Elliott A Green
The most striking proof that the Arab anti-Israel cause is a common meeting
ground for both Nazis and Communists --and that the Arabs welcomed
supporters of both ilks-- lies in the friendship of Carlos, the notorious
master terrorist who served the PLO, with Fran*ois Genoud, an old Nazi, one
of the leading Nazis in pre-War Switzerland, later a financier who provided
funds for Habash's faction of the PLO.
"Carlos" (his nom de guerre) was what is called a "red diaper baby." His
fabulously rich father, a Venezuelan lawyer and owner of estates, gave
"Carlos" the name Ilich, Lenin's patronymic, as his given name. His great
wealth notwithstanding, the father was a devoted Communist. Young Ilich
Ramirez Sanchez grew up a stranger to manual labor. When he left school in
1966 at age 17, he traveled in the Caribbean, later arriving in Cuba to take
terrorist training from a Soviet KGB instructor. The next year he showed up
at the Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow, set up by the Soviet Communists
to train revolutionary cadres for the "Third World." Ilich fell in with Arab
schoolmates there, while receiving Soviet indoctrination, as well as
generous remittances from his father. By 1970 he was active in Habash's
PFLP, taking part in the Black September battles in Jordan. He later went to
live in London with his mother, separated from his father and receiving a
large monthly allowance from him. Carlos lived in London (and Paris) as a
playboy, indulging himself in luxuries and love affairs like many another
wealthy, young Latin American in Europe. Meanwhile, he was an incognito
agent for the PFLP, taking part in various acts of terrorist murder. By the
end of 1973, this red diaper child of a rich Communist had become the chief
PFLP terrorist in Europe.1
The Nazi-Arab-Communist triangle bears contemporary significance since it
undermines Arab political claims against Israel, and in particular the claim
of Arab moral innocence. Of course, because Arab nationalist support for
Hitler and the Nazis was notorious before and during World War II, Western
and Communist supporters of the Arab cause against Israel took pains to deny
any such Arab-Nazi collaboration, and in particular to deny any Arab role in
the Holocaust.
Where it was not denied explicitly, it was overlooked or minimized or denied
by implication. Various accounts of Amin el-Husseini, the main Arab leader
in the British Palestine Mandate (the Jewish National Home) acknowledge that
he "spent most of World War II (1939-1945) in Germany" (Encyclopedia
Britannica, 1985 ed), or that "he negotiated with Germany" (Dictionary of
World History, 1973). A PLO spokesman, Philip Mattar, allows that
el-Husseini "recruited Muslims to fight the Communists in Croatia, Bosnia,
and Serbia."2 He does not tell us that el-Husseini recruited them into a
Muslim S.S. division and that their atrocities were many. These and other
accounts avoid the fact that el-Husseini wholeheartedly identified with the
Nazi war effort and was a fervent supporter of the mass murder of Jews,
advocating that Jewish children be sent to Poland where they would be "under
active supervision," to use his euphemism for the death camps.3
One of the Nazis who met Haj Amin el-Husseini in the years of Nazi triumphs
was one Fran*ois Genoud, an early admirer of Hitler and a founder and
militant of the pre-war Swiss Nazi party, the National Front. He met
Husseini in 1936 in the Middle East and once again in Berlin in 1943, while
he was an agent of the Abwehr (German intelligence agency) and while
Husseini, the British-appointed Mufti of Jerusalem, was urging on the
Holocaust and recruiting Arabs and other Muslims into the Nazi service.
Genoud met him several times in Beirut after the war, until the Mufti died
in 1974. Meanwhile, unrepentant, veteran Nazi Genoud got a management
position with the Red Cross in Brussels4 and later (1958) opened a bank in
Geneva called the Banque Commerciale Arabe (backed by Syrian funds). Through
his connections in Cairo, a post-war sanctuary for sundry Nazi war
criminals, he met leaders of the Algerian FLN and was later invited to run a
bank in newly independent Algeria, the Banque Populaire Arabe. In another
role, he participated in organizing and/or financing the defense of Eichmann
in Israel, of Klaus Barbie in France, and of PLO terrorists in Europe. He
counted among his friends Wadi Haddad and Ali Hassan Salameh, PLO master
terrorists who accomplished airliner hijackings and other high-profile
terrorist acts. Genoud claimed in recent years that what Hitler did "was
proper and in support of peace."5 Carlos met Genoud in the 1970s through
mutual friends in the Habash gang, known as the Popular Front for the
Liberation of Palestine. This was a Marxist faction of the PLO, which Habash
built out of a pan-Arab outfit he led called the Arab Nationalist Movement.
Genoud related with satisfaction: "He [Carlos] knew my past. I never hid it.
I was always accepted."6 As he described the struggle (the Kampf) of his
younger friend, Carlos, the battle was not only "for an Arab Palestine." The
struggle was worldwide; Arab terrorism "is actually a world war against
Zionism... Zionism is world-wide..."7 Carlos agreed with Genoud that they
shared a common kampf. He wrote to Genoud from jail in France: "In this
period of revolutionary ebb, men of your vision and faith in Victory are
more necessary than ever" (English in original).8 This should provide food
for thought for those who think that the Arab struggle is only about a
"home" for those Arabs called "Palestinians."
If we add the Carlos-Genoud story to our knowledge that many German Nazi
veterans, including war criminals, found refuge in Arab countries,
particularly Egypt and Syria, we should have enough evidence to demonstrate
that veteran Nazis see the Arab cause as a continuation of their own
endeavors, as well as an ex post facto vindication or justification for
them. We might paraphrase Clausewitz and call it a continuation of the
Holocaust by other hands. Be that as it may, after the rise of the State of
Israel, throughout the 1950s and into the Sixties, supporters of the Arab
cause made strenuous efforts to reject any association of themselves with
pro-Nazi sympathies, as well as to becloud the fact that their cause was
supported by Nazis too or that the Arabs themselves had supported the Nazis
during the Holocaust. For instance, an official of a US organization caring
for Palestinian Arab refugees argued that whereas Christianity might have
harshly persecuted Jews over the centuries, the Arabs were innocent, having
treated Jews well and, of course, they had nothing to do with the Holocaust
which was a purely European undertaking. Emerging from this claim was the
implication that the Jews were ungrateful for the good and kind treatment
they had received at Arab hands.
Yet, this endeavor was made more difficult since the Arabs themselves,
including the "Leftists" among them (essentially those Arab factions
supported by the Soviet Union and other Communists) continued to express
admiration and sympathy for the Nazis. For instance, Gamal Abdel-Nasser told
a German neo-Nazi editor in 1964: "Our sympathies in the Second World War
were on the German side."9
Nevertheless, rather than discrediting the Arabs, such remarks were seen as
indications that the Arabs needed guidance in presenting their image to
world public opinion. Thus, the Arabs' Western and Communist friends
continued to try to protect them from their indiscretions, as one might
expect. These efforts seem to have succeeded. Indeed, volunteers from the
German Neo-Nazi gang, the Wehrsportgruppe Hoffmann, took part in fighting
Israel in Lebanon in behalf of the PLO. Yet a PLO representative provided a
German journalist in Beirut with a unique and original anti-fascist
historical perspective:
"He was particularly happy to receive visitors and guests from Germany.
'Just as you Germans freed yourselves from Hitler, we Palestinians intend
one day to free ourselves from the Fascist Begin.'"10
When the journalist reported these remarks to the Communist East German
ambassador in Beirut, the diplomat
"expressed his profound satisfaction.
'It seems that in the long run our efforts to change the image the Arabs
have of Germany are paying off after all.' And the representative of East
Berlin laughed."11
Nevertheless, the natural affinities between Nazis and PLO militants brought
the two together, just as Amin el-Husseini, the British-appointed Mufti of
Jerusalem, found his way to Berlin and the Fuehrer during WW2. And these
affinities paved the way for leftist and Communist partisans of the PLO's
anti-Israel cause, often in the name of "Third World Liberation," to find
their way to old Nazis, as we have seen in Carlos' case. Another instance is
the French lawyer, Jacques Vergs, an associate of Genoud, a veteran
Communist and supporter of the PLO and the Algerian FLN, and the defense
attorney for Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie.12
All this was of course long preceded by the Nazi-Soviet Pact of 1939,
followed by the German-Soviet invasion of Poland. About this time, the
Soviet daily Izvestiya saw fit to evaluate Nazi ideology as "a matter of
taste" (November 9, 1939). But the Nazi-Soviet Pact was too big to be easily
forgotten. Thus it has made its way into some of the history books.
Yet very little remembered is another strikingly relevant joint effort of
Nazis and Communists. This was the support that Communists showed for Nazi
arguments in the late 1920s and early 1930s. Communists then sympathetically
described Germany as a victim of Western imperialism. German Communists did
it of course, but so did the French CP leader, Maurice Thorez, in a speech
in Berlin just two weeks before Hitler's rise to power. His words of
sympathy for Germany in January, 1933, should be compared with what the
worldwide Left has been saying for many years on behalf of Arabs and
"Palestinians." Thorez denounced the "loathesome yoke with which France was
crushing the German people" and declared himself
"in favor of the immediate evacuation of the Saar, in favor of a free choice
for the people of Alsace-Lorraine, up to and including separation from
France, in favor of the right of all German-speaking peoples to freely
unite."13
The French historian Georges Goriely explained that the German Communists
displayed
"a nationalism which sometimes surpassed that of the Nazis. Indeed,
according to the Comintern, the Treaty of Versailles had supposedly reduced
Germany to the status of a colony of international capitalism. Its desire
for national resurgence, especially vis--vis France, was likened to an
anti-imperialist struggle."14
It is needless to elaborate on the similarities with post-1948, pro-Arab,
pro-PLO propaganda. More recently, Marxist-Leninist anti-imperialist
rhetoric has been extended beyond supposedly this-worldly Arab nationalism.
Comrade "Carlos," whose ravings at his recent trial in France merely added
color to confirm his common ground with Genoud, spread his revolutionary
abrazo over the fanatic Islamist movements (in his letter to Genoud).
"Our materialistic conception of the World did not prevent us from seen [=
seeing; error in Carlos' original], years ago, that a new kind of militant,
the Islamic Revolutionist has joined the vanguard of Revolution, of which he
now is the spear-head.
"This new state of affairs was not accepted by most fellow revolutionaries
at the time, out of dogmatism."15
Genoud died in June 1996 and Carlos was convicted of murder in a French
court in December 1997. However, "the Islamic Revolutionist" is now leaving
his own trail of blood along the track trod by Hitler and Husseini. Can the
Communist Left today be seen as other than a partner in the mortal threats
hanging over humanity and civilization?
NOTES
1. Christopher Dobson and Ronald Payne, The Carlos Complex (New York, 1977),
pp 30-66. Le Monde, 13 December 1997.
2. Philip Mattar, "The Mufti of Jerusalem and the Politics of Palestine,"
Middle East Journal vol. 42 (Spring 1988); p. 237.
3. Bartley Crum, Behind the Silken Curtain, New York, 1947; 111-12. Lukasz
Hirszowicz, The Third Reich and the Arab East, London, 1966; 262-63, 312-13;
Daniel Carpi, "The Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin el-Husseini, and His Diplomatic
Activity during World War II (October 1941-July 1943)," Studies in Zionism,
No. 7, Spring 1983; pp. 130-31. Joseph Schechtman, The Mufti and the Fuehrer
(New York, 1965); pp. 154-58. Also see E.A. Green, "Arabs and Nazis -- Can
It Be True?" Midstream (October 1994).
4, Le Monde, June 2-3, 1996.
5. L'Express, January 25, 1996, p 16
6. Tribune de Genve, August 18, 1994; quoted in L'Express, January 25, 1996,
p 17.
7. Ibid.
8. L'Express, January 25, 1996; p 18.
9. I.F. Stone's Weekly, June 1, 1964, quoted from Deutsche National Zeitung
und Soldaten Zeitung, May 1, 1964. I.F. Stone was known as a leftist critic
of Israel.
10. Peter Scholl-Latour, Adventures in the East (New York: Bantam, 1988), p
163.
11. Ibid.
12. Le Point, 4 May 1987.
13. Le Monde, January 13, 1985, p 2.
14. Ibid.
15. L'Express, January 25, 1996; p. 18. Original in English.
1. Christopher Dobson and Ronald Payne, The Carlos Complex (New York, 1977),
pp 30-66. Le Monde, 13 December 1997.
2. Philip Mattar, "The Mufti of Jerusalem and the Politics of Palestine,"
Middle East Journal vol. 42 (Spring 1988); p. 237.
3. Bartley Crum, Behind the Silken Curtain, New York, 1947; 111-12. Lukasz
Hirszowicz, The Third Reich and the Arab East, London, 1966; 262-63, 312-13;
Daniel Carpi, "The Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin el-Husseini, and His Diplomatic
Activity during World War II (October 1941-July 1943)," Studies in Zionism,
No. 7, Spring 1983; pp. 130-31. Joseph Schechtman, The Mufti and the Fuehrer
(New York, 1965); pp. 154-58. Also see E.A. Green, "Arabs and Nazis -- Can
It Be True?" Midstream (October 1994).
4. Le Monde, June 2-3, 1996.
5. L'Express, January 25, 1996, p 16
6. Tribune de Genve, August 18, 1994; quoted in L'Express, January 25, 1996,
p 17.
7. Ibid.
8. L'Express, January 25, 1996; p 18.
9. I.F. Stone's Weekly, June 1, 1964, quoted from Deutsche National Zeitung
und Soldaten Zeitung, May 1, 1964. I.F. Stone was known as a leftist critic
of Israel.
10. Peter Scholl-Latour, Adventures in the East (New York: Bantam, 1988),
p163.
11. Ibid.
12. Le Point, 4 May 1987.
13. Le Monde, January 13, 1985, p 2.
14. Ibid.
15. L'Express, January 25, 1996; p. 18. Original in English
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WHY I EMBRACED ISLAM
Finding solace in the Garden of Peace by Suleyman Ahmad
I am an American journalist and author. In 1997, aged 49, after more than 30
years of research study, and life experience, I came into Islam. This
decision reflected many issues in my life.
I grew up in an environment that would be extremely strange for most
Americans. My father was Jewish; my mother was the daughter of a famous
Protestant fundamental minister. My father was a religious student, or
Yeshiva-bocher, as a youth. My mother was raised in an atmosphere of
intensive Bible reading, and she knew the Old and New Testaments very well.
In Sarajevo, I did not find myself to be a tourist. I had direct encounters
with Muslim believers and scholars
Both my parents faith was tested by the events of the 1930s. My mother
abandoned Christianity in protest against the Nazi attacks on the Jews, who
she had been raised to view as the 'original People of God.' Later, she
converted to Judaism.
Both my parents spent a long period under the influence of the Communist
Party, even as they continued to believe in the Jewish faith. That was the
tragic paradox of their lives; disappointed by the failures of their born
religions. However, while they wavered between liberal-radicalism and God,
they were never extreme about Zionism.
Indeed, I always felt pain at the conflict in the Middle East, and always
yearned for justice and friendship between Israelis and Arabs.
I was an extreme radical leftist as a youth. However, I also wrote poetry,
and even though discouraged from it by my parents confusion and bitterness
about religion, I believed in God. I tried to sort these matters out.
I believe the most important contributions that will be made by Islam in
America involve racial justice and public morality
My first search for the truth led me to the Catholic church. Although I did
not convert, I was deeply impressed by Catholic mystical literature.
Very early on, I learned that behind the glorious works of the Spanish
Catholic mystics there was the history of Islam in Spain, and that a
beautiful Islamic inspiration had survived in that tradition. I eventually
travelled to Spain repeatedly, searching out the traces of the long Islamic
residence in the Iberian peninsula. As a writer, I researched this
phenomenon over many years. I studied the troubadour poets, who showed a
deep Islamic influence.
Beginning in 1979, I studied Kabbalah, the tradition of Jewish mysticism.
There too, I found an immense Islamic reflection, filtered through Judaism.
However, the decisive event in my journey to Islam came in 1990 when I began
travelling to the Balkans as a journalist. I visited Sarajevo, and reported
on the Bosnian war.
In Sarajevo, I discovered some amazing things. I found an outpost of Islam
in Europe, in an environment where I did not feel I was a tourist, where I
could have simple and direct encounters with Muslim believers and scholars.
I found beautiful poetry and music that expressed the values of Islamic
grace and love.
I had discovered "the garden of the old Imam," to quote a line from a famous
Bosnian song- the remnant of the great period of Ottoman rule in the
Balkans, and its tremendous contributions to Islamic civilization.
I read passages from the Quran and visited Islamic monuments on my trips to
the Balkans. I kept coming back to the garden, and finally I entered it.
Since accepting Islam, I have proceeded carefully in informing my friends,
neighbours, co-workers, and others. I do not want to provoke conflict or
controversy, and I do not want this experience to be seen as something
superficial or faddish. It isn't about me, it's about Allah. I want to
proceed in a way that will do the most for the welfare of the Ummah and for
better relations between all believers in la ilaha illallah.
So far, I have had no problems aside from occasional crude remarks. If
anything, people in my newsroom seem pleased to have someone around who can
report with greater accuracy about issues. Others are surprised but
respectful; they seem to understand this is not about politics or
publicity-seeking, but reflects a long personal quest.
I think also, to be totally honest, that non-Muslims see me as someone
deeply affected by my experience in the Balkans, so that this choice makes
some sense in that context.
However, I am quick to make clear that I am not a Muslim for political or
humanitarian reasons, but because the message of Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) is
the clearest evidence of the wishes of Allah.
As I stated at the beginning, I see much of what is positive in Judaism and
Christianity today as a reflection of Islamic influence.
I mentioned Spanish Catholicism. There is a reason Spanish Catholics feel
their faith more intensely than other Catholics, and that is because of the
Islamic legacy in their culture. The Crusades and the Inquisition did not
extinguish this light, however dimmed it may seem to some.
I truly believe that without the tolerance of the Arab rulers in Spain, and,
particularly, the generous protection extended by the Ottoman caliphs,
Judaism might have disappeared from the world. Certainly, Jewish religious
historians today admit that Judaism today would be very different without
the positive input derived from living in a Muslim environment.
The aspect of Islam that most impressed me is the emphasis on inner peace
afforded by submission to the will of Allah. I saw this in the politeness,
the courtesy, the simplicity and sincerity (ikhlas) of Bosnian Muslims who
had been through the worst torments, yet never gave up their basic serenity.
That serenity has made my life easier. Whenever I feel troubled and tested
by daily life, or anxious and fearful about the future, or frustrated in my
literary ambitions, my mind goes automatically, now, to remembrance of the
Muslims I know in Bosnia, to the calm and unity of congregational prayers,
and, above all, to the clean and soothing words of the Quran.
My only problem has been in overcoming my fears about conflict with Jews and
Christians. I seek conciliation-though not concessions to secularism.
I believe the most important contributions that will be made by Islam in
America involve racial justice and public morality. We all recognize the
truth of Brother Malcolm X's declaration that the solution to America's
racial problem is Islam. I think that Islam also offers the solution to
America's moral problem.
Before I became a Muslim, I was impressed by the values of Muslims I knew in
America and the moral strength of the Balkan Muslims in the face of their
ordeal. Today, I am, I must say, somewhat sad to find that the Ummah is so
profoundly divided, and to see how Muslims quarrel with each other. I am
also concerned by the failure of Muslims to do more for the victims of
Orthodox Christian imperialism in the Balkans. Islam has brought great peace
and beauty to my life. As I have told others, the remainder of my years will
be dedicated to service of Allah. I have personally pledged to do all I can
to help rebuild the mosque of Bosnia and Kosova.
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The ex-half jew reported two points worth taking a look at:
first:
"I believe the most important contributions that will be made by Islam in
America involve racial justice and public morality"
second:
"I truly believe that without the tolerance of the Arab rulers in Spain,
and,particularly, the generous protection extended by the Ottoman caliphs,
Judaism might have disappeared from the world. Certainly, Jewish religious
historians today admit that Judaism today would be very different without
the positive input derived from living in a Muslim environment."
Don't try to demonize Islam by trying to paint it with a nazi color, IT
WON'T WORK.
How about this one : Mark , Jewish, Communism and decades of Humanity
sufferings including millions of death.
Why People Accept Islam [3/3]
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CONCLUSION: FOLLOW-UP The factors leading to conversion are basically the same the world over. They are not limited to time periods, but can be found from the earliest of times until the present. Those involved in propagating the religion and inviting others to Islam, must familiarize themselves with these and other factors in order to develop the correct strategies to deal with them. Furthermore, Islamic organizations need to keep more accurate information concerning conversion so that researchers can analyze the material and benefit those in the field. Most organizations internationally do not have proper records. Some only have names and while others have little more than that. Follow-up programs cannot be effectively implemented without proper records. Perhaps the greatest problem facing converts is the lack of follow-up. In the Prophet’s time, converts were integrated into the Muslim community and way of life with the full support of the community. Today, converts are congratulated and left to fend for themselves. As a result, when many are faced with difficulties, they revert to their former faiths, if they do not find support from the Muslim community. In the West, there is a big need for institutions and Muslim social workers to cater to the needs of the new converts. Many who accept Islam in the prisons end up in their destructive life-styles and back in prison like their non-Muslim counterparts. Although their numbers are fewer, they are too many for the community to ignore. The other major problem facing convert Muslims, especially in the West, is that without a Muslim community to support their families, their children often leave Islam by the time they graduate from high school. Consequently, among the da’wah strategies necessary is the development of Muslim schools to preserve the identity of Muslim children of the converts. Those children did not choose Islam, and they lack strong cultural ties to Muslim culture. As a result, every decade or two, a new wave of Westerners convert and during the same period, most of their children leave Islam. Those children sometimes go on to become major stars in sports like Shaquille O’Neal (Basketball), or Rocket Raghib (American Football), who have no allegiance to Islam what so ever. |
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> This ex-half-jewish person disagree with you
Since satan has 1 & 1/2 billion followers in islam and probably at least
that many in the rest of the world population, do you think he can ever
be beaten?
All anyone with half a brain needs to do to realize that islam is just
an evil cult is read the queeran and hadiths. mohammad (MPSUHH) (MAY
PIGS SHIT UPON HIS HEAD) was a murdering, thieving, raping, lying, child
molesting Bastard.
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> As a result, every decade or two, a new wave of Westerners convert and
> during the same period, most of their children leave Islam. Those
> children sometimes go on to become major stars in sports like Shaquille
> O’Neal (Basketball), or Rocket Raghib (American Football), who have no
> allegiance to Islam what so ever.
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> Why People Accept Islam [3/3]
All anyone with half a brain needs to do to realize that islam is just
an evil cult is read the queeran and hadiths. mohammad (MPSUHH) (MAY
PIGS SHIT UPON HIS HEAD) was a murdering, thieving, raping, lying, child
molesting Bastard.
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