WHAT do Neil Diamond, AC/DC, Marilyn Manson, Eminem, Christina Aguilera and Don
McLean have in common?
They were all used as instruments of torture by the US government.
Former Guantanamo guards and detainees have said that these big names are among
35 artists whose music was used as a means of torture at the detention facility.
Others on the list include Tupac Shakur, Pink, Bruce Springsteen and The Bee
Gees. It is also alleged that the theme from Sesame Street was played to unnerve
inmates.
In reaction to the news, bands such as R.E.M. and Pearl Jam are petitioning the
US Government to release a full list of music that has been used as a means of
torture in US prisons and military detention centres, CNN reports.
“We have spent the past 30 years supporting causes related to peace and justice.
To now learn that some of our friends’ music may have been used as part of the
torture tactics without their consent or knowledge is horrific,” R.E.M. said in
a statement.
“It's anti-American, period.”
The National Security Archive, who has filed a Freedom of Information request on
behalf of the artists, said they have approached several agencies within the US
Department of Defence to find out the names of all the artists whose music was used.
Their request asks for the disclosure of documents “concerning the use of loud
music during detention and/or as a technique to interrogate detainees at
US-operated prison facilities used in its War on Terror at Guantanamo, Iraq and
Afghanistan during 2002-the present.”
The Pentagon has not yet responded to allegations of torture involving music,
however Joint Task Force Guantanamo spokeswoman Maj. Diana Haynie says that loud
music has not been used at the detention centre since 2003.
Former Guantanamo detainee Ruhal Ahmed, one of several who has filed a lawsuit
against the US government, says that he was subjected to hours of music abuse.
“It's very scary to think that you might go crazy because of the music, because
of the loud noise.”
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Its a long way to the top
if you want to waterboard!
LOL!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.
"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude at his finest again.
"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott
"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""support\"@domainnames.com.au
."> wrote in message news:02f52e3a$0$1350$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
I like the fact that these rockers are fighting back. O no B makes it out as
though they are complacent in the torture. And it is torture, abuse and
those responsible should be punished. Human beings deserve to have at least
8 hours sleep. If you deny those basic rights you are a war criminal.
But not maids, eh? Its OK to rape and torture them, eh?
"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""support\"@domainnames.com.au
."> wrote in message news:006ed975$0$26875$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
Nope but that doesn't give us the right to torture people. Two wrongs don't
make a right.
What goes around comes around. Arselifters are yet to learn that.
"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""support\"@domainnames.com.au
."> wrote in message news:02f54f7a$0$1336$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
I say torture the bastards who tortured that woman. But don't torture some
low level taliban officer.
Why not? They aren't bound by the Geneva Convention and they certainly don't
abide by it.
I'll bet the Taliban muslime fuck wouldn't have any problems seeing
Seonie's
head removed.
Which ones, for instance should I go and murder all Christians for what
the Brethren are doing to destroy Australian families? Don't be a
hypocrite here. You're saying it's all or none, so explain that.
Fuck dude, do you even have a clue what you're saying? Every member of
the Taliban by definition deserves a bullet in the head, they're
extremist lunatics like pretzl, but you're thinking of insanely
different scenarios to what are being discussed.....
"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""support\"@domainnames.com.au
."> wrote in message news:006f084b$0$26944$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
Because we will be no better then they are. Why is it always bad when the
enemy tortures but never bad when we torture?
"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:bNqdnc2VD_NrYXjX...@westnet.com.au...
Torture is never justified. Torturing someone who can't defend themselves is
the most barbaric thing any society could do. It is barbaric when the
Muslims do it and barbaric when America does it.
And barbaric when the Christians do it, and barbaric when anyone does
it. But to be honest, in my opinion, if it saves 10,000 lives to torture
information out of one scumbag who is the incarnation of evil, and has
the information that will save those lives, I'm all for it. Political
correctness has gone too far, the ends DO justify the means in some cases.
Is that before or after they stone him?
Because when we do it, its justified. They do it in the name of allah as
commanded in the koran.
Where did I say "all or none"?
"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""support\"@domainnames.com.au
."> wrote in message news:006fd2cb$0$26887$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
Of course, God is on our side. It's bad when people say God is on their side
but it's good when we say it because God is on our side (same logic)
"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:QvGdnbzvUMlRg3vX...@westnet.com.au...
Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind that was justified
because it prevented more 911 attacks but come on, do you really believe
that some kid who was in the wrong place at the wrong time would know
anything about the next 911?
This has nothing to do with any alleged god.
> It's bad when people say God is on their
> side but it's good when we say it because God is on our side (same logic)
Whose side are you on? ;-)
"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""support\"@domainnames.com.au
."> wrote in message news:006fe971$0$26933$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
It's the same logic. You criticise the enemy for saying God is on their side
but secretly tell everyone God is really on our side. But it's with torture.
You say it's evil when the Muslims do it but justified when we do it. It
can't be both ways. It is either always evil or always good.
>> It's bad when people say God is on their side but it's good when we say
>> it because God is on our side (same logic)
>
> Whose side are you on? ;-)
>
My own. Screw God.
Move to a muslime pig fuck country then. Enjoy the tolerance and
freedom
of living in a pislamic state. I just hope they don't cut your cracker
head
off first.
"cornholio" <andx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2161919d-f2f3-409d...@j4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>>>>> �We have spent the past 30 years supporting causes related to
>> >>>>>>>>> peace and justice. To now learn that some of our friends� music
>> >>>>>>>>> may have been used as part of the torture tactics without their
>> >>>>>>>>> consent or knowledge is horrific,� R.E.M. said in a statement.
>>
>> >>>>>>>>> �It's anti-American, period.�
>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The National Security Archive, who has filed a Freedom of
>> >>>>>>>>> Information request on behalf of the artists, said they have
>> >>>>>>>>> approached several agencies within the US Department of Defence
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>> find out the names of all the artists whose music was used.
>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Their request asks for the disclosure of documents �concerning
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> use of loud music during detention and/or as a technique to
>> >>>>>>>>> interrogate detainees at US-operated prison facilities used in
>> >>>>>>>>> its
>> >>>>>>>>> War on Terror at Guantanamo, Iraq and Afghanistan during
>> >>>>>>>>> 2002-the
>> >>>>>>>>> present.�
>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The Pentagon has not yet responded to allegations of torture
>> >>>>>>>>> involving music, however Joint Task Force Guantanamo
>> >>>>>>>>> spokeswoman
>> >>>>>>>>> Maj. Diana Haynie says that loud music has not been used at the
>> >>>>>>>>> detention centre since 2003.
>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Former Guantanamo detainee Ruhal Ahmed, one of several who has
>> >>>>>>>>> filed a lawsuit against the US government, says that he was
>> >>>>>>>>> subjected to hours of music abuse.
>>
>> >>>>>>>>> �It's very scary to think that you might go crazy because of
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>> music, because of the loud noise.�
I have no idea what that has to do with what I said...
I can understand why arselifters would hate him. They prefer schoolgirls.
surf's up! real torture would be being forced to hear mohammed al
baikr and his port said orchestra..
That arselifter shit would drive anyone insane!
--
You're constantly referring to all Muslims. You seem incapable of
differentiating between one and the next, so why would you do so with
Christians or any other group unless you were being a hypocrite?
Re: Muslims..A man I knew, a US Army veteran told me "I've known good
ones and I've known bad ones. they're the same!"
<quote> [all] Arselifters are yet to learn that....</quote>
Wot kind of twot makes a statement and then tries to deny it? Do you
stand by what you say or don't you?
>> You're constantly referring to all Muslims. You seem incapable of
>> differentiating between one and the next, so why would you do so with
>> Christians or any other group unless you were being a hypocrite?
>
> Re: Muslims..A man I knew, a US Army veteran told me "I've known good
> ones and I've known bad ones. they're the same!"
So you're saying that your mate is unable to distinguish between good
and bad.
A boy in counselling told the world he only ever knew one christian
priest, pity he fucked him up the arse. You refer to one insane mussie
in a place with the population of the US, how about the hundreds of
these pedophile cunts in a place as small as Australia????
Christian pedophiles in Australia (something you can not find from any
other religion):
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,,26150812-2682,00.html
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-160713219.html
http://www.theage.com.au/national/lambasting-for-pedophile-priest-20090610-c3nw.html
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26013223-5006784,00.html
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/convicted-priest-still-serving/2008/06/21/1214009167391.html
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/pedophile-priest-sorry/story-e6frf7kx-1111113008658
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/bccrime.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page179-pavlou.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page180-current-court-cases.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page136-pidoto.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page128-gannon.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page124-odonnell.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page101-carroll.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page117-ryan.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page118-pickering.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page129-john-day.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page127-wilson.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page113-denham.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page122-dowlan.html
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page142-dyson.html
Fuck it, there's way too many pedophile priests to list them all
individually, find the full list here, well over 100 of them, seems
pretty normal for Christian priests to be sick fucks :
You'd be insane to think innocents aren't caught up in it, but if it
takes a bit of pain for a few innocents where there's a lot of pain for
a lot of guility, I'm all for it. Fuck, cops regularly beat the shit out
of people to get information about petty crap which does not justify
this sort of treatment. If people can get the crap beat out of them over
petty crap by cops without the public giving two-shits I think the world
can cop a bit of pain to avoid bombs that blow up hundreds if not thousands.
Not saying it's right, but there's a fuck of a lot better reason for
this shit happening over this than happens to citizens in every city of
the world every day under your radar at the hands of standard law
enforcement, with people shrugging and moving on to the next page of the
paper over their morning corn-flakes when the cops do get caught out.
"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:-OydnQ3pb9wrj2vX...@westnet.com.au...
I don't think torture can ever be justified. It is cowardly when the
terrorists Hamas do it and cowardly when the "good guys" (well compared to
Hamas America is the good guys) do it. It's also cowardly when police beat
suspects. Doing that to someone who can't defend him or her self is just
well...cowardly. But if we know the guy's are big in the terrorist cells I
wouldn't object to enhanced interrogation techniques.
> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind that was justified
> because it prevented more 911 attacks
It did no such thing.
1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times.
2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the cause.
"terryc" <newsnine...@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:hd5vju$d2l$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate torture but I don't know how
to debate that fact...
Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day?
Otherwise, you can start by using such easy words like
"prevention" of terrorist acts, as well as "better security"....
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I intend to last long enough to put out of business all COck-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.
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"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
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"_ G O D _" <DEM...@TELUS.NET> wrote in message
news:WsFJm.51986$PH1.28021@edtnps82...
> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote
> news:n4OdnX6C1KswGmvX...@westnet.com.au...
>>
>>
>> "terryc" <newsnine...@woa.com.au> wrote
>> news:hd5vju$d2l$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind
>>>> that was justified because it prevented more 911 attacks
>>>
>>> It did no such thing.
>>> 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times.
>>> 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the cause.
>>
>> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate
>> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact...
>
>
> Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day?
>
Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me rephrase
that.
In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been a terrorist attack
on American soil.
I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA
because
you're you live in AUS.
However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three acts of terrorism
(and others have been thwarted) including:
i. the Beltway Sniper killings
ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood
iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location)
iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters
v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
all of the above committed by muslimes in the name of
allah, bumhamamd and pislam.
Wake the fuck up.
There's lots more than that!
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm
> Wake the fuck up.
"cornholio" <andx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2e43dd78-d170-4f40...@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
I can't argue with those facts but it is still true that there hasn't been a
terrorist attack as terrible as 911.
> v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
>
Where is the evidence this happened? If it wasn't for Sirhan-Sirhan we
wouldn't know Dick Cheyney was willing to blow up boats and blame it on
Iran. So please provide evidence.
"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com
."> wrote in message news:00811837$0$26850$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
As I said I meant on the scale of 911. But how many has the FBI prevented?
What? Are you doubting that Sirhan Sirhan shot RFK?
> If it wasn't for Sirhan-Sirhan we
> wouldn't know Dick Cheyney was willing to blow up boats and blame it on
> Iran.
Oh Seon, I didn't know you started smoking crack.
> So please provide evidence.
I see a lot of evidence you've cracked up.
>
> > all of the above committed by muslimes in the name of
> > allah, bumhamamd and pislam.
> >
> > Wake the fuck up.
>
>
>
>
--
BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
And now, you've successfully debated your own words,
by admitting that prevention in being alert and vigilant
works better than any torture as you've insisted before.
In fact, torture can provoke the terrorist acts rather than
preventing them - as well as to reduce trust in authority....
"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:taidnT_8w_c8AmrX...@westnet.com.au...
Oops I got this mixed up. I was thinking of this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r29BtzfSz0o I'm sure BDK will quote me on
this later. I forgot to take out alt.conspiracy
But I will ask why you omitted the woman in the yellow dress and the people
who said "We killed him" after RFK was killed. Excuse the mix up. BDK
probably won't.
"_ G O D _" <DEM...@TELUS.NET> wrote in message
news:EONJm.51197$Db2.35971@edtnps83...
And information under torture can't be taken seriously.
Gutlessness of the so-called christian cowardly cunts (CCC) towards
that Samaritan Rabbid Jews 'invented Islam is the cause of it all !
in any case the whole team of JIC ( judeo-islamo-christian) sects are
all Jews invented :
Present Mad Jews derived from the Rabbid Pharisees
Present Mad Islamists derived from the Rabbid Samaritans
Present Mad Xians derived from the Rabbid Zealots
WELLDONE INDEED ON ONLY AT THIS PRICE WILL YOU START TO UNDERSTAND
WHAT THOSE JIC SECTS ARE ABOUT ...
...all the more since their views on the True History of Mankind & of
our Universe are completely lunatic, demonstrating that there is not
an ounce of wisdom in their alleged prophet nor any ounce of Divine
Wisdom in their unending braying to walls or to idols
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Founder of the True Geology
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, Hijack a plane,
Hijack a ship, ............ Practice all those and you too could
become a prophet !!
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
arah...@gmail.com
kaled...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
niy...@msn.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
niy...@hotmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
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‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
이슬람의 성기를 빨아 당나귀 -
الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الشرج ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
kaled...@gmail.com
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
mehya...@hotmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
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\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
\ \
Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
** Posted from LINKdotNET -Jordan **
http://www.link.net
Cybertrust Australia Pty Ltd
Fastlink, Jordan
‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)›moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah
were child molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ab8hlafT770nZGR6cHZqOThfMHhwY2szYmc0&hl=en
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Thomas Santa - tsa...@med.usyd.edu.au
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
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fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
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islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
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/'/ / / /" /_\
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
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/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
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'\' _.7'
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
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/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
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'\' _.7'
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
_
/'_/)
,/_ /
/ /
/'_'/' '/'__'7,
/'/ / / /" /_\
('( ' /' ')
\ /
'\' _.7'
\ (
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
helpi...@gmail.com
fes...@wn.apc.org
nextsapr...@gmail.com
in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com
arah...@gmail.com
islamwa...@googlegroups.com
furti...@gmail.com
Wassim Noujeim = Faris Jawad
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Wassim Noujeim (shitskin moslem Faris Jawad) left Canada to attend a
terrorist training camp in Jordan, and he spent his last nigh in Canda
at this hotel : MONTREAL-AIRPORT,,6500 COTE DE LIESSE,MONTREAL, QC
H4T1E3 CANADA,Hotel Front Desk: 1-514-7393391 :::: Shitskin moslem,
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‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)› Did you know? - bestiality is entrenched in the mozlim
cult - even the false profit mohammed had his harem of favourite goats
and camels. ‹(•¿•)› ‹(•¿•)› __
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الإسلام يأخذ الحمار القضيب في الش
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Wait until two thousand or so Australians are killed
by islamopig terrorism and get back to me.
Well, if the pigs were doing the job of stopping and
preventing the crime properly, instead of harassing
innocent motorists by ticketing them for driving few
miles over the speed limit, none of that would have
happened, including the 911, sniping and shooting,
kidnapping, and gang-banging behind the schools....
Becasue pigs are quite aware that torturing people
is not only completely pointless in preventing crime,
but it's a crime in itself. Therefore, pigs should lose
their jobs, for torturing and beating up on people in
violation of their Human Rights, and never allowed
to live in the state, where they tortured their victims.....
regardless of how much they are torturing
innocent people,
--
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You're excused, mostly because you cracked me up. A
good laugh generates a lot of credit..
I'd have used Korean television, played at peak volume. To anyone not
used to it, the dissonance is maddening..
The Culture War:
Israel Line - Friday, June 10, 2005
Thousands Participate in Gay Pride Parade in Tel Aviv.
Thousands of people took to the streets of Tel Aviv this
afternoon to participate in the city's annual gay pride parade,
HA'ARETZ reported. The parade set out from Rabin Square and was to end
in Yarkon Park, where musical performances were planned.
MKs Yosef Lapid (Shinui), Eitan Cabel (Labor) and Zehava Gal-On
(Yahad), as well as Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai, were set to speak at
the event.
The chairman of the national Association of Gay Men, Lesbians,
Bisexuals and Transgender in Israel, Mike Hamel, said today the parade
was organized with the "close cooperation" of the Tel Aviv
municipality. "It's great to see it, and great that it's one of the
few places in the world that has the support of a municipal body, a
government body," he said.
Hamel said the event is called a "pride parade," because it has
to do with "being proud of the way we are and the demand to accept
every person as a person, as he is, and not trying to change him."
Full story:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/586950.html
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http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/1122-03.htm
Iran: Two More Executions for Homosexual Conduct
NEW YORK - November 22 -
Iran's execution of two men last week for homosexual conduct
highlights a
pattern of persecution of gay men that stands in stark violation of
the rights
to life and privacy, Human Rights Watch said today. On Sunday,
November 13, the semi-official Tehran daily Kayhan reported that the
Iranian
government publicly hung two men, Mokhtar N. (24 years old) and Ali A.
(25 years old), in the Shahid Bahonar Square of the northern town of
Gorgan. The government reportedly executed the two men for the crime
of "lavat." Iran's shari'a-based penal code defines lavat as
penetrative and non-penetrative sexual acts between men. Iranian law
punishes all penetrative sexual acts between adult men with the death
penalty.
Non-penetrative sexual acts between men are punished with lashes until
the fourth offense, when they are punished with death�
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NEA, Gay Militants: Joined At The Hip
Lee Duigon
If a private citizen tells his neighbor's children that they ought to
try gay sex, he might wind up in a correctional facility. If he talks
that way to your 13-year-old son, you'll want him put away-pronto.
But when this very same behavior, toward the same children, is
displayed by adults who belong to America's biggest teachers' union,
most parents simply let them do it. In fact, they pay them to.
The NEA is committed to the cause of militant homosexuality. It's the
richest, most politically powerful union in America, and it has daily
access to most of America's children. And it wants to recruit them for
the homosexual lifestyle.
Lean this equation, America:
Public schools=The homosexual agenda
If you don't believe it, visit nea-glc.org/, the website of the
National Education Association's Gay and Lesbian Coalition. There,
among their "great achievements" in shaping NEA policy, the homosexual
militants cite the NEA's promotion of "the lesbian-gay-bisexual
curriculum" and "family life education... regarding the diversity of
sexual orientation."
The NEA has also campaigned for the proclamation of
"Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transsexual History Month" (try putting that on
a T-shirt), homosexual studies at Catholic colleges--and, of course,
homosexual "marriage."
The people of Massachusetts know the teachers' union's commitment to
"gay marriage." Aline Isaacson of GLSEN (Gay-Lesbian-Straight
Education Network), the media's favorite poster gal for "gay
marriage", is also--surprise!-a paid consultant to the Massachusetts
teachers' union. Paid in taxpayer dollars, to boot. (You may remember
Massachusetts GLSEN from a few years ago as the organizers of graphic,
intensely perverted sex "workshops" for public school children--a
scandal that came to be known as "fist-gate.")
Ms. Isaacson, according to the grass-roots Article 8 Alliance, these
days makes it a full-time job lobbying state legislators to keep them
from jumping ship on "gay marriage" and voting for the Bill of Address
which would remove the outlaw Supreme Judicial Court judges who
imposed this oxymoron on the people of Massachusetts. Supported by
taxpayers' money, she makes daily, face-to-face visits to individual
lawmakers. Nice work if you can get it.
Too bad you couldn't make it to the gym teachers' state convention in
New Jersey, in February. It wasn't about volleyball. For public school
gym teachers, Job One--according to the convention's floor displays,
handouts, posters, and workshop topics (all of which I saw
personally)--is getting the kids comfy with homosexuality. To this
end, they handed out a "resource guide"--handsomely produced, slick,
paid for largely by Fleet Bank
Inc.--intended for distribution in all the public schools. (For more
information, see my article, "Now It's the Gym Teachers," in the
February archive of the Chalcedon website, chalcedon.edu.)
You would have seen even more of the same at "Twenty Years of Great
Sex (Ed)" last year, a national conference of "sex educators" hosted
by Rutgers, New Jersey's taxpayer-funded state university. Again,
there was no effort to hide the educators' whole-hearted penchant for
homosexuality...
http://www.ihr.org/ www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/
http://www.natvan.com http://www.nsm88.org
http://heretical.com/ http://immigration-globalization.blogspot.com/
"Gary Renzetti" <liz...@connection.com> wrote in message
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I'll have to do that because why would a Muslim who hates war want to
assassinate a anti war candidate? RFK was the best hope for someone who
wouldn't let Israel get away with what it's doing.
"cornholio" <andx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I will say the same thing. I won't trust information obtained under torture
at all.
"_ G O D _" <DEM...@TELUS.NET> wrote in message
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> "cornholio" <andx...@gmail.com> wrote
> news:3b4fbe20-9b7e-4aa3...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "_ G O D _" wrote
>>> news:EONJm.51197$Db2.35971@edtnps83...
>>>
>>>
>>> > And now, you've successfully debated your own words,
>>> > by admitting that prevention in being alert and vigilant
>>> > works better than any torture as you've insisted before.
>>>
>>> > In fact, torture can provoke the terrorist acts rather than
>>> > preventing them - as well as to reduce trust in authority....
>>> > --
>>>
>>> And information under torture can't be taken seriously.
>>>
>>
>> Wait until two thousand or so Australians are killed
>> by islamopig terrorism and get back to me.
>
> Well, if the pigs were doing the job of stopping and
> preventing the crime properly, instead of harassing
> innocent motorists by ticketing them for driving few
> miles over the speed limit, none of that would have
> happened, including the 911, sniping and shooting,
> kidnapping, and gang-banging behind the schools....
>
By the way they harassed innocent Muslims yet let the Binladens fly out of
America a few days after 911. I mean come on.
"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b51hf513ndf6cjmvf...@4ax.com...
> the fourth offense, when they are punished with death.
I can imagine.
--
Fuck you Seon. Christians have rights too. Their religious beliefs are
that Buggery is a sin and very nasty. I however also feel that it is
nasty and AIDs should send even an idiot like you a message.
You are of course not aware that studies have proven that Homosexuality
is not Genetic. It is apparently a chosen lifestyle. I recommend that
you stop shoveling your massive ignorance on net and go get a real job.
"Alexander" <Alex...@thegreat.org> wrote in message
news:7ls4u6F...@mid.individual.net...
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>> Um troll neocons are Christians who would love to take gay rights away.
>> Now go back to hating gay people troll.
>
>
> Fuck you Seon. Christians have rights too. Their religious beliefs are
> that Buggery is a sin and very nasty. I however also feel that it is nasty
> and AIDs should send even an idiot like you a message.
>>
Go kill yourself troll. Christians do not have the right to take away gay
rights. Well you got what you wanted, a reaction out of me. Now go back to
hating gay people.
"Majd al-Din" <Is...@Sucks.com> wrote in message
news:7ls52kF...@mid.individual.net...
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>> Um troll neocons are Christians who would love to take gay rights away.
>> Now go back to hating gay people troll.
>
> You are of course not aware that studies have proven that Homosexuality is
> not Genetic. It is apparently a chosen lifestyle. I recommend that you
> stop shoveling your massive ignorance on net and go get a real job.
>>
You are the one who is ignorant. People can not control their sexuality. I
can't control liking women's legs as much as a gay guy can control being
gay. Yeah I'm a pervert I know...But if I could help it I would.
"Alexander" <Alex...@thegreat.org> wrote in message
news:7ls4u6F...@mid.individual.net...
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>> Um troll neocons are Christians who would love to take gay rights away.
>> Now go back to hating gay people troll.
>
>
> Fuck you Seon. Christians have rights too. Their religious beliefs are
> that Buggery is a sin and very nasty. I however also feel that it is nasty
> and AIDs should send even an idiot like you a message.
>>
Ok here's what I should have said instead of letting you bait me into an
emotional response. You go on about how Christians should have rights and
have the right to call homosexuality a perversion or say how gay people will
go to hell but by spreading that ignorance and hatred they are just teaching
another generation to hate gay people. Why don't you so called libertarians
ever speak out about the right for people to come out of the closet without
fear of being beaten up just because of their sexuality? Why don't you
"Libertarians" ever speak out for the right of a gay couple to have the same
rights a straight couple has? Ok I don't mean gay marriage. You can call it
something else if two people who love each other getting married offends you
so much. But why is it always hateful Christians who should have the right
to preach their ignorance?
And as I said no one can control their sexuality. They do choose to perform
homosexual acts but they cannot choose to have homosexual urges. I know I
would gladly change my leg fetish for a boob fetish. Well I have a boob
fetish but I want to be like normal guys and I have tried everything. So
yeah you can't control your sexuality.
Oh and I would also like to debunk your ignorance on aids. Straight people
get aids as well. Implying that you hope I get aids just because I support
gay rights proves how hateful you are.
Let the faggots start their own country. Israel might be a good
spot for them to cloister. You can accompany them.
Yawn... You are really a boring twit. Bugger off.. Heh! Heh! By the way
thats how your kind gets AIDs...Buggery!
Thats crapola. You spend all your time here. Hell you probably don't
even know what a woman looks like. Can you even remember getting laid? Ever?
> What would the
> neocon bootlickers of Jews be saying if a Muslim country did that?
They would decry that country's moral decay.
Michael
* I came across your most interesting articles and find myself in
agreement with what you say.
I think the views expressed and articles written are incisive and to
the point in that respect.
Look forward to hearing from you,
Michael
>Um troll neocons are Christians who would love to take gay rights away. Now
>go back to hating gay people troll.
Rather than saying "hating gay people" you should write "opposed to
the cocksuckers".
"Now I'll tell you about another case involving murder and
homosexuals that I'm certain you haven't heard about, unless you
happen to live in northwestern Arkansas and you read the newspapers
there carefully. Less than three weeks ago, on September 26, two adult
homosexuals in the town of Rogers, Arkansas, grabbed a 13-year-old boy
off the street, took him to their apartment, drugged him, and tied him
up and gagged him so that no one could hear his screams, and then they
raped him to death. His body was found in a pool of blood on the
apartment floor.
The 13-year-old boy was Jesse Dirkhising. That's D-i-r-k-h-i-s-i-n-g.
The two adult homosexuals are Davis Don Carpenter and Joshua Macave
Brown, each charged with capital murder and six counts of forcible
rape. I mention these names to help you search for information about
this
horrible crime on the Internet, so that you can verify for yourself
what I'm telling you. Try the Internet site of The Morning News of
Northwestern Arkansas, the local newspaper there, which has been
virtually the only newspaper to carry news of the murder.
As I said, this vicious rape and murder of an innocent child by two
adult homosexuals occurred less than three weeks ago, and it's been
totally blacked out of the national news, while the beating death of
homosexual Matthew Shepard, who made the mistake of looking for a date
in the wrong bar, is still receiving national news coverage every day
more than a year after it happened.
Why? I'll tell you. It's because other groups in this country want it
this way. No individual in America has the power to black out the news
of the homosexual rape and murder of 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising. And
no individual has the power to give the enormous, non-stop national
coverage to the beating of Matthew Shepard that we are seeing. This
is the result of a collective decision--a racial decision--by the jews
who control the news media in America. The message the jews want to
send to White Americans is that homosexuals are innocent victims and
heterosexual White males are aggressors who prey on them. And so they
give us the news which fits that message, and they black out the news
which doesn't.
I mean, really, think about it. Which is the more newsworthy crime:
the beating to death of Matthew Shepard by two men he approached for a
date; or the kidnaping and raping to death of 13-year-old Jesse
Dirkhising by two adult homosexuals? The jews do this manipulation and
distortion of the news for a reason: a collective reason, a racial
reason. And it's working. Idiot White women and idiot White Christians
are joining the homosexuals around the country in even more
candlelight vigils in memory of Matthew Shepard. But there will never
be a candlelight vigil for Jesse Dirkhising. No one will ever hear
about Jesse Dirkhising--except those of you reading this now."
Ed Kadach
Israel Line - Friday, June 10, 2005
Thousands Participate in Gay Pride Parade in Tel Aviv.
Thousands of people took to the streets of Tel Aviv this
afternoon to participate in the city's annual gay pride parade,
HA'ARETZ reported. The parade set out from Rabin Square and was to end
in Yarkon Park, where musical performances were planned.
MKs Yosef Lapid (Shinui), Eitan Cabel (Labor) and Zehava Gal-On
(Yahad), as well as Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai, were set to speak at
the event.
The chairman of the national Association of Gay Men, Lesbians,
Bisexuals and Transgender in Israel, Mike Hamel, said today the parade
was organized with the "close cooperation" of the Tel Aviv
municipality. "It's great to see it, and great that it's one of the
few places in the world that has the support of a municipal body, a
government body," he said.
Hamel said the event is called a "pride parade," because it has
to do with "being proud of the way we are and the demand to accept
every person as a person, as he is, and not trying to change him."
Full story:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/586950.html
By 1992, lesbian and gay activists had succeeded in getting the
Knesset to amend Israel's Equal Workplace Opportunities Law to outlaw
discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
In 1993, the Israeli military rescinded its few regulations
discriminating against gays and lesbians. And in 1994, the Israeli
Supreme Court ordered El Al Israel Airlines to grant a free plane
ticket to the partner of a gay flight attendant, as the airline had
long done for heterosexual partners of employees.
http://www.thegully.com/essays/gaymundo/020220_gay_israel_history.html
Thanks for the encouraging post!
"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com
."> wrote in message news:0307903a$0$1364$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>
>> "Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com ."> wrote in
>> message news:00811837$0$26850$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>> cornholio wrote:
>>>> On Nov 8, 6:57 pm, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "_ G O D _" <DEMI...@TELUS.NET> wrote in
>>>>> messagenews:WsFJm.51986$PH1.28021@edtnps82...
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> news:n4OdnX6C1KswGmvX...@westnet.com.au...
>>>>>>> "terryc" <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote
>>>>>>> news:hd5vju$d2l$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ok when you tortured people like the 911 mastermind
>>>>>>>>> that was justified because it prevented more 911 attacks
>>>>>>>> It did no such thing.
>>>>>>>> 1) He had already publicly admitted his involvement many times.
>>>>>>>> 2) Torture by the western allies just brings more people to the
>>>>>>>> cause.
>>>>>>> Yeah but another 911 has not happened. I hate
>>>>>>> torture but I don't know how to debate that fact...
>>>>>> Do you mean the attack didn't happen on the same day?
>>>>> Ok since 911 consisted of 4 hijackings by Muslim extremists let me
>>>>> rephrase that.
>>>>> In 8 years since the day after 911 there has never been a terrorist
>>>>> attack on American soil.
>>>>
>>>> I'll forgive your ignorance of muslime pig terrorism in the USA
>>>> because you live in AUS.
>>>>
>>>> However, muslime fucks HAVE committed at least three acts of terrorism
>>>> (and others have been thwarted) including:
>>>>
>>>> i. the Beltway Sniper killings
>>>> ii. the recent shooting of unarmed US soldiers at Fort Hood
>>>> iii. the imam shootout (I forget the location)
>>>> iv. the shooting of unarmed US Army recruiters
>>>> v. the shooting of Robert F. Kennedy by Sirhan-Sirhan
>>>>
>>>> all of the above committed by muslimes in the name of
>>>> allah, bumhamamd and pislam.
>>>
>>> There's lots more than that!
>>>
>>> http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm
>>>
>> As I said I meant on the scale of 911. But how many has the FBI
>> prevented?
>
> Here's a recent one -
>
> http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/yb/137066519
>
And there is many more...
> --
"Alexander" <Alex...@thegreat.org> wrote in message
news:7lsurrF3...@mid.individual.net...
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alexander" <Alex...@thegreat.org> wrote in message
>> news:7ls4u6F...@mid.individual.net...
>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>> Um troll neocons are Christians who would love to take gay rights away.
>>>> Now go back to hating gay people troll.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fuck you Seon. Christians have rights too. Their religious beliefs are
>>> that Buggery is a sin and very nasty. I however also feel that it is
>>> nasty and AIDs should send even an idiot like you a message.
>>>>
>> Go kill yourself troll. Christians do not have the right to take away gay
>> rights. Well you got what you wanted, a reaction out of me. Now go back
>> to hating gay people.
>
>
> Let the faggots start their own country. Israel might be a good
> spot for them to cloister. You can accompany them.
>>
An anti Semite and a homophobe. You must be a hit with the ladies.
"Alexander" <Alex...@thegreat.org> wrote in message
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Yeah yeah tell it to someone who doesn't know what a idiot troll you are.
"Majd al-Din" <Is...@Sucks.com> wrote in message
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> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Majd al-Din" <Is...@Sucks.com> wrote in message
>> news:7ls52kF...@mid.individual.net...
>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>> Um troll neocons are Christians who would love to take gay rights away.
>>>> Now go back to hating gay people troll.
>>>
>>> You are of course not aware that studies have proven that Homosexuality
>>> is not Genetic. It is apparently a chosen lifestyle. I recommend that
>>> you stop shoveling your massive ignorance on net and go get a real job.
>>>>
>> You are the one who is ignorant. People can not control their sexuality.
>> I can't control liking women's legs as much as a gay guy can control
>> being gay. Yeah I'm a pervert I know...But if I could help it I would.
>
> Thats crapola. You spend all your time here. Hell you probably don't even
> know what a woman looks like. Can you even remember getting laid? Ever?
>>
Well I've done stuff with women but not getting laid. I want to wait for the
right woman.
"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:19:00 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Um troll neocons are Christians who would love to take gay rights away.
>>Now
>>go back to hating gay people troll.
>
> Rather than saying "hating gay people" you should write "opposed to
> the cocksuckers".
>
So you don't like sluts then? Oh well, your loss.
>On Nov 9, 11:08�pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> �The USA is having homosexually perverted marriages. What would the
>> neocon bootlickers of Jews be saying if a Muslim country did that?
>>
http://www.utopia-asia.com/tipsindo.htm
Advisory: Various kinds of sexualities are an integral part of
Indonesia's cultural mosaic. Many married men and women may also
maintain same-sex relationships. Indonesia's first Gay Pride
celebration took place in Surabaya, on June 25, 1999.
Now that's not only sick but pure evil!
--
The only chance you've got it to at least pretend to be a godder and
join a church, one of the real bible-thumping ones. You'll be married in
a year...
--
BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
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I'd rather a girlfriend who shares my beliefs. I'm sure I'm bound to find
women who believe in Psychics somewhere. And Bible thumper chicks won't be
into the kinky stuff. At least before marriage.
You got no brain, Antipodean Sons of Bitch & Convict Rabble indeed, as
that fraudulent Geology taught in your fucking Universilities
indicate ... and your Greed & Grabbing Ideals are well illustrated in
those Whorehouses aka Parliaments such as the West Australia in Perth
& Feral Parliament in Canberra, where decency is kicked in the teeth
a 1000s times a day & where gutlessness has become a way of life !
What honourzzz can such shithouses ever bestow except to the like of
them ... and this why the Newmont / Newcrest / BHP are so intent on
receiving Official Recognition at long last as well as for the Mining
Hero Daave Tyrwhitt ! Official recognition which has been postponed
for nearly 40 years now by that congregation of West Australia
shitheads aka MPs sitting on their fat arses in the noted WA
Whorehouse closed to the rightly gutted down Kings Park. It should be
due anytime soon as Tyrwhitt* is probably going to cark it soon since
affected by some nervous disorder likely to put that fraudulent greedy
dog out of misery for its ( sic its) Crimes
WHAT A HELL ON EARTH IS THAT ANTIPODEAN TOADLAND INDEED.... and what
a cross to bear in life to have rendered such immense service to such
abominable degenerate Convict Rabble in their infamous Convict
Colony
* Note
"I spotted the site from the air and landed nearby in the Desert to
take samples" as in the Mining Manure' official report This is what is
most impressive to that congregation of parasites of the WA
Whorehouse ... those clueless imbeciles see so much merit in an
obviously easy & flawless way to explain the discovery of the 3 Great
Sandy Desert Major Mining Discoveries indeed
No regards
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~
for background info.
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm
"True Geology" Foundation Document
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69327
"Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107947
How true!
That's not very likely to happen.
> I'm sure I'm bound to find women who believe in Psychics somewhere.
You believe in psychic now? Holy shit, you're a walking and talking,
"Take me to the cleaners" sign! My dogs have more sense than you.
> And Bible thumper chicks won't be into the kinky stuff.
What kind of kinky are you talking about?
> At least before marriage.
You aren't getting any now, what makes you think it's going to change
without a major change on your part? I think if you did join a church,
you would eventually become a believer. I don't think you could resist
the call of the kookside, and it would help you get laid, so you would
just roll with the insanity.
"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.256441b07...@news.buckeye-express.com...
Yep I saw John Edward in Sydney on Saturday. He even answered my question
and his answer convinced me he is the real deal. That and he only got 2 or 3
things wrong in 2 hours. That isn't bad.
>Holy shit, you're a walking and talking,
> "Take me to the cleaners" sign! My dogs have more sense than you.
>
>
Actually no because I realise we don't need a Psychic to connect with our
loved one's who crossed over. And we also don't need a Psychic to tell us
our future. Our future is up to us. WE are in control of our future. Not
some phone Psychic who costs $5 a minute. (And more on mobiles)
>> And Bible thumper chicks won't be into the kinky stuff.
>
> What kind of kinky are you talking about?
>
The kind of kinky that would make a church chick think I'm a freak (it's
with a woman don't worry)
>> At least before marriage.
>
> You aren't getting any now, what makes you think it's going to change
> without a major change on your part? I think if you did join a church,
> you would eventually become a believer. I don't think you could resist
> the call of the kookside, and it would help you get laid, so you would
> just roll with the insanity.
>
I don't think so. My view of the soul is different to church goers. I also
believe in Reincarnation and I just don't think I'll be able to give that
up. I also don't believe in hell as I don't believe our true self's (soul's)
can't feel any pain. I guess I could pretend to believe Jesus was God and
that all you evil unbelievers are going to hell but I just can't lie to
myself.
But I'm sure a girl who shares my views is out there.
And I think it's going to change because I have a new confidence and
positive attitude that I didn't have before. You may think I need to change
my external circumstances but I also have to change myself. That is an even
bigger change: Change thyself.
No one is moaning because America once fought the British. But
suddenly Jews can not be the enemy under any circumstances. Why is
that? Because the Jews control the media. Think outside the box.
Now that America is ruled by the Jews it is no insult to be called
"anti-Semite". The insult is that they think we care about their self
serving verbiage.
The Jewish controlled media said the French were "cheese eating
surrender monkeys". Why can't the French howl "anti-French" like the
Jews howl "anti-Semite"? Because the French don't control the media,
Jews do.
This is what President Nixon said:
http://www.hnn.us/comments/15664.html
"There may be some truth in that if the Arabs have some complaints
about my policy towards Israel, they have to realize that the Jews in
the U.S. control the entire information and propaganda machine, the
large newspapers, the motion pictures, radio and television, and the
big companies. And there is a force that we have to take into
consideration."
Real men don't suck cock.
Leave no stone unthrown.
"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e25lf51itbgp44h2q...@4ax.com...
"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mb5lf59cvnmhk15c7...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:46:45 +1030, Surfer <n...@spam.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:57:12 -0800 (PST), Firnando
>><geovani_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Nov 9, 11:08 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The USA is having homosexually perverted marriages. What would the
>>>> neocon bootlickers of Jews be saying if a Muslim country did that?
>>>>
>>
>>http://www.utopia-asia.com/tipsindo.htm
>>
>>Advisory: Various kinds of sexualities are an integral part of
>>Indonesia's cultural mosaic. Many married men and women may also
>>maintain same-sex relationships. Indonesia's first Gay Pride
>>celebration took place in Surabaya, on June 25, 1999.
>>
> Real men don't suck cock.
>
Gay people are more man then a hater like you will ever be.
Spoken like a real full blown Faggot, Seon.
"Majd al-Din" <Is...@Sucks.com> wrote in message
news:7lvl5qF...@mid.individual.net...
> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:mb5lf59cvnmhk15c7...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:46:45 +1030, Surfer <n...@spam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:57:12 -0800 (PST), Firnando
>>>> <geovani_t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 9, 11:08 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> The USA is having homosexually perverted marriages. What would the
>>>>>> neocon bootlickers of Jews be saying if a Muslim country did that?
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.utopia-asia.com/tipsindo.htm
>>>>
>>>> Advisory: Various kinds of sexualities are an integral part of
>>>> Indonesia's cultural mosaic. Many married men and women may also
>>>> maintain same-sex relationships. Indonesia's first Gay Pride
>>>> celebration took place in Surabaya, on June 25, 1999.
>>>>
>>> Real men don't suck cock.
>>>
>> Gay people are more man then a hater like you will ever be.
>
> Spoken like a real full blown Faggot, Seon.
>>
Lol you gay bashers crack me up. Because I don't hate gay people like you do
oooh I must be gay.
Of course, real men are not Nazi nithings either. What would you
know about being a real man?
Michael
Oh boy. You just keep on fallin' for the hooey...
>
> >Holy shit, you're a walking and talking,
> > "Take me to the cleaners" sign! My dogs have more sense than you.
> >
> >
> Actually no because I realise we don't need a Psychic to connect with our
> loved one's who crossed over. And we also don't need a Psychic to tell us
> our future. Our future is up to us. WE are in control of our future. Not
> some phone Psychic who costs $5 a minute. (And more on mobiles)
Why are you capitalizing psychic?
>
> >> And Bible thumper chicks won't be into the kinky stuff.
> >
> > What kind of kinky are you talking about?
> >
> The kind of kinky that would make a church chick think I'm a freak (it's
> with a woman don't worry)
>
> >> At least before marriage.
> >
> > You aren't getting any now, what makes you think it's going to change
> > without a major change on your part? I think if you did join a church,
> > you would eventually become a believer. I don't think you could resist
> > the call of the kookside, and it would help you get laid, so you would
> > just roll with the insanity.
> >
> I don't think so. My view of the soul is different to church goers. I also
> believe in Reincarnation and I just don't think I'll be able to give that
> up. I also don't believe in hell as I don't believe our true self's (soul's)
> can't feel any pain. I guess I could pretend to believe Jesus was God and
> that all you evil unbelievers are going to hell but I just can't lie to
> myself.
It's your choice. You'd better just hope reincarnation is true, or
you're likely to end up screwed. Why are you capitalizing reincarnation?
> But I'm sure a girl who shares my views is out there.
You're in a country with a small population, so you don't have the huge
numbers of candidates for Seon's dream girl.
> And I think it's going to change because I have a new confidence and
> positive attitude that I didn't have before. You may think I need to change
> my external circumstances but I also have to change myself. That is an even
> bigger change: Change thyself.
>
Have fun with your latest fantasies.
......<snip>....redundant crap has been carefully removed.................
I like your story, but I'm sure you don't have any problem
in coming up with some names, to prove your assertion
about the sectarian denomination of "media controllers,"
considering the fact that their names cannot be a secret....
--
_____________________________________________________
I intend to last long enough to put out of business all COck-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.
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"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
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"BDK" <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote in message
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You'd say the same if you saw him live. But hey I don't want to shove my
beliefs down your throat. If you don't want to believe that's ok. It's not
like your going to hell or anything.
>> >Holy shit, you're a walking and talking,
>> > "Take me to the cleaners" sign! My dogs have more sense than you.
>> >
>> >
>> Actually no because I realise we don't need a Psychic to connect with our
>> loved one's who crossed over. And we also don't need a Psychic to tell us
>> our future. Our future is up to us. WE are in control of our future. Not
>> some phone Psychic who costs $5 a minute. (And more on mobiles)
>
> Why are you capitalizing psychic?
>
>>
Well it's a belief system like saying Witch or something, right?
>> >> And Bible thumper chicks won't be into the kinky stuff.
>> >
>> > What kind of kinky are you talking about?
>> >
>> The kind of kinky that would make a church chick think I'm a freak (it's
>> with a woman don't worry)
>>
>> >> At least before marriage.
>> >
>> > You aren't getting any now, what makes you think it's going to change
>> > without a major change on your part? I think if you did join a church,
>> > you would eventually become a believer. I don't think you could resist
>> > the call of the kookside, and it would help you get laid, so you would
>> > just roll with the insanity.
>> >
>> I don't think so. My view of the soul is different to church goers. I
>> also
>> believe in Reincarnation and I just don't think I'll be able to give that
>> up. I also don't believe in hell as I don't believe our true self's
>> (soul's)
>> can't feel any pain. I guess I could pretend to believe Jesus was God and
>> that all you evil unbelievers are going to hell but I just can't lie to
>> myself.
>
> It's your choice. You'd better just hope reincarnation is true, or
> you're likely to end up screwed. Why are you capitalizing reincarnation?
>
Again it's a belief. And I am 100% convinced I have had past lives as I
can't explain away the many cases. Like the case of Benjamin whatshis name
(it's on youtube and i can't remember his last name)
>> But I'm sure a girl who shares my views is out there.
>
> You're in a country with a small population, so you don't have the huge
> numbers of candidates for Seon's dream girl.
>
But I'm in a capital city. The capital city of Australia. And with the
Internet I have a better chance of finding my soulmate online. I am willing
to relocate to Sydney or Melbourne and I might have to because the
theosophical society is big in those cities.
>> And I think it's going to change because I have a new confidence and
>> positive attitude that I didn't have before. You may think I need to
>> change
>> my external circumstances but I also have to change myself. That is an
>> even
>> bigger change: Change thyself.
>>
>
> Have fun with your latest fantasies.
>
Changing myself for the better is a fantasy?
"Topaz" <mars...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com
."> wrote in message news:030a893c$0$1271$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
That sounds like a saying in the Koran or Torah.
I highly doubt I would say the same thing. After all, I've seen a ton of
psychics over the last 50 years or so, and most, if not all of their
"answers" can easily be explained.
>
> >> >Holy shit, you're a walking and talking,
> >> > "Take me to the cleaners" sign! My dogs have more sense than you.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Actually no because I realise we don't need a Psychic to connect with our
> >> loved one's who crossed over. And we also don't need a Psychic to tell us
> >> our future. Our future is up to us. WE are in control of our future. Not
> >> some phone Psychic who costs $5 a minute. (And more on mobiles)
> >
> > Why are you capitalizing psychic?
> >
> >>
> Well it's a belief system like saying Witch or something, right?
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! WTF is wrong with you?
>
> >> >> And Bible thumper chicks won't be into the kinky stuff.
> >> >
> >> > What kind of kinky are you talking about?
> >> >
> >> The kind of kinky that would make a church chick think I'm a freak (it's
> >> with a woman don't worry)
> >>
> >> >> At least before marriage.
> >> >
> >> > You aren't getting any now, what makes you think it's going to change
> >> > without a major change on your part? I think if you did join a church,
> >> > you would eventually become a believer. I don't think you could resist
> >> > the call of the kookside, and it would help you get laid, so you would
> >> > just roll with the insanity.
> >> >
> >> I don't think so. My view of the soul is different to church goers. I
> >> also
> >> believe in Reincarnation and I just don't think I'll be able to give that
> >> up. I also don't believe in hell as I don't believe our true self's
> >> (soul's)
> >> can't feel any pain. I guess I could pretend to believe Jesus was God and
> >> that all you evil unbelievers are going to hell but I just can't lie to
> >> myself.
> >
> > It's your choice. You'd better just hope reincarnation is true, or
> > you're likely to end up screwed. Why are you capitalizing reincarnation?
> >
> Again it's a belief. And I am 100% convinced I have had past lives as I
> can't explain away the many cases.
I worked with a guy who claimed to have past lives too. He was a
whackjob, to put it mildly.
http://glennarthur.gather.com/
Glenn was a "character".
> Like the case of Benjamin whatshis name (it's on youtube and i can't remember his last name)
I have no idea what you're yammering about.
>
> >> But I'm sure a girl who shares my views is out there.
> >
> > You're in a country with a small population, so you don't have the huge
> > numbers of candidates for Seon's dream girl.
> >
> But I'm in a capital city. The capital city of Australia. And with the
> Internet I have a better chance of finding my soulmate online. I am willing
> to relocate to Sydney or Melbourne and I might have to because the
> theosophical society is big in those cities.
The what? theosophical? WTF? Uh oh, it appears the kookside has you now.
>
> >> And I think it's going to change because I have a new confidence and
> >> positive attitude that I didn't have before. You may think I need to
> >> change
> >> my external circumstances but I also have to change myself. That is an
> >> even
> >> bigger change: Change thyself.
> >>
> >
> > Have fun with your latest fantasies.
> >
> Changing myself for the better is a fantasy?
Believing in stuff as crazy as this stuff sure is.
>> >> >Holy shit, you're a walking and talking,
>> >> > "Take me to the cleaners" sign! My dogs have more sense than you.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> Actually no because I realise we don't need a Psychic to connect with
>> >> our
>> >> loved one's who crossed over. And we also don't need a Psychic to tell
>> >> us
>> >> our future. Our future is up to us. WE are in control of our future.
>> >> Not
>> >> some phone Psychic who costs $5 a minute. (And more on mobiles)
>> >
>> > Why are you capitalizing psychic?
>> >
>> >>
>> Well it's a belief system like saying Witch or something, right?
>
> BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! WTF is wrong with you?
>
>>
You do know about wicca or witchcraft right?
I don't claim to remember my past lives. That would be crazy. But I believe
we've all had them.
> http://glenncoppes.gaia.com/
>
> http://glennarthur.gather.com/
>
> Glenn was a "character".
>
>
Glen Beck?
>> Like the case of Benjamin whatshis name (it's on youtube and i can't
>> remember his last name)
>
> I have no idea what you're yammering about.
>
>>
You'll probably just say the kid was making it up.
>> >> But I'm sure a girl who shares my views is out there.
>> >
>> > You're in a country with a small population, so you don't have the huge
>> > numbers of candidates for Seon's dream girl.
>> >
>> But I'm in a capital city. The capital city of Australia. And with the
>> Internet I have a better chance of finding my soulmate online. I am
>> willing
>> to relocate to Sydney or Melbourne and I might have to because the
>> theosophical society is big in those cities.
>
> The what? theosophical? WTF? Uh oh, it appears the kookside has you now.
>
>>
You really have no idea what the Theosophical society is, do you?
>> >> And I think it's going to change because I have a new confidence and
>> >> positive attitude that I didn't have before. You may think I need to
>> >> change
>> >> my external circumstances but I also have to change myself. That is an
>> >> even
>> >> bigger change: Change thyself.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Have fun with your latest fantasies.
>> >
>> Changing myself for the better is a fantasy?
>
> Believing in stuff as crazy as this stuff sure is.
> --
>
Well it's not belief because I base my views on experience. I haven't
experienced "God" though so I will just say I believe in some sort of higher
power that exists within. Let me guess you haven't heard of Gnosticism as
well.
So why would you cap Psychic? It makes no sense. Oops, never mind.
What evidence do you have these past lives really happened? Ever notice
how almost no one who claims to have remembered their past lives have a
really boring one? Glen's lives were all very tragic, and he was almost
always an associate of someone hugely famous, died a tragic death, or
both. He never was an accountant, or farmer, who worked a boring or
tedious job and just got old and died of pneumonia after falling and
breaking his hip.
>
> > http://glenncoppes.gaia.com/
> >
> > http://glennarthur.gather.com/
> >
> > Glenn was a "character".
> >
> >
> Glen Beck?
No! Glen Coppes!!
>
> >> Like the case of Benjamin whatshis name (it's on youtube and i can't
> >> remember his last name)
> >
> > I have no idea what you're yammering about.
> >
> >>
> You'll probably just say the kid was making it up.
You'll have to explain what the hell you're talking about here, since I
do not have any idea what you're babbling about.
>
> >> >> But I'm sure a girl who shares my views is out there.
> >> >
> >> > You're in a country with a small population, so you don't have the huge
> >> > numbers of candidates for Seon's dream girl.
> >> >
> >> But I'm in a capital city. The capital city of Australia. And with the
> >> Internet I have a better chance of finding my soulmate online. I am
> >> willing
> >> to relocate to Sydney or Melbourne and I might have to because the
> >> theosophical society is big in those cities.
> >
> > The what? theosophical? WTF? Uh oh, it appears the kookside has you now.
> >
> >>
> You really have no idea what the Theosophical society is, do you?
Oh yes, I certainly do. I'll try not to giggle.
>
> >> >> And I think it's going to change because I have a new confidence and
> >> >> positive attitude that I didn't have before. You may think I need to
> >> >> change
> >> >> my external circumstances but I also have to change myself. That is an
> >> >> even
> >> >> bigger change: Change thyself.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Have fun with your latest fantasies.
> >> >
> >> Changing myself for the better is a fantasy?
> >
> > Believing in stuff as crazy as this stuff sure is.
> > --
> >
> Well it's not belief because I base my views on experience. I haven't
> experienced "God" though so I will just say I believe in some sort of higher
> power that exists within. Let me guess you haven't heard of Gnosticism as
> well.
Seon, I'm over 50, it would be very difficult for me not to know what it
is. Just thinking about it makes my eyes roll uncontrollably. I'll laugh
later on.
--