Re: Islam, the religion of love and peace?
Shoot muslims in the face
> Islam, the religion of love and peace?
> The problem is the muslims want we non muslims dead as can been seen
> from this video of some leading muslim mud living in England.
> This video link should be spread around to as many people as possible
> so there is some realization of the true nature of islam and what we
> are up against.
> The muslim mud man in the video is only saying what the koran tells
> muslims to do.
> WW3 has started.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4
Dirty shitskin moslem scum.
moslem cartoon character muhammad was a child molester and goat fucker
Kope
Anonymous Infidel - Scares away the primitives with fire
http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/noble/nobe047.htm
http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/noble/nobe009.htm
moi
nationally is bad for the Americans and the countries that actively and
passively took part in the coalition of the willing
no matter what any country in this gang does it backfires
it's almost as if they're all cursed
is it because they're all dependent on the dollar?
news reports in europe (not including the UK) are now openly claiming that
the US economy is expected to slow down next year (next years is only a
month away!)
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WJ20K
So what does that make Jews and Christians?
Genocidal thieving maniacs?
Deuteronomy 20:16-18 - Jews being commanded by their god to kill
everyone in sight;
Deuteronomy 6:10-12: Jews being commanded by their god to steal
everything in sight from those whom they just killed
[WJ20K]
Ian MacLure
news:1165436574....@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
> Shoot muslims in the face wrote:
>> Mastic wrote:
>> > Islam, the religion of love and peace?
>> > The problem is the muslims want we non muslims dead as can been seen
>> > from this video of some leading muslim mud living in England.
>> > This video link should be spread around to as many people as possible
>> > so there is some realization of the true nature of islam and what we
>> > are up against.
>> > The muslim mud man in the video is only saying what the koran tells
>> > muslims to do.
>> > WW3 has started.
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4
>>
>> Dirty shitskin moslem scum.
>>
>> moslem cartoon character muhammad was a child molester and goat fucker
By present day standards the charge of child molestation is
apparently meritted.
> So what does that make Jews and Christians?
> Genocidal thieving maniacs?
Nope. We've reformed. Muslims on the other hand....
> Deuteronomy 20:16-18 - Jews being commanded by their god to kill
> everyone in sight;
What you fail to understand is that the cited passage is history
not a prescription for current day behavio(u)r as the Koran is
insisted to be.
> Deuteronomy 6:10-12: Jews being commanded by their god to steal
> everything in sight from those whom they just killed
Again ancient history.
Were one an Amalekite or a member of The Host of Midian one
might have cause for alarm. Otherwise not so much.
IBM
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1165436574....@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Shoot muslims in the face wrote:
> >> Mastic wrote:
> >> > Islam, the religion of love and peace?
> >> > The problem is the muslims want we non muslims dead as can been seen
> >> > from this video of some leading muslim mud living in England.
> >> > This video link should be spread around to as many people as possible
> >> > so there is some realization of the true nature of islam and what we
> >> > are up against.
> >> > The muslim mud man in the video is only saying what the koran tells
> >> > muslims to do.
> >> > WW3 has started.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4
> >>
> >> Dirty shitskin moslem scum.
> >>
> >> moslem cartoon character muhammad was a child molester and goat fucker
>
> By present day standards the charge of child molestation is
> apparently meritted.
>
Chrsitians and Jews and others. Quite the imbecile hypocrite you are.
[WJ20K]
> > So what does that make Jews and Christians?
> > Genocidal thieving maniacs?
>
> Nope. We've reformed. Muslims on the other hand....
>
Another uneducated hypocritical statement by you. Jews and Chrisitians
reformed after killing millions in the past. So why is it OK for them
to go through 'grade' schoold but others have to skip over this
educational process for your own selfish satisfaction? Learn about
sociology before you comment and how societies go through cycles over
centuries.
[WJ20K]
> > Deuteronomy 20:16-18 - Jews being commanded by their god to kill
> > everyone in sight;
>
> What you fail to understand is that the cited passage is history
> not a prescription for current day behavio(u)r as the Koran is
> insisted to be.
>
Only as seen by bigots like yourself. Just like in Judaism and
Christianity there are plenty of hardline views. Others went through
the 'hardline' phase in the past, Islam is going through this phase
today. Once again you demonstrate absolute lack of historical
knowlegde in terms of how societes grow through cycles of development.
You deny others what you have gone through, as a good hypocrite would.
LOL!
[WJ20K]
> > Deuteronomy 6:10-12: Jews being commanded by their god to steal
> > everything in sight from those whom they just killed
>
> Again ancient history.
> Were one an Amalekite or a member of The Host of Midian one
> might have cause for alarm. Otherwise not so much.
As what is happening today will be ancient history in time. Where is
the problem? Oh, right YOU are affected and are upset. Well imagine
all the people who were affected and upset when Jews killed and stole
all over the place or when Chrisitians murdered millions in the name of
spreading 'peaceful' christianity. Ah, I forget, as a hypocrite you
want others to ignore this.
[WJ20K]
>
> IBM
Zeno
So (in summary) you are saying that what dead people did in the
history books is more relevant than present day al Qaeda, Hezbollah,
or the Iraqi self destructors?
WJ20K
Not at all. Hardliners of today do not see it as history repeating
itself in another society, in this case the Muslim one. If they did
they maybe would not repeat the mistakes of the past. But sadly humans
seldom learn from the mistakes of the past, it is a fact of human life
that this occurs, hence we are seeing what we are seeing today.
Look at the Jews if Israel for example. They also find "that what dead
people did in the history books is more relevant than present" day
matters, which after all is the basis of their claim on the area known
as Israel or Palestine. Their 'claim' goes back thousands of years and
they totally ignore intervening history and the changes it has brought
about. EVERYBODY does it. I just point out the hypocrites who
complain about specific groups doing it without pointing at themselves
as perpetrators too.
[WJ20K]
Ian MacLure
news:15lgn2lf5jimmraiu...@4ax.com:
[snip]
> So (in summary) you are saying that what dead people did in the
> history books is more relevant than present day al Qaeda, Hezbollah,
> or the Iraqi self destructors?
Paradoxically it would seem so.
IBM
Ian MacLure
news:1165474202.2...@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> Ian MacLure wrote:
>> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:1165436574....@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
[snip]
> Indeed as would be for many practicies of ancient times too among
> Chrsitians and Jews and others. Quite the imbecile hypocrite you are.
> [WJ20K]
I don't think the Church or Judaism approved of marriage
and intercourse before puberty. Its certainly not allowed
today. Muslims on the other hand....
>> > So what does that make Jews and Christians?
>> > Genocidal thieving maniacs?
>>
>> Nope. We've reformed. Muslims on the other hand....
>>
>
> Another uneducated hypocritical statement by you. Jews and Chrisitians
> reformed after killing millions in the past. So why is it OK for them
Well this is what happens when scular politics becomes intertwined
with religion.
> to go through 'grade' schoold but others have to skip over this
> educational process for your own selfish satisfaction? Learn about
> sociology before you comment and how societies go through cycles over
> centuries.
Problem is that in Islam religion and politics are one and the same.
This is not encouraging as regards dragging forward into the 17th
century let alone modern times.
[snip]
> Only as seen by bigots like yourself. Just like in Judaism and
> Christianity there are plenty of hardline views. Others went through
> the 'hardline' phase in the past, Islam is going through this phase
> today. Once again you demonstrate absolute lack of historical
> knowlegde in terms of how societes grow through cycles of development.
> You deny others what you have gone through, as a good hypocrite would.
> LOL!
Problem is Islam was born sclerotic and cannot change.
[snip]
> As what is happening today will be ancient history in time. Where is
> the problem? Oh, right YOU are affected and are upset. Well imagine
> all the people who were affected and upset when Jews killed and stole
> all over the place or when Chrisitians murdered millions in the name of
> spreading 'peaceful' christianity. Ah, I forget, as a hypocrite you
> want others to ignore this.
Well this is 2006 if Muslims want to behave like its 1456 we have
every right to object and hold them to current standards. If they
refuse to make nice stern measures may be necessary.
IBM
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1165436574....@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Shoot muslims in the face wrote:
> >> Mastic wrote:
> >> > Islam, the religion of love and peace?
> >> > The problem is the muslims want we non muslims dead as can been seen
> >> > from this video of some leading muslim mud living in England.
> >> > This video link should be spread around to as many people as possible
> >> > so there is some realization of the true nature of islam and what we
> >> > are up against.
> >> > The muslim mud man in the video is only saying what the koran tells
> >> > muslims to do.
> >> > WW3 has started.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4
> >>
> >> Dirty shitskin moslem scum.
> >>
> >> moslem cartoon character muhammad was a child molester and goat fucker
>
> By present day standards the charge of child molestation is
> apparently meritted.
>
> > So what does that make Jews and Christians?
> > Genocidal thieving maniacs?
>
> Nope. We've reformed. Muslims on the other hand....
are going through the same phase is Jews and Christians did you
hypocritical bigot. Why is it OK for Jews and Christians to go through
'grade school' but you insist that others skip over this for your own
satisfaction? Learn a bit about sociology and the phases societies go
through.
[WJ20K]
>
> > Deuteronomy 20:16-18 - Jews being commanded by their god to kill
> > everyone in sight;
>
> What you fail to understand is that the cited passage is history
> not a prescription for current day behavio(u)r as the Koran is
> insisted to be.
>
See above. Nor is it the case for the Koran except among those who
refuse to interpret religion in the context of today. There are plenty
but so was the case at the same time in other religions at the same
development cycle. Remember the millions of murders committed in the
name of Christianity. There are plenty of Christians and Jews who did
and even do just the same today. Stop being such a hypocrite.
[WJ20K]
> > Deuteronomy 6:10-12: Jews being commanded by their god to steal
> > everything in sight from those whom they just killed
>
> Again ancient history.
> Were one an Amalekite or a member of The Host of Midian one
> might have cause for alarm. Otherwise not so much.
>
In time also what is happening now among 'Muslim' counties will be
ancient history. Give it a bit of time. At the time Christians and
Jews were murdering and thieving in the name of their religion people
of that period were also complaining loudly about those religions.
You're quite the hypocrite or simply uneducated.
[WJ20K]
> IBM
Zeno
Is see that you disagree, but, you've not mentioned how al Qaeda,
Hezbollah, or the Iraqi self destructors are related to the past, as
is shown below.
Ian MacLure
news:fjjjn2lvq9brejcfs...@4ax.com:
[snip]
> Is see that you disagree, but, you've not mentioned how al Qaeda,
> Hezbollah, or the Iraqi self destructors are related to the past, as
> is shown below.
The groups you mention are problematic precisely because for
them their past is here and now and immutable. Things can never
change.
IBM
Ian MacLure
news:1165473429.4...@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com:
[snip]
> are going through the same phase is Jews and Christians did you
> hypocritical bigot. Why is it OK for Jews and Christians to go through
> 'grade school' but you insist that others skip over this for your own
> satisfaction? Learn a bit about sociology and the phases societies go
> through.
More fool you if thats what you've concluded.
There is nothing like a Reformation going on in Islam nor
can there be. Indeed you could almost say they went directly
to Counter-Reformation in a neanderthal fashion. Well no thats
a vile calumny on Neanderthals. The "reformers" are savages
whom the term medieval doesn't even begin to be appropriate.
IBM
WJ20K
If you look closely at the history of Christianity you will reach my
conclusion, is it guaranteed? Of course not, history NEVER repeats
itself 100% the same, but there are vast similarities. As for 'vile',
take a look at all the vile things done in the name of Christianity,
you really seem to know very little about the subject it appears.
[WJ20K]
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1165474202.2...@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Ian MacLure wrote:
> >> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> news:1165436574....@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Indeed as would be for many practicies of ancient times too among
> > Chrsitians and Jews and others. Quite the imbecile hypocrite you are.
> > [WJ20K]
>
> I don't think the Church or Judaism approved of marriage
> and intercourse before puberty. Its certainly not allowed
> today. Muslims on the other hand....
Nor is it acceptable to the vast majority of Muslims, just like
Chrisitians or Jews. You have child molestors all over, religion has
little to do with it but in any case look at all the Priests that are
caught molesting children all over Church areas each year. You are
clearly an uneducated/uninformed hypocrite.
[WJ20K]
>
> >> > So what does that make Jews and Christians?
> >> > Genocidal thieving maniacs?
> >>
> >> Nope. We've reformed. Muslims on the other hand....
> >>
> >
> > Another uneducated hypocritical statement by you. Jews and Chrisitians
> > reformed after killing millions in the past. So why is it OK for them
>
> Well this is what happens when scular politics becomes intertwined
> with religion.
>
> > to go through 'grade' schoold but others have to skip over this
> > educational process for your own selfish satisfaction? Learn about
> > sociology before you comment and how societies go through cycles over
> > centuries.
>
> Problem is that in Islam religion and politics are one and the same.
> This is not encouraging as regards dragging forward into the 17th
> century let alone modern times.
>
Just like the Church and Politics was once upon the time one and the
same, learn some history. As I already said, you are an uninformed
hypocrite.
[WJ20K]
> [snip]
>
> > Only as seen by bigots like yourself. Just like in Judaism and
> > Christianity there are plenty of hardline views. Others went through
> > the 'hardline' phase in the past, Islam is going through this phase
> > today. Once again you demonstrate absolute lack of historical
> > knowlegde in terms of how societes grow through cycles of development.
> > You deny others what you have gone through, as a good hypocrite would.
> > LOL!
>
> Problem is Islam was born sclerotic and cannot change.
>
Was once upon a time also said about Christianity and Judaism you
hypocrite. Learn your history.
[WJ20K]
> [snip]
>
> > As what is happening today will be ancient history in time. Where is
> > the problem? Oh, right YOU are affected and are upset. Well imagine
> > all the people who were affected and upset when Jews killed and stole
> > all over the place or when Chrisitians murdered millions in the name of
> > spreading 'peaceful' christianity. Ah, I forget, as a hypocrite you
> > want others to ignore this.
>
> Well this is 2006 if Muslims want to behave like its 1456 we have
> every right to object and hold them to current standards. If they
> refuse to make nice stern measures may be necessary.
>
> IBM
There you have it, at least now you accept that you are a hypocrite.
"I was allowed to do this but you are not" to paraphrase your
'argument'. Go help the Islamic society go through a reformation at a
quicker pace than it took Christianity and Judaism (thousands of years
after all LOL). The current actions/inactions only prolong the
'reformation of Islamic thought'.
[WJ20K]
WJ20K
Sounds just like arguments used by Christians and Jews once upon a time
in their respective religious development stages ....... you hypocrite.
[WJ20K]
mugz
Why just look at Christianity? Why not look at the whole world? All of
humaity has evolved, except for Muslims.. why is that?
mugz
WJ20K
Interesting. Your comment shows utter lack of historical knowledge.
At the time when Europe was wallowing in grime and the dark ages, the
Middle East was at its height. Humanity is cyclical. Up one century
in one location down the next century in another location. Learn a bit
of history before making juvenile remarks.
[WJ20K]
Ian MacLure
news:1165656623.2...@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
[snip]
> Interesting. Your comment shows utter lack of historical knowledge.
> At the time when Europe was wallowing in grime and the dark ages, the
> Middle East was at its height. Humanity is cyclical. Up one century
> in one location down the next century in another location. Learn a bit
> of history before making juvenile remarks.
Ironically it was the kickstart event of the fall of Constantinople
that led to the Renaissance in Europe. By that time Islam had lost its
taste for inquiry and started down the road to where it is today.
IBM
Ian MacLure
news:1165646103.8...@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com:
Nope I am consistent in my beliefs.
Christianity and Judaism are not by their nature aggressively
expansionist. Mixing religion with politics is another thing
entirely and led to some very bad things happening in the past.
Islam is incapable of moving beyond where it is now and must
therefore be dealt with from a position of strength. If you wish
to practice Islam in the West be prepared to adapt to western
society and don't expect us to accomodate you by modifying our
society.
IBM
Ian MacLure
news:1165645939.5...@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> Ian MacLure wrote:
>> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:1165474202.2...@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Ian MacLure wrote:
>> >> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> >> news:1165436574....@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> > Indeed as would be for many practicies of ancient times too among
>> > Chrsitians and Jews and others. Quite the imbecile hypocrite you
>> > are. [WJ20K]
>>
>> I don't think the Church or Judaism approved of marriage
>> and intercourse before puberty. Its certainly not allowed
>> today. Muslims on the other hand....
>
> Nor is it acceptable to the vast majority of Muslims, just like
> Chrisitians or Jews. You have child molestors all over, religion has
> little to do with it but in any case look at all the Priests that are
> caught molesting children all over Church areas each year. You are
> clearly an uneducated/uninformed hypocrite.
> [WJ20K]
The misbehavio(u)r of Christian clergy is misbehavio(u)r not
condoned by any respectable authority in any Church.
I understand this is not necessarily the case in Islam.
Why for instance did the Ayatollah Khomeini find it necessary
to write on "ethical" sexual relations between adult males and
girls as young as 9?
Answer is, hey it was OK with Mo must be OK with everyone just be
careful not to hurt her.
[snip]
> Just like the Church and Politics was once upon the time one and the
> same, learn some history. As I already said, you are an uninformed
> hypocrite.
By Church, I assume you mean the Church of Rome. Some of us decided
a very long time ago that Rome had no authority so your references to
"The Church" are to us meaningless.
I am well aware of European history and enough history of the Islamic
world to see quite clearly that peace and tolerance are not
characteristics of that world nor are they likely to become so in the
near future. This is the 21st centrury and the sooner the Muslim World
realises that we are onto them and shapes up the happier everyone will
be.
[snip]
> Was once upon a time also said about Christianity and Judaism you
> hypocrite. Learn your history.
Now see here Mohammed. Was is correct for the Judeo-Christian
community. We have for the most part moved on. Interestingly
enough those that haven't like the NK fanatics think they can
make nice with the likes of Hezbollah and Hamas.
Islam on the whole still believes in spreading by the sword and
woe bbetide those who don't acknowledge this.
[snip]
> There you have it, at least now you accept that you are a hypocrite.
> "I was allowed to do this but you are not" to paraphrase your
> 'argument'. Go help the Islamic society go through a reformation at a
> quicker pace than it took Christianity and Judaism (thousands of years
> after all LOL). The current actions/inactions only prolong the
> 'reformation of Islamic thought'.
Hell no, Abdool.
Islam either gets with the program or it gets whacked.
We aren't going to put up with 1400 years of the current shit.
That is the way its going to be whether you like it or not.
IBM
Ian MacLure
news:1165645127.5...@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com:
[snip]
> If you look closely at the history of Christianity you will reach my
> conclusion, is it guaranteed? Of course not, history NEVER repeats
> itself 100% the same, but there are vast similarities. As for 'vile',
> take a look at all the vile things done in the name of Christianity,
> you really seem to know very little about the subject it appears.
> [WJ20K]
Well excuuuuuuse us.
We tend to get a little impatient with head chopping barbarians
these days. And we have the means to make that displeasure
known.
IBM
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
Why do you ignore the fact that Christianity and Judaism have been
working at getting to where they are today a lot LOT longer then Islam?
A few hundred years ago all you say above applied to Christianity and
much before that Judiasm was in a similar position. Only because you
ignore time do you come to your erroneous conclusion - hence my calling
you a hypocrite.
[WJ20K]
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
Once again you demonstrate the fact that you know next to nothing of
history, or are simply a hypocrite. What you say above can equally
apply to Europe at the height of the Romans, "who then lost [their]
taste for inquiry and started down the road to where it is today." in
that case 'Today' was the eventual rise of the Islamic culture that
lasted centuries, just like once upon a time european Rome. Do you
now see how humanity's evolution [if is can be called that] is
cyclical? But no, you ignore history if it does not suit your
one-sided argument.
[WJ20K]
Muslims Are Good Folks
I urge you to study up on the true teachings of Islam, and not let your
opinion be affected by personal bias and un-Islamic cultural practices.
The
religion of Islam is pure in its beliefs and brilliant in its
understanding
of human nature. It offers the path to success in this world and the
next.
Please feel free to contact me any time, with any question you have.
Please peruse Islamic site for more information about Islam and
specifically
check out the links below. Thank you and please stay in touch. Salaam
http://www.al-sunnah.com/understanding_islam.htm
Get The Holy Quran. It is absolutely FREE
Usful links
Zeno
<la_ilaha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Can you give me a quick run down on what the Quran says about
"infidels"?
Mich
"Muslims Are Good Folks" <la_ilaha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In the Name of God, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful
>
> I urge you to study up on the true teachings of Islam, and not let your
> opinion be affected by personal bias and un-Islamic cultural practices.
> The
> religion of Islam is pure in its beliefs and brilliant in its
> understanding
> of human nature. It offers the path to success in this world and the
> next.
>
> Please feel free to contact me any time, with any question you have.
>
> Please peruse Islamic site for more information about Islam and
> specifically
> check out the links below. Thank you and please stay in touch. Salaam
Hi Salaam, and welcome :)
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Mich
"Muslims Are Good Folks" <la_ilaha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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From my experience most Moslems are "good folks". I have known and done
business with Muslims and I found that they are people that I feel
comfortable with. The ones that are true followers of the religion are quite
honest.
Perhaps you can bring in your own perspective in some of the threads that
touch on your religion? Sadly, some racist trolls will show up but we can
just ignore them.
Anonymous Infidel - Scares away the primitives with fire
Mich practicing Taqiyya when he wrote:
> "Muslims Are Good Folks" <la_ilaha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1165867333....@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
>
> From my experience most Moslems are "good folks". I have known and done
> business with Muslims and I found that they are people that I feel
> comfortable with. The ones that are true followers of the religion are quite
> honest.
Book 41, Number 4815:
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
>
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man follows the religion of his
friend; so each one should consider whom he makes his friend.
>
Means:
Muslims cannot be friends with non-muslims.
>
> Perhaps you can bring in your own perspective in some of the threads that
> touch on your religion? Sadly, some racist trolls will show up but we can
> just ignore them.
Troll = To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable
responses or flames;
>
While you are just hanging with your muslim friends you should ask them
about these chapters in the koran:
http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/noble/nobe047.htm
http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/noble/nobe009.htm
Ian MacLure
news:1165865604.5...@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
[snip]
> Why do you ignore the fact that Christianity and Judaism have been
> working at getting to where they are today a lot LOT longer then Islam?
Islam needs to get with the program or they will be removed from it.
> A few hundred years ago all you say above applied to Christianity and
> much before that Judiasm was in a similar position. Only because you
> ignore time do you come to your erroneous conclusion - hence my calling
> you a hypocrite.
Moron.
We aren't about to let some thugs who look at medieval behavio(u)r as
dangerously innovative run around the world casuing havoc. They can
live in this century or die in theirs.
IBM
Ian MacLure
news:1165865923....@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
[snip]
> Once again you demonstrate the fact that you know next to nothing of
> history, or are simply a hypocrite. What you say above can equally
> apply to Europe at the height of the Romans, "who then lost [their]
> taste for inquiry and started down the road to where it is today." in
> that case 'Today' was the eventual rise of the Islamic culture that
> lasted centuries, just like once upon a time european Rome. Do you
> now see how humanity's evolution [if is can be called that] is
> cyclical? But no, you ignore history if it does not suit your
> one-sided argument.
Well there's a fundamental difference between the West and Islam
having to do with two gentleman called Ghazzali and Aquinas.
They came to very different conclusions regarding a question key
to the subsequent development of their respective worlds.
Islam made one choice and stagnated, Christendom took the
other road and progressed.
Finding the details is left as an exercise for a Moron.
IBM
Muslims Are Good Folks
I urge you to study up on the true teachings
of Islam, and not let your opinion be affected
by personal bias and un-Islamic cultural practices.
The religion of Islam is pure in its beliefs and
brilliant in its understanding of human nature.
It offers the path to success in this world and
the next.
Please feel free to contact me any time, with
any question you have.
Please peruse Islamic site for more information
about Islam and specifically check out the links
below. Thank you and please stay in touch.
Salaam
http://www.al-sunnah.com/understanding_islam.htm
Get The Holy Quran. It is absolutely FREE
Useful links
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
Just like Christians and Jews did in the past? Happens all the time,
the last time European Jews and Christians (at least people who called
themselves Jews and Christians of various stripes) were at it they
killed close to 100 million of each other in various wars and pogroms
not even a century old. You Hypocrite.
[WJ20K]
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
Making incorrect statement such as "Christendom took the other road and
progressed" after supposedly Aquinas enlightened everyone despite all
the 'Christian inspired' atrocities world wide that grew and grew to
ever grander scales AFTER Aquinas; and continually picking and choosing
those very specific people and events in history that support the
hypocrites case while ignoring all those that do not is indeed the
exercise of a hypocritical moron, namely you. :-)
[WJ20K]
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
Same was said at the time Chrisitians were barbarically killing
non-Christians, (horrendous torture methods were invented by 'good'
Christians where in comparison chopping off someone head is childs
play), you hypocrite.
[WJ20K]
arash...@yahoo.com
http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/treblinka.htm
Wartime Aerial Photos of Treblinka Cast New Doubt on "Death Camp"
Claims (1992)
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p133_Allen.html
Using modern technology to establish Real History
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/Treblinka/groundscan.html
Traditions of the Jews
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi?p_id=10032
How Many Jews Were Killed?
http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/numbers.htm
Upcoming 'holocaust' conference will explore key issues of historical
inquiry
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/printer.php?id=11008
Dr. Duke Reports from Tehran
http://www.davidduke.com/?p=1530#more-1530
International conference to explore alternative perspectives to Jewish
'Holocaust'
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/printer.php?id=10885
Iran taunts the West with Holocaust debate (December 10, 2006)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2496363,00.html
James Bond's Jewish Villains
http://www.davidduke.com/?p=1517
Information beyond the control of the gatekeepers
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/
Institute for Historical Review (IHR)
http://www.ihr.org/
Real History
http://www.fpp.co.uk/BoD/origins/index.html
Vanguard News Network
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
Judicial Inc.
http://judicial-inc.biz/
No War For Israel
http://nowarforisrael.com/
Jewish Supremacism
http://www.davidduke.com/index.php?p=129
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL)
http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/ADL/index.html
Anonymous Infidel - Scares away the primitives with fire
> In the Name of God, the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful
>
> I urge you to study up on the true teachings
> of Islam, and not let your opinion be affected
> by personal bias and un-Islamic cultural practices.
http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/noble/nobe047.htm
http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/noble/nobe009.htm
>
> The religion of Islam is pure in its beliefs and
> brilliant in its understanding of human nature.
> It offers the path to success in this world and
> the next.
only be hell.
>
> Please feel free to contact me any time, with
> any question you have.
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/
>
> Please peruse Islamic site for more information
> about Islam and specifically check out the links
> below. Thank you and please stay in touch.
>
> Salaam
>
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
http://jihadwatch.org/And it is really good for killing up dog shit.
>
> Useful links
>
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
Arash
Anonymous Infidel - Aborted Islam with a hanger
Arash
rapists to "Bring it on"
http://judicial-inc.biz/1_mast513.jpg
Naomi Stein
Hate strikes at Ramapo College in New Jersey
http://judicial-inc.biz/ramapo_college_i.htm
Anonymous Infidel - Aborted Islam with a hanger
http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/noble/nobe047.htm
http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/noble/nobe009.htm
Arash
Americans continue torturing him. What kind of animals are the
Americans. No, animal would do this, even savage wolves would not do
this.
This is the Western Democracy, Freedom, and Human Rights....
Video
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15740.htm
Anonymous Infidel - Aborted Islam with a hanger
aras...@yahoo.com
Anonymous Infidel - Aborted Islam with a hanger
Only a moslem would buy into such lying bs....It feeds into his
intolerance of others, because in his faith all non-believers must be
killed. See Koran links below.
>
Also note: In the video the shoes are not American. This is a video of
muslims fucking a muslim...This is what happens when you have a society
that separates the sexes.
aras...@yahoo.com
continue torturing him. What kind of animals are the Americans. No,
animal would do this, even savage wolves would not do this".
This is the Western Democracy, Freedom, and Human Rights....
Ahura Mazda
Numbers 25:4 And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the HEADS of the
people, and HANG them up before the LORD AGAINST THE SUN, that the
fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.
Deuteronomy 20:16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD
thy God doth give thee [for] an inheritance, THOU SHALT SAVE ALIVE
NOTHING THAT BREATHETH:
Deuteronomy 20:17 But thou shalt UTTERLY DESTROY them; [namely], the
Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the
Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath COMMANDED THEE:
Judges 1:4 And Judah went up; and the LORD delivered the Canaanites
and the Perizzites into their hand: and they SLEW of them in Bezek TEN
THOUSAND MEN.
Judges 1:5 And they found Adonibezek in Bezek: and they fought against
him, and they SLEW the Canaanites and the Perizzites.
Judges 1:6 But Adonibezek fled; and they pursued after him, and caught
him, and CUT OFF HIS THUMBS AND HIS GREAT TOES.
Ezek. 9:5 And the Lord said, "Go through the city, and smite: let not
your eye spare, neither have you pity. SLAY UTTERLY OLD AND YOUNG, BOTH
MAIDS AND LITTLE CHILDREN, AND WOMEN.
[Num. 31:1] And the Lord said unto Moses, "Avenge the children of the
Mid'-an'ites.. They warred against the Mid'-i-an'ites, as the Lord
commanded Moses, and they slay all the males. And they took all women
as captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their
cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. And they burnt all
their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with
fire. Moses said, "HAVE YOU SAVED ALL THE WOMEN ALIVE? NOW KILL EVERY
MALE AMONG THE LITTLE ONES, AND KILL EVERY WOMAN that has known a man
by lying with him, but all the young girls who have not known a man by
lying with him keep alive for yourselves.
[Josh 6:16] Joshua said to the people of Israel, "The Lord has given
you the city (of the Canaanites).. all silver, and gold, and vessels of
brass and iron, are c consecrated unto the Lord: They shall come into
the treasury of the Lord. The people utterly DESTROYED ALL THAT WAS IN
THE CITY, BOTH MAN AND WOMAN, YOUNG AND OLD, AND OX AND SHEEP, AND ASS,
WITH THE EDGE OF THE SWORD.
KILLING, KIDNAPPING, SLAVERY
[Josh. 16:10] So the Canaanites have dwelt in the midst of E'phraim to
this day, but become slaves to do forced labour. (see also Joshua 17:13
and Judg. 1:30)
[Judg. 21:10] The congregation of Benjamin sent twelve thousand of
their bravest men, and commanded them, "Go and smite the inhabitants of
Ja'-besh-gil'ead with the edge of the sword; also the women and the
little ones. Every male and every woman that has lain with a male YOU
SHALL UTTERLY DESTROY.
And they found among the inhabitants four hundred YOUNG VIRGINS who had
not known a man by lying with him; and they brought them to the camp of
Shiloh, which is the land of Canaan. And Benjamin returned at that
time, and they gave them the women whom they had saved alive of the
women of Ja'besh-gil'ead, but they did not suffice for them.
STEALING WOMEN !!
And they commanded the Benjaminites, saying:"Go and lie in wait in the
vineyard, and watch, if the daughters of Shiloh go out to dance in the
dances, then come out of the vineyard and seize each man his wife from
the daughters of Shiloh. And the Benjaminites did so, and took their
wives from
the dancers whom they caught.
KILL THEM AND TAKE THEIR PROPERTIES
[Deut. 20:10] When you draw near to a city to fight against it, offer
terms of peace to it. And if its answer to you is peace and it opens to
you, then all the people who are found in it SHALL BE FORCED LABOUR FOR
YOU AND SHALL SERVE YOU.
But if it makes no peace with you, then you shall besiege it, .. YOU
SHALL PUT ALL ITS MALES TO THE SWORD, BUT THE WOMEN AND THE LITTLE
ONES, the cattle and every thing else in the city all its spoil, YOU
SHALL TAKE AS BOOTY FOR YOURSELVES; AND YOU SHALL ENJOY THE SPOIL OF
YOUR ENEMIES.
REVENGE, SWORD, FIRE !!
[Heb. 12:29] OUR GOD IS DESTROYING FIRE.
[Psalm. 94:1] O LORD, YOU GOD OF VENGEANCE.
[Job 7:21] Why do not you pardon my transgression and take away my
iniquity?
[Ezek. 11:8] God said, "You have feared the sword, the sword I will
bring upon you."
[Amos 9:1] I will slay that left of them with the sword, not one of
them shall flee away.. I WILL COMMAND THE SWORD, AND IT SHALL SLAY
THEM.
[Jer.49:37] I will send the sword after them, until I have consumed
them. (Let those who say Islam is the religion of the sword know that
the word "sword" is never mentioned in the Quran while the Bible
mentions it many times, in the way that you see here.) [Ezek. 12:14] I
will unsheathe the sword after them. I will let a few of them escape
from the sword, from famine and pestilence.
THE BIBLE MISREPRESENTS GOD'S MERCY
[Jer. 19:7] The Lord said, "T WILL MAKE THEM EAT THE FLESH OF THEIR
SONS AND THEIR DAUGHTERS, and every one shall eat the flesh of his
neighbour.
[Levi.26:14] If you will not hearken to me..21 I will bring a sword
upon you.. 29 YOU SHALL EAT THE FLESH OF YOUR SONS, AND DAUGHTERS.
[Lam. 2:20] LOOK O LORD, AND SEE! WITH WHOM YOU HAVE DONE THAT: SHOULD
WOMEN EAT THEIR FRUIT AND CHILDREN OF A SPAN LONG?
[Lam. 4:4] The hands of compassionate women have boiled their own
childrenthey became their food.
SWORD AND FIRE IN NEW TESTAMENT
[Math. 10:34] "Do not think that I have come to make peace on earth? I
HAVE NOT COME TO BRING PEACE, BUT A SWORD. "For I have come to set a
man against his father, and a daughter against her mother." [said
Jesus]!
[Luke. 12:49] 'I CAME TO CAST FIRE UPON THE EARTH, AND WOULD THAT IT
WERE ALREADY KINDLED.. DO YOU THINK THAT I HAVE COME TO GIVE PEACE ON
EARTH? NO, I TELL YOU, BUT RATHER DIVISION; for from henceforth in one
house there will be five divided, three against two, and two against
three. They will be divided, father against son, and son against
father, mother against daughter, and daughter against her mother. [said
Jesus]!
[Luke. 19:27] For these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign
over them, BRING THEM HERE AND SLAY THEM BEFORE ME.
[Luke. 14:26] If any one comes to me and does not HATE his own father
and mother and wife, and children, and brothers and sisters yes and
even his own life: he cannot be my disciple.
PAUL AND RACISM
[Gal. 2:15] Paul said, "We ourselves, who are Jews by birth and not
Gentile sinners."
[Gal. 4:22] For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a
slave, and by a free women. BUT WHAT DOES THE SCRIPTURE SAY? "CAST OUT
THE SLAVE AND HER SON, FOR THE SON OF SLAVE SHALL NOT INHERIT WITH THE
SON OF THE FREE WOMAN" SO, BRETHREN WE ARE NOT CHILDREN OF THE SLAVE
BUT OF THE FREE WOMAN."
GENTILES IN THE BIBLE !!!
[Isia. 49:22] Thus the Lord said, "Behold I will lift up my hand to the
gentiles, and raise up my signal to the people, and they shall bring
your sons in their bosom, and your daughters shall be carried on their
shoulders. Kings shall be your foster fathers, and their queens your
nursing mothers. WITH THEIR FACES TO THE GROUND THEY SHALL BOW DOWN TO
YOU, AND LICK THE DUST OF YOUR FEET.
[Isia. 60:4] Lift up your eyes round about, and see, they all gather
together, they come to you. THE WEALTH OF THE NATIONS(in K.J.version:
gentiles) SHALL COME UNTO YOU and the sons of the foreigners shall
build up your walls, and their kings shall minister unto you...MEN MAY
BRING UNTO YOU THE WEALTH OF THE NATIONS (in K.J. version: Gentiles)
WITH THEIR KINGS LED IN YOUR POSSESSION. For the nation and kingdom
that will not serve you shall perish; those nations shall be utterly
laid waste. YOU SHALL SUCK THE MILK OF THE NATIONS(in K.J. version:
Gentiles), YOU SHALL SUCK THE BREAST OF KINGS.
[Isia. 61:5] And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the
sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedresses. BUT YOU
SHALL BE NAMED THE PRIESTS OF THE LORD. Men shall call you the
ministers of God. YOU SHALL EAT THE RICHES OF THE NATIONS(in
K.J.version Gentiles) AND IN THEIR GLORY SHALL YOU BOAST YOURSELVES.
TAKE USURY FROM THE GENTILES ONLY !!
[Deut. 23:19] "Do not charge your brother interest, you may charge a
foreigner interest, but not a brother Israelite." (The word Israelite
according to the Good News Bible)
[Deut.15:1] Every creditor shall release what he has lent to his
neighbour. He shall not exact it of his neighbour, his brother. Of a
foreigner you may exact it. But whatever of yours is with your brother,
your
hand shall release.
EX 21:23-25, LE 24:17-21, DT 19:21 An eye for an eye, a tooth for a
tooth, etc.
EX 22:20 Anyone who sacrifices to other gods must be destroyed.
LE 24:16 Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord must be put to death.
NU 3:10 An unauthorized person who acts as a priest must be put to
death.
DT 13:6-10 A man is required to slay his friends and members of his own
family who are guilty of worshipping another god.
DT 17:12 A man who shows contempt for a judge or priest must be put to
death.
DT 18:20-22, EZ 14:9 If a prophet's words do not come true, he is a
false prophet and must be put to death. This is true even if he has
been deceived by God himself.
DT 22:23-24 A betrothed virgin who is seduced in the city is to be put
to death unless she cries for help.
PR 13:24, 22:15, 23:13 Children are to be disciplined with the rod-- if
beaten with a rod, they will not die. (Note: Many Christian parents
have inadvertently beaten a child to death following this precept.)
MT 5:29-30, 18:8-9, MK 9:43-47 If your eye causes you to sin, pluck it
out. If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off.
MK 10:2-12, LK 16:18 Divorce is wrong, and to remarry is to commit
adultery.
LE 20:10-12, DT 22:22 Adulterers (in some cases) must be put to death.
Genesis 34:25 Three days later, while all of them were still in pain,
two of Jacob's sons, Simeon and Levi, Dinah's brothers, took their
swords and attacked the unsuspecting city, killing every male.
Exodus 32:27 Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of
Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth
through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother
and friend and neighbor.'"
Leviticus 26:29 You will eat the flesh of your sons and the flesh of
your daughters.
Numbers 21:35 So they struck him down, together with his sons and his
whole army, leaving them no survivors. And they took possession of his
land.
Numbers 31:31 So Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the LORD commanded
Moses.
32 The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was
675,000 sheep,
33 72,000 cattle,
34 61,000 donkeys
35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.
36 The half share of those who fought in the battle was: 337,500 sheep,
37 of which the tribute for the LORD was 675;
38 36,000 cattle, of which the tribute for the LORD was 72;
39 30,500 donkeys, of which the tribute for the LORD was 61;
40 16,000 people, of which the tribute for the LORD was 32.
Deuteronomy 2 :33 The LORD our God delivered him over to us and we
struck him down, together with his sons and his whole army.
34 At that time we took all his towns and completely destroyed
[1] them--men, women and children. We left no survivors.
Deuteronomy 20:13 When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand,
put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children,
the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as
plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God
gives you from your enemies.
Joshua 6:21 They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the
sword every living thing in it--men and women, young and old, cattle,
sheep and donkeys.
Joshua 10:34 Then Joshua and all Israel with him moved on from Lachish
to Eglon; they took up positions against it and attacked it.
35 They captured it that same day and put it to the sword and totally
destroyed everyone in it, just as they had done to Lachish.
Judges 1:6 Adoni-Bezek fled, but they chased him and caught him, and
cut off his thumbs and big toes.
Judges 9:45 All that day Abimelech pressed his attack against the city
until he had captured it and killed its people. Then he destroyed the
city and scattered salt over it.
1 Samuel 15:3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[1]
everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men
and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and
donkeys.'"
Ezekiel 9:6 Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and
children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my
sanctuary." So they began with the elders who were in front of the
temple.
Zeno
What kind of animals are the Muslims. No, animal would strap on
explosives for mass murder, even savage wolves would not do this".
mash_ghasem
Wolves many not but you motherfucker IRI thugs are capable
of worse. The bastard is shedding crocodile tear now.
This is the same low life SOB which was supporting
Zahra Khazemi's murder and his brothers the other IRI thugs
shoting injuered man on the stretcher.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-iranpics0611-28.html
The article about the photographer
Ian MacLure
news:1165912445....@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
[snip]
> Just like Christians and Jews did in the past? Happens all the time,
Keyword is PAST. Its over stick a fork in it.
> the last time European Jews and Christians (at least people who called
> themselves Jews and Christians of various stripes) were at it they
> killed close to 100 million of each other in various wars and pogroms
> not even a century old. You Hypocrite.
We aren't obligated to let the Muslim World create chaos and strife
on the pretext of catching up. If they want to have at each other fine
but when they involve those who want nothing to do with Islam they
can expect consequences.
IBM
Ian MacLure
news:1165912920.8...@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
> Ian MacLure wrote:
>
>> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:1165865923....@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> > Once again you demonstrate the fact that you know next to nothing of
>> > history, or are simply a hypocrite. What you say above can equally
>> > apply to Europe at the height of the Romans, "who then lost [their]
>> > taste for inquiry and started down the road to where it is today." in
>> > that case 'Today' was the eventual rise of the Islamic culture that
>> > lasted centuries, just like once upon a time european Rome. Do you
>> > now see how humanity's evolution [if is can be called that] is
>> > cyclical? But no, you ignore history if it does not suit your
>> > one-sided argument.
>>
>> Well there's a fundamental difference between the West and Islam
>> having to do with two gentleman called Ghazzali and Aquinas.
>> They came to very different conclusions regarding a question key
>> to the subsequent development of their respective worlds.
>> Islam made one choice and stagnated, Christendom took the
>> other road and progressed.
>> Finding the details is left as an exercise for a Moron.
>>
>> IBM
>
>
> Making incorrect statement such as "Christendom took the other road and
> progressed" after supposedly Aquinas enlightened everyone despite all
You don't have the faintest clue what the controversy was about
so you might as well STFU right now.
> the 'Christian inspired' atrocities world wide that grew and grew to
> ever grander scales AFTER Aquinas; and continually picking and choosing
> those very specific people and events in history that support the
> hypocrites case while ignoring all those that do not is indeed the
> exercise of a hypocritical moron, namely you. :-)
I'm merely telling you that Islam needs to play catchup real
quick because there is a limited amount of tolerance for the
behavio(u)r observed in Muslim societies. We aren't going to
wait 1400 years for this to happen hell they'll be lucky if we
wait 14 years.
IBM
Ian MacLure
news:1165913083.4...@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
[snip]
> Same was said at the time Chrisitians were barbarically killing
> non-Christians, (horrendous torture methods were invented by 'good'
> Christians where in comparison chopping off someone head is childs
> play), you hypocrite.
Just remember we've had a couple of hundred years to improve our
technique. When push comes to shove it'll make what Tamerlane
did look like a Kumbaya fest.
IBM
Muslims Always Victorious
Everyone wants a fair share of attacking Islam.
But who is there to answer for Islam?
The fact is that Islam needs no defence.
Islam continues to spread in the face of
mighty opposition.
Yet Muslims cannot sit idly by watching as
Islam is under siege.
Muslims have to provide the answers to the
objections, criticisms, and negative
stereotypes of Islam.
This page is an attempt to do just that.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/shabir.ally/toppage1.htm
Get The Holy Quran. It is absolutely FREE
Useful links
Understanding Islam
http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E1283E
http://www.muslimheritage.com/Default.aspx
Mad mo was a pig raping pedophile
> pislam Can't Answer Back
>
> Everyone wants a fair share of attacking Islam.
> But who is there to answer for Islam?
> The fact is that Islam needs no defence.
So its indefensible?
> pislam fails to spread in the face of
> mighty opposition.
>
> Yet Muslims cannot sit idly by watching as
> pislam is under siege.
Is that why they kill each other?
> Muslims have to provide the answers to the
> objections, criticisms, and negative
> stereotypes of pislam.
>
> This page is an attempt to do just that.
Too bad it fails because muzzies are idiot losers.
We are Muslims, and we are extremely proud of it.
with caution
Be Aware.... non-Muslim spammers still at large
...I hate these freakin anti-Isalm trolls...
Anti-Islam trolls spreading hater against Muslims!!
Anti-Islam trolls also spamming the Newsgroups
with intent to hinder normal discussions.
And
Stealing aliases to post off topic and hatred-filled,
divisive rubbish on Board...........
And,
Posting a string of racial obscenities and profane
language
Which proof that,
non Muslims can't express themselves without using
profanity and racist slurs
Be Aware.
Dear Seeker of Truth,
No one is compelled to accept the truth, but it is
certainly a shame upon the human intellect when
a man is not even interested in finding out what
the truth is!
Islam teaches that our Creator has given human
beings the faculty of reason.
Therefore, it is incumbent upon them to reason
things out objectively and systematically for
themselves to ponder, to question and to reflect.
Nobody should press you to make a hasty decision
to accept any of the teachings of Islam, for Islam
teaches that human beings should be given the
freedom to choose. Even when a person is faced
with the truth, there is no compulsion upon him
to embrace it.
But before you begin to form an opinion about
Islam, ask yourself whether your existing
knowledge about it is thorough enough.
Ask yourself whether that knowledge has been
obtained through third party sources who
themselves have probably been exposed to
only random glimpses of Islamic writings and
have yet to reason out on Islam objectively
and systematically themselves.
Is it fair enough that one should form an opinion
about the taste of a particular dish just by a
mere hearsay from others who may themselves
have not necessarily tasted the dish yet?
Similarly you should find out for yourself about
Islam from reliable sources and not only taste it,
but rather digest it very well before you form an
opinion of it. That would be an intellectual approach
to the truth.
In making your next move to the truth, Islam
continually reassures you that your rights to
freedom of choice and freedom to use that
God-given faculty of thought and reason will
be respected, for everyone has that individual
will. No one else can take away that will and
force you to submit to the true way of your
Creator, you have to find out and make that
decision yourself!
May your intellectual journey towards the truth
be a pleasant and fruitful one.
Anonymous Infidel - Aborted Islam with a hanger
>
No American, just muslim on muslims, big surprise. Isn't pislam the
greatest.
http://tinyurl.com/ygod2w
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1165912445....@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Just like Christians and Jews did in the past? Happens all the time,
>
> Keyword is PAST. Its over stick a fork in it.
In other words you are doing EXACTLY what others were doing in the
past. Imagine the Muslims in Spain complaining like you do about all
the things the Christians across the Pyrenese were doing to each other.
As I wrote countless times, you only pick a single period in time on
which to latch your idiocy and ignore all the rest you hypocrite.
[WJ20K]
>
> > the last time European Jews and Christians (at least people who called
> > themselves Jews and Christians of various stripes) were at it they
> > killed close to 100 million of each other in various wars and pogroms
> > not even a century old. You Hypocrite.
>
> We aren't obligated to let the Muslim World create chaos and strife
> on the pretext of catching up. If they want to have at each other fine
> but when they involve those who want nothing to do with Islam they
> can expect consequences.
>
> IBM
Exactly what Muslims in the past were saying about Christians at the
time when the Christian world was living in absolute squalor. Give it
up, you have show to be the hypocrite you are.
[WJ20K]
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
And I am merely saying that you are a hypocrite to ignore that
Christianity and Islam have gone through this before which you just
want to ignore and pretend that Christinity is somehow 'better' that
Islam in this respect. It is not, in fact more people died at the
hands of Christians throughout history than at the hand of any other
specific religious group, all you need to do is look at the last
century.
[WJ20K]
Muslims Always Victorious
Beat anti-Islam trolls, beat them at their own game.
The desperate and talentless anti-Islam trolls job is
sending out barrage spam in an attempt to silence
Muslim voice...... - must be desperate!!
Since the don't have any valid argument then - anti
Islam trolls - will use all dirty trick in the book.
* [ Forgery] Impersonating popular Muslims posters
by using their name such as stealing aliases, identity
theft, pretending to be Muslim poster, etc...
* [Fraud] Distorting the truth, giving a false misleading
account of Islam by twisted and disorderly manner, such
as modifying Muslims posts to make them looking
different in what actually said.
* [Cancellation] Unauthorized and forged cancel
messages, by such tactics the troll believe they
prevented the truth to reach the readers!!
Despite all the above and other dirty tricks used by
anti-Islam trolls, still Muslim posters winning the debates..
Why? Because they are standing for noble cause, justice
peace and love without boundaries...
Ambassador Herman Ellis, in a testimony in front of the
committee on Foreign Affairs of the House of Representatives
of the United States Congress on June 24th, 1985, said,
"The Muslim community of the globe today is in the
neighborhood of one billion. That is an impressive figure.
But what to me is equally impressive is that Islam today
is the fastest growing monotheistic religion. This is something
we have to take into account.
Something is right about Islam. It is attracting a good many
people."
Yes, something is right about Islam and that's why it has
attracted so many people throughout its 1400 years of
history.
The desperate and talentless anti-Islam trolls targeting the
following authors
1): Islam Will Replace Collapsing Amerikan Empire
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G16732D6C
2): 1MAN4ALL
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2281282C
3): We are Muslims, and we are extremely proud of it.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R3482282C
4): markzoom
5): LeNoir
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C5F83604C
6): Islam is the religion chosen by Allah for all humanity
http://makeashorterlink.com/?B34F2571C
7): "kangarooistan"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?T29D1242E
8): Muslims Are Good Folks
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C3782182C
9): ISLAM - THE SOLUTION OF MODERN PROBLEMS
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2855320D
10): "Mirelle"
11): V i v a P a l e s t i n e!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?T1952320D
12): Zionism is a cancer
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G5C52120D
13): All praise is due to Allah Lord of the Worlds, the Owner of all of
the
creation
http://makeashorterlink.com/?M1D53120D
14): Katucha
http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2065220D
15): ISLAAM -THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P29225D8D
16): ?k½ü¤j?k¦n
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N1682282C
17): Ilan Ramon: Kike Lost in Space
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3561220D
18): Death to Israel..Israel has no Right to Exist
http://makeashorterlink.com/?E2B61520D
19): Muslims Always victorious
http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2331210D
20): Buddy III
Islam based on violence!
Spin, spin spin
<gurgle, gurgle>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Ilan Ramon: Kike Lost in Space
I know there are a few devious anti-Islam trolls on here...
Keeo your great job by beating them at their own
game but making...
You are making anti-Islam trolls life a living hell
Jews are good folks too
>
> Ian MacLure wrote:
>
>> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:1165912920.8...@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Ian MacLure wrote:
>> >
>> >> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> >> news:1165865923....@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>> >>
>> >> [snip]
<snip>
>> I'm merely telling you that Islam needs to play catchup real quick
>> because there is a limited amount of tolerance for the behavio(u)r
>> observed in Muslim societies. We aren't going to wait 1400 years
>> for this to happen hell they'll be lucky if we wait 14 years.
>>
>> IBM
>
>
> And I am merely saying that you are a hypocrite to ignore that
> Christianity and Islam have gone through this before which you just want
> to ignore and pretend that Christinity is somehow 'better' that Islam in
> this respect. It is not, in fact more people died at the hands of
> Christians throughout history than at the hand of any other specific
> religious group, all you need to do is look at the last century. [WJ20K]
What is that fixation to call other hypocrites? Whatever happened in the
past is passed, and today we must deal with today's problem; islam. It's
not a question of ignoring history, and justifying either side. The fact
is that it's islam against non-muslims, not just christians, and calling
anybody hypocrite won't do anything to solve the problem.
--
JP
If it looks like shit, smells like shit, do I really need to taste it?
WJ20K
But the previous poster took to position that Islam was somehow worse
that other religions, which is why he is a hypocrite. As for Muslims
against non-Muslims, it also once upon a time was Chrisitians against
non-Christians, and eve before than non-Christians against new
Christians. It's all cyclical, no particular period in humanity was
any better morally than any other, thus all religions are practially
the same.
[WJ20K]
>
> --
> JP
>
> If it looks like shit, smells like shit, do I really need to taste it?
If you sense of smell and sense of sight is faulty, then you are left
with no choice but to.
[WJ20K]
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
So basically you've announced that there is no difference between any
of the religions, in each you will get idiots like yourself who only
can think of the next time they get an opportunity to kill. William
Goulding was right.
[WJ20K]
Anonymous Infidel - Scares away the primitives with fire
No American's, No Christians, All muslims.
http://tinyurl.com/yhv9dh
http://tinyurl.com/ybhohz
http://tinyurl.com/ycy55x
>
Only a moslem would buy into such lying bs....It feeds into their
intolerance of others, because in their faith all non-believers must be
killed. See Koran links below.
>
>
> Islam is about terrorism and mass murder:
> http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/noble/nobe047.htm
> http://www.ummah.net/what-is-islam/quran/noble/nobe009.htm
JHM
pertinent to the politics of invasionism:
Hawza Manifesto of 20.XI.1427 (12 December 2006)
<< http://www.elaph.com/ElaphWeb/Politics/2006/12/197185.htm >>
"Think not that Allah doth not heed the deeds of those who do wrong. He
but giveth them respite against a Day when the eyes will fixedly stare
in horror, They running forward with necks outstretched, their heads
uplifted, their gaze returning not towards them, and their hearts a
(gaping) void!" [Ibráhím XIV: 42-3]
Groups of excommunicators and Saddámite Ba'thís have made their
object the renewal by compatiots of the sharp [? 'abriyá' ?] isolation
from Iraqi Muslims, they being on their way to acquire aliment for
their dependents and children at al-Tayarán Square in Baghdád this
morning what led to the falls of more than 220 from the poor labourers
between killed and wounded scattering their corpuses in the space of
the large square and upon the soil of the City of Peace besprinkled
with blood of the compatriots slaughtered by the doing of fatwas and
proclamations of summoning to excommunicatory sectarian instigation in
Iraq and neighboring Arab states.
This human butchery happened after the issuing of a fatwa signed by 38
shaykhs of Royal Sa'údí Arabian religious positions, among them
university professors active and retired and judges and government
officials in religious foundations, in which they instigate dissension
amongst the Muslims -- "dissension is worse than murder" [al-Baqara
II:217] -- and embolden their followers and hedless people amongst
their listeners to permit themselves the bloods and honors and
possesions of Shia Muslims in Iraq and elsewhere, for no reason except
that they are of the following of the Ahl al-Bayt, all that has come to
pass and is coming to pass on the basis of appearance, and rumor, and
heedlessness -- to put it mildly -- on the part of their government --
in the land of the two noble shrines, in the birthplace of revelation
and the abode of the Prophet of mercy and the people of his pure House,
from whom God has removed filth and purified them a purification!
The emboldenment filled with heedlessness [resulting] from such
fatwas, and the lack of [self-] restraint of those who issue them, and
their [lack of] responsibility and [failure] to hold a trial, whether
ecclesiastical or civil, burdens government officials who keep silent
from uttering the truth with responsibility for failure "to forbid the
wrong," besides [responsibility for] dissension amongst Muslims, sparks
of which have begun to fly to encompass the region as a whole.
God says in His Noble Book, "Say: 'No reward do I ask of you for this
except the love of those near of kin.'" [al-Shúrá XLII:23]
That is what we say also. We expect the government of the Kingdom and
its other religious offices to undertake its and their mandatory duty,
casting [the responsibility] upon its and their shoulders, and do so
without delay -- we are waiting. God is the friend of believers.
Praise to God, Lord of the worlds.
(signed)
The Learned Hawza at Noble Najaf
20 Dhú l-Qa'da 1427 (12.XII.2006)
aras...@yahoo.com
http://www.ihr.org/
Anonymous Infidel - The Muslim Fixer
Ian MacLure
news:1166045818.1...@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
No, I'm saying we have limited patience with looney toon
Mooselimb fanatics. If they want jihad, jihad they'll get
and not in a nice way. When Mooslimbs shout Death To THe
Infidels they ought to pause and remember that from our
perspective that's them and we may be more than happy to
oblige if we lose patience.
IBM
Ian MacLure
news:1166045345....@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com:
[snip]
> But the previous poster took to position that Islam was somehow worse
> that other religions, which is why he is a hypocrite. As for Muslims
He can be excused for thinking Islam resembles a death cult.
> against non-Muslims, it also once upon a time was Chrisitians against
> non-Christians, and eve before than non-Christians against new
Once upon a time. That isn't now. We don' tolerate it in western
societies. No reason to tolerate it in Muslim societies.
> Christians. It's all cyclical, no particular period in humanity was
> any better morally than any other, thus all religions are practially
> the same.
Nope. Islam is a dangerously violent religion.
IBM
Ian MacLure
news:1165997512.5...@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
[snip]
> And I am merely saying that you are a hypocrite to ignore that
> Christianity and Islam have gone through this before which you just
> want to ignore and pretend that Christinity is somehow 'better' that
> Islam in this respect. It is not, in fact more people died at the
> hands of Christians throughout history than at the hand of any other
> specific religious group, all you need to do is look at the last
> century.
Nope Christianity has evolved.
Islam cannot and will not evolve.
It will remain a death cult to the end of time.
If Muslims are so willing to die for their faith
we ought to provide them the means of achieving this goal.
IBM
Ian MacLure
news:1165997307.1...@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> Ian MacLure wrote:
>
>> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:1165912445....@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> > Just like Christians and Jews did in the past? Happens all the time,
>>
>> Keyword is PAST. Its over stick a fork in it.
>
> In other words you are doing EXACTLY what others were doing in the
> past. Imagine the Muslims in Spain complaining like you do about all
> the things the Christians across the Pyrenese were doing to each other.
> As I wrote countless times, you only pick a single period in time on
> which to latch your idiocy and ignore all the rest you hypocrite.
They weren't complaining they were plotting how to take
advantage of the squabbles. Problem was the Spanish in those
days had a spine and after Tolosa the Mooslimbs were toast
It took another centruy or so but the fix was in from that
point on.
[snip]
> Exactly what Muslims in the past were saying about Christians at the
> time when the Christian world was living in absolute squalor. Give it
> up, you have show to be the hypocrite you are.
And Muslims are still iving in the past. They need to get with the
program. If they don't there will be consequences.
IBM
Kope
arash...@yahoo.com
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/
Institute for Historical Review (IHR)
http://www.ihr.org/
Real History
http://www.fpp.co.uk/BoD/origins/index.html
Vanguard News Network
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
Judicial Inc.
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No War For Israel
http://nowarforisrael.com/
Jewish Supremacism
http://www.davidduke.com/index.php?p=129
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL)
http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/ADL/index.html
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1165997307.1...@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Ian MacLure wrote:
> >
> >> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> news:1165912445....@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> > Just like Christians and Jews did in the past? Happens all the time,
> >>
> >> Keyword is PAST. Its over stick a fork in it.
> >
> > In other words you are doing EXACTLY what others were doing in the
> > past. Imagine the Muslims in Spain complaining like you do about all
> > the things the Christians across the Pyrenese were doing to each other.
> > As I wrote countless times, you only pick a single period in time on
> > which to latch your idiocy and ignore all the rest you hypocrite.
>
> They weren't complaining they were plotting how to take
> advantage of the squabbles.
Just like is going on now at political levels you hypocrite.
[WJ20K]
Problem was the Spanish in those
> days had a spine and after Tolosa the Mooslimbs were toast
> It took another centruy or so but the fix was in from that
> point on.
>
> [snip]
>
> > Exactly what Muslims in the past were saying about Christians at the
> > time when the Christian world was living in absolute squalor. Give it
> > up, you have show to be the hypocrite you are.
>
> And Muslims are still iving in the past. They need to get with the
> program. If they don't there will be consequences.
>
> IBM
Just what Muslims in Spain were saying about Christians in the rest of
European at that time, you hypocrite. It's all cyclical, you just do
not like that that is part of humanity for better or worse.
[WJ20K]
WJ20K
Ian MacLure wrote:
> "WJ20K" <webjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1166045345....@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com:
>
> [snip]
>
> > But the previous poster took to position that Islam was somehow worse
> > that other religions, which is why he is a hypocrite. As for Muslims
>
> He can be excused for thinking Islam resembles a death cult.
You can be certain that there is plenty of historical evidence to
consider Judaism and Christianity death cults too. But then one would
have to be as stupid as you, sadly there are plenty of those.
[WJ20K]
>
> > against non-Muslims, it also once upon a time was Chrisitians against
> > non-Christians, and eve before than non-Christians against new
>
> Once upon a time. That isn't now. We don' tolerate it in western
> societies. No reason to tolerate it in Muslim societies.
Which also was the case 'once-upon-a-time'. It ALWAYS is so, all is
cyclical. Strange that you cannot accept that history DOES repeat
itself in one shape or another, oh right, it shows you are a hypocrite.
LOL!
[WJ20K]
>
> > Christians. It's all cyclical, no particular period in humanity was
> > any better morally than any other, thus all religions are practially
> > the same.
>
> Nope. Islam is a dangerously violent religion.
>
> IBM
Join the groups that say this about Christianity and Judaism instead of
placing the responsibility on the person 'interpreting' religion in
such a way as to use it to justify their atrocities. There are plenty
of those around and you'd make great beadfellows since the concept of
personal-responsibility is to advanced for your type.
[WJ20K]