Re: What is Religion???

[Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess]

On Wed, 15 May 2013 20:03:53 -0700 (PDT)
Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:41:54 PM UTC-7, Joe Bruno wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:46:53 PM UTC-7, Jim Burns wrote:
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> > > On 5/15/2013 6:44 PM, Joe Bruno wrote:
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> > > > On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:27:19 PM UTC-7, Jim Burns wrote:
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> > > >> On 5/15/2013 4:00 PM, Joe Bruno wrote:
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> > > >>> Why only one God? The Jews and Moslems give their gods
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> > > >>> different names. Why must they be the same deity?
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> > > >> The Muslim Christian and Jewish gods are the same deity because
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> > > >> Muslims, Christians and Jews say they are the same, by all of
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> > > >> them referring to the God of Abraham as their god.
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> > > > No. All three include Abraham as a father figure. That's what
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> > > > the word means. If you read the Moslem Koran, you can see that
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> > > > Allah is vastly different in his commands and values than the
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> > > > God of Judaism and Christianity.
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> > > The God of one chapter of the Bible is vastly different
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> > > chapter. Actually, I suspect the differences within
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> > > the Bible are larger than the differences between the
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> > > Koran and the Bible. Does this mean that different
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> > > chapters of the Bible have different deities?
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> > > I'm willing to accept either yes or no from you on this
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> > > point. It's your made-up story, after all; you can tell
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> > > it however you like.
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> > > If you use the smaller differences to claim that
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> > > Muslims do not worship your god at the same time that
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> > > you ignore the larger differences within your own
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> > > traditions, it is still your story, but the moral of the
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> > > story is that you are a nasty bigot.
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> > > <unsnip>
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> > > >> True, some of them claim they are not the same, but
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> > > >> these people are not known for clarity of thought.
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> > > </unsnip>
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> > > For example, you.
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> > > >> It is a fact (within ACD's stories) that Sherlock Holmes
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> > > >> was an Englishman, that he solved crimes, that he played
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> > > >> It is a fact (within a different, older set of stories)
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> > > >> that the Muslim, Christian, and Jewish gods are all the
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> > > >> same deity.
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> > > > NO.
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> > > You don't get to have Sherlock Holmes play the tuba.
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> > > You also don't get to make the gods of the Muslims,
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> > > Christians, and Jews different deities.
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> > > By the way, would you like some websites claiming that
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> > > the Christian and Jewish gods are different deities?
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> > > I could probably find them for you.
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> > No need. I've heard a number of Jews say that and listened to their
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> > The arguments were good ones and now, I wonder myself.
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> > > >> (By the way, Arabic-speaking Christians call their god
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> > > >> "Allah",
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> Read this:
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> http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/allah.html
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> "Allah" is the Arabic word for "God" and it's use by some Arab
> Christians predates the inception of Islam by centuries.

Although I really like that answer because of its apparent etymological
nature, I am skeptical because of its source. Perhaps more research is
needed, but I think this is a really good starting point.

--
Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
"Religion is the original war crime."
-- Michelle "hypatiab7" Malkin (2005)