs. they said thing. This is not some slave trade,
prostitution, snuff film, porno, homosexual ring activities where one
could find a huge amount of cases elsewhere. So, people that spend
time doing this, are they really cared about sex crimes in general in
the public or in religious circles? No.
> If telling the world that pedophiles go door to door and continue to molest
> children until they die is "mischief", then you are a jackass. I've warned
> hundreds of people in my area and now the cops drive right up and throw them
> out of town. And I'm proud I helped do that.
>
It's definitely not compelling news when sex crime in general could be
looked at. Also, no one seems to address age of consent's throughout
history where even in Christ's time in Rome it was under the age of 10
for consent. Of course it was due to the life expectancy and the need
to procreate sooner, but you'll find it much less in the centuries
prior generally, and even in many societies today, the ages are
younger for consent. So, it's not just something of a manufactured
age that should bring the woe is me, automatic attitude. You're only
proud I would assume because you already were disgrunted religously in
someway, and just took it up as an anthem cause, I bet I bet.
> JW's do indeed have the highest rate of mental illness among any religion
> and many times worse than the world they love to mock and insult. (Not
> Christian conduct. And I do NOT have to act Christian because I'm not a
> Christian. YOU are the hypocrite.)
>
JW's are the best behaved, and have the best speaking ability of any
group around. I think your elitists who make laws must be mentally
ill, since they can't even add basic numbers to balance a budget. Now
they have every family owing over $500K just in debt payment owed to
the 60 trillion in fake money (counterfeiting is the more concise
term)...that is mortgaging several generations if not making it ever
possible to pay back.
> You also have the mental illness symptom of having to have the last word, as
> if that makes you the winner. To prove you don't have mental illness, do NOT
> answer my post here. If you are such a mature "big" man with gracious
> behavior, then do not answer this post. I bet you can't do it. You'll either
> jump right in and fight or you'll struggle with my dare, knowing that if you
> don't answer, I might think I beat you, and you can't stand that.
>
You should have put this first oh bright one, if you didn't want me to
answer!! LOL. I could care less if you read this or answer back.
> Why don't you meet me in person? I'll take you to a group of grown ex-JW's
> who were molested in their teens and DF'd for telling the police. I'll just
> leave you with them for 5 minutes. How about it, wussy?? Try using your
> stupid statements on them. If you go, put your affairs in order first.
Well, if I did, I would like to see them all take a polygraph, as I
would take anyone's testimony at face value, practically valueless.
You need a lot to verify truth, and for sexual harrassment and many of
those types of things, it's never really uncovered because of the lack
of witnesses beyond the alleged situation.
CJ
Urundai Kozhambu
He's still posting under the same NNTP posting host 208.125.155.22 as he did
when he asked for a DVD on Ebay:
"I'm looking for Traci Lords dvds where she gets it in the pooper."
I've already posted the expanded headers for that posting and his posting host
is 208.125.155.22. It is the exact same person. He can deny it till the cows
come home but he is the person who asked for a DVD of Traci Lords depicting anal
sex.
>>>Disgusting............ eeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuwww. :� He can be DFed for
>>>that.
>
>> Most of what he says about Jehovah's Witnesses seems to come from several
>> years
>> ago. Chances are he once studied extensively with Jehovah's Witnesses but
>> either never became baptized or was disfellowshipped. He knows a lot
>> about the
>> CONCEPT of being a JW but not about the PRACTICE of being a JW. In one of
>> his
>> posts he defended homosexuality but added that homosexuals should not join
>> religions that do not accept them.
>
>If he was DFed for being gay that was because another JW became aware that
>he was seeing or dating another man. They spy on, talk about, and rat on
>each other all the time. Or he could have been too pro-homosexual and an
>elder took offence.
I won't speculate on that, but I do know that he put out positive gay messages.
>>>Few of them really are. They live double lives.
>>
>> They have to live double lives because no one can possibly follow all
>> their
>> rules.
>
>Exactly. This causes many of them stress, misery, guilt.... I've seen it.
>It's sad.
You're seeing it right here. The man has spent a decade defending the Jehovah's
Witnesses but he has admitted that he is gay.
> Maybe
>>>> he
>>>> believes that by defending Jehovah's Witnesses, he will 'buy' his way
>>>> into
>>>> their
>>>> imaginary paradise?
>
>>>Quite possibly.
>
>> He pooed off what I had said previously about how many people cannot
>> accept the
>> fact that they are mortal. But that's where he's at. He believes in the
>> Jehovah's Witnesses fairy tales but he cannot live up to their
>> expectations.
>> So, the only other option for him is to feel good about 'preaching' their
>> nonsense.
>
>He may get over that stage. Some of them do. They finally move
>on...........
He may move on in time but right now he seems to be in denial.
>> Homosexuality has always been around and it is not evil. I personally
>> don't
>> understand it but I don't condemn others because of my short sightedness.
>>
>> He will never feel good about himself until he realizes that the WTBTS is
>> bullshit.
>
>I don't condemn them either. I've known several from past jobs (coworkers)
>who became good friends, plus one trans-gender person I still keep in
>contact with. These difference are not a choice. They're BORN that way.
>Unfortunately some cults and religions still teach their followers it's a
>choice. The JW cult among them.
What I don't understand, in this day and age, his reluctance to admit that he's
gay. The very religion that he wastes his time defending is one of the few that
will condemn him.
Sockie
Well, if I did, I would like to see them all take a polygraph, as I
would take anyone's testimony at face value, practically valueless.
You need a lot to verify truth, and for sexual harrassment and many of
those types of things, it's never really uncovered because of the lack
of witnesses beyond the alleged situation.
CJ
You'll come up with any bullshit to protect the members of your cult wont
you?
Urundai Kozhambu
curtjester1 says...
>
>On Dec 28, 4:35=A0pm, Urundai Kozhambu <Urundai_mem...@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On YouTube you said you were gay.
>
>I guess gay people look around on the internet for other people?
You've been making posts to usenet for at least 10 years. Why are you trying to
play dumb?
>I have never stated, ever, that I was gay, or have gay tendencies, and
>have many cites that readily infer my straightness.
This is what you wrote, liar:
"im gay hey what can i say i like guys so it you dont like it suck ont it cuz
ill like it"
>Of course a polygraph wouldn't do for this nut, since he would have no >backbone
>to ante up some cash on his slanderous accusation.
Polygraph? You wrote it, idiot! It has nothing to do with me.
>Many of these types of people in these groups have no interest in religion at
>>all, only an agenda of mischief and trolling.
Which has nothing at all to do with the fact that you said you were gay. I
didn't say it - you did.
Why are you lying, Gary? Is it because you're dragging your god, Jehovah,
through the muck? Is it because you can't live your life as a homosexual and be
a Jehovah's Witness at the same time? That must be pretty frustrating, Gary.
You're too old to be living your last days in the closet, Gary.
curtjester1
> "curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
A reading comprehension problem? I already said I wasn't around any
situation(s). Of course, these trolls never go after any OTHER sex
crimes or sex GROUPS that are much worse. Why is that??!! How about
the sex trade where they take girls from country to country? How
about the sex trade where elitists in business and gov't are caught
being infiltrated being in satanic ritual that programs young children
at a young age for sexual abuse and even child sacrifice in murder?
Trolls only do this to gain attention, are Satanists themselves, or
never wanted to be apart of worshipping in a KH so they retaliate.
CJ
Sockie
On Dec 31, 3:06 am, "Sockie" <Sockie-1...@Socksland.com> wrote:
> "curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5b609621-1c30-4d1f...@e20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Well, if I did, I would like to see them all take a polygraph, as I
> would take anyone's testimony at face value, practically valueless.
> You need a lot to verify truth, and for sexual harrassment and many of
> those types of things, it's never really uncovered because of the lack
> of witnesses beyond the alleged situation.
>
> CJ
>
> You'll come up with any bullshit to protect the members of your cult wont
> you?
A reading comprehension problem?
^ Do you? Apparently you do.
I already said I wasn't around any
situation(s). Of course, these trolls never go after any OTHER sex
crimes or sex GROUPS that are much worse. Why is that??!!
^ Of course they do. Where the hell do you live - in a remote cave
somewhere?
How about
the sex trade where they take girls from country to country? How
about the sex trade where elitists in business and gov't are caught
being infiltrated being in satanic ritual that programs young children
at a young age for sexual abuse and even child sacrifice in murder?
^ So knowing these things occur makes it OK for the WTS to look the other
way as the RCC did for years?
Trolls only do this to gain attention, are Satanists themselves, or
never wanted to be apart of worshipping in a KH so they retaliate.
^ I think you're the Satanist and troll here.
CJ
Florence B. Nitengail
>
> You're too old to be living your last days in the closet, Gary.
>
I wonder if he's a typical old chicken hawk or goes for those his own
age.............
Urundai Kozhambu
Nitengail says...
>
>
Who knows? Have you looked up his name on a sex offender list?
He has posted under these 'names:'
There were posts where he signed 'CJ' while using GWB...@webtv.net. Of course
the GWBerg is short for Gary W. Bergman, and he's always writing about the same
thing, conspiracies, golf, Jehovah's Witnesses.
He has spent time in both California and New Jersey. He wrote this back in 2001:
"My grandparents spoke German, met in Rumania, lived in Russia and Turkey in the
late 1880'a and early 1900's.
My home address now is 8657 Dedion Ct., Sacramento, CA., 95828"
Gary Bergman (curtjester1) wrote this only a few weeks ago:
"I'm looking for Traci Lords dvds where she gets it in the pooper"
You can see it here:
So, it's not as if he has changed his ways. He must live in constant torment -
being a Jehovah's Witness and a homosexual.
Florence B. Nitengail
No I haven't looked him up. How sad. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.
There are churches that accept guys - he should go to one of them.
Rob
On Dec 29, 6:24 pm, "Rob" <rob9a8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>
JW's are the best behaved, and have the best speaking ability of any
group around. I think your elitists who make laws must be mentally
ill, since they can't even add basic numbers to balance a budget. Now
they have every family owing over $500K just in debt payment owed to
the 60 trillion in fake money (counterfeiting is the more concise
term)...that is mortgaging several generations if not making it ever
possible to pay back.
>
You should have put this first oh bright one, if you didn't want me to
answer!! LOL. I could care less if you read this or answer back.
> Why don't you meet me in person? I'll take you to a group of grown ex-JW's
> who were molested in their teens and DF'd for telling the police. I'll
just
> leave you with them for 5 minutes. How about it, wussy?? Try using your
> stupid statements on them. If you go, put your affairs in order first.
CJ
*** JW's are known to hide, protect, and defend pedophiles. It's been on TV
many times. And yes, you do care if I answer back because you insist on
having the last word. You try to have the last post far more often than you
let someone say something against you and then let it be. "Oh bright one"??
Is that your proof for god?? We're still waiting, oh fat one.
Rob
"Florence B. Nitengail" <no...@nospamforme.net> wrote in message
news:4b3d1a7c$0$2428$834e...@reader.greatnowhere.com...
If the picture posted of him is correct, he couldn't FIT in a closet. And if
his brain were to be as big as HE thinks it is, he wouldn't fit in the room.
Sorry, Curtsie, you like to dish it out so you should be able to take it as
well. You're a fat smart-ass who would get stomped in real life. You're
really tough sitting at your desk hiding behind your computer. The WT and
JW's are falling apart. So you cry in private and play intellectual here.
Doesn't work, does it??
Why don't you find old jerkoff joe, obves, and elijahovah or whatever that
idiot's name is and the four of you can go see a psychiatrist together and
maybe you'll qualify for a group rate?? You can get one large economy size
bottle of psych meds and share that. That will save you some money so you
can pay for the brain surgery you need to reverse the brain donor operation
you had years ago.
~.^.Saba Gracile.^.~
"Urundai Kozhambu" <Urundai...@newsguy.com> skrev i melding
news:hhl25...@drn.newsguy.com...
Why would he care about Traci Lord getting it in the pooper if he's gay?
>
Urundai Kozhambu
Gracile.^.~ says...
It's more than that. Traci's porn movies were filmed when she was 15 and 16
years old. That's considered a child in the USA. Her porn films are illegal to
purchase or rent in the USA. Curtjester1 was clearly searching on the internet
for an illegal child pornography movie.
He would make a great Jehovah's Witness elder, yes?
~.^.Saba Gracile.^.~
He sure fits. Those JW's become animals its natural to them.
S
>
Urundai Kozhambu
Go to this site and read what he wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/user/curtjester1
"im gay hey what can i say i like guys so it you dont like it suck ont it cuz
ill like it"
Note that he is still using curtjester1's channel (up to one day ago) as of this
post. Also note that he is subscribed to crazy4patsycline
He has posted several times in music newsgroups about how he likes Patsy Cline
who was a country singer in the USA.
Apparently, he believes that defending Jehovah's Witnesses on the internet will
buy him a spot in the JW's imaginary paradise.
curtjester1
wrote:
> "Urundai Kozhambu" <Urundai_mem...@newsguy.com> skrev i meldingnews:hhl25...@drn.newsguy.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <4b3d1a7c$0$2428$834e4...@reader.greatnowhere.com>, Florence B.
> > Nitengail says...
>
> >>"Urundai Kozhambu" <Urundai_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
> >>news:hhiiq...@drn.newsguy.com...
>
> >>> You're too old to be living your last days in the closet, Gary.
>
> >>I wonder if he's a typical old chicken hawk or goes for those his own
> >>age.............
>
> > Who knows? Have you looked up his name on a sex offender list?
>
> > He has posted under these 'names:'
>
> > GWB...@webtv.net
>
>
> > curtjes...@webtv.net
>
> > curtjest...@hotmail.com
>
> > There were posts where he signed 'CJ' while using GWB...@webtv.net. Of
> > course
> > the GWBerg is short for Gary W. Bergman, and he's always writing about the
> > same
> > thing, conspiracies, golf, Jehovah's Witnesses.
>
> > He has spent time in both California and New Jersey. He wrote this back in
> > 2001:
>
> > "My grandparents spoke German, met in Rumania, lived in Russia and Turkey
> > in the
> > late 1880'a and early 1900's.
> > My home address now is 8657 Dedion Ct., Sacramento, CA., 95828"
>
> > Gary Bergman (curtjester1) wrote this only a few weeks ago:
>
> > "I'm looking for Traci Lords dvds where she gets it in the pooper"
>
> > You can see it here:
>
>
> > So, it's not as if he has changed his ways. He must live in constant
> > torment -
> > being a Jehovah's Witness and a homosexual.
>
> Why would he care about Traci Lord getting it in the pooper if he's gay?
>
>
>
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Of course it doesn't fit reason does it? How many times do people
complain about getting hacked into for their ID's and user names?
It's a huge complaint in the internet. I had a person I didn't know
from high school just go into it a few days ago on a classmates.com
discussion. If one goes to their 'account', and goes to 'web
history', they will probably find like I did numerous things that I
have never visited attributed to web surfing's there. There is a
'remove' button just for these. Watch out for predators on the net,
that would like nothing more than abuse and besmirch a name without
any backing. I am sure they would never give their real name or
address as they would be a candidate for court proceeding's for libel
and slander.
CJ
Urundai Kozhambu
curtjester1 says...
>
>On Jan 10, 12:51=A0pm, "~.^.Saba Gracile.^.~" <veron...@frisurf.no>
>wrote:
>> "Urundai Kozhambu" <Urundai_mem...@newsguy.com> skrev i meldingnews:hhl25=
>402...@drn.newsguy.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > In article <4b3d1a7c$0$2428$834e4...@reader.greatnowhere.com>, Florence=
> B.
>> > Nitengail says...
>>
>> >>"Urundai Kozhambu" <Urundai_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:hhiiq...@drn.newsguy.com...
>>
>> >>> You're too old to be living your last days in the closet, Gary.
>>
>> >>I wonder if he's a typical old chicken hawk or goes for those his own
>> >>age.............
>>
>>
>> > He has posted under these 'names:'
>>
>> > GWB...@webtv.net
>>
>> > CurtJes...@webtv.net
>>
>> > curtjes...@webtv.net
>>
>> > curtjest...@hotmail.com
>>
>Of
>> > course
>> > the GWBerg is short for Gary W. Bergman, and he's always writing about =
>the
>> > same
>> > thing, conspiracies, golf, Jehovah's Witnesses.
>>
> in
>> > 2001:
>>
>> > "My grandparents spoke German, met in Rumania, lived in Russia and Turk=
>ey
>> > in the
>> > late 1880'a and early 1900's.
>> > My home address now is 8657 Dedion Ct., Sacramento, CA., 95828"
>>
>> > Gary Bergman (curtjester1) wrote this only a few weeks ago:
>>
>> > "I'm looking for Traci Lords dvds where she gets it in the pooper"
>>
>> > You can see it here:
>>
>> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.marketplace.online.ebay/browse_thr...
>>
>> > torment -
>> > being a Jehovah's Witness and a homosexual.
>>
>> Why would he care about Traci Lord getting it in the pooper if he's gay?
>>
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>> - Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
>
>than abuse and besmirch a name without any backing.
As I've already pointed out, whomever made that post about wanting a Traci Lord
DVD has the same IP address as you do, Gary. Either you entered the inquiry
regarding the Traci DVD or someone else used your computer and knew your
passwords. Fat chance, right?
>I am sure they would never give their real name or
>address as they would be a candidate for court proceeding's for
>libel and slander.
"There are a number of possible defenses against libel and slander, but the only
one which is an absolute defense is truth. If the statement is true, it cannot
be considered libel or slander."
So, there you have it. If your name is not Gary Bergman and you did not inquire
about child porn on the internet, sue me. You don't need to know who I am. A
court order works just fine. But of course... we both know that I'm telling
the truth, don't we, Gary?
Now, get on back to talking about how wonderful the Jehovah's Witnesses are and
how you're looking forward to living forever in their imaginary paradise. And
leave the children alone...
curtjester1
>
> >> Why would he care about Traci Lord getting it in the pooper if he's gay?
>
> >> - Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >Watch out for predators on the net, that would like nothing more
> >than abuse and besmirch a name without any backing.
>
> As I've already pointed out, whomever made that post about wanting a Traci Lord
> DVD has the same IP address as you do, Gary. Either you entered the inquiry
> regarding the Traci DVD or someone else used your computer and knew your
> passwords. Fat chance, right?
>
address? I work from a library computer. And you? I see your a fake
who creates a name and only has a month just chasing in this group.
Of course reading isn't your strong suit either as I get the same
problems as millions on the net, hackers who have nothing better to do
than be juvenile delinquents. So the chance is not highly likely and
you being a troll/JD highly. Here's the poster who came to my site
with their hacking prob:
encina1968] I've been hacked From: encin...@yahoogroups.com on
behalf of Janice Raymond (janandc...@yahoo.com)
Sent: Tue 1/12/10 12:49 PM
To: er...@globaltrav.com; jl...@hotmail.com; mei...@surewest.net;
jennife...@hotmail.com; jer...@yahoo.com; kipn...@earthlink.net;
kurtel...@yahoo.com; mads...@fsgrassvalley.com;
mha...@accessbee.com; mustar...@hotmail.com;
noelle...@hotmail.com; qdtho...@juno.com; r.ju...@att.net;
ro...@sacbeemail.com; sarah_...@hotmail.com; tae...@aol.com;
rob...@winnfamily.org; j.c.cr...@att.net;
encin...@yahoogroups.com; harlan lau (harla...@hotmail.com)
Dear friends and family,
Someone has hacked my email account and sent out an email
advertisement in which I would NEVER be a party to. Viagra sales to
be exact. Please forgive any inconvenience that this may have
caused. I have cancelled my existing email account and will be
establishing a new address.
Sincerely,
Janice Raymond
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:53:41 -0800
From: janandc...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Hacking
To: curtj...@hotmail.com
Thanks CJ. What a world we live in, huh?
--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Harry Dunn <curtj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Harry Dunn <curtj...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Hacking
To: janandc...@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 12:01 PM
Hi, Jan...pasting this about what I tried to send to the group. Hope
it helps. CJ
I recently have been as well. I go to newsgroups and I feel anyone
that wants to oppose my views can and has done this. One was saying I
ordered a porn video through ebay...and there were others. I also
have looked up my google groups account and have found many things
that are associated with my surfing through them that are on record
and many, many, I have not even gone to or were part of my doing's. I
have found a way to get another email name and account, and well, it
shouldn't come to that, for sure.
> >I am sure they would never give their real name or
> >address as they would be a candidate for court proceeding's for
> >libel and slander.
>
> "There are a number of possible defenses against libel and slander, but the only
> one which is an absolute defense is truth. If the statement is true, it cannot
> be considered libel or slander."
>
Too bad a lie and one perpetrated by a group fraud wouldn't look good
would it?
> So, there you have it. If your name is not Gary Bergman and you did not inquire
> about child porn on the internet, sue me. You don't need to know who I am. A
> court order works just fine. But of course... we both know that I'm telling
> the truth, don't we, Gary?
>
Sue an idiot troll who is too cowardly to put up his own name and
address?
> Now, get on back to talking about how wonderful the Jehovah's Witnesses are and
> how you're looking forward to living forever in their imaginary paradise. And
> leave the children alone...- Hide quoted text -
>
If hacking is your true profession, I suggest getting a minimum wage
job. Oh, a paradise without liars and cowards...? Rev. 21:8. I'd
like to see that place where housing and food are promised without
anyone else owning it, and no more pain, war, and plenty of worthwhile
stuff to do without criminal behavior. I think the children will be
much freer than the ones born out of the Garden of Eden. Nakedness
won't be a problem for the faithful. Well, too bad some won't get a
dvd or be able to see that.....:).
CJ
Florence B. Nitengail
Of course it doesn't fit reason does it? How many times do people
complain about getting hacked into for their ID's and user names?
It's a huge complaint in the internet.
:: Or someone posts using your name, address and phone number. It happened
to me right here on this NG by a few Jehovah's Witnesses. That doesn't say
for them as a group does it?
Watch out for predators on the net,
that would like nothing more than abuse and besmirch a name without
any backing.
:: Yep! A few Jehovah's Witnesses did it to me and my husband. But we know
that they have the highest rate if mental illness of all the Orgs studied.
I am sure they would never give their real name or
address as they would be a candidate for court proceeding's for libel
and slander.
:: Only if they have something worth suing them for...........
CJ
Urundai Kozhambu
curtjester1 says...
>
>
>From: Harry Dunn <curtj...@hotmail.com>
Your name is not Harry Dunn, 'CJ.' Your name is Gary Bergman.
>> So, there you have it. If your name is not Gary Bergman and you
>> did not inquire about child porn on the internet, sue me. You
>> don't need to know who I am. A court order works just fine.
>> But of course... we both know that I'm telling the truth, don't
>> we, Gary?
>>
>Sue an idiot troll who is too cowardly to put up his own name and
>address?
Why are you lying about your name, Gary? You're not Harry Dunn.
Did you forget that when you posted as GWB...@webtv.net that you used the
initials, CJ?
Did you forget that when you posted as CurtJ...@webtv.net that you used the
name, Gary?
Did you forget that when you wrote to the Huffington Post about Amy Mickelson
that you used your real name, Gary Bergman, with your address of
curtj...@hotmail.com?
Did you forget that you used your real name, Gary Bergman, when you joined Digg
as curtjester1?
You're such a liar, Gary.
>> Now, get on back to talking about how wonderful the Jehovah's
>> Witnesses are and how you're looking forward to living forever
>> in their imaginary paradise. And leave the children alone...
>>
>I'd like to see that place where housing and food are promised
>without anyone else owning it, and no more pain, war, and plenty
>of worthwhile stuff to do without criminal behavior. I think the
>children will be much freer than the ones born out of the Garden
>of Eden. Nakedness won't be a problem for the faithful. Well,
>too bad some won't get a dvd or be able to see that.....:).
So, you think that it's not going to be criminal behavior in the Jehovah's
Witness paradise to molest little naked children?
"I'm looking for Traci Lords dvds where she gets it in the pooper"
http://www.youtube.com/user/curtjester1
"About Me: im gay hey what can i say i like guys so it you dont like it suck ont
curtjester1
wrote:
> "curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ecb32c11-dce3-4855...@v7g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Of course it doesn't fit reason does it? How many times do people
> complain about getting hacked into for their ID's and user names?
> It's a huge complaint in the internet.
>
> :: Or someone posts using your name, address and phone number. It happened
> to me right here on this NG by a few Jehovah's Witnesses. That doesn't say
> for them as a group does it?
>
criminal mindset could even be behind it. I haven't met any JW's in
this NG except for maybe an Obves, so I would say your looking from a
wrong group to blame. And why would you take the side of a hacker
when you have no idea if he was telling the truth about someone or
not? Hmmmm?
> Watch out for predators on the net,
> that would like nothing more than abuse and besmirch a name without
> any backing.
>
> :: Yep! A few Jehovah's Witnesses did it to me and my husband. But we know
> that they have the highest rate if mental illness of all the Orgs studied.
>
Yet you side with the predators here that are hacking or using hacked
information for trying to slander people?
> I am sure they would never give their real name or
> address as they would be a candidate for court proceeding's for libel
> and slander.
>
> :: Only if they have something worth suing them for...........
>
They don't give it up, because they would be sued. They're either
hackers or people who search out hackers. They will never give there
name and that's being done here by people that don't have a history
here and obviously have other names and are looking to make a scene.
They're probably satanists, evolutionists, or belong to some other
religon. There's no other logical choice.
CJ
> CJ
Urundai Kozhambu
curtjester1 says...
>
>And why would you take the side of a hacker when you have no
>idea if he was telling the truth about someone or not? Hmmmm?
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.isaak/2.4.20.21.22/mb.ashx
Florence B. Nitengail
On Jan 15, 9:29 pm, "Florence B. Nitengail" <n...@nospamforme.net>
wrote:
> "curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ecb32c11-dce3-4855...@v7g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Of course it doesn't fit reason does it? How many times do people
> complain about getting hacked into for their ID's and user names?
> It's a huge complaint in the internet.
>
> :: Or someone posts using your name, address and phone number. It happened
> to me right here on this NG by a few Jehovah's Witnesses. That doesn't say
> for them as a group does it?
It wouldn't say much for that person for sure.
> Well it was done by JWs. So it doesn't say much for an all-clean Org does
> it?
Only a hacker with a
criminal mindset could even be behind it.
> It was no hacker who was doing it, but several JWs in good standing
> involved together.
I haven't met any JW's in
this NG except for maybe an Obves, so I would say your looking from a
wrong group to blame.
> You haven't been here long enough to know who the JWs are. As a group they
> are no better or worse than any other Org out there. I've been on this NG
> since 1996.
And why would you take the side of a hacker
when you have no idea if he was telling the truth about someone or
not? Hmmmm?
> What hacker? I have no clue who posted what about you, or where they got
> it from.
> Watch out for predators on the net,
> that would like nothing more than abuse and besmirch a name without
> any backing.
I know, the JWs have done it to me. False accusations. Lies. Slander.
Threats to have my pets poisoned and my throat slit. You are aware aren't
you, that JWs as an org contain more people suffering form mental illnesses
than any other org?
>
> :: Yep! A few Jehovah's Witnesses did it to me and my husband. But we know
> that they have the highest rate if mental illness of all the Orgs studied.
Yet you side with the predators here that are hacking or using hacked
information for trying to slander people?
What predators? What hackers? I agreed with YOU that the JWs will slander
people, spread lies about them.... one even told me he would destroy my
family and my marriage. Why would I side with such malicious vicious
mentally ill people?
> I am sure they would never give their real name or
> address as they would be a candidate for court proceeding's for libel
> and slander.
>
> :: Only if they have something worth suing them for...........
>
They don't give it up, because they would be sued. They're either
hackers or people who search out hackers. They will never give there
name and that's being done here by people that don't have a history
here and obviously have other names and are looking to make a scene.
They're probably satanists, evolutionists, or belong to some other
religon. There's no other logical choice.
> Why are you accusing any particular group? Those who believe in evolution
> couldn't care less if you were gay or not. Only a true believer like a JW
> would give a crap. Open your eyes and you will see the TRUTH.
Parish *~
>
> He would make a great Jehovah's Witness elder, yes?
>
Or a good catholic priest.
MATTHEW 10:23 (NIV)
"When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I TELL YOU THE
TRUTH, YOU WILL NOT FINISH GOING THROUGH THE CITIES OF ISRAEL BEFORE
THE SON OF MAN COMES."
Looks like that wasn't the truth as that was 2000 yrs ago and Jesus was a
no-show.
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